HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-03-07; Traffic Safety Commission; ; Request to establish a 2-HOUR parking restriction on Marjorie LaneCITY OF CARLSBAD
TRAFFIC SAFffi CCIIIISSION
COMMISSION REPORT OF: March 7, 1988 ITEM NO. 6B
LOCATION: Marjorie Lane
INITIATED BY: Concerned Citizens for Preservation of Marjorie Lane, P.O. Box
1459, Carlsbad, California 92008
BACKGROUND:
DATA:
The request to establish a 2-HOUR parking restriction on Marjorie Lane was
discussed at the Traffic Safety Commission meeting of June 1, 1987. At
that time , the residents favored the 2-HOUR time restriction and indicated
such concurrence to Mayor Lewis and staff before the matter was brought
before the Commission. The Traffic Safety Coordinating C01TJTiittee reconmended
that no parking restrictions be established, however the TSC reconmended by
a 2-1 vote to establish a 2-HOUR parking restriction on Marjorie Lane,
Monday through Friday, between the hours of 7:00 A.M. and 4:00 P.M.
The 2-HOUR parking restriction on Marjorie Lane was established by
Ordinance Number 3215, adopted by the City Council. Red curb, as discussed
at the Traffic Safety Commission meeting, was painted at the entrance to
Marjorie Lane. As evidenced by the attached letter, problems with the
high school students continue to occur.
A NO PARKING restriction between the hours of 7:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M.,
Monday through Friday, is requested by the Concerned Citizens for Preser-
vation of Marjorie Lane. This will eliminate parking and minimize
problems expressed by the residents of Marjorie Lane during those hours.
Before 7:00 A.M. and after 4:00 P.M., students would be able to park on
Marjorie Lane with no assurance that the stated problems would not continue.
Events are held at the Carlsbad High School during the evening hours and on
Saturdays and Sundays. Again, no assurances could be made that some type
of problem may not occur on Marjorie Lane by occupants of parked vehicles
during times other than the restricted parking hours.
It is unfortunate that the alleged problems continue to occur on Marjorie
Lane as a result of the actions of high school students. The only effective
way to eliminate potential problems as a result of parked vehicles is to
establish a NO PARKING zone, 24 hours each day of the week. Police
enforcement would be necessary if a vehicle violates the NO PARKING zone.
TRAFFIC SAFITY CotlllSSION
COMMISSION REPORT OF: March 7, 1988
(Continued)
ITEM NO. 6B
To not establish a NO PARKING zone invites the possibility of again
discussing this matter at a future Traffic Safety Commission meeting if
one or more residents of Marjorie Lane believe the 7:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M.
NO PARKING restriction is not working.
RECOMMENDATION:
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommends that a NO PARKING
zone be established on Marjorie Lane, 24 hours a day, seven days of the week.
NECESSARY CITY COUNCIL ACTION:
The City Council must amend Ordinance No. 3215 by adopting a new ordinance
to designate a different time restriction as may be recommended by the
Traffic Safety Commission.
CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR
PRESERVATION OF MARJORIE LANE
POST OFFICE BOX 1459
CARLSBAD, CA. 92008
January 26, 1988
CITY OF CARLSBAD
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
2075 LAS PALMAS
CARLSBAD, CA. 92009
RE: PUBLIC SAFETY AND SANITATION
MARJORIE LANE
June 1, 1987; The TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION discussed the matter
of MARJORIE LANE and passed a resolution. Please see item B of
the minutes of that meeting.
The request by the CITIZENS OF MARJORIE LANE to mark MARJORIE
LANE, a NO PARKING zone was ignored by the TRAFFIC SAFETY
COMMISSION, and a resolution to post the s t reet a 2 HOUR ZONE was
passed by the TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION per the minutes. The
CITIZENS OF MARJORIE LANE departed the meeting thinking that a
resolution of NO PARKING had been passed. Apparently, the
CITIZENS OF MARJORIE LANE were not the only persons with this
impression .
After a period of time sufficient for the TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT to
order and install signs, the street was posted NO PARKING; 7:00
A.H. TO 4:00 P.H . The signs remained in place for approximately
one month . School commenced. THE NO PARKING WORKED
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER,-THE SOCIETY ON MARJ ORI E LANE, AND THE
HIGH SCHOOL ACROSS CHEST~UT AVENUE EXISTED SIDE BY SI DE IN
DIGNITY WITH NO REASON TO BE AT ODDS.
The TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT changed the signs immedi a tely after
several students received citations f or i l l egal parking.
Particularly significant is one young ma n who par k ed and
defiantly boasted that he could care less t ha t t he s igns sta ted
NO PARKING . Carlsbad Police cited the yo ung ma n when a cit i z en
t e l ephoned the police.
In the discussion at the afore TRAFFIC SAFETY CO MMISS ION MEETING
one person on the commission stated that he was concerned that
posting NO PARKING on MARJORIE LANE would set a "precedent". This
particular c oncern can be addressed forthwith . It is suggested
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that since we live in a DEMOCRACY; and since we are CITIZENS; it
would appear that the c i tizens of MARJORIE LANE, i n the interes t
of public safety and sanitation, should be capable of selecting
NO PARKING on the cul de sac .
The TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION is respectfully requested to pos t
MARJORIE LANE to read: NO PARKING, 7:00 A.M. TO 4:00 P .M, MON DAY
THROUGH FRIDAY, for the follow i ng reasons:
PUBLIC SAFETY AND SANITATION. TH E CARLSBAD TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HAS
NOT GIVEN THIS MATTER PROPER AND ADEQUATE ATTENTION. IN ADDIT ION
THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS FAILED TO ENFORCE THE LAW ON
THE BELOW MATTERS:
A. REPEATED TRASHING:
B.
1. Repeated trashing of the street including
condoms thrown on the street and adjacent property
on more than one occasion.
ILLEGAL PARKING:
1. Parking to far from the curb.
2. Parking diagonally to curb.
3. Several drivers double parking
simultaneously.
4 . Several drivers loading or discharging
passengers in the traffic lanes or double parked
simultaneously.
5. Parking limitation not enforced.
In the J une 1, 1987 minutes of the Traffic Commission
Meeting, Sgt. Shipley stated that forces to patrol a
two hour parking limit were none existent.
C. NOISE CONTROL:
1. Several
systems which
motor vehicle
to this area,
vehicles having modified exhaust
obviously do not comply with the
code. Little attention is directed
hence this problem goes unabated.
D. RACING:
D.
1. Speed and driv ing exhibitions including two
or more cars racing. On one occasion in the past
two weeks, two cars were racing, one of the
vehicles in reverse. The vehicle's path described
an arc the length of Marjorie Lane.
LOITERING AND SMOKING:
1. The Smoking is not allowed
premises but as a matter of course is
transfer~ed to MARJORIE LANE.
on school
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT ACTIVELY
ARRIVES IF A CITIZEN TELEPHONES. MRS. MEJIA rs
SINCE SHE HA S TELEPHONED COMPLAINTS, OFTEN.
WORK THE AREA BUT
VIRTUALLY IGNORED
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IN THE MORNING WHEN A CITIZEN WAITS TWO HOURS FOR A
VIOLATION TO OCCUR AND TELEPHONES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FOUR
HOUR MORNING SCHOOL PERIOD IS OVER AND THE STUDENTS DEPART FOR
LUNCH BEFORE A VIOLATION CAN BE VERIFIED.
THE POLICE HAVE NEVER MADE A PRACTICE OF MARKING THE
VEHICLES EACH MORNING IN ORD ER TO CREATE A PRESENCE.
THE TWO HOUR POSTING SPANS THE AFTERNOON SESSION PRECISELY
SO THAT THE STREET IS FILLED WITH VEHICLES IN THE AFTERNOON.
VEHICLES RETURNING FROM LUNCH DUMP THEIR FAST FOOD TRAYS,
WRAPPERS, AND QUART SIZE DRINK CONTAINERS ALONG WITH AN
OCCASIONAL CONDOM.
IT rs OBVIOUS THAT THE TWO HOUR POSTING IS NOT ENFORCED AND
THE CITIZENS OF MARJORIE LANE; AND THE CARLSBAD POLICE ARE
PRESENTLY THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS MATTER IS POTENTIALLY SERIOUS, AND VOLATILE; AND THE
ATTENTION OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION, THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS DIRECTED TO THIS SUBJECT .
THE CITIZENS OF MARJORIE LANE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT MARJORIE
LANE BE POSTED "NO PARKING" 7:00 A.M. TO 4:00 P.M.
KINDLY NOTIFY THE BELOW INDIVIDUALS AS TO HEARINGS ON THIS
SUBJECT.
SIGNED: CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR PRESERV
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k;zf.·'JL~ 1845 tnut Aven *
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Mr. and Paul Pitts (Mrs.)
3624 Marjor ie Lane -~ ;B , E~
Mr . and Mrs Vern Holbrook
3614 Marjorie Lane
Ms. Edoui se Starkie
3645 Marjor ie Lane 3615 Marjor i e Lane
~7Y-&'.-.e..°V~,£ ~ Mr. and Mrs William H. Poole, 188hhtnut Avenue *
* Homes numbered on Chestnut Avenue . Access via Marjorie Lane.
cc: Carlsbad ~ity Council
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B. Marjorie Lane -Request for Two-Hour Parking Limit Monday
through Friday.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report on this item stating the
"throat" of Marjorie Lane is the restriction. The Fire
Marshal has indicated there should be parking on one side only
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee supported the
reconnne~aation to paint red curb on the west side of the
entrar.cP. for 80 feet .
The two-hour parking time limit would create problems in the
bulb portion of the street, and is not normally done on a
residential street. The two-hour limit would apply to all
vehicles--not just the high school students--and would limit
the residents and their guests. Also, a parking limit would
require constant police enforcement. This would not address
the problem of the lack of off-street parking for the high
school students, but would just move that problem to another
street. This might set a precedent for other residents to
request the same two-hour parking limit . The Coordinating
Committee did not recommend a two-hour parking limit on this
street.
In answer to Commissioner Erwin's comment the people would be
worse off with the red curb than now, Mr. Johnson answered
the street is only 32 feet wide and there should not be parkini
on both sides. As the City becomes aware of streets of this
width, the parking restrictions will be placed on them.
William H. Poole, 1885 Chestnut, addressed the Commission,
stating his address is on Chestnut, but his home fronts and
the driveway accesses on to Marjorie Lane. His concern was
safety. The parents and students come into Chestnut and
Marjorie Lane and load and unlaod, blocki ng both streets.
He recommended enforcement at the time the students are
there . The police arrive after the students are gone. Mr.
Poole added there is no enforcement of parking regulations.
There should be no parking on the curb return. Also, people
park more than 18 inches from the curb--some at a 35 degree
angle . Those people parked illegally will not allow the
residents to exit the street .
Mr. Poole stated he resents having to pick up the trash and
debris left by the students. There are soft drink cans and
containers and beer bottles. At the time the school banned
the smokers, they moved over to this area. The smoking and
music start at 6:30 a.m., and the residents there need relief
from this nuisance.
Mr . Poole stated the neck of the street is narrow, and it
would not hurt to paint both sides of the street red.
Commissioner Erwin inquired whether Mr. Poole had talked with
the school people, and Mr. Poole answered not in the last
six months . The Vice-Principal used to break up the smoking,
but the residents were supposed to call the school each time.
The School District does not support the security people, but
it would help if they came on duty at 6:30 a .m.
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Vernon Holbrook, 3614 Marjorie Lane, stated he bought his
home in August to be a retirement home. At this point, he
is not certain about that, due to the harassment from the
high school students parking on the cul-de-sac. Mr. Holbrook
stated this is a very dangerous situation and he would like
some help. He wrote a letter regarding this situation and
took time off from work to appear here today. He said there
is no enforcement by the police, and at this point he wants
the students out of his yard. He has fruit trees in his yard,
which they strip of f ruit, and he has to pick up litter
constantly .
Mr. Holbrook recommended painting the entire curb in the
cul-de-sac for no parking.
Ernest Mejia, 1845 Chestnut Avenue, addressed the Commission
stating he has trouble with the littering and the beligerent
attitude of the students. When he complained to the school,
he was told to go back to Mexico by the teachers there. The
security guards are civil service employees and are just
putting in their time. They receive no backing from the
school or parents.
Mr. Mejia stated he gets up at 4:30 or 5:00 a.m., to pick
up the papers out of his yard. At lunch time, the students
dump the trash in his yard again.
Mr. Mejia continued, stating he has lived there 36 years, and
is at the point of taking matters into his own hands, unless
he receives some help.
There are other people parking on the street, other than
students. Mr. Mejia stated these are people that sell items
to the students.
Mr. Mejia agreed with the suggestion to paint the entire
area red and police enforcement of that restriction. He
said his company is able to park in his yard, and that would
not inconvenience him. At the present time, he is unable
to get into onto his property due to the illegal parking.
Chairman O'Day closed the public testimony portion at 3:34 p.m.
Commissioner Fuller commented he had driven to Marjorie Lane
this morning about 10:00 a.m. There was parking available
on Chestnut Street, but obviously the students would rather
park on Marjorie Lane, which is closer to the school.
Commissioner Fuller stated he would be in favor of the red
curb and a two-hour parking zone on this street. Commissioner
Erwin agreed, but was concerned about eliminating parking for
the residents by painting the curb red.
Commissioner Fuller added he would like to see the two-hour
parking restriction begin at 7:00 a.m. to at least 3:00 p.m.,
or 4:00 p.m.
Chairman O'Day commented about the number of times the
Commission will hear this request on the streets around a
school.
Commissioner Fuller said there was parking available on
Chestnut, so they were not inconveniencing the students. He
felt this street was unique.
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Sgt. Shipley stated there would be a problem to enforce a
two-hour parking restriction. The Commissioners felt it would
require some initial policing to get the idea across that
violators would be ticketed.
Traffic Safety Commission approved painting 8O-feet of red cur
on the west side entrance to Mar jorie Lane, as contained in
the staff report and recommended by the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee. The Commission also requested a
two-hour parking restriction from 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.,
Monday through Friday, on Marjorie Lane.
Chairman O'Day stated he opposed this motion, as he felt this
would set a precedent the Commission would regret.
Commissioner Fuller added he felt this situation was unique
and required a different approach. This type of restriction
is common in other jurisdictions.
Staff will check into the curb return situation and cars
parking there. Those are not normally painted red, but if
vehicles are parked there, it is a hazard as far as sight
restriction. Staff chose the west side of the street for the
red curb as this is the entering traffic and is faster.
The Commission requested this item be returned in six months
with a report on the results of the signing.
C. Carlsbad Boulevard -Request for "NO PARKING" Zone on East
Side from Palomar Airport Road to La Costa Av~nue.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report stating vehicles parked in
the bike lane obstruct the through travel of the bicyclists,
and sometimes the traffic lane. The Traffic Safety Coordinatirg
Committee recommended a "NO PARKING" zone be established on thi
east side of Carslbad Boulevard between Palomar Airport Road
and La Costa Avenue.
Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of the
Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a "NO
PARKING" zone on the east side of Carlsbad Boulevard between
Palomar Airport Road and La Costa Avenue.
D. Paseo Del Norte -Request to Establish a "NO TRUCK ROUTE"
from Palomar Airport Road to a Point 1,150 Feet South on
Paseo Del Norte.
Bob Johnson reported the Police Department had requested this
portion of Paseo Del Norte be eliminated from the code as
a truck routP.. This was done originally to allow parking in th~
lot in back of Denny's. Since that parking is no longer
avail&uLe to trucks , there is no need for the truck route
<.lreciguatiou.
Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of the
Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a "NO
TRUCK ROUTE" designation on Paseo Del Norte for a distance of
1,150 feet southerly of Palomar Airport Road.
E. La Costa Avenue -Request to Establish Hillside Street
Designation for Sidewalk Purposes.
Bob Johnson reported this item will be before the Planning
Commission this Wednesday evening. The Development Processing
Services staff has compiled a list of streets in the La Costa
area for which they are requesting a Hillside Street desig-
nation for sidewalk purposes.
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