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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPS 2021-0015; BADIEE DEVELOPMENT; Sign Permits/Programs (PS)( City of Carlsbad REVIEW FOR SIGN PERMIT P-11 Developmeni" 5ervh'C_!f Planning Division 1635 Faraday Avenue (760) 602-4610 www.carlsbadca.gov C,cv U,'Z--1 -oc>z_.9 PLANNING APPLICATION# ~S ~ O z_ I -OD / <; REC'D BY St, mJ,J C f,, ·- DATE 2--1 -I SIGN FEE=~=~~--~-----SIGN PROGRAM FEE a I , I > la . .!J!. RECEIPT NO. __________ _ NOTE: AN APPOINTMENT IS REQUIRED FOR SUBMITTAL. Pl.EASE CONTACT THE APPOINTMENT SPECIAUST AT (760) 602· 2723 TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT. •SAME DAY APPOINTMENTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE"' All plans submitted for sign permits/sign programs shall consist of a minimum of a site plan and sign elevations containing the following information: 1. North arrow and scale. 2. Location of existing buildings or structures, parking areas, and vehicular access points to the property. 3. Location of all existing and proposed signs for the property. 4. Distance to the property line(s) for all proposed freestanding sign(s). 5. Provide an elevation for all proposed sign(s) which specifies the following: A. Dimensions and area for all existing and proposed sign(s). B. Materials the sign(s) will be constructed of. C. Source of Illumination. D. Proposed sign copy. APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT THREE (3) SETS OF SIGN/SITE PLANS, A COMPLETED APPLICATION FORM, AND THE APPLICATION FEE, Average processing time: 2 weeks Name of Project: -----=Ba~d"ie"e"D"e"',0"10,,p"m"'e"ot'------------------ Address of Project: ___ 2_8_1o_ea_,_,0o_,_eo_,_" __________________ _ Assessor Parcel Number: __ _.20.,e,,•1'120:i,:s-01,23-00=------------------ Related Planning Case Number(S): ____________________ _ TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT: (a) Residential (d) (b) Commercial (e) (c) Officellndustria\ (f) Hotel/Motel Service Station Prof. Care (g) Theater (h) Gov't/Church/School (i) Public Par1<: SIGN PROGRAM AND/OR SPECIFIC PLAN CRITERIA (j) Produce Stand (k) Nursery (I) P-U/OS Zone Yes □ No □ Specific Plan Number ____ _ VILLAGE REVIEW AREA (If yes, please complete infonnation on page 3) Yes D SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTAL REVIEW AREA Yes □ SIGN0RDINANCE: Yes □ No □ COASTALZONE: YesONoO P-11 Page 1 of4 No □ No □ Rev. 02'28118 EXISTING SIGNS: TYPE NUMBER SIGN AREA SIGN HEIGHT Pole Monument Wall Suspended/Projecting Directional Canopy Freeslanding (Project Identity) PERMITS ISSUED FOR EXISTING SIGNS: Yes O No O Date ______ _ PROPOSED PERMANENT SIGNS: MAXIMUM NUMBER MAXIMUM PROPOSED MAXIMUM PROPOSED TYPE NUMBER SIGN SIGN SIGN ALLOWED PROPOSED AREA SIGN AREA HEIGHT HEIGHT Pole0 Monument** Wall 6waU 240. 36" Suspended/Projecting ... , Directional Canopy Freestanding•• (Project Identity) Digital Display 36 ..,.....,r l\na vvm ....... w vmy1 6 0 PROPOSED TEMPORARY SIGNS: MAXIMUM NUMBER MAXIMUM PROPOSED MAXIMUM PROPOSED TYPE NUMBER PROPOSED SIGN SIGN AREA SIGN SIGN ALLOWED AREA HEIGHT HEIGHT Construction** For Sale** Banner Interim **Prior to approval, all proposed pole, monument, and freestanding signs must be reviewed for potential sight distance and visibility issues. Additional Information must supplement this application showing how the proposed slgnage will not encroach into the public right-of• way or present a traffic hazard. Page 3 of 4 Illustrates an example for what would be required for such proposed signs. P-11 Page 2 of4 Rev. 02/28/18 • SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT FOR POLE, MONUMENT, AND FREESTANDING SIGN APPLICATIONS The following example illustrates the information that is required for all pole, monument, and freestanding sign permit applications. Prior to approval, all such proposed signs must be reviewed for potential issues by the Transportation Department, which will not allow signs to be approved over the counter. Additional time will be required for on-site inspection. I ' I ' PIL / Si.pt Di1t:11 Reqoiremmnt Shaw bllildina;/1 I ' I I ', { Slunv sdar:k.o from all nsb• --- ' I ' ' I I ShuwaD prop my line, ' P/L I •! I twb line I -----------~--- • • Si.pt Visibility Stniet Name(1) (i) ' ' North 21.41.080 Sign design standards Relationship to Streets: Signs shall be designed and located so as not to interfere with the unobstructed clear view of the public right-of-way and nearby traffic regulatory signs of any pedestrian, bicyclist or motor vehicle driver. Sight Distance: No sign or sign structure shall be placed or constructed so that it impairs the sight distance requirements at any public or private street intersection or driveway. EXISTING SIGN PROGRAMS OR SPECIFIC PLAN SIGN CRITERIA Total Building Square Footage; __ s_o,_,_50 ______ sq. ft. Total Building Street Frontage: 424 linear ft. Total Signage Allowance: sq. ft. Existing Signage (sq. ft.): sq. ft. Remaining Sign Allowance at Present: sq. ft. Proposed Signage (sq. ft.): sq. ft. Remaining Sign Allowance Aft.er Proposed Sign: sq. ft. VILLAGE REVIEW AREA Total Signable Area: _________ sq. fl. Total Signable Area Length: sq. ft. Total Signable Area Height sq. ft. Total Projection from Wall Face: inches P-11 Page3of4 Rev. 02128/18 PROPERTY OWNER NAME PRINT OR TYPE Victory Carlsbad Oak S Innovations Center LP C/0 Badiee Develo ment MAILING ADDRESS 1261 Prospect Street suite 9 APPLICANT NAME PRINT OR TYPE Integrated Signs MAILING ADDRESS 1160 Pioneer Way suite M CITY STATE ZIP TELEPHONE CITY STATE ZIP TELEPHONE La Jolla CA 92037 I CERTIFY THAT I AM THE LEGAL OWNER AND THAT ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS TRUE A RRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KN ED E. PLANNER CH 1. Field check by planner. 2. Within maximum length, area. El Cajon CA 92020 I CERTIFY THAT I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGAL OWNER AND THAT ALL THE ABOVE FORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO TH EST OF KNOWLEDGE. 2/3/21 DATE 3. Style consistent with Sign Program and/or Specific Plan criteria, if applicable. 4. Location: ❖ In right-of-way ❖ In visibility triangle at comer 5. Pole and monument signs to be checked by Transportation Engineering, for visibility issues. 6. When approved route copy to Data Entry APPROVED: Planner: _____________ _ Date: ______ _ P-11 Page4of4 Rev. 02/28/18 f • • BADIEE DEVELOPMENT ' --·-.-:........,,_ ... • . .,,.~ -.;... . -- •,• • ~ ~ :'.'iff , , ' t'" I ~ • • ,l -, • ' MASTER SIGN PROGRAM 2810 CARIBOU COURT I CARLSBAD, CA 92010 APPLICANT Badlee Development 2810 Caribou Ct. Carlsbad, CA 92010 PROPERTY OWNERS VICTORY CARLSBAD OAK S INNOVATION CENTER LP C/O Badiee Development 1550 El Paso Real. La Jolla, CA 92037 PROJECT MANAGER Integrated Signs 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020 LEGAL DESCRIPTION APN#: 209-120-03-00 LOT4\ LOT SIZE: 5.98 ACRES PARCEL MAP#: 014926 SHEET INDEX Cover Sheet / Owner Info 2 Guidelines 3 Site Plan 4 Building elevations 5 Tenant ID signs 6 Section details 7 Door graphics 8 Shipping & receiving ID panel CITY OF CARLSBAD Administrative Permit Exibit No. A--H Date 0~ / o'-f /v:>2-1 ,-:-) BADI EE '.....!,J DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 ProjectNo.: 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: ArnieM. Date: December 22, 2020 Scale: as noted Revision: v~ ~/4 Integrated SIGNS DREAM IT • BUILD IT• SIGN IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 isasign.com I Info@isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: 1 /8 MASTER SIGN PROGRAM 2810 CARIBOU COURT J CARLSBAD, CA 92010 The purpose of this Master Sign Criteria is to establish the minimum sign standards necessary to ensure coordinated proportional exposure for all tenants. General Notes: A) This Master Sign Criteria shall be strictly enforced and any non-conforming signs installed by Owner shall be removed by the Owner or its contractor at Owner's sole cost and expense within ten (10) days of Owner's receipt of written notice from the Board of Directors or the City of Carlsbad. B) All Owners signage shall be consistent with ordinances and sign criteria required by the city of Carlsbad. q Each Owner shall submit to the Board of Directors and the City of Carlsbad, for approval, two (2) copies of the detailed shop drawing of Owner's proposed sign, in conformance with this Master Sign Criteria. Such submittals shall include, but not be limited to, pertinent dimensions, details and color call-outs. D) The tenant shall submit to owner for review and approval all drawings and descriptions relating to tenant signs. Tenant at tenant's sole cost and expense, shall submit all plans to all governmental authorities for approval and permitting. E) Tenant's sign contractor must: (1) must have a current.in-force license from the State of California to fabricate signs, (2) must carry current,in-force general liability insurance of not less than $1 million and (3) must carry current, in-force workman's compensation insurance. Tenant is to be named as additional insured for both general liability and workman's compensation insurance. All work shall be of excellent quality. The City of Carlsbad and/or the ownership reserves the right to reject any work determined to be of inferior quality by the City of Carlsbad and/or the ownership or the project architect, in their sole and absolute determination. F) All signs and their installation must comply with all local building and electrical codes and any government authority which has jurisdiction over signs. Tenant and tenant's contractor shall independently investigate all local or City of Carlsbad sign ordinances. Owner shall not be liable to tenant for any requirements not covered in this Master Sign Criteria. G) Ownership in its sole and absolute discretion, reserves the right to disapprove any sign that may conflict with the overall appearance of the building. H) The City of Carlsbad, in it's sole and absolute discretion, reserves the right to disapprove any sign that may conflict with the overall appearance of the building. Dooiway & window Signage: A) Tenant is allowed to have door and window signs for business hours, tenant name and address, not to exceed 6 sq. ft. of glazing area. Lettering not to exceed eight (8) inches in letter height. Business front Signage: A) Tenants are to have halo-lit, face-lit & non-illuminated fco letters/logo for business frontage wall signs. B) Only one wall sign per business frontage is permitted. C) The City of Carlsbad and /or owner may require reduction of any sign based upon aesthetics of the building elevation, and upon the sole discretion of the City of Carlsbad and/or the owner. D) Tenant ID sign restrictions: Max. sign height: Letter height: 36 inches high. Logo height: 36 inches high. Overall length = not to exceed 80% of tenant lease space. Total sign area: East Elevation - South Elevation - West Elevation - Max. 60 sq. ft., ONLY One(1) ID sign allowed. Max. 30 sq. ft., ONLY Four(4) ID signs allowed. Max. 60 sq. ft., ONLY One(1) ID sign allowed. El Tenant Sign Content and colors: All tenants signage shall consist solely of Tenant's trade name, logo and recognization trademark insignia. Tenants will be permitted to use their corporate colors. The landlord encourages the tenants to consider these colors when choosing design colors; Sign colors should be selected to provide sufficient contrast against building background colors and/or should be compatible with and complement building background colors. The owner and/or the City of Carlsbad reserves any and all rights to deny any color(s). Prohibited Signs: • No sign shall project above or below the sign-able area as defined herein. • Wall signs may not project above the top of a parapet, the roof line at the wall, or roof line. • Sign painted directly on a building surface will not be permitted. • No animated, flashing or audible signs are permitted. • Exposed skeleton neon applied directly to fascia element. • No exposed tubing or lamps are permitted. • No cabinet signs will be allowed in this center. Logo module boxes may be permitted with owner and City of Carlsbad approval only. • Sign contractor shall provide necessary fastening and bracing to securely install sign (for wind loads, etc.) to conform to local and City of Carlsbad building codes. MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project location: 281 O Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 '"'~"· 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer ArnieM. December 22, 2020 Scale: as noted Revision· Integrated SIGNS 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 isasign.com I info <~isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: 2 /s \ I \ \ SIGN LEGEND SIGN TYPE "A"-TENANT ID SIGN @ STOREFRONT ELEVATION SIGN TYPE "B"-DOOR GRAPHICS SIGN TYPE "C"-SHIPPING & RECEIVING SIGN PANEL@ REAR ELEVATION r-t---__ :: ~ \ I I \ \-~----------tt---!. ll!fl'WlQ !ff:?( -..,.i.....__ __ _J -~-~ •it EAST ELEVATION \ WEST ELEVATION ONLY ONE (1) ID SIGN ALLOWED MAX. SIGN AREA -60 SO. FT. SITE PLAN SCALE: 1" = 100'-0" SIGN TYPE 'A " INSTALL LOCATION OPTIONS SOUTH ELEVATION SUITE 130 SUITE 140 ONLY FOUR (4) ID SIGNS ALLOWED MAX. SIGN AREA -30 SQ. FT. PER SIGN ONLY ONE(1) ID SIGN ALLOWEJ MAX. SIGN AREA -60 SQ. FT. } -----~,.,....._ .f ~/ ' j (i 1 _.,.t ........ o· 10· 30• 100· L.ri......-.... lC£ t.AKEBLVO 2810 Culbou CT C•rl,b•d, CA 9201 D ~-11,,.,. o~l VICINITY MAP A PROPERTY OWNERS VICTORY CARLSBAD OAK S INNOVATION CENTER LP C/O Badiee Development 1550 El Paso Real La Jolla, CA 92037 ADDRESS: 2810 Caribou Ct. Carlsbad, CA 92010 LEGAL DESCRIPTION APN#: 209-120-03-00 LOT4\ LOT SIZE: 5.98 ACRES PARCEL MAP #: 014926 •-:) BADIEE '...!} DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 ProjectNo.: 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: AmieM. Date: December 22, 2020 Scale: 1 "=100'-0" Revision: &, TA • add sign location v~ ~/4 01.15.21 Integrated SIGNS DREAM IT • BUILD IT • SIGN IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 lsasign.com I info@isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: 3 /s SIGN TYPE "C" (TYP.) SUITE 160 SUITE 140 SUITE 130 SUITE 120 SUITE 110 SUITE 100 NORTH ELEVATION -REAR ELEVATION 1 '-2"+-±--------1-----60'-6"± -----+-----60'-8" ± -----+-----60'-11 "± I 60'-2'± ---------------,26·-0·± -----------! SIGN TYPE "B" SIGN TYPE "B" SIGN TYPE "B" DOOR GRAPHICS DOOR GRAPHICS -------- SUITE 100 SUITE 110 SUITE 120 '--------'---SIGN TYPE "A" INSTALL LOCATION OPTIONS $35'-0" AFG @ SIGNAGE 0'-0" AFG SUITE 100 WEST ELEVATION SIGN TYPE "B" SIGN TYPE "B" SIGN TYPE "B" SIGN TYPE "B" I DOOR GRAPHICS DOOR GRAPHICS I I \ SUITE 130 I \ SUITE 140 I \_ SIGN TYPE "A" '-----------'--SIGN TYPE "A" INSTALL LOCATION OPTIONS SOUTH ELEVATION -FRONT ELEVATION ONLY FOUR (4) ID SIGNS ALLOWED MAX. SIGN AREA-30 SQ. FT. PER SIGN INSTALL LOCATION OPTIONS SUITE 160 / .__ _____ _,. __ SIGN TYPE "A" INSTALL LOCATION OPTIONS I------------122'-0"± --------------! $35'-0" AFG 0'-0" AFG EAST ELEVATION ONLY ONE (1) ID SIGN ALLOWED MAX. SIGN AREA-60 SQ. FT. SIGN TYPE "A" ONLY ONE (1) ID SIGN ALLOWED MAX. SIGN.AREA -60 SQ. FT. SUITE 160 SIGN TYPE "A" BUILDING ELEVATIONS SCALE: 1" = 30'-0" .~ BADIEE '...!) DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project Location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 Project No.: 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: ArnieM. Date: December 22, 2020 Scale: 1 "=30'-0" Revision: it:,_ TA• add add'I sign@ 160 01.15.21 6 v~ ~/4 Integrated SIGNS DREAM IT • BUILD IT • SIGN IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 isasign.com I info@isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design Is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: NOT TO EXCEED 80% OF TENANT LEASE SPACE. I I I I 1 I : ----~---------------------------L ------------------------~ ~ RESTRICTIONS: LETTER HEIGHT: 36 INCHES HIGH. LOGO HEIGHT: 36 INCHES HIGH. MAX. OVERALL LENGTH = NOT TO EXCEED 80% OF TENANT LEASE SPACE. TOTAL SIGN AREA: EAST ELEVATION -MAX. 60 SQ. FT., ONLY ONE(1) ID SIGN ALLOWED. SOUTH ELEVATION -MAX. 30 SQ. FT., ONLY FOUR{4) ID SIGNS ALLOWED. WEST ELEVATION -MAX. 60 SQ. FT., ONLY ONE{1) ID SIGN ALLOWED. SIGN TYPE 11A11 -TENANT ID WALL SIGN SCALE: 1/2" = 1 '-0" TENANT ID WALL SIGN: TENANTS ARE TO HAVE HALO-UT, FACE-UT & NON-ILLUMINATED FCO LOGO/LETTERS FOR BUSINESS FRONTAGE WALL SIGNS. OPTION •A• -HALO-UT LOGO/LETTERS: (3' DP.) FABRICATED ALUMINUM REVERSE CHANNEL LOGO & LETTERS W/ 3/16" THK. CLEAR POLYCARBONATE BACKS. ILLUMINATION: LOW-VOLTAGE LED HALO-ILLUMINATION INSTALL: PEGGED-OFF 1" FROM BUILDING WALL. OPTION "B" • FACE-LIT LOGO/LETTERS: (3" DP.) FABRICATED ALUMINUM CHANNEL LOGO & LETTERS W/ 3/16' THK ACRYLIC FACE W/ 3M TRANSLUCENT VINYL OVERLAY FILM & 3/4" (MIN.) TRIMCAP EDGES. ILLUMINATION: LOW-VOLTAGE LED ILLUMINATION. INSTALL: SURFACE MOUNTED TO BUILDING WALL. OPTION "C" -NON-ILLUMINATED LOGO/LETTERS: 1/2" THK. FLAT-CUT-OUT ACRYLIC LOGO/LETTERS W/ PAINTED FINISH (AS PER CUSTOMER LOGO GUIDELINES). ILLUMINATION: NON-ILLUMINATED. INSTALL: SURFACE MOUNTED TO BUILDING WALL. NOTES: SIGN CONSTRUCTION SHALL PROVIDE NECESSARY FASTENING AND BRACING TO SECURELY INSTALL SIGN {FOR WIND LOADS, ETC) TO CONFIRMED TO LOCAL AND CITY BUILDING CODES. ,~ BADIEE '..!} DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 ProjectNo.: 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: ArnieM. Date: December 22, 2020 Scale: 1/2 "=1 '-0" Revision: ~ Integrated SIGNS l"'f'cc.AM T • E-UI IT • SIC.N IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 isaslgn.com I info@isaslgn.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: floF DOOR I 32"AFG SIGN TYPE 118 11 -DOOR GRAPHICS SCALE: 3/4" = 1 '-0" DOOR GRAPHICS SPECIFICATIONS : LETTERSTYLE ARE ACCEPTABLE. UPPER OR LOWER CASE COPY IS PERMITTED. ALL TRADEMARKED LOGO WILL BE PERMITTED TO USE THEIR REGISTERED LOGO. NOTES- • COLORS SUBJECT TO LL APPROVAL. • SIGN DESIGN, INCLUDING SIZES, TYPESTYLE, COLOR & LOGOS ARE SUBJECTS TO LANDLORD & CITY APPROVAL. SIZE RESTRICTION: • GRAPHICS ON THE DOOR TO BE LIMITED TO 6 SQ. FT. • LETTERING NOT TO EXCEED B" IN HEIGHT •-:-) BADIEE '....!,_} DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project Location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 ProjectNo.: 201002-04 Salesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: ArnieM. Date: December 22, 2020 Scale: 3/4"=1 '-0" Revision: v~ ~/4 Integrated SIGNS DREAM IT• BUILD IT• SIGN IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 lsasign.com I info@isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced in whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: 7 /s 12· TENANT NAM E SHIPPING & RECEIVING SIGN TYPE 11C11 -TENANT ID WALL SIGN SCALE: 3" = 1 '-0" TIHAHTMAME SHIPPING& RECEIVING SIGN PANEL: SCALE: 1/2'=1 '-0" .063" THK. WHITE ALUMINUM PANEL MOUNTED TO WALL W/ SILICONE ADHESIVE AND DOBLE SIDED TAPE. LOCATION-ON THE REAR WALK-IN DOOR TO THE LESSEE'S LEASED SPACE. COPY: SIMILAR AS SHOWN, BLOCK TYPESTYLE. COLOR -BLACK. '--:-) BADIEE '....!,J DEVELOPMENT MASTER SIGN PROGRAM Project Location: 2810 Caribou Court Carlsbad, CA 92010 ProjectNo.: 201002-04 Sslesman: Aaron Clippinger Designer: ArnieM. Dste: December 22, 2020 Scale: as noted Revision: ~ Integrated SIGNS DREAM 1-• 3l•ILC. T • SIGN IT 1160 Pioneer Way, Suite M El Cajon, California 92020-1944 T: 619.579.2229 I F: 619.579.7651 isasign.com I info @isasign.com ORIGINAL CONCEPT This design is the exclusive property of Integrated Signs and cannot be reproduced In whole or part without their prior written consent. Sheet No.: 8 /a