HomeMy WebLinkAbout2025-10-07; City Council; 06; Final public art design concept for Veterans Memorial ParkCA Review AZ
Meeting Date: Oct. 7, 2025
To: Mayor and City Council
From: Geoff Patnoe, City Manager
Staff Contact: Craddock Stropes, Cultural Arts Manager
craddock.stropes@carlsbadca.gov, 442-339-2026
Subject: Final public art design concept for Veterans Memorial Park
District: All
Recommended Action
Adopt a resolution approving the final public art design concept by Gordon Huether & Partners,
Inc. for the permanent public art at Veterans Memorial Park, Capital Improvement Project No.
4609.
Executive Summary
Veterans Memorial Park is set to become the city’s largest park and a dedicated place to
recognize and honor the nation’s veterans, the first such location in Carlsbad. As part of the
development of this new park, public art is to be featured prominently at the park’s highest
point, where visitors can enjoy scenic views of the lagoon, golf course and ocean.
The proposed artwork, “The Ring,” by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc., is a large circular
sculpture designed to honor veterans by providing a place of reflection with a panoramic view.
The park also features a separate Veterans Memorial Plaza, which will be accessible from the
lower parking lot, with a flagpole, benches and glass panels memorializing service members.
The design was selected through a national call for artists, shaped by community and veterans’
input. The Carlsbad Arts Commission received a presentation on the final design concept for
public art at Veterans Memorial Park on Aug. 7, 2025, (Exhibit 3) and voted to recommend the
City Council approve the final design concept by artist Gordon Huether, as was reported in a
memorandum to the City Council (Exhibit 4).
The City Council’s approval is required for the final design concepts for permanent public art, in
accordance with Carlsbad Municipal Code Section 2.18.120 and the City Council-approved Art in
Public Places Program (Exhibit 2).
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Explanation & Analysis
Veterans Memorial Park is being developed on a 93.7-acre site southeast of the Agua Hedionda
Lagoon and just north of Faraday Avenue. The intent of its design is to create a family-friendly
park that offers a range of inclusive, multi-generational amenities, supporting both active
recreation and more passive uses.
As an artwork designed specifically for the site – on the upper plateau at the park’s highest
point – the public art is intended to provide a contemplative space where visitors can enjoy the
view of the park, the lagoon and the coastline.
The park will also include a Veterans Memorial Plaza located at street level, adjacent to parking
and containing multiple elements to recognize different military branches as well as
opportunities to honor service members. That area will include a flagpole, a raised platform for
educational presentations and veterans events, benches, illuminated glass panels with etched
images and naming opportunities to honor veterans, and several places for commemorative
plaques or other elements that will be fully accessible.
Public art enhances the quality of life in Carlsbad, and aligns with the city’s General Plan,
Arts & Culture Master Plan, Art in Public Places Program and Carlsbad’s 5-Year Strategic Plan
goals. Carlsbad Municipal Code Section 2.18.110 requires all construction projects to include an
amount for works of art equal to at least 1% of the total cost of any such construction project as
estimated in the city’s capital improvement program.
Timeline
• A national call for artist qualifications was issued on Aug. 31, 2023, inviting artists and
artist teams to submit proposals for permanent public artwork at the upper plateau of
Veterans Memorial Park.
• The submission period closed on Oct. 24, 2023.
• A Public Art Advisory Subcommittee was formed and convened on April 25, 2024, to
review the submissions.
• After careful evaluation, the subcommittee selected four finalists, who presented their
concepts in person on June 12, 2024.
• Following this process, Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. was chosen to develop a site-
integrated, permanent public art installation for Veterans Memorial Park.
• The artist then developed three preliminary design concepts informed by community
input gathered during the initial engagement phase conducted during summer 2023.
“The Ring,” by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc.
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• From April 24 to June 25, 2025, community input on the preliminary design concepts
was gathered through online surveys and meetings with veterans' organizations.
• The Arts Commission recommended approval of the final public art design concept on
Aug. 7, 2025.
As noted above, the City Council is responsible for approving the final public artwork design
concepts recommended by the Carlsbad Arts Commission under Carlsbad Municipal Code
Chapter 2.18.120 and the Art in Public Places Program.
Community Engagement
Community input on the public art for Veterans Memorial Park has been gathered since
July 2023.
Phase 1: Understanding community values (2023)
Beginning in July 2023, the city gathered initial input to shape the national call for artists.
Feedback was collected through a survey, focus groups and meetings with veterans’
organizations. Opportunities were promoted through the city’s website and social media
channels, emails to interested stakeholders and direct outreach to veterans’ groups.
Several key themes emerged during this phase:
• Honoring military service
• Telling a meaningful story
• Encouraging reflection and respect
• Reflecting the unique character and values of the Carlsbad community
• Inviting engagement
• Fitting into the park’s natural setting
These themes were incorporated into the call for artists issued later that year.
Phase 2: Feedback on preliminary design concepts (2025)
In 2025, community members and veterans reviewed three preliminary design concepts
developed by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. Feedback was collected through an online
survey and meetings with veterans’ groups.
Key themes included:
• Desire for clear military symbolism
• Interest in creating a space for reflection
• Concerns about safety and durability
• Appreciation for designs that fit into the natural setting
• Suggestions to enhance storytelling
In response, the final design was modified to incorporate six vertical bars (three on each side)
to represent the six military service branches and address concerns about safety. It also
accommodates accessibility for people with disabilities. Seating and landscaping will be
addressed separately by the park project team as part of the park’s overall design.
A summary of this input is provided as Exhibit 5.
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Fiscal Analysis
The fiscal year 2025-26 Capital Improvement Program budget adopted by the City Council on
June 17, 2025, identifies a total current appropriation of $49,711,450 for Veterans Memorial
Park, Capital Improvement Program Project No. 4609. The current appropriation for public art is
$475,000. A design contract with Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. was executed on Jan. 28,
2025, for $95,000. Adequate funding is available in the project budget for fabrication and
installation of the proposed final design.
Next Steps
A contract for fabrication of the approved artwork by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. will be
provided for City Council review and approval at a future date. Installation will be coordinated
with the anticipated construction schedule of the park.
Environmental Evaluation
On June 15, 2022, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 7453, approving a
mitigated negative declaration and mitigation monitoring and reporting program, and
adopted Resolution No. 7454, approving Conditional Use Permit CUP 2021-0014, Coastal
Development Permit CDP 2021-0052, Hillside Development Permit HDP 2021-0006 and Habitat
Management Plan Permit HMP 2021-0006 for Veterans Memorial Park.
Exhibits
1. City Council resolution
2. Art in Public Places Program
3. Final public art design concept
4. Memo to City Council from Arts Commission
5. Veterans Memorial Park public art public input summary
6. Correspondence received through Thursday, Oct. 2, 2025, at noon
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Exhibit 1 RESOLUTION NO. 2025-228 .
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE FINAL PUBLIC ART DESIGN CONCEPT BY
GORDON HUETHER & PARTNERS, INC. FOR THE PERMANENT PUBLIC ART AT
VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 4609
WHEREAS, the city has a policy of appropriating at least 1% of the total costs of capital
construction for public art as defined in Carlsbad Municipal Code Chapter 2.18.110; and
WHEREAS, a total budget of $475,000 has been identified for permanent public art at Veterans
Memorial Park, Capital Improvement Program Project No. 4609; and
WHEREAS, Carlsbad Municipal Code Chapter 2.18.120 states that the selection of artists shall
be governed by the Art in Public Places Program as developed and adopted by the Arts Commission
and City Council; and
WHEREAS, on June 12, 2025, a Public Art Advisory Subcommittee of the Arts Commission
selected Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. to create the public art for the upper plateau of Veterans
Memorial Park; and
WHEREAS, public outreach and engagement activities have resulted in broad community
support for the final public art design concept by artist Gordon Huether; and
WHEREAS, on August 7, 2025, the Arts Commission recommended approval of the final public
art design concept; and
WHEREAS, City Council approval of the final design concept is required in accordance with the
Art in Public Places Program.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California, as
follows:
1.That the above recitations are true and correct.
2.That on June 15, 2022, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 7453,
approving a Mitigated Negative Declaration and Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting
Program, and adopted Resolution No. 7454, approving Conditional Use Permit CUP
2021-0014, Coastal Development Permit CDP 2021-0052, Hillside Development Permit
HDP 2021-0006 and Habitat Management Plan Permit HMP 2021-0006 for Veterans
Memorial Park.
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3.That City Council approves the final design concept by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc.
for permanent public art at Veterans Memorial Park, Capital Improvement Program
Project No. 4609.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City
of Carlsbad on the 7th day of October, 2025, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: Blackburn, Bhat-Patel, Acosta, Burkholder, Shin.
NAYS: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
______________________________________
KEITH BLACKBURN, Mayor
______________________________________
SHERRY FREISINGER, City Clerk
(SEAL)
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City of Carlsbad
Cultural Arts Office
Art in Public Places
Program
Mailing Address: Location:
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive 2955 Elmwood St.
Carlsbad, CA 92008 Carlsbad, CA 92008
Exhibit 2
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Table of Contents
Topic Page
Introduction .............................................................................. 3
Goals ................................................................................ 3
Public art as it relates to the city’s General Plan ............. 4
Purpose .................................................................................... 5
Intent ...................................................................................
Budget Process .......................................................................... 6
Capital Improvement Projects ......................................... 6
Community Arts Projects ................................................. 7
City Council Review .......................................................... 8
Initiating a Public Art Project .................................................... 8
Responsibilities ................................................................ 8
Selection Procedures .............................................................. 15
General Process ............................................................. 15
Public Art Advisory Committee ...................................... 16
Appeals Process ............................................................. 18
Insurance and Risk Management ........................................... 18
Policy on Donated Works, Gifts and Accessions ..................... 19
Procedures for Acquisition – Donated Artworks ........... 19
Donated Funds for Public Art ......................................... 21
Panel Review Process ..................................................... 21
Collection Management.......................................................... 22
Collection Management Goals ....................................... 22
Deaccession Policies ...................................................... 23
Adopted by the Carlsbad Arts Commission, May, 1995.
Updated February, 2014.
Adopted by City Council March 2015.
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Introduction
The City of Carlsbad’s Art in Public Places Program seeks to ensure the highest quality of
design where arts and culture and public art have a constant presence. The city wishes to
advance Carlsbad’s reputation as a unique community by expanding residents' appreciation of
art, reflecting the city's aspiration to improve the quality of life, enhancing public spaces for
all residents and visitors and becoming a world class city for innovation and creativity. The Art in
Public Places Program works to integrate art and the ideas of artists into the development of
public settings by collaborating with local and nationally-known artists to include the values and
history of our community into their work.
Goals
1. To increase the understanding and appreciation of art in public places of Carlsbad
residents and visitors.
2. To acquire and commission quality and diverse works of art for community enrichment
that is site specific and environmentally responsive.
3. To encourage participation of diverse socioeconomic and ethnic groups in the art in
public places program and process.
4. To support and involve artists in developing, collaborating and implementing Carlsbad's
public spaces and community development projects.
5. To encourage collaboration between artists and architects, landscape architects and civil
engineers for public projects.
6. To encourage an environment for artistic creativity in Carlsbad and promote Carlsbad as
a local, state and national leader in arts, culture and public art.
7. To increase awareness of Carlsbad's art in public places activities as an integral
component for attracting business and tourism to Carlsbad.
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Public Art as it relates to the City of Carlsbad General Plan
The General Plan outlines the community’s vision for the future development of Carlsbad. The
plan introduces its purpose, use, and policy structure, and how it can be amended and updated
to continually embody the Community’s Vision and direction for the future. The plan draws its
ideas from more than 8,000 residents and over 100 community groups and organizations, as
well as business owners, elected officials, and city staff who directly participated in the process
to create the Carlsbad Community Vision, which is the foundation for this plan. The plan is
comprehensive and long-range and will be used on an ongoing basis, reflecting the city’s
commitment to the Carlsbad Community Vision and the state law requirement that all actions
related to the city’s physical development—from transportation and park plans, to facility
plans, as well development regulations and fee programs—should be consistent with the
General Plan.
The Carlsbad Community Vision reflects the community’s aspirations for Carlsbad’s future; it is
a clear and motivational synthesis of the ideas expressed by community members during the
first phase of Envision Carlsbad. The Carlsbad Community Vision is based upon nine core values
that were commonly expressed by the community. These values represent the qualities and
characteristics of Carlsbad that community members aspire to protect, maintain, improve,
change or achieve in the future.
Small town feel, beach community character and connectedness
Open space and the natural environment
Access to recreation and active, healthy lifestyles
The local economy, business diversity and tourism
Walking, biking, public transportation and connectivity
Sustainability
High quality education and community services
Neighborhood revitalization, community design and livability
History, the arts and cultural resources
The Arts, History, Culture and Education (AHCE) Element of the General Plan recognizes that an
aesthetic environment and connections to culture and education are essential characteristics of
a community that values its quality of life and wishes to be seen by its residents, neighbors and
visitors as an attractive and desirable place, addressing the needs of the human spirit. This
element is intended to enhance availability and accessibility of the arts for all residents,
preservation of the important historic and cultural elements that make Carlsbad unique, and
educational opportunities for lifelong learning.
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Carlsbad boasts a variety of arts and cultural events, institutions and programs aimed at
promoting a sense of community identity and providing education and information about the
city’s heritage. Events such as ArtSplash, TGIF Concerts in the Parks and exhibits at the William
D. Cannon Art Gallery provide outlets for the arts and cultural community. These events help
Carlsbad residents from all cultural backgrounds to celebrate local traditions and heritage in
creative and inspiring ways by building connections between historic resources and the arts and
by promoting and strengthening both.
General Plan goals related to public art:
Integrate the arts and arts education as a vital aspect of community life, with a wide range
of facilities and public programs designed to engage the city’s diverse audiences as active
participants and patrons.
Foster an environment of active participation in and attendance at artistic and educational
programs and activities by residents and visitors.
Enhance cultural and generational diversity and social connections through opportunities
for volunteerism and civic engagement; more public gathering places, family-friendly
activities; and more events that connect residents to one another and keep them active in
the community.
General Plan policies related to public art:
Allocate funding for the purchase, maintenance and conservation of the city’s public art
collection and provide, when possible, for the siting, selection, installation and maintenance
of works of art within or upon public facilities and land.
Promote cooperative arrangements with other public or private agencies that facilitate the
temporary or permanent display of works of art within or upon public or private facilities
and land.
Develop programs that invest in and contribute to the enhancement of arts and cultural
programs, services, organizations and artists to foster ongoing cultural tourism efforts and
creative economy development in the city.
PURPOSE
It is the intent of city ordinance 2.18.110 (appropriations for arts) to direct the inclusion of
works of art in all city construction projects. The Art in Public Places Program is designed to
manage the acquisition and disposition of public art in order to expand residents’ and visitors’
experience with art and enable them to better understand their communities and their
individual lives. By encouraging artists capable of creating works of art in public places, the Art
in Public Places Program shall strive to stimulate the vitality and economy of the city and
enhance Carlsbad’s reputation as a regional leader in arts and culture.
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BUDGET PROCESS
There are two ways a public art project may be funded. These methods require Carlsbad Arts
Commission and City Council approval. The methods used to fund a project are:
Capital Improvement Projects
Funding for public art was authorized by City Council on May 7, 1985, under chapter 2.18.130
(Appropriations for Arts) of the Carlsbad Municipal Code. Within this chapter, all city
department heads are directed to include at least one percent of project cost estimates for a
public art element when requesting Capital Improvement Projects (CIPs) authorizations or
appropriations. All Capital Improvement Projects must include public art as a design
requirement.
For the purposes of the Art in Public Places Program, Capital Improvement Project means any of
the following:
1. Construction, reconstruction, or renovation in excess of $500,000, involving any publicly
owned, leased, or operated facility including any plant, building, structure, utility
system, real property, streets and highways, or other public work improvement.
2. Street or streetscape improvement projects other than street repair or reconstruction.
In the case of streetscape and right-of-way enhancement projects, streetscape means
an improvement to a public right-of-way, including a sidewalk, tree, light fixture, sign,
and furniture. Some funding sources (e.g., sources restricted to “transportation
purposes” or “direct construction costs”) may prohibit formula-based expenditures for
art. Thus, percent for art will not be collected from those sources. However, City Council
may provide funding for public art for street or streetscape improvements from General
Fund revenues on a case by case basis.
3. In the case of a publicly owned utility system, capital improvement project shall include
only the construction, erection, improvement, of dams, reservoirs and power plants.
For the purposes of the Art in Public Places Program, Capital Improvement Project does not
mean any of the following maintenance work:
1. Routine, recurring and usual work for the preservation or protection of any publicly
owned or publicly operated facility (see 2.18110 b-1) for its intended purposes.
2. Resurfacing of streets and highways.
3. Landscape maintenance, including mowing, watering, trimming, pruning, planting,
replacement of plants, and servicing of irrigation and sprinkler systems.
4. Work performed to keep, operate, and maintain publicly owned water, power, or waste
disposal systems, including, but not limited to, dams, reservoirs, and power plants.
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Annually, the Administrative Services Department of the City of Carlsbad will verify the one
percent for public art allocation for all eligible CIP projects has been included in the budgeted
amounts for City Council approval. As an alternative, where funding for eligible projects is
restricted and cannot be used for public art, the City Council may appropriate percent for art
funding from the General Capital Construction Fund or the General Fund. The funds for art
allocations may be used for projects located at the direct site of the CIP project, or pooled for
other future public art projects identified by the cultural arts manager and Carlsbad Arts
Commission. The park in lieu fee funded percent for art allocations must be used for artwork at
a park within the same quadrant where the fee was paid.
Community Arts Projects
The second method is a Community Arts Project. In addition to the above Capital Improvement
Projects, the city may wish to provide art in other significant locations throughout Carlsbad.
These projects may be initiated by a request from City Council or City Manager’s office, city
departments or commissions, community members or groups or individual artists. Requests
may include proposals for permanently placed artworks or temporary exhibitions or projects.
Requests will be reviewed by the cultural arts manager and forwarded to the public art advisory
committee and the Carlsbad Arts Commission. If approved, the recommendation will go to the
City Council as a request for appropriation. In most cases, these projects will be listed in and
submitted as part of the annual budget process.
A Community Arts Project request should include the following information:
A. Title of the Capital Improvement or Community Project identified for public art (if any).
B. Location of the project (description and map).
C. Source of funding for the proposed artwork.
D. Fiscal year or years the project covers and the amount of funds requested per year.
E. Amount of appropriation requested for the project in total.
F. Proposed method of selection for the artist/artwork.
G. General description of the artist’s involvement with the CIP project.
H. Statement of project need.
I. Project description (statement).
J. Outline of operational costs (if any).
K. Any additional information as required by the specific site, project or design.
*F, G, I and K will be completed by the Cultural Arts Office.
Funding for the Community Art Projects may come from individuals, community organizations
or other city departments. City Council may also choose to fund public art projects from the
General Fund, special projects fund or other sources.
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City Council Review
All public art projects in the City of Carlsbad require City Council approval at three stages. These
stages are:
A. Appropriation of funds.
B. Approval of contracts (both individual artists/artwork and integrated Capital
Improvement Projects which exceeds the city manager’s authority).
C. Final approval of the final design concepts.
This approval is presented in the form of an agenda item, which is prepared by the Cultural Arts
Office staff.
INITIATING A PUBLIC ART PROCESS
Responsibilities
City Council
1. Appoints and empowers the Carlsbad Arts Commission.
2. Receives recommendations from the Carlsbad Arts Commission on public art policies
and issues.
3. Reviews and adopts the annual Capital Improvement Project budget.
4. Approves final public artwork design concepts recommended by the Carlsbad Arts
Commission.
5. Approves artists’ contracts for public art projects exceeding the city manager’s signature
authority.
6. In the case of a CIP project where the artwork is an integrated part of that project, the
City Council will be asked to approve the artwork as part of the project to go out to bid,
not as a separate unit. The City Council will not be asked to make an aesthetic judgment.
This will be determined by the Carlsbad Arts Commission after a process has been
completed which has involved input from the public.
7. In the case of artwork which is not an integrated part of the capital improvement
project, the City Council will be asked to approve the final design concepts.
Carlsbad Arts Commission
1. Makes recommendations on policies and procedures related to the Art in Public Places
Program.
2. Approves selection of public art and/or artist.
3. Serves as part of the public art advisory committee.
4. Approves changes and updates to the Art in Public Places Program policies and
procedures.
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Public Art Advisory Committee
Reports to the cultural arts manager on the following:
1. Offers recommendations on all public art projects.
2. Reports on possible public art sites.
3. Submits recommendations on site integrations, scope of project, selected media,
selection criteria and process.
4. Reviews proposals.
5. Recommends policy to the Carlsbad Arts Commission.
Cultural Arts Office
1. Determines and implements artist selection and review processes for public art projects.
2. Assembles public art advisory committee to assist in artist selection and review.
3. Handles all administrative components:
a. Liaison to all groups: Carlsbad Arts Commission, city departments, outside
agencies, community representatives and selection panels, public art advisory
committee.
b. Works with artists on contracts, proposal development and project coordination.
4. Provides education, publicity and information materials.
5. Reports to City Council on public art projects, issues and trends.
6. Manages, documents and conserves collection.
7. Implements approved program guidelines.
8. Develops and coordinates community involvement.
9. Works with private sector to promote the arts.
10. Works with private developers on public art projects in private development.
Host City Department
1. Includes at least one percent of Capital Improvement Project cost in all construction
projects for public art (or via the Administrative Services Department).
2. Coordinates project integration at site with Cultural Arts Office and artist.
3. Representative serves on selection panel/public art advisory committee.
4. Co-hosts dedication of public artwork.
5. Maintains artwork according to conservation directions in consultation with the Cultural
Arts Office.
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Artworks
The City of Carlsbad wishes to encourage the broadest interpretation of art and the diverse
venues used by artists. Artworks may include all forms of original creations of visual art which
may be portable as well as permanent. The various media and materials which can be used by
contemporary artists include but are not limited to the following:
1. Sculpture: Free standing, wall supported or suspended; kinetic, electronic, etc., in any
material or combination of durable materials.
2. Murals or portable paintings: In any material or variety of materials, with or without
collage or the addition of non-traditional materials and means.
3. Earthworks, fiber works, neon, glass, mosaics, photographs, prints, calligraphy, any
combination of forms of media including sound film, holographic and video systems,
hybrids of any media and new genres.
4. Standardized fixtures such as gates, streetlights, etc., may be contracted to artists for
unique or limited editions, provided the work is designed specifically for the city as
public art.
5. Architectural elements designed and executed by visual artists in collaboration with an
architect or landscape architect; which may be incorporated into, upon or adjacent to
publicly funded structures or projects such as streetscapes and other development
efforts.
6. Design elements incorporated into a Capital Improvement Project that are designed by
an artist for fabrication and execution by the project contractor.
Exclusions
The following items are identified as ineligible for inclusion in the city’s Art in Public Places
Program.
(These items may be funded through other programs or departments within the city, but they
do not fall within the parameters of public art):
1. Directional elements such as supergraphics, signage or color coding except where these
elements are integral parts of the original work of art.
2. “Art objects” which are mass produced as a standard design such as playground
equipment, fountains or statuary objects.
3. Reproductions, by mechanical or other means of original works of art, except in cases of
film, video, photography, printmaking or other media arts, specifically commissioned by
the city.
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4. Decorative, ornamental or functional elements which are designed by the building
architect as opposed to an artist commissioned for this purpose.
5. Landscape architecture and landscape gardening except where these elements are
designed by an artist and/or are an integral part of the work of art by an artist.
6. Services or utilities necessary to operate or maintain the artwork over time.
7. Existing works of art offered for sale or donation to the city which do not have an
established and recognized significance as public art among art professionals and art
appraisers.
8. Works of art which are not publicly accessible.
9. Works of art which cannot reasonably be maintained within the resources allocated by
the residents of Carlsbad.
Project Parameters
In coordination with the schedule of the Capital Improvement Project or of a public art project
obtained through other means, the Cultural Arts Office proceeds according to the following
steps:
1. Project Identification: The Cultural Arts Office starts the project after consultation with
the Administrative Services Department, Host City Department and the Carlsbad Arts
Commission.
2. Administrative Parameters: Following initial consultations with the city department
concerned with the project, the Cultural Arts Office will convene a meeting of the public
art advisory committee. The public art advisory committee shall consider and make
recommendation to the cultural arts manager and the Carlsbad Arts Commission
regarding the following aspects:
a. Project site and the scope of the project.
b. Project guidelines to be used for the artwork. These guidelines might suggest the
possible venue (mural, freestanding sculpture, architectural element, etc.)
c. Selection criteria for the project to be used by the committee members.
d. Project calendar developed in conjunction within the overall schedule.
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Following Cultural Arts staff and Carlsbad Arts Commission (if needed) approval, the following
steps will be taken;
1. Administrative components:
a. Develop and send requests for qualifications, requests for proposal(s) or prospectus
to artists.
b. Develop a project outline to further define the goals and objectives of the art
project.
c. Prepare all necessary materials, entries or proposals for the public art advisory committee.
2. The public art advisory committee meets to select an artist or an artwork. All finalist or
selected artworks (proposals) should be ranked in the order of selection in case the
chosen artists cannot complete the project.
3. Selection approval: All selections and finalists are submitted to the Carlsbad Arts
Commission.
Design Only
4. Upon acceptance of the artist by the Carlsbad Arts Commission, the Cultural Arts Office
will negotiate a contract with the artist.
5. Design Phase: The artist develops the design in consultation with the Cultural Arts Office
and the Host City Department.
Design and Fabrication
6. When artwork includes fabrication, a contract is approved prior to the design phase for
both design and fabrication. Upon acceptance of the design by the Carlsbad Arts
Commission and approval from City Council, the artist may proceed to the fabrication
stage of the contract.
According to the terms and timetable defined in the contract, the project(s), plans, schematics
and structural engineering drawings (if necessary) are submitted. Agency requirements or
permits are obtained at this time.
Payments will be outlined in the contract(s). Final payment is held until all phases of the
contract are completed.
7. Project dedication: Dedication is planned with the Cultural Arts Office, artist, Host City
Department and Communications Office.
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Site Selection Guidelines
All sites for public art will be reviewed and approved by the Cultural Arts Office and the
Carlsbad Arts Commission. The selection of an artwork and the appropriate media are
determined on a project-by-project basis.
The public art advisory committee will consider:
1. Accessibility of the site. The site must be accessible or visible to the public.
2. Interior or exterior placement.
3. Suitable locations for public art. Locations may include surface treatments on buildings,
retaining walls or bridges. Other locations may include design elements or free standing
works adjacent to or upon the Capital Improvement Project site. The definition of
location may be expanded by an artist’s ability to extend the possibilities of public art in
an unconventional manner. This will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
4. Appropriateness of materials in relationship to the overall project. This includes
consideration such as durability and resistance to vandalism.
5. Community context should be considered in all cases.
6. Historical, environmental and cultural factors of the project area.
7. Environmental factors such as land forms, geographic features or predominate or pre-
existing structures or landmarks at a Capital Improvement Project site.
Community representatives will be consulted by the public art advisory committee when
studying a public art site. Also, community representatives will be included in the public art
advisory committee.
Eligible Costs
1. Professional fees for the artist(s).
2. Required permits or certification fees including structural engineering.
3. Studio and operating costs incurred in the fabrication of commissioned artworks.
4. Fabrication costs including artist’s labor, materials, subcontractor and studio assistant
fees, and contracted services required for production, transport and installation of the
work of art.
5. Communication and indirect costs (including insurance and utilities).
6. Travel expenses of the artists(s) for consultation with the city or its agents, or for site
study and/or inspection by the artist or the artist’s consultants doing research for the
project.
7. Site preparation or modification directly related to the installation of the artwork.
8. All required services to install the commissioned artwork (including subcontractors),
except site landscaping or modifications not directly related to the artwork.
9. Documentation from the artist of the artwork required by the city (i.e. accession report,
conservation record, photo documentation, etc.).
10. Administrative costs.
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Ineligible Costs
The city’s Art in Public Places Program will not fund the following:
1. Any fees paid to an artist’s agency, gallery or dealer; or any referral, commission or fee
paid to an art consultant; or any fee paid to other arts professionals not directly
involved in the engineering, fabrication or installation of the artwork.
2. Architectural or decorative elements designed by an artist, but not specifically
commissioned by the city for a Capital Improvement Project site; or existing art
elements which do not receive approval through the city’s regular public art acquisition
process.
3. Any costs incurred as a result of cost overruns incurred by the artist or contractor.
Administrative Costs
Up to 20 percent of the funds budgeted for a public art project may be used by the city for
administration or conservation and related expenses incurred in the process of commissioning
a public artwork. These expenses may include the following:
1. Information and publicity materials regarding public art projects.
2. Consultant or curatorial fees for services utilized by the city in the selection of an artist.
3. Developing, printing and distributing a request for proposal, request for qualification or
a call for artist’s project prospectus.
4. Travel expenses incurred by consultants and city staff deemed necessary to the project;
and for artists selected as finalists who are required to travel for public art advisory
committee meetings upon the city’s request.
5. Proposal development fees for artist upon being selected to design, exclusive of travel
and per diem; or maquette fees as approved by the Cultural Arts Office.
6. Technical assistance or advice to the cultural arts office staff as required to inspect,
develop or install an artwork. Also, costs incurred in relationship to any structural
integrity and safety compliance inspection or examination.
7. Rental of storage space as required which may be due to delay installing the work,
should the city fail to prepare the site at the agreed upon installation date.
8. Documentation and media services required in the accession of the artwork into the
public art collection, including plaques or labels.
9. Project dedication ceremonies and civic receptions related to public art projects.
10. Conservation costs: (See below for more details).
11. Community involvement and education related to public art.
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Conservation Costs
Part of the 20 percent administration costs for a public art project may be held in a trust fund to
conserve, maintain and repair artworks as needed by the city. The percentage amount will be
determined by the Cultural Arts Office, and may be used as follows:
1. Routine maintenance: Removal of dust, dirt, maintenance of protective surfaces;
tightening, adjusting or oiling; trimming of plant material (if part of the actual artwork),
general cleaning (usually paid by the Host City Department).
2. Cyclic maintenance: Repainting, sealing, disassembly for inspection, reapplying
protective surfaces, repatination (in specific cases).
3. Repair or restoration: Replacement of damaged or broken parts, manufacture of
defective components, replacement of substructures or mountings, resurfacing (in
extreme cases).
4. Removal and/or deaccession: The removal and destruction of an artwork upon the
determination for deaccession and disposal as described in the deaccession report.
5. Inspection: Any costs related to the inspection of a public artwork, including the fees or costs
incurred in hiring conservation professionals as consultants.
The conservation fund will not be used for the relocation of an artwork. The only exception will
be if the relocation is to protect the work. In most cases, the host city department should pay
for any relocation requested by that department. Funding for conservation costs and other
maintenance may also be funded by direct allocation by City Council for such activities.
SELECTON PROCEDURES
General Process
The following methods may be used to select public art:
1. Open Competition: The proposed commission and site are widely publicized. Proposals
are accepted from all qualified artists. A “Call to Artists” prospectus will be mailed to
artists registered with or requesting forms from the Cultural Arts Office. Depending on
the size of the commission, the competition may be local, regional or national. No
proposal development fee will be paid at the initial stages. A fee will be paid to finalists
only following their selection and upon approval by the Carlsbad Arts Commission.
2. Limited Competition: A small number of artists will be invited to participate in the
competition. Each artist will be paid a fee to develop a proposal to be presented to a
public art advisory committee for study and recommendation.
3. Collaboration: Based on reputation and experience, an artist is invited to develop a
proposal for the site or to work collaboratively with architects, engineers or landscape
architects to create artwork integral to a project.
4. Artist Registry: Periodically, the Cultural Arts Office may send out a call for artists or a
request for qualifications to develop an artist registry for future public art projects.
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Artists will be required to submit specific information to the Cultural Arts Office to be
included in the registry for consideration for future public art projects. From time-to-
time, selection committees may review the registry in selecting artists for art in public
places project. In addition, the registry can be made available to developers as a
resource. Applicants may also be considered for temporary exhibitions or special
community projects.
When the Cultural Arts Office opens the registry for submissions, a public art advisory
committee will be convened to act as a selection panel. The artist’s registry offers the
opportunity to consider all interested artists.
Public Art Advisory Committee
The public art advisory committee advises the Cultural Arts Office and Carlsbad Arts
Commission on matters pertaining to public art and acts as the selection committee for public
art projects. The members of a public art advisory committee will be selected on the basis of
each members’ specific expertise relating to public art or relationship to the project. Public art
advisory committees may be convened by the cultural arts manager on a project specific basis
or to serve on multiple public art projects. The committees meet (as necessary) to complete the
artist selection or proposal review.
Voting members: All voting members shall meet the criteria established in at least one of the
following four categories:
1. Artists or arts professionals who are:
a. Knowledgeable about contemporary art of related fields.
b. Respected within their field.
c. Capable of communicating effectively in a jury process.
d. Willing to be available for multiple or follow-up meetings if necessary
(No geographical restrictions on artists or arts professionals selected).
2. Carlsbad Arts Commission members who are assigned to the public art committee and
who are:
a. Willing to represent the commission and the local community’s interest in a public
art project.
b. Willing to familiarize themselves with the public art process.
c. Capable of communicating effectively in a jury process.
d. Willing to be available for multiple or follow-up meetings if necessary.
3. Residents of Carlsbad who are:
a. Willing to represent the local community’s interest in a public art project.
b. Willing to familiarize themselves with the public art process.
c. Capable of communicating effectively in a jury process.
d. Willing to be available for multiple or follow-up meetings if necessary.
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4. City or other agency representative(s) who:
a. Represent the department or departments involved in the project to include public
art.
b. An expert in the design, planning or implementation of the specific project involved.
c. Willing to carry out the City Council’s mandate to implement an arts element.
d. Willing to be available for follow-up meetings and department consultations.
Non-voting members: The purpose of non-voting members is to offer advice and expertise to
the public art advisory committee.
The panel may include the following non-voting members:
a. Cultural Arts Office staff members.
b. City department or agency representatives.
c. Architects or engineers who may be involved on a Capital Improvement Project.
d. Neighborhood association representatives or residents at large who live in the
community.
e. State or federal agency representatives either providing funding or granting permits for
a public art project.
f. Experts of paid consultants who have specialized knowledge required for a specific
aspect of a project.
The public art advisory committee shall have the following responsibilities:
a. Recommend artist(s)/artwork for each project to the Carlsbad Arts Commission.
b. The cultural arts manager will facilitate the Carlsbad Arts Commission’s determination of
the public art advisory committee.
c. The Carlsbad Arts Commission shall appoint two to three members to serve on the
public art advisory committee. The public art advisory committee shall serve at the
discretion of the cultural arts manager and may be removed by the cultural arts
manager.
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Selection Guidelines
Selection guidelines are established for each project by the Cultural Arts Office staff, with input
from the Carlsbad Arts Commission. Each proposed project will be evaluated as to: artistic merit
and appropriateness in terms of scale, materials and context relative to the site.
Artists will be selected on the basis of their qualifications as demonstrated by past work,
appropriateness of the proposal to the particular project, and its probability of successful
completion. In selecting artists and works of art, the panel shall recommend those artists and
works of art of the highest aesthetic and artistic quality, and those which fulfill the goals of the
project and the Art in Public Places Program. In all cases, consideration will be given to content,
materials, construction, durability, maintenance, public access and safety; as well as site
selection guidelines on page 12.
The Carlsbad Arts Commission will review the selection forwarded by the public art advisory
committee and vote to accept or reject the recommendation. If the Carlsbad Arts Commission
approves the selection, the Cultural Arts Office will proceed with the project and initiate the
City Council approval process.
Appeal Process
The Carlsbad Arts Commission and the Cultural Arts Office have adopted a policy that provides
for a process of appeal by an organization or individual whose proposal was not approved. The
city manager makes final decisions in all matters in dealing with the denials of public art
proposals based on staff input and the Carlsbad Arts Commission recommendations. Arts
Commission meetings are public meetings held throughout the year, and provide opportunities
for citizen comments on program guidelines, general and specific Carlsbad Arts Commission and
Cultural Arts Office policies, objectives, budget requests, and other matters. During these
meetings, public comment from organizations, artists and members of the public is
encouraged. Contact the cultural arts manager for more information regarding an appeal of any
public art proposal submission.
INSURANCE AND RISK MANAGEMENT
1. All public artworks commissioned by the city will be submitted to the risk manager at
the planning and contract negotiation stages.
2. The risk manager will determine:
a. If liability insurance will be required.
b. The extent of coverage and limits of liability.
c. Any additional insurance or coverage required for fabrication and installation.
3. All artists working on a public art project are required to provide proof of automobile
liability coverage to the risk manager if driving within the City of Carlsbad.
4. Additional certificates of coverage may be required if requested.
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POLICY ON DONATED WORKS, GIFTS AND ACCESSIONS
Acquisitions Policy
Donated Works
Ordinance No. 1279, Chapter 2.18 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code states that the Arts
Commission shall have power to “review and make recommendations upon all works of art to
be acquired by the City, either by purchase, gift or otherwise and their proposed locations”.
The City of Carlsbad encourages donations of works of Art in Public Places Program. As the City
of Carlsbad grows, more and more people are interested in contributing to the cultural life of
the city through the donation of works of art. There are instances, however, where work may
be significant but not appropriate to accept: the work may be too costly for the city to install, or
no appropriate site can be found, or maintenance may be costly; for example. The city wishes
to encourage donations of works of art, but at the same time it must be sensitive to its fiduciary
and stewardship responsibilities as well.
When gifts or donations are proposed for the commissioning or placement of major works of
art or works of cultural or historic significance with any city department, the proposal shall be
reviewed by the cultural arts manager and forwarded to the Carlsbad Arts Commission for
review and consideration. This procedure shall also apply to works of art proposed for long-
term loan to the city long term loan is defined as any loan longer than one year.
Objectives of this policy are:
To provide uniform procedures for review and acceptance of gifts and long term loans
of works of art or works of cultural or historic significance to the City of Carlsbad.
To vest in a single city agency the responsibility for ensuring management and oversight
of the city’s public works of art.
To facilitate placement of works of art in city facilities or on city land.
To maintain high artistic standards in works of art displayed by the City of Carlsbad.
To provide for appropriate recognition of donors of works of art to the City of Carlsbad.
Procedures for potential donors are as follows:
1. The donor notifies the Cultural Arts Office in writing of his/her desire to donate an
artwork or works of cultural or historic significance to the city, providing as many details
as possible about the proposed gift.
2. Cultural Arts Office staff may consult with the donor on site selection and in
development of cost estimates for installation and maintenance. The donor may also be
asked to provide a professional appraisal of the artwork and disclose the value in
writing.
3. The cultural arts manager will convene a public art advisory committee to review the
proposed donation.
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4. The public art advisory committee shall develop a recommendation on the acceptability
of the gift of artwork based on the following criteria:
a. Its aesthetic quality.
b. The professional credentials of the artist.
c. Its suitability for public display in terms of: vulnerability to vandalism; safety; costs
of site preparation, installation and insurance; and technical feasibility.
d. The most appropriate site for its installation and the ability of the recipient city
department to maintain the site and the artwork.
5. The recommendation of the public art advisory committee is then brought forward to
the Carlsbad Arts Commission for consideration.
6. If the Carlsbad Arts Commission rejects the donation offer, it is returned to the donor.
If the Carlsbad Arts Commission decides to move forward on the donation proposal, they can
proceed in two ways:
1. The Carlsbad Arts Commission can make a recommendation to City Council to accept
the artwork donation.
2. The Carlsbad Arts Commission can seek public input. Information about the work
(model, renderings, artist information) is put on public display for review and comments
from the public. Comments are then brought back to the Carlsbad Arts Commission who
considers the matter for a second time and in turn, rejects the donation proposal or
makes a recommendation to City Council to accept the artwork.
3. The City Council accepts the gift.
4. The city will only accept gifts without restrictions and waiver of all rights.
Upon acceptance of the art donation/gift, the Cultural Arts Office will complete an accession
report along with a conservation record and an accession report. Once the gift and donations
are accepted by City Council, the artwork becomes a part of the city’s public art collection.
Temporary Public Art for Exhibition:
All of the above policies apply to donated artworks with the following exceptions:
1. An appraisal may or may not be required for temporary artwork.
2. The Carlsbad Arts Commission will make the determination if a temporary artwork loan
is appropriate.
3. City Council approval will not be required for temporary art, except in cases involving
public safety or other issues identified by the Cultural Arts Manager or the Commission.
4. Temporary public art and other visual art programs initiated or sponsored by the
Cultural Arts Office do not require Carlsbad Arts Commission or City Council approval.
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Donated Funds for Public Art
From time to time, individuals, civic business or corporate groups may wish to donate funds for
the acquisition and placement of public art within the city or for maintenance of public
artworks. The Carlsbad Arts Commission and the city wish to encourage donations of artwork or
funds to acquire and maintain artworks.
All donated funds will be deposited in a special revenue account dedicated for the purpose of
supporting public art upon acceptance by the City Council. All funds will be accepted without
restriction or stipulations.
All funds will be spent in accordance with the provisions of the acquisitions policy, with the
exception of sections addressing appraisal and review for acceptability of the gift.
Artworks acquired with the donated funds will be selected according to the selection
procedures outlined in this document (see page 15).
Panel Review Process for Gifts and Donations
A public art advisory committee will review the artwork and develop a recommendation for the
Carlsbad Arts Commission on the acceptability of the gift or donation. The donation will be
processed according to the procedures outlined in the Art in Public Places Program.
Upon acceptance of the art donation/gift, the Cultural Arts Office will complete an accession
report along with a conservation record. Once the gift and donations are accepted by City
Council, the artwork becomes part of the city’s Art in Public Art Collection.
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COLLECTION MANAGEMENT
Collection Management Goals
One of Carlsbad’s Art in Public Places Program goals is to administer, maintain and conserve the
public art collection. The premises for this goal are as follows:
1. Public art held in the civic collection are held as a public trust. The Host City Department
has a legal obligation to protect artworks as both public assets and as objects of cultural
significance.
2. Public art which is well cared for demonstrates a commitment to the cultural vitality of
the city, and is a symbol of a community’s civic pride.
3. The care and maintenance of a public artwork preserves the original intention of both
the artist and the civic leaders who sponsored the artwork.
4. It is less expensive to maintain an artwork on a routine basis that it is to restore a
damaged or neglected artwork.
5. A well-maintained artwork is a fixed public asset which retains its value and may
appreciate in value over time.
All artworks acquired by commission, purchase, gift, or other means will be a fixed asset of the
Host City Department and the city, and all artworks within the public art collection will fall
under the administrative authority of the Cultural Arts Office. To ensure that the city and the
public are offered a full accounting of public funds and assets regarding the public art
collection, the Cultural Arts Office will maintain a complete registry of works within the
collection.
Responsibilities:
Cultural Arts Office:
The Cultural Arts Office will provide for the inspection of and will report on each work of art in
the public art collection on an ongoing basis, including the following information;
a. Present location of the artwork.
b. Present condition of the artwork.
c. Recommendations in regard to necessary maintenance or repairs of the artwork.
d. This regular inspection may be carried out by Cultural Arts Office staff, or may be
contracted to a qualified individual or an approved conservation service.
Host City Department:
a. Routine maintenance will be the responsibility of the Host City Department in
consultation with the Cultural Arts Office. All repairs must be consistent with the routine
maintenance schedule as completed by the artist and the Cultural Arts Office.
b. In the case of extraordinary maintenance or repairs to the artwork, the Host City
Department and the Cultural Arts Office may negotiate the manner and funding for the
repairs.
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c. The Host City Department will not affect any extraordinary maintenance or repair to an
artwork without the consent of the Cultural Arts Office.
d. The Host City Department will not move an artwork from the site for which it was
selected or remove it from display without prior approval of the Cultural Arts Office and
the Carlsbad Arts Commission.
Deaccessioning Policy
Deaccessioning is defined here as the process by which the Cultural Arts Office and the Carlsbad
Arts Commission recommends, acting in accordance with the policies and procedures City
Council has adopted, approval to oversee the disposal of a work of art from the City of
Carlsbad’s public art collection through sale, trade or other public means. Periodically, the city’s
public art collection shall be evaluated by the Cultural Arts Office in order to determine what
works, if any, will be deaccessioned.
It is recognized that the deaccessioning of artworks is a very delicate matter, and must be
handled with the greatest diplomacy. Any apprehension on the part of donors and/or artists
that their works might be disposed of to pay operating expenses or to satisfy the trading desires
of the city could easily discourage and alienate potential donors and/or artists.
Moreover, if not properly conducted, deaccessioning can cause irreparable harm to the city’s
public art collection and, in certain cases, lead to legal action against the city. The Cultural Arts
Office has a fiduciary obligation to maintain the public art collection for the benefit of Carlsbad
residents.
The policies outlined below shall be subject to periodic review. From time to time, as necessary,
the Carlsbad Arts Commission may recommend incorporation into this policy such additional
guidelines as it deems essential.
Policies
1. No work of art may be deaccessioned until all policies set forth below have been
observed.
2. Criteria for selecting works for deaccessioning:
The City of Carlsbad may choose to deaccession works only if, in the opinion of the
cultural arts manager, they meet at least one of the following criteria:
a. If the city cannot properly care for or store the works.
b. If the works have little or no aesthetic and/or historical/cultural value.
c. If the works represent in large quantity a single artist of minor stature. In such a
case, staff may recommend it both sufficient and desirable to retain only a
representative selection.
d. If the works are duplicates (e.g., prints, sculptures, multiples) of lesser quality of
works already in the collection.
e. If the work are copies or pastiches without significant historical, documentary or
aesthetic value.
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f. If the works are forgeries or fakes. The Cultural Arts Office staff is responsible for
ensuring that any forgery or fake it disposes of be identified as such when it leaves
the city’s public art collection.
g. Works whose condition requires restoration in gross excess of their aesthetic value
or works is such a deteriorated stat that restoration would prove either unfeasible
or misleading.
3. Application of monies raised from deaccession.
Monies raised from the sale of deaccessioned works shall be placed in a special
revenue fund to be used only for acquisitions of new works or restoration for
works in the city’s public art collection.
4. Deaccessioning through trade.
In some cases, the Carlsbad Arts Commission may recommend to trade a
deaccessioned work for another by the same artist.
5. All deaccessioned works are disposed of through public negotiations whether by sale,
trade, or other means; unless that artwork is determined to be destroyed and beyond
repair. In the first instance, the original artist will be offered the deaccessioned work, to
be removed at the artist’s expense.
6. Acknowledgements.
In acquiring an object through trade or through monies raised from the sale of
deaccessioned objects, the Cultural Arts Office acknowledges in the credit of the
acquired object the donor(s) of the original object or objects.
7. No work of art may be deaccessioned from the city’s public art collection before five
years have elapsed; unless that artwork is deemed to be destroyed and not repairable.
8. In keeping with the California Resale Royalties Act, if a deaccessioned work of art is sold,
5 percent of the sale price of any work valued over $1,000 will be given to the artist who
created the work, provided that the artist can be located by reasonable means. If the
artist cannot be found, the Resale Royalty shall revert to a City of Carlsbad special
revenue account dedicated for the purpose of supporting public art.
9. A recommendation for deaccessioning will be developed by the cultural arts manager
and presented to the Arts Commission for review and approval. The Carlsbad Arts
Commission will make a recommendation to City Council for deaccession. City Council
ultimately makes the final determination.
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Request for Removal or Relocation of Public Art
Procedures
A person wishing to remove or relocate a work in the City of Carlsbad’s public art collection
from its current display location must first complete a “Request for Removal or Relocation of
Public Art” form (hereinafter, “request”) sign his/her name, and mail or email the completed
form to the Cultural Arts Office.
The request will be reviewed by the cultural arts manager. The cultural arts manager shall
review the request and all available and relevant file material associated with the original
development of the project. The cultural arts manager will forward a recommendation to the
Carlsbad Arts Commission.
The Carlsbad Arts Commission will then review the “request”, associated file materials and the
cultural arts manager’s recommendation and vote on a recommendation. If the Carlsbad Arts
Commission disagrees with the complainant and votes not to recommend removal or relocation
of the artwork, the matter ends. If the Carlsbad Arts Commission agrees with the complainant
and votes to recommend removal or relocation of the artwork, the recommendation will be
forwarded to City Council for final decision.
The complainant shall be notified of the Carlsbad Arts Commission’s decision within 120 days of
submitting the request.
Deaccessioning Report
The Cultural Arts Office will determine to deaccession a work of art when necessary due to
deterioration, loss or transfer by gift, sale or exchange.
Deaccessioning an artwork will be recorded. A brief report should accompany these records
stating who authorized the deaccession of the work, when the work was removed and how the
work was disposed of.
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Final Design Rendering with Response to Feedback
provided by Gordon Huether Studios
Exhibit 3
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Final Design Rendering with Response to Feedback
provided by Gordon Huether Studios
Stronger Military Connection
While the lower portion of the park already features a literal Military Memorial, this sculpture is intended to offer
a more abstract representation. In response to the request for a stronger military connection, we have
incorporated six skate stops at the base of the sculpture. These serve both as a deterrent to misuse and as
symbolic references to the six branches of the U.S. Military. Upon request, we can also design an interpretive
plaque to further articulate this connection for visitors.
Safety Concerns
The six integrated stops not only function as skate deterrents but also enhance the military symbolism by
representing the six military branches. This dual-purpose design element addresses both safety and conceptual
integrity.
ADA Accessibility
During Design Development, all ADA requirements will be addressed to ensure the sculpture is accessible and
inclusive for visitors of all abilities.
Greater Size
The final size of the sculpture will be determined by the budget. As we are currently in the Schematic Design
phase, dimensions have not yet been finalized. Once fabrication details are defined and cost estimates
developed, the sculpture will be scaled to maximize impact within the available budget.
Seating
The bench shown in initial renderings was a placeholder. All landscaping and hardscaping will be planned and
implemented by the City of Carlsbad Parks Department in collaboration with GHS. This process has not yet begun
but will result in a thoughtful, user-friendly design for the space.
Note: Six 1” x 1” steel square tubes will
be installed along the lower portion of
the Ring to deter skateboard activity.
Additionally, the use of six elements
serves as a symbolic tribute to the six
branches of the U.S. Military.
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1775 Dove Lane Carlsbad, CA ZIP code 442-339-2026 t
Council Memorandum
September 8, 2025
To: Honorable Mayor Blackburn and Members of the City Council
From: Arts Commission, Barbara Chung, Chair
Via: Cultural Arts Manager, Craddock Stropes
Re: Support of Veteran Memorial Park Public Art Design Memorandum (All)
This memorandum provides a status on the Veteran Memorial Upper Plateau Public Art project.
On August 7, 2025, the Arts Commission received a presentation outlining community public
input with city direction and the resulting final design concept for the project.
At that meeting, through proper motion and vote, the Arts Commission formally affirmed its
support of the final design concept.
Respectfully,
Arts Commission Board
Barbara Chung, Chair
Nora George, Vice Chair
Michelle Breyer
Frances Carrillo
Angela Ferone
Gita Nassiri
Diana Clark
cc: Geoff Patnoe, City Manager
Sheila Cobain, Assistant City Manager
Gary Barberio, Deputy City Manager
Cindie McMahon, City Attorney
Suzanne Smithson, Library & Cultural Arts Director
Kyle Lancaster, Parks & Recreation Director
Amy Ventetuolo, Communications & Engagement Director
Exhibit 4
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Permanent Public Art:
Veterans Memorial Park
Capital Improvement Program, Project No. 4609
Public Input Summary
Exhibit 5
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Veterans Memorial Park Public Art
Public Input Summary
August 2023
Introduction
Veterans Memorial Park is set to become the city’s largest park once completed and a dedicated place to
recognize and honor the na�on’s veterans, the first such loca�on in Carlsbad. As part of the
development of this new park, a separate permanent public art piece will be installed at the highest
point of the park on the upper plateau, following the city’s Art in Public Places guidelines. As a site-
specific piece, the public art will serve as a truly special piece to honor those who have served our
country.
To help inform the selec�on of the ar�st who will create the public art piece, the city gathered input
from local veterans, ac�ve duty military and fan in July and August 2023 to gain a deep understanding of
the experience veterans would like to create through the artwork at this loca�on, so the art that is
created becomes a source of pride for veterans and the en�re community.
How input was gathered
City staff gathered input through several focus groups and mee�ngs with veterans in North County San
Diego, along with an online survey:
Online survey
July 17 – Aug. 22, 2023 13 par�cipants
Focus groups
Feedback was gathered through three focus groups (two virtual and one in-person).
• July 20, 2023, at 1 p.m. – virtual focus group held via zoom with City of Carlsbad
employees who are veterans, ac�ve military or family members of those who served
(10 atendees)
• Aug. 16, 2023, at 11 a.m. – virtual focus group held via Zoom (3 atendees)
• Aug. 16, 2023, at 6 p.m. – in-person focus group at Veterans Associa�on of North County
(5 atendees)
Veterans group mee�ngs
City staff atended two mee�ngs with the following veterans groups to gather feedback:
• July 20, 2023, at 6 p.m. - Marine Corp League Detachment 21 (9 atendees)
• Aug. 18, 2023, at 8 a.m. - Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Commitee
(11 atendees)
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How the opportuni�es were promoted
Staff conducted direct outreach to veteran and military groups in North County San Diego to promote
the opportuni�es to provide input for the Veterans Memorial Park public art element. This outreach was
conducted via email and phone calls. In addi�on, staff conducted email outreach to city staff to offer
opportuni�es to provide input as well.
About this input
The input was not gathered through a scien�fic survey or method. Instead, the input reflects the
opinions of those who were aware of the opportunity and had the ability to par�cipate. It should be
considered with a similar weight as emails sent to the City Council or public comment at a City Council
mee�ng.
What we asked
Staff used open ended ques�ons to engage par�cipants in conversa�ons, reflect on prior experiences
visi�ng memorials and public art in the country and share their expecta�ons when visi�ng a veterans
memorial. Ques�ons included:
• How would you honor past and future military service members through public art at the upper
plateau of Veterans Memorial Park?
• What type of public art places give you a sense of renewal and inspira�on? Are there places or
works of art that you’ve visited that evoked a sense of remembrance and pride?
Key themes summary
Below is a list of key themes that emerged at each focus group.
General themes:
- Tell a story
- Recognize all branches of the military
- Portray veterans from all ages and backgrounds, including women and diversity
- Include youth and future ac�ve military that will become veterans
- Acknowledge families of veterans who also make a sacrifice
- Reflec�ve
- Interac�ve
- Embraces local nature
- Unique to and reflec�on of Carlsbad
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All public art public input results
For further reference, all public input compiled specifically for the public art component of Veterans
Memorial Park is embedded below. The input is segmented by group and survey results.
Aug. 18, 2023 at 8 a.m.
Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Commitee mee�ng
Key themes:
- Accessibility
- Golden hour
- Include people with noncombatant jobs: nurses, doctors, etc.
- Ac�ve and re�red vets need to see themselves
- All wars
- All branches recognized
Aug. 16, 2023, at 6 p.m.
In-person focus group held at Veterans Associa�on of North County
Key themes:
- Interac�ve
- Dynamic, textures, colors
- Visually appealing
- Peaceful views and environment
- All branches represented
- Highlight the local aspect
- Naming opportuni�es, a place to perpetuate the memory, like bricks
- Highlight their humanity, their struggle once they return
- Show veterans in rela�on to their families, the places they call home
- A place for reflec�on – calming water element
- A place for healing
Aug. 16, 2023, at 11 a.m.
Virtual focus group mee�ng via Zoom
Key themes:
- Through art, inspire young people to join the military.
- A piece that inspires honor and respect
- Use the natural environment to heal, renew
- Bold
- Highlight diverse cultures, backgrounds, cultural groups
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- Add an educa�on center or learning elements
- Include young voices
- Memorialize past warriors and inspire future genera�ons to feel like they belong
- Diversity
- Culturally diverse, colorful, bold
- Remembrance
- Pride
- Capture names
- Serene
July 20, 2023, at 6 p.m.
Marine Corp League Detachment 21 mee�ng
Key themes:
- Serenity
- Incorporate dependents, families
- Golden hour is not talked about enough
- Make the opening of the art on a meaningful day
- Focus in all branches
- Show the pain
- Simple but powerful
- It would be good if the ar�st was a vet. They connect with their own experience.
- Visually show how many people have died (boots, bricks)
- Interac�ve
- Educa�onal
- History
- Evolu�on of military
- The reason why we volunteer
July 20, 2023, at 1 p.m.
Virtual internal focus group with city staff via Zoom
Key themes:
- Create a calming experience
- A place for reflec�on
- Highlight Carlsbad’s unique beauty: flower fields, ocean view
- Show diversity of ages, backgrounds, ethnici�es, gender
- Memorialize the people who sacrificed
- A marine voice
- Represent all the branches
- A place to connect with nature
- A place for special experiences, such as commissions or re�rements
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- A statue made with Legos
- A place where we could reflect about Carlsbad’s history
- Tell the story of Carlsbad veterans
- A place that can be con�nuously updated/actualized
- A place that is beau�ful and people want to go back to
- Figura�ve art
- A place where people can exhibit their art, in partnership with schools, etc.
- A public art piece that includes movement and change
Online survey, through 08/22/2023
Key themes:
- Interac�ve
- Culturally diverse
- Water feature
- A place for reflec�on
- Use official seal of each branch of service
- Include all branches
- Peace, serenity, reflec�on
- Paying tribute to all wars and military advancements, women, technology
- Different missions, singularity of purpose
- Include history for a learning opportunity about American history and the involvement of
veterans in preserving the freedoms we enjoy today
- Open space that is not intrusive
- Shaded sea�ng area
- A dynamic space that encourages movement between the components for a full experience
- Realis�c
- Evokes the senses
- Males, females, family members
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Public Input Results
Veterans Memorial Park Public Art
Table of contents
I. Military Affairs Commitee focus group, Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, 08/18/2023
II. Veterans Associa�on of North County focus group, 08/16/2023
III. Virtual mul�-branch focus group, 08/16/2023
IV. Marine Corp League Detachment 21 focus group, 07/20 /2023
V. City staff internal focus group, 07/20/2023
VI. Online survey, through 08/22/2023
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I. Military Affairs Commitee focus group, Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, 08/18/2023
Date 08/18/23
Group name
Military Affairs Committee, Carlsbad Chamber
of Commerce
Number of participants total 11
Comments/ques�ons during the presenta�on:
POW flag at the memorial site flag pole
How would you honor past and future military service members through public art at the upper
plateau of Veterans Memorial Park?
Would the garden be accessible?
Aircra�, from someone nose
How will the golden hour be addressed?
They show a movie, helicopter, from Vietnam, soldiers wai�ng to hear from them.
Vietnam, they par�cipated in Saigon, they had different routes coming in, the embassy, each �me they
would see the power line ge�ng closer and closer.
Is there a main focus, like marine corps, or avia�on component, Iraq, and Afghanistan, or it will cover all
of the different wars?
Marines and sailors probably will be more prominent in the display, being closer to Carlsbad, besides
airmen, etc.
When you say art, is it one piece or several pieces?
Helicopters are the mode most wounded soldiers get medical aten�on. That’s why it is so important to
men�on/highlight the golden hour.
It would be nice to have something that recognizes the work of nurses, these are all veterans, for
everyone. You have a whole number of people, combat, doctors, nurses, they need to relate somehow to
the art regardless of how they served.
People will be coming to see the memorial from the heart. It is not just a park.
Ac�ve duty and re�red vets need to see themselves.
You have to highlight all services working together. You couldn’t do it without everybody’s work.
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Will there be mul�ple trails, with mul�ple stories, and then maybe coming at the main art piece? Each
trail can be a branch or work in the military, but we all work together to get to the same place.
Army/Navy Academy has a memorial, has it been discussed to move this piece into the park?
What else you would like for us to consider regarding the public art for Veterans Memorial Park?
Clarified that the park isn’t Vietnam focused.
Are there any places for statues that people could pay for?
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II. Veterans Associa�on of North County focus group, 08/16/2023
Date 08/16/23
Group name
Veterans Association of North County
Number of participants total 5
How would you honor past and future military service members through public art at the
upper plateau of Veterans Memorial Park?
Visually appealing, interac�ve. Airforce monument, spires, in DC comes to mind. Know instantly what
branch is represented.
Like the local aspect, someone from the region, history, those who died in Carlsbad as a focus. Tie to
veterans of the future. Wife from Australia, small towns lots of representa�on of local service people,
family oriented. Simple statue, not too large. Looking in admira�on as a child, naming of the local
veterans.
The mural in Vista, no one knows what it is, just colors like pinks, etc. Created by Pinamon�, statue of
man killed in Vietnam reading leters, has names of those killed in ac�on. Felt moved.
Interac�on, texture and color is grounding for veterans. Inclusion of shadows, shades, shows skin tones,
male and female, texture, grain. Example of buterflies exhibit using texture
What type of public art places give you a sense of renewal and inspira�on? Are there places or works
of art that you’ve visited that evoked a sense of remembrance and pride?
Rosecrans Cemetery, maximize contours of the surrounding hills. Peaceful views
Landscape important. Con�nue, perpetuate the memory. Bricks and served, great loca�on at the upper
plateau with the landscaping, allows for the season and changes.
Book, “Heroes Lived Here”, Amy Forsythe, wrote about all the memorials, Camp Pendleton
Gary, shared from a friend: I picture a combat veteran, in full gear with helmet, holding hands with wife
and children, “he did the �me, now we must help him realign”.
Takes a courage of a warrior to ask for help. One percent of the na�on has served in combat. No
grotesque.
Marine Corp Museum, Legacy Walk, sponsor bricks of people who served
No par�cular place that I’ve seen as art in open, every works of art evokes a different feeling
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What else you would like for us to consider regarding the public art for Veterans Memorial Park?
Personal experience, have the ar�st be sensi�ve to people’s feelings, not offend anyone as they did in
Seatle, upside down disassembled fighter jet, very offensive. All branches to be represented.
Expand to family members, writer groups, children’s writers group, veterans, dependents, scholarships
Future and present, healing your inner child, military child, looking up to itself, reflec�on as he looks
back to him. Calming water element, fountain.
Dignify the art through veterans. Loves the veterans involved in San Diego County, 1/3 of the community
are veterans. Include veterans in the ecosystem, their family.
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III. Virtual mul�-branch focus group, 08/16/2023
Date 08/16/23
Group name
Virtual – multi-branch focus group
Number of participants total 3
How would you honor past and future military service members through public art at the upper
plateau of Veterans Memorial Park?
To inspire future children to join the military and keep them in. Honor where they came from and how
they can bring it back. Honor & respect.
From chat bar: “It would be triumphant to overcome the term diversity and embrace who America is.”
Hope for a strong number of women who served before WW1, in & out of military, to be recognized.
Don’t meld women into 1 group. Group diverse cultures, backgrounds, reflect cultural groups perhaps in
a sculpture. Educa�on center or learning elements at the park.
Diversity aspect. San Diego County region. Typical young, white male are thought of, does not represent
the popula�on moving forward. Represent to show young people how and inspire them. Younger
genera�on engaged.
At Palomar College 6-years-ago; Culturals, past. They took an old, ugly, huge building and incorporated
parts of cultures, making it big bold, and colorful.
What type of public art places give you a sense of renewal and inspira�on?
Are there places or works of art that you’ve visited that evoked a sense of remembrance and pride?
Quan�co Museum, Virginia. Incredible. Takes you back in the moment, remember. Also, just going out in
nature has beau�ful healing. Incorporate the use of nature, not art but renewal.
Young voices are important, pull them in. Have classes, group mee�ngs, focus groups there. Diversity
doesn’t embrace concept. Star Trek example, lots of imagina�on. Peers should be involved in Carlsbad.
Loves going to the Vietnam Memorial Wall. Feels emo�onal, emo�onal experience, gives renewed sense
of doing the right thing. Remembrance, pride. No connec�on to those people but feeling a connec�on
to them. Faces a huge open space but feels serene. Elevated, used the hill in the design. In track with the
environment. Simple ligh�ng empowers, simple to captures names. Serene. Nature around.
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What else you would like for us to consider regarding the public art for Veterans Memorial Park?
Be bold. Keep out of the box. Poli�cs aside. Serve the people. Remind that they are serving people, not
government. Young people see, we need to protect our neighbors.
When we started this discussion, the Vietnam Memorial Wall (Washington DC) was men�oned, people
have fought for sense of hope, freedom and peace. The ar�st will be challenged and struggle to
memorialize and inspire future genera�ons to feel like they belong, be a part of here. We have to get out
of the mindset that a ‘vet is a vet’, we are all a people. Granddaughter says to me, thank you for your
service. This tells me that she thinks I have done something posi�ve. Honor those serving.
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IV. Marine Corp League Detachment 21 focus group, 07/20 /2023
Date July 20, 2023
Group name Marine Corps League Detachment 21 at
Veterans Association of North County
Number of participants total 9
Have you seen veterans public art that really caught your aten�on? What’s not there that you’d like to
see memorialized?
Very simple memorial, the one in Arizona, all pillars lined up, it’s at 11 a.m. it shines through all the
pillars and shows the seal on the floor. Anything on DC, Korean, Vietnam,
Pearl Harbor, it’s only a bridge but very impac�ul.
Mt. Soledad before the plaques, it was very serene. I’m not too keen on the plaques they place there
right now.
WWII museum in New Orleans, bricks memorializing veterans start from the street. They keep making
more room to add more bricks. It was a nice way to dedicate something to their rela�ves who have
sacrificed.
Talking about the Marine Corps base, the fi�h marine regiment, different set ups for young marines who
have died in combat. Someone asks if the city has looked for any sponsors. Vet suggested Tony Morso,
who owned Camp Pendleton, he owned Capistrano all the way down to Oceanside. He is a big provider
for the historical society, also the guy who founded Fedex was a marine captain, there is a lot on that
base that can give you inspira�on. We just put up a statue of Cpt. Pendleton, 200,000 bronze statue.
I’m a Vietnam vet, we weren’t well liked when we came back, we have to force people to like us again.
We don’t memorialize Vietnam guys at all. Everyone always volunteered for a reason, and just with other
wars, they did it for a reason and we are missing all that. We put something nice in the art but why are
we doing it? What’s the reason for it? Talk about the people who volunteered, why they did it. Men and
women who have fallen in combat, it was for a reason. They loved their country. I was in college and I
said I’m going to Vietnam. Talega, where we had the Vietnamese refugees, the big thing is that there are
a lot of things to see. Talk to the communica�ons official on base to enter the base and have a tour of
those memorials.
Oklahoma Bombing Memorial, the chairs, when you walk through it there is a story. If Jose was going to
develop a memorial, it would be with some type of history over �me like old story military, how we’ve
evolved as the military.
MCRD museum – should visit. There is a hand towards Talega and talks about the refugees, you sit in it
and you read it, very powerful.
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Marine and Army guy, I did both. I’ve seen Ft. Worth TX and I’ve seen the memorials for both branches
of service, the ar�st, it would be more meaningful if the ar�st was a veteran. It is great to see somebody
pouring their hearts in it. A police officer rescued a flag from 9/11. I was in NJ, was asked to open the flag
at a ceremony, US Open, was going to. They gave it to me in a box. Box was made out of rubble from
9/11, I was chained to the box, it was televised, someone painted that image on the side of the building.
But it was some painter, no real connec�on to it. It would be wonderful to have someone who really is
going to understand, put their hearts down into the art. There was this other memorial. Every road, from
every gate, there was a set of boots signifying all people who have died. There are so many boots, no
names, just a huge numbers. That means more. It is a visual. An understanding. To visually see a million
boots, it hits you more than to say the number. Less is more but it gives the person an understanding of
how many people died. Focusing on all branches. Seals museum, they show you through the pain they
go through. There is nothing to really signify the gut-wrenching pain, when I saw the boots it was painful.
Somehow incorporate dependents. Because the families suffered.
Agree. When I was in Iraq my family didn’t know if I was coming back. They suffered too.
I would like to see talk of the golden hour. Not a lot of people know about this but it is when a marine is
wounded, if he gets medical aten�on in the first hour a�er ge�ng hurt they will likely survive. In
Vietnam, people looked at the sky, that was the only help they could expect.
For the loca�on and the installa�on, think about veterans who can’t walk, climb stairs. Consider the
handicapped. The golden hour is something that is not talked about enough.
Someone talks about how now they do bike tours and boat rides in Vietnam, when there is s�ll so much
ordnance and mines, s�ll buried in many places.
If you are going to unveil the art or open the park, choose April 30, 2025, anniversary of the end of the
Vietnam war.
Visit the Vietnamese memorial on base at that �me.
Something that represents veterans in their totality. Veterans since the year 1775, all the way to now.
Most veterans are seniors. Something that represents veterans in all their service that made this country
a great country.
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V. City staff internal focus group, 07/20/2023
Date July 20, 2023
Group name Internal focus group with city staff
Number of participants total 10
What comes to mind as someone who has served? When you think about visi�ng a public park site?
What would you like to have, or experience?
Beau�ful view, with the ocean and all, how can we enhance it to be more medita�ve, a pond, a fountain.
Visi�ng son in San Jose, they had a great water fountain, acres of flowers, very calming experience. One
of the themes is Carlsbad, why don’t we add some flowers to show want Carlsbad represents? Sit down
and reflect. I would like that.
For me, hit me on the head, I visualize an open area and the flower fields, different varie�es of flowers
you can walk through, some type of trail, all different types of colors, something serene and comfortable.
I really, when I think about my �me, is so much community and we served as young adults and have such
diversity of people, even people here right now, we come from different places, we served together,
there is so much in common between us. I want to see everyone represented. Every �me people
assumed my husband is the one who had served, not me as a female, I think I’d like to see that diversity
represented.
Maybe I was in Chula Vista veterans area, part of the military is the sacrifice and for some the ul�mate
sacrifice. They had the names of people who were from the city, from Chula Vista so many who made
the ul�mate sacrifice. It would be great to have that list as part of the memorial to see the names who
served from Carlsbad.
I think we need some marine voice. I love history, love military history, serendipity art, in Solana Beach
one of the ocean walls has a dedica�on to the military, so well done, the anchor memorial somewhere
but in the beach park the beach wall there are connec�ons, there is a city in OC, a litle street sign,
direc�ons to Marine Corp history, etc. a litle plaque to honor all the veterans, that’s it, this is a big park
with a larger theme, litle things serendipitous, I like the flowers too.
Along the lines of represen�ng the different branches, my wife and I walk a lot. I saw it in Encinitas, and I
also saw different statutes, something represen�ng each branch, sailor, marine, in bronze, a
conglomerate of those branches somewhere it would be nice if we could add. Might not be feasible with
the money available.
I was thinking something at nigh�me that is lit up that shows the three branches, when you drive and
you see something on the hillside, and I also like the historical approach, I also enjoy seeing the history
of how these branches have come to be and what they have done.
I see that in the rendi�on there is a flag pole, a representa�on of the flag, that is huge, we are serving
the whole na�on, regardless of where we are around the world. I think it needs to be something special.
I like other people’s sugges�ons.
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Following up on that, absolutely. The flag made me think many years ago, there was a lawsuit because of
the flag, I would hate to see something like that happening to Carlsbad, how do we get past that? We
have people who served 9, 20, 25 years, how do we sell litle plaques, raise more money to put money
into the park.
There was clarifica�on that fundraising was possible.
Regarding diversity, to find a way to show how branches are connected, the coast guard is at the core to
which the navy wraps around, I don’t think people know about this, maybe 1%, so I think it would be an
educa�onal piece showing how they support each other in �mes of war.
I wanted to go back to the flag and representa�on of each branch and a flag, maybe there is a way to
show coast guard, marine, navy, those should be represented somehow.
I wanted to share that in addi�on to the coast guard, now we have the star force, and include them as
well, Edward was talking about this idea, fundraising. Are talking about that later? Can we talk about that
now? If you have any P&R fundraising opportuni�es maybe we can share the informa�on.
What types of places have you been to that gives you reflec�on, inspira�on and what are the
elements of those places, a sense of place?
I grew up in the N. East, serenity, the landscape, I love the forest, the mountains, I connect with nature
most. Natural, habitats, connec�ng to what’s here and what has been here before the Spanish were
here. Love the flowers, love the trees.
The same thing, a lot of the answers touched on that, the water, the fountain, I was sta�oned at the
Pentagon and all the monuments, Vietnam, etc. there is that serenity because there is an opportunity to
reflect, to be with nature, enjoy the �me. It’s going to be used for ceremonies for someone who wishes
to re�re, maybe some honor or recogni�on, something along those lines, maybe consider it, not like
everyone who is coming to reflect, but also for how beau�ful it would look for a litle P&A for a moment
in �me, enlis�ng, or ge�ng their commission or re�ring.
How do you think this public art could reflect the iden�ty of the City of Carlsbad?
Paul men�oned the statues, maybe Legoland can make them in Legos, more brainstorming. At least the
pavers.
History, we know there are other people before us. Any thoughts about reflec�ng our history?
We have the names of the Kellys, people who have street names, Capitan Marron, Pio Pico, that might
�e in that �me in history.
Tell Carlsbad’s veterans stories. I visited a veterans memorial plaza in Vista, in Old Vista. There is a part of
the plaza that combines water feature, memorial wall, bronze statues, and uses them in this context,
they use leters of Vista residents that were sent home while people were sta�oned, the leters were
transcribed into the pavement. You can read the service members’ leters writen back to their families.
What Vista residents were experiencing, how they were responding.
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@ Legos, this park is not only for adults, but for families and children and to represent Carlsbad maybe
add a Lego vibe to it, could be a playground made out to look like Legos.
What else would you like us to consider as we look for an ar�st?
Being a forever place, knowing that there will be more veterans, something to keep it actualized, �me-
proofing it, plaques, fundraising.
Something with tons of bronze statues, a place over the top.
Some public art works in SD are dedicated to the US navy or other military, and sadly the larger, more
conspicuous pieces are defaced. I try to think the monument aspect of it, from the maintenance point of
view, the more monumental the piece the more people mess with it.
I don’t want, when folks are thinking about vets, they think the barb wires, back in the old days, and that
can get very heavy, I went to the WWI museum in KC, and it got heavy, great history, as a vet but all the
guns and the barb wire, that just takes away from what we are trying to accomplish with this piece.
I don’t want to see fences, sec�oning property, anything that encloses the property has to be appealing.
Are you doing any kind of look out point in the hill? Telescopes or viewpoints?
We would suggest that to the ar�sts, we go with the ar�sts idea, with people’s ideas to create the art.
I live at double-peak, there is a view point, they have pinned on the ground what everything is.
Not having a heaviness about it. I want to go someplace where I feel good, and people want to go back
to. So it is a nice experience. I like statues. I can walk away with an emo�on vs. so subtle that I have to
read an en�re wall, and those are nice too but they don’t do as much for me as a reflec�on for people.
It’s for community members.
I like figura�ve art, it doesn’t have to be so literal. There is a Marine memorial which consists of an ocean
wave with seagulls to commemorate those who died at sea, it’s a coastal town, more conceptual.
How do we bring the schools, create some art, some awards, something for kids to hang art and scroll
through, people would come to see what the kids did.
I wouldn’t want a type of memorial that had an ulterior mo�ve or agenda, war sucks but those who try
to pass a message along those lines, I have an issue with those.
In Oceanside, they put pain�ngs all over, with prices, then post the artwork somewhere.
I thought of one, I really like those that you see it from one angle and you see something and then you
change posi�on and you see something so different, a tribute to veterans but not just one view, but
movement and change.
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Veterans Memorial Park Public Art
Public Input Summary
July 2025
Introduction
Veterans Memorial Park is set to become the city’s largest park once completed and a
dedicated place to recognize and honor the nation’s veterans, the first such location in
Carlsbad. As part of the development of this new park, a public art piece will be installed at the
highest point of the park on the upper plateau, following the city’s Art in Public Places Program.
As a site-specific piece, the public art will serve as a truly special piece to honor those who have
served our country. Carlsbad Municipal Code 2.18.110 requires that a minimum of 1% of the
cost of certain construction projects be dedicated to public art.
Community engagement approach
To ensure the public art at Veterans Memorial Park reflects the values, stories and lived
experiences of those who have served, the city developed a three-phase community
engagement approach focused on listening to veterans, active-duty military, their families and
the broader Carlsbad community.
Phase 1: Understanding community values July – August 2023
The city conducted a series of focus groups, online surveys and meetings with local
veterans organizations in summer 2023 to gather ideas about what the public art should
represent. Veterans, active-duty service members and their families shared personal
reflections on how the memorial could honor past, present and future military service.
They emphasized creating a design that evokes pride, remembrance, healing and
connection to Carlsbad’s natural setting. Key themes included:
• Honoring military service
• Telling a meaningful story
• Encouraging reflection and respect
• Reflecting the unique character and values of the Carlsbad community
• Inviting engagement
• Fitting into the park’s natural setting
Artist selection process
To recruit a professional artist or artist team for this project, the city released a national
Call for Artist Qualifications in late summer 2023. The call closed in the fall, with 35
eligible submissions received from across the country.
To guide the selection process, the Cultural Arts Division formed a Public Art Advisory
Subcommittee in alignment with the city’s Art in Public Places Program. The
subcommittee first met in spring 2024 to review and evaluate all submissions,
narrowing the field to four finalists. In early summer, the finalists were invited to give
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presentations and participate in interviews focused on their qualifications, experience
and alignment with the project’s goals. Following that process, the subcommittee
selected Gordon Huether Studio to design the public art for Veterans Memorial Park.
Phase 2: Feedback on preliminary design concepts April – June 2025
After Gordon Huether Studio was selected to
design the artwork, the artist developed three
preliminary concepts informed by input from Phase
1.
In spring 2025, these concepts were shared with
the public through an online survey and additional
meetings with veterans groups to gather feedback that would help inform the final
design. This report summarizes the input received during Phase 2 engagement.
Phase 3: Presentation of final design August – September 2025
The artist will present a refined design that incorporates community input received to
date. This final design will be made available for public review ahead of scheduled
meetings of the Arts Commission and City Council. While the design will not undergo
further revisions at this stage, community members will have the opportunity to view
the proposal and provide comments for consideration as part of the approval process,
which includes a recommendation by the Arts Commission and final approval by the City
Council.
This report summarizes the
input received during Phase 2
engagement.
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Level of engagement
The International Association of Public Participation’s spectrum of public participation
illustrates a variety of approaches to involving the public in decision making. The Veterans
Memorial Park public art input process falls between “consult” and “involve.”
How to consider the input
The input in this report is qualitative in nature and was obtained through a convenience
sample. This means the city focused on gaining an in-depth understanding of community
member perspectives, and the results cannot be
generalized to the entire population of the city
within a defined margin of error.
That’s why the input in this report should be
considered with a similar weight as other forms of
feedback that have always been part of the city’s
decision-making process, such as comments made
at City Council meetings or emails sent to the city expressing an opinion.
The input in this report should be
considered with a similar weight as
comments made at a City Council
meeting or those sent by email.
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How input was gathered
City staff gathered input on three proposed design concepts through an online survey and
meetings with veterans in North County San Diego:
Online survey
April 24 to June 4, 2025
589 participants
VETART, Veterans Art Project
June 13, 2025, 6 p.m.
40 participants
Marine Corps League, Camp J H
Pendleton, Detachment 21
June 19, 2025, 6 p.m.
11 participants
Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Committee
June 20, 2025, 8 a.m.
12 participants
How the opportunities were promoted
Staff conducted direct outreach to veteran and military
groups in North County San Diego to promote
opportunities to provide input on the design concepts
for Veterans Memorial Park public art. This outreach
was conducted via email and phone calls.
The online survey was promoted through the
following city communication channels:
• News release
• Facebook
• Instagram
• X
• Nextdoor
• YouTube
• City Manager’s Update – sent April 24
• Emails to interested stakeholders –
sent April 25 and May 28
• Project webpage
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Overall themes
The following section summarizes overall themes that emerged across all open-ended feedback
from the survey and veterans group meetings. While these points highlight the most common
ideas and concerns, readers are encouraged to review verbatim responses to each survey
question later in this report to get a better understanding of the feedback provided. Both the
summary and the full set of comments will be considered when developing the refined design
for the Veterans Memorial Park public art.
Desire for clear military symbolism
Across all three designs, respondents consistently asked for clearer references to military
service. Many emphasized that the artwork should feel immediately recognizable as a veteran’s
memorial without needing a lengthy explanation.
Interest in creating a space for reflection
People responded positively to features that invited quiet contemplation, especially benches
and framed views. The most appreciated designs offered a sense of emotional connection and
peace.
Concerns about safety and durability
Some comments noted that some designs could be misused or pose safety risks, especially for
children. Materials and structural choices were also questioned for longevity and maintenance.
Appreciation for designs that fit into the natural setting
Designs that felt organic or mirrored the surrounding landscape were generally favored. Some
felt more industrial or modern styles clashed with the park’s natural atmosphere.
Suggestions to enhance storytelling
Many respondents recommended adding contextual elements such as plaques, engraved
names or symbols representing the different military service branches to help deepen the
public's understanding of the artwork's meaning.
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Themes by design concept
When asked how well each design reflected themes identified during earlier phases of public
input, on a scale of 1 (strongly disagree) to 5 (strongly agree). The Ring emerged as the top-
rated design, receiving the highest ratings across key categories like reflection, connection to
the setting and community values. Open-ended comments showed a similar pattern, with The
Ring generating the most positive and neutral feedback, often described as peaceful and
contemplative. Overall, The Ring was the most preferred concept, followed by The Arch, while
Spires generated more mixed feedback.
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The section below summarizes key themes that emerged in open-ended feedback for each
design option.
Concept A – The Arch
Positive themes
• Viewed as graceful and sculptural; some felt it suggested shelter or protection
• Design allowed for movement through the piece, creating a sense of openness
• A few noted it mirrored Carlsbad’s hills or natural forms
Concerns and suggestions
• Did not clearly convey a connection to veterans or military service
• Concern it could be misused as a climbing structure or appear like playground
equipment
• Some found the design too modern and expressed concerns that it would not blend well
with the surrounding natural environment
• Does not feel unique to Carlsbad
• Many found the design too abstract or ambiguous without supporting context
• Suggestions included adding plaques, military emblems or seating to support reflection
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Concept B – The Ring
Positive themes
• Widely described as peaceful, reflective and contemplative
• The circular form evoked unity, eternity and a sense of community
• Many appreciated the built-in bench for resting and taking in the view
Concerns and suggestions
• Some felt the artwork needed clearer military symbolism or storytelling
• A few noted that having only one primary vantage point (bench) limited group
interaction
• Suggested enhancements included additional seating, interpretive signage and
alignment with the sunset
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Concept C – Spires
Positive themes
• Strongest perceived connection to military service through vertical forms and symbolic
references
• Seen as the most monument-like of the three designs
• Some appreciated the contrast and visual prominence
Concerns and suggestions
• Reactions to materials were mixed, with some expressing concern about durability or
harshness of glass
• Several felt it was too stark, cold or didn’t blend with the natural park setting
• Suggestions included incorporating softer elements, natural colors or more narrative
detail
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Appendix
Online survey results and verbatim responses
Veterans-focused group presentation meeting notes
VETART – Veterans Art Project, June 13
Marine Corps League, Camp J H Pendleton, Detachment 21, June 19
Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Committee meeting, June 20
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Online survey results
1. How familiar are you with the Veterans Memorial Park public art project?
Answered: 538 Skipped: 51
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Concept A – The Arch
2. To what extent do you agree that this concept reflects each of the following
themes identified by the community?
Answered: 546 Skipped: 43
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3. What do you like about this design, and what would you change?
Answered: 321 Skipped: 268
This would be the best one if they can find a way to tie in military service within the
structure.
I like every thing about the design. Maybe add a sitting bench where veterans or anyone can
sit and reflect.
The shape matches the natural ecosystem. I would add two more legs so that there are a
total of six legs, each one representing each of the branches of the military.
I like: the shelter aspect is effective, and many people can be around and engaged with this
piece together, equally. I wouldn't change anything. Although, I'm sorry to say, I can imagine
someone climbing this.
Integration into setting and possibility of engagement (yet also wonder about inappropriate
engagement, ie climbing). Does not invite curiosity or connection to its purpose or
celebration of veteran contributions.
Not much. The design reminds me of the image of a large animal crossing the horizon.
place American flag within the structure
open, clean lines
Don't Like
reminds me of a plastic fidget piece that flexs and pops up. could encourage viewer to hang
or climb on the art
I would incorporate all the emblems of all the services somehow. Whatever is picked,
consider a bunch of teenagers doing something stupid on it. Keep it safe.
I think that people seeing this design without knowing its backstory would not think it was
related to military service and would assume it was just a random sculpture.
Not natural looking.
I like the meaning behind the design, 2nd choice.
I like it, but it the structure image does not suggest anything about the military - would be
dependent on narrative.
There is no Shelter that these "arms" of the services are protecting- needs a half circle orb
with a bench winthin to represent "home or the homeland"
My choice would be a low-rise, low-key type of design. Of the 3 options, the Arch seems to be
the least intrusive.
I don't like anything about it.
I like that it leaves the views open. As a military family, it doesn’t speak military/veteran to
me.
To me it’s just an ugly waste of money
Overall, I like the sculpture and do think in general is a quality sculpture for a park. Just not
sure it would be my top choice for Veterans Memorial park.
Kind of ok. But it dies nut mean anything. Ithef than a canopy.
Don't like it.
To me this design says little about honoring Veterans.
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Access to the top, this sculpture will be climbed on and abused.
Simple design, not very interesting, but at least seems to be less intrusive on the landscape
and least likely to cause harm to wildlife.
I like it, however, I like Gordon's infinity loop design better. I think that piece conveys the idea
of our remembrances of service continuing forever.
I very much like the idea of the arch and that as a community we can pass through it.
While the design is interesting--a sort of abstract downward facing dog figure--I believe it will
be an attractive nuisance for skateboarders and ebikers.
I like it but it doesn’t seem as contemplative as The Ring.
It’s ok, but I’m not sure people will take ‘protection’ and ‘military’ from this. I think it more
looks like Gumby stretching.
Doesn't connect to military
Really nothing
Terrible concept. As a Veteran, there is no connection to this piece of art. This arch like bridge
is too contemporary.
Very unique shape. Great interactivity-walking under and around it. Scylptural in all
directions. Open
Uninspiring and not aesthetically pleasing
Seems too generic
I dont like it as it looks like a cover at a bus stop
Simple and relaxing to look at.
Looks good and adds some minimal shelter
I do not see how any of the three concepts honors the military or tells a meaningful story or
encourages respect.
You have no idea what Veterans feel
IT IS OKAY, BUT NOT MY FAVORITE.TOO MODERN.
I do not like this design. As to engagement, I'd imagine that kids would logically think that it
was a gymkhana element and play on it.
I don't like it and I would eliminate it. As to "what it does and what it inspires" I think it is all
in someones imagination, not in any reality. It doesn't "invite" me to do anything.
Add a place to sit
A memorial plaque
Like: One can easily pass through or stop in the design. I would add a bench or two on the
sides for one to rest and think about the sacrifice our military members make.
+ Walk-through, shape echoes hills- Very generic
Seem like it should be bigger.
Unique enough to create curiosity
Kids will climb and fall off. Set some funds aside for the lawsuits.
It looks oppressive and like someone being forced to bend over. Maybe open up the top
somehow or free up one of the legs/arms
It's not a fit....We need to inspire, recognize courage and sacrifice and service under tryimng
conditions worldwide.
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Too simple. Not attractive.
I would like to see some seating improvised into this design.
simple, elegant
I think people will climb and fall from it. Liability alone is not ok.
Reminds me of someone doing a backbend.
The entire city of Carlsbad has a dysfunctional obsession with interfering with nature . This
entire project is another example of that illness.
The flow & sweeping nature. The feeling of the arching protection provided by our military
service members for the community at large. Lovely. I would add a bench on the outside of
one of the arches for those who do wish to sit & reflect or disabled patrons who might need a
place to rest & reflect.
I would change everything. The designs are too abstract and I don't see any relationship
honor to the military or vets. It may be great for yoga classes, or meditation, but nothing else.
I can't even begin to explain why this is horrible.
Add a bench nearby
I like that you can walk through and under it. Needs a bench nearby so people can sit and
reflect and enjoy the view.
I would the arch to be taller and the openings greater and the legs thicker. sort of a combo of
design one and the circle. Concept A looks fragile like our Democracy, concept B looks strong
like our service men. I think the strength of our servicemen (legs) and the fragility of our
democracy the thinning to the peak of the arch with the pathway as in concept A is a more
inclusive design. Powerful, tall, but not overpowering as concept B.
It's encompassing -- feel like it could wrap around me and give me a hug. I'd make it even
bigger than it is.
Sort of bland not too inspiring
no thank you
I don't really like this design. It looks like a giant spring clip from a watch or a machine.
I just don’t see how this is reflective of military veterans. Will there be a plaque somewhere
describing what this is and for whom?
I like that it's low-key, even though it doesn't speak to me at all nor symbolize much about
veterans. Plus, I'd be concerned that kids would be running, skating, or cycling up and over it.
This design is unique and would be good for this site.
the most engaging option
Like the gracefulness. Dislike the color. Nothing keeps people from climbing it or trying to use
skateboards or bikes on it.
The giant pencils is an instant reject, the other two look derivative of Maya Lin's Vietnam
Memorial, which at least carries the names of the fallen. These do no such thing, they could
represent anything, given the right ad copy (as they are here).
Simplicity here takes away from the intricacies of the stories of military service. Add some
sort of plants growing around it, or some beauty to the barren shape.
I love the natural curves, and love the idea that it represents protection, which is what our
Vets have provided.
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I like the soft curves and the open design, it reflects the rolling hills around it.
My favorate art design but seems random, not very reflective nor military connection. Feels
like it will invite engagement in the wrong ways - looks like a bmx/ebike obstacle
Nice design but I don’t see any aspect of it saying “this makes me think of military service.”
It’s ugly and too tall. If it was a “V” shape looking upwards it would be more inline with a
Veterans Memorial. The color is not reflective of the environment.
This is as if an english teacher told you to use every adjective to describe a door in your
writing except it’s just a plain old door. You’re trying to make something out of nothing.
I like that the arch represents strength, resilience and shelter. It would be nice to have a line
of sight to the ocean through the arch and a place to rest and reflect.
I like that it resembels a body that shelters and defends our land's freedom. I would add a
subtle head sihouette.
I dislike it. It has no bearing or relation to veterans. It is just modern art that looks like a piece
of playground equipment. Lacks verbiage relating to veterans.
i like that visitors can look upwards to sky or thru arched openings- many spaces and would
be viewed in the round- i imagine folks walking all around it. I would swirl the path around
the form in roundabout circular orientation that responds to the artwork and intuitively
prompts one to experience the work and enviro9nment from multiple vantage points. Maybe
no concrete at all- (Henry Moore) grounded to earth- embedded into the landscape. Maybe
play with the current proportions and any potential negative spaces, reductive patterning
impacting the role of light/shadows along skyfacing length.
I would not change anything. I find the design soothing.
Its inviting and welcoming. It is aesthetically pleasing and appreciate the symbolism of lives
changed through service. I would recommend adding a bench either on the sides or in the
middle for reflection. I would also encourage engraving the military branches on it.
I like that is is distinct and soft, making a statement while blending into the surrounding area.
Add more benches for seating and introspection
This is a good design and I like the concept/story, especially the idea of stretching across a
space to connect to veterans history. I also like the idea of strength and how the structure
stretches across the area in a way like it is representative of service members holding
something up (freedom, community, etc). However, I don't feel like it invites reflection and
pause on the sacrifices and history of our service members as much. Potentially more
features that would actively engage the public in pause and reflection: benches, some kind of
artistic addition feature that brings a person in beyond just passing through.
Too abstract. This and all the other concepts are far removed from depicting anything to do
with veterans. Why not something more traditional.
Open and inviting. Add seating into the design for the ability to stop and reflect. Ensure that
the positioning of it takes in the ocean view similar to the ring "prototype"
It will become a favorite photo spot for residents and visitors and a chance for conversation
and reflection.
Don't like it
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All of these designs are not properly honoring Vietnam vets. This is just another "art" project.
I would suggest a memorial that depicts the Hanoi Hilton prison camp, Mekong delta patrol
boats, USAF F-105 jets in flight and the homecoming of the American prisoners after many
years. Otherwise this is just another waste of money by a government body.
It reminds me of a spider so I wouldn't really want to go inside. It seems so stark and modern
without pulling in the history of military service.
At the risk of sounding crass, it looks like a stretched out horizontal Gumby.
Intriguing, nice sweeping symetrical style. Steel gives a cold atmosphere. Evokes playground
equipment theme.
It seems like an invitation to climb.
It blends with the environment
It looks like someone falling down and giving up on life.
from a safety standpoint, skateboarders/bmx bike riders dream...
It simply doesn't feel like Carlsbad Not a fan
This has no historical context nor relationship to veterans. There is no connection to the
values of service members nor the deep trauma that they have endured in their service.
The span needs needs to be more substantial. A larger physical presence.
Accommodates larger # of people. Has a 360 degree view. Is part of the pathway rather than
a destination.
I don't see how this honors the military.
Do not like it
More pleasing to the eye than the other two. Hard to say that any of these do the things you
ask in your survey - really more of what’s most pleasing design.
I do not like this design. No warmth and looks like a paper clip that has been bent.
I like the open concept and the idea that it represents the 4military divisions. It allows light
and space and is not intrusive to the environment.
The arch feels more encompassing than the other designs...it symbolizes a feeling of
protection, almost like someone covering others from harm.
Looks like a person doing a backbend.
I like the size of the sculpture and shape. I am unsure of the color, but I assume it is the
proper material for outdoor art work.
No significance to the structure and the military.
Does not look inviting.
not impressive, might as well put nothing
Although the design is simple, there is nothing suggesting military service within it. This
design will also invite people, esp. kids to climb the arches, like in a playground.
This is just okay, meaning that to me it does not make any sort of statement or evoke any
particular feelings in me. There would have to be some explanatory plaque nearby for
anyone to "get" this piece, which looks more like a child's playground structure than a piece
of art commemorating our military service members.
I like the color
Lukewarm on this concept
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I love the reflection of strength it portrays. It doesn't provide as much opportunity for
reflection.
Doesn't inspire.
It flows well, but I see no indication that this is a veteran's memorial. It has four, rather than
six, 'arms.'
I don’t care for any of it!
I like that it is rounded - no harsh edges.
Least preferred of the three designs
I think this design is prone to abuse by skateboarders.
Simplistic but doesn’t portray as strong of a message as the other designs
while the design is simple and peaceful, there is nothing about it that says military
Looks dinky
This is my favorite
I do not like the arch.
Too big to offer comfort.
This design melds and connects to the terrain.
How does this represent Veterans, doesn't make any sense, a nice tall statue of something
such as the Lone sailor.
Proportions lengthened
Nothing. Would not even try to change. Meaningless as to objective.
Did not like it, looks like a spider
I think people will try to climb it. I don’t think it frames the setting well.
The design chosen should be immediately obvious to the viewer that it represents military
service. An explanation should not be required, although may be helpful to fully appreciate
the meaning.
Looks like an abstract of a giant crawling bug.
Has nothing on the arch in St Louis.
I like the look from above, but I think people (kids/yourh?) will try to climb on it…
It looks like Gumby but does little to respect and honor veterans.
Too tall
Not commanding enough in presence.
I actually think that this looks like something that kids would try to climb. It's not my favorite.
.21--+33+
I like it, but the pictures make it look a bit like a handle to a box. I think I would be better if it
did not make itself stand out as a different color, the same way the best version of the US
military protects us while being stoic without being ostentatious about it. It might work
better as a burnished or mirrored metal-colored or navy-gray piece.
It’s a simple design, but but see bad mannered kids trying to run up it like a bridge
I don’t like it at all. It reminds me of a spider, and I hate spiders.
Excellent looking sructure.
I don’t like anything about it.
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I see the shelter aspect but not the forward motion. It does speak of reliance. Don't like the
color. I like it best of the 3 options.
Should have military figures of some type. This concept could be in any park and no
relationship to veterans.
Ilike the openess of it, I would add more than one, to make more of an impact.
I think the shape is not quite right for the space.
Looks like a giant spider
Love the openness and views. We do not like that it’s a military based. Carlsbad is about the
whole community, arts and creativity, togetherness, and the coastal beauty it entails.
I like that the overall shape is reminiscent of the hilly landscape. I think it would be fun to
walk through. However, I don't feel that the design stands out or is particularly unique,
especially compared to the other two concepts.
Simplicity
Like the shape and design of the sculpture.
Not sure about the orange color of the arch.
I like this design a lot.
I do not like it.
N:A
I like that you can walk through it. I worry about kids climbing it and falling on cement
A lot of veterans probably can't negotiate the hill. A basic criticism
Just looks like a structure to walk under
Fits into the natural view, not very interesting
It’s different
I believe this is the wrong setting for this design.
I like the arch better than the other two.
Kids might try to climb it, fall off and get hurt.
Is there risk kids will be able to climb it?
For opportunities for reflection suggest adding benches
It looks like a jody
Worried kids will climb and fall from it.
I like the sense of protection, but not the associations with Gumby.
It’s middle of the road
The design does not reflect military service or tell a story. I also don’t think it invites
engagement compared to the other two options.
This design to me represents well the idea that all are protected and also the sense of motion
and opportunity to be transformed. But it does not seem to invite pausing to reflect as much
as the Ring does.
Since it's so large, more visitors can engage with the sculpture at one time. I like the idea of
people being able to walk through from one end to the other.
Nothing. It's cold and does not engage the honor due in remembrance.
I am quite negative on this design. I like very little and not sure I can suggest changes that
would moving me into the positive.
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I think this option should have 6 "legs" (one for each branch of the armed forces) and should
be higher - in the concept representation, it looks "stunted" rather than projected power and
strength.
Any public art at a veterans park should include seating for us aging or disabled veterans.
Must be wheelchair friendly as well.
it's good you're seeking input but these designs are just stylistic and cold. you're going down
the same route as "the bars" sculpture at near offshore surf shop decades ago.
Captures respect and solitude, but I favor the Ring
As a Marine veteran this does not reflect the veterans at all and especially the United States
Marines which is the majority in our community.
I do not like the design at all for its intended purpose.
I am disappointed that this valuable piece of land is being changed at all. It's perfect just the
way it is.
The walk-through design is nice. Adding a couple of benches on each side would allow people
to stop, rest and reflect.
Interesting, but not moving.
It’s simple and not offensive looking but it’s very basic and uninteresting.
I doesn’t encourage reflection to me, more just walking through
Simple and modern. Does not evoke veteran connection with out explicit explanation
Cool shape, looks like a bridge
It simply exhudes strength
As a veteran, I find it cold and see no relevance to my service experience . Find some image
that actually has a military feeling.
Looks kind of boring.
This is all tax payer waste of money. I posted on your Facebook post and suggested to leave
as is. This way you have no issue with homeless people and vandalism. Minimal maintenance.
Everyone can enjoy nature and the land. At the end that’s what the vets were fighting for.
Save money, preserve the land.
Maybe if you made it green we could just call it Gumby. Are you trying to bring to mind Agent
Orange from the Vietnam war?
It looks like McDonald’s arches.
I don’t like it at all. It doesn’t fit in the setting.
Don't like it.
I feel like this design will not be respected. Unfortunately it looks more like a structure to play
on.
The 'art' doesn't tie directly to anything and it looks monolithic, profile not fitting the
surroundings.
“Arched form suggests shelter”
Just looks like a weird canopy
I’m pretty neutral about this design but it reminds me of the LAX restaurant from years ago.
Doesn’t say tranquility to me.
I like it but I like others better
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How does this have anything to do with the military or our veterans
It’s huge but I guess that’s OK. Of the 3 designs, I like it the best.
I love the idea but fear people could misuse it and become a climbing gym.
Like - you can walk through it. Change - it looks flimsy so make it sturdier.
Reminds me of LAX - takes away from the focus
I like that it is shaped like one of the park's hills.
Don't understand how the design ties into the story or the symbolism. Looks like Gumby
doing yoga.
Will there be a place to name and honor Carlsbad Veterans who have passed?
Needs more feeling of transition- perhaps with different textures or words on the pavement
Ugly
A tripod is the most balanced - through and three point there is always exactly one plane. The
four are limited in expressing balance…think of rocking desks in school.
I like the simplicity (and the shade as a practical matter). The surrounding area is devoid of
shade but it can be inferred as that the people in the military serve and protect (the shade is
a protection). Changes? Maybe some direct connection on who we are memorializing?
I like it and no change
Just put up a plaque and save our tax dollars. Carlsbad has a terrible track record with public
art installations. Or donate dollars not spent on art to a veterans charity.
The arch reflects our hills, and blends in well, as well as reminding me of strength and victory.
It’s both anchoring & movement
My husband and I like this design best of the three (neither of us are veterans)
I just really do not like this design.
Not much, would not recommend
Add lighting that turns on at night around the arch, but not too bright.
Terrible design. Doesn’t honor our veterans.
For veterans it provides a cover, lets the sunshine in, is a bulls eye to achieve goals, and is
simple.
It allows for more people to enjoy it at the same time.
Can look through the arch from different angles.
Would prefer it to be the color of the sky and ocean.
It flows and curves like an ocean wave.
I like that this design is placed for direct interaction with the public. May be a veteran-
inspired cutout at the top for people to look through and reflect on those we have lost?
Reminds me of an insect. Don't like it.
No room for seating? Can thus be added in? It feels like you come and see it but you don’t
stay -
I like the ability for many people to engage with this art piece at one time and I like the
symbolism of many (4) coming together at the peak as one. The color looks really orange. I
think a more natural color or metal would look best.
It's not as inviting as concept B. No place to sit and reflect or be thoughtful about military
sacrifice and service.
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This is a unique design that allows visitors to walk through the art piece, giving a sense of
"processing". The shape compliments the hillsides in the park. It seems to need something
more though, perhaps some meaningful words or symbols engraved, maybe that the sun
shines through, or that have a light source on them, to better and more intentionally honor
the military, and to invite and encourage engagement and reflection further. When I look at
other works created by this artist, many have specific connections to the theme being
honored, and all three of these designs seem to be missing that. It leaves the artwork open to
other interpretations (which is good for art to do), but the intent is to specifically consider
and honor the military at first glance, right? How do these art pieces direct patrons to
consider the military at all?
Add Seating
Simple and elegant while appearing strong.
It is ugly.
My favorite one. I don't like how thin it is tho. Look at the shayyad monument in teheran
It is open space, but doesn't honor anyone...just meaningless to me. Sorry, it's just too
impersonal.
I think the design is abstract and most people will not intuitively understand it’s significance.
It flows with the coast and is ok, but nothing draws me in.
Very esthetic. Like that you can walk through it.
I like that it appears natural and slowing, kind of like the hillsides around it. It seems a little
plain, and at first glance I would have no idea it had to do with veterans.
This reminds me of this horrible (Art) bars that we put in off Carlsbad Blvd and Off Shore!
This design does not evoke much emotion in terms of reflection.
Compare to the other 2, artistically, this is not unique, nor visually depicting a story nor image
of the purpose
Dislike it
It’s fine but encourages people to keep walking.
Looks like a gardening tool.. horrible sorry artist
It looks a little out of place, doesn't fit with the nature on a natural setting. Too small
perhaps?
Good for photo ops, not sure about the color
I like that it evokes protection, which veterans have sacrificed their own lives to protect and
serve. I also like that the 4 base points represent the 4 main branches of the military.
it looks ugly
Great in the open space. It reminds me of the new wildlife overpasses being created.
It would not necessarily be seen as a memorial but rather an art installation. It would need
instructive markers explaining its presence.
Look inviting to climb...don't see the point.
this design would invite kids to climb the structure and could become a liability for the City
I see children, teens climbing on this to cross. It’s ok, but no special meaning to military
service. Very plain. Lacks esthetics, beauty. Does not inspire.
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It makes me think of the superhero mom in the Incredibles making herself into a bridge. For
some reason that is all I can see...
I don't like the design at all and don't think it fits the objectives mentioned above
I like it. I'd make sure it doesn't become a jungle gym for climbing
There is no connection with the Veteran's or symbols that evoke any sense of service to our
country or community outside the name “Veterans park”. How can there not be a national
flag on site? We seem to have missed the mark in our desire to present art.
The intent of the artist is missing from the design. It also misses the capture of all the Service
Branches.
Nothing- get some more bids.
looks more like a play structure
Like: the sense of it as part of the animal kingdom like us.
Change: longer anchors to the earth to transition between sky and earth
I like the color. But it looks like a play structure and it invites kids to climb it.
It needs a bench to sit and reflect.
You know people will be running up and over the arch.
Add military wording somewhere- whether it’s listing values, branches of service etc.
Don't care for it.
Make it so it can be sat on, climbed, or played on (like the rock sculpture art at Stagecoach
park)
this design doesn't resonate anything meaningful. It's bland.
Not much of interest.
Like in the Ring, if there was a bench to reflect and remember, I think all the art pieces should
include a spot to stop, sit, and reflect. I like the shape.
The Ring symbolizes infinity, and we will forever be grateful to our service members for their
sacrifice.
I’m just not a fan, just looks like something people will walk right through and not stop to
enjoy
Safety is a concern… legs angled to avoid climbing atop structure?
Simplicity is appreciated.
Honestly, not a fan of this one.
Non of these designs meets the criteria. Looks like the this will be another failed art project
like the "bars" that had to be removed at taxpayer expense.
I don’t think any of the designs evoke thoughts of veterans service to country. They are
abstract and could be about anything.
The design is very utilitarian
At first glance, the meaning of this piece is not intuitive and would need a plaque to explain;
however, it is not anticipated many visitors will take the time to read it and therefore this
would be a missed opportunity.
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Generally, there's very little that I like. I embrace all of the the bullets listed above under
"Community Input" but don't feel like this responds to any of it. Nothing here evokes honor
for Military Service, which, given the name for the park, seems to be of utmost importance. It
is an interesting piece if the attempt was simply "Public Art," but I anticipated something
much more than that with the vision, again evoking emotion and reflective of honor for those
who served and continue to serve.
I would put a couple of benches or similar. The design is very gracious but would be better if
it has some function
Doesn’t do anything from a military veteran point of view
Don’t like
I like the living feel of the design, with a sense of an animate object. I think this artwork is
effective as part of the path. My preference would be for the art piece to be off the pathway.
Dynamic open & beautiful
Just ok.
It looks like a hundred other arches I've seen. Not original or contemplative.
Beautiful, elegant, & makes me think of a person offering shelter & protection (as do service
members).
It's unobstructive; fits better in the environment
It's okay. It could be looked at - because of the two legs at either end as a stick figure playfully
leaning over to form a bridge. Lacks the elegance of Arch in St. Louis, Missouri.
Make sure its about the Veterans not about a Modern Art Display.
It seems so ordinary.
Simple and dignified. Its dynamic and strong.
It looks like an adult bending over backwards which is kind of what our veterans did. But I
don’t see how this reflects Carlsbad
It feels like arms of protection, so I really like this design. It might be nice to have something
at the center ceiling of the piece that you can admire laying on the ground, or six dots or lines
in the center that represent the branches of service.
I foresee kids climbing it to sit on top
The design seems to fit the story and it is interesting to look.
Simple, inviting, easy to see around
Nothing
It's fine, but it's not calling to me.
I'd have a few "low-key" benches to invite reflection and enjoyment of the view. I like this
design best because it's least intrusive to the natural environment.
It's the least ugly and intrusive
I don't like this design. I don't think it fits the environment nor does it satisfy any of the
themes.
Nothing!
This is the best design in my opinion, it flows well with the natural landscape and will be most
durable to crowds
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I think it will become a problem with people climbing it to take photos on top, eventually
forcing a fence or some sort of barrier to be put around or on it.
color - pick a color that blends in more with the environment
N/A
it resembles a headless stick figure doing a back bend
It does not inspire much in me. It also looks as though it might make a lovely challenge for
skaters. I do not prefer that it is in line with traffic. That does not encourage a pause for
reflection.
Offers protection from elements, as service men and women offer protection to the people.
Could use some native shrubs/groundcover and native trees to blend in with natural
aesthetic of Carlsbad area. Incorporate bench or wall seating.
Looks dangerous for kids.
Don't care for it
unlikely for kids to climb and get hurt.
This is my favorite
This design is too similar to the one across from the San Diego airport. Carlsbad design should
be unique.
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Concept B – The Ring
4. To what extent do you agree that this concept reflects each of the following
themes identified by the community?
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5. What do you like about this design, and what would you change?
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I like the bench. And this is my favorite design.
I like that the people on the bench get this optimal experience. Everyone else around is not.
It's like there's one view, and you might have to wait for the bench to get your turn. Also, if
people are in mind of a combat situation, I think the berms as drawn could make them feel
like someone is hiding on the other side, rather than feel protected. So, what I would change:
remove the bench and the berms.
Reflection of community/unique view is great. Very serene in rendering, inviting a pause.
Ring shape implies a promise or eternity.
More symmetry. comforting and relaxing. Exudes a relaxing appearance.
pretty design; nice bench for sitting to reflex. Possible to add more benches
Add a low black granite wall to replace the green knolls behind the ring. The wall would be
higher near the front/walkway and lower to the back/behind the ring. The Wall would be
similar in concept to the Vietnam Memorial in DC. I would also show the ring complete at the
bottom representing circle of life, all of the branches of the military, and healing.
seems long term, quiet spot. Photo op. sort of a tube/wave nod to local Carlsbad.
I think a bunch of skateboarders will use it as a ramp.
The framing and bench for contemplation is welcoming and comforting.
I think that people seeing this design without knowing its backstory would not think it was
related to military service and would assume it was just a random sculpture.
It is great for the few people that the bench fits to watch the sunset. However the ring itself
seems too abstract and too large.
This one is my favorite, it’s peaceful and invites reflection.
Nothing to suggest connection to military.
The bench invites participation, pausing to reflect. The ring captures the view (what they
fought to protect) the homeland. It invites one to be a part of it.
It is too big for the setting and does not fit into the park's natural setting at all. It sticks out
like a sore thumb. Please do not select "the Ring."
It's the only one if the three designs I like. The thing I would change is the color.
I think it's the best.
This one is really strong and stood out to both me and my veteran. I recently worked to get
three Carlsbad schools the purple star distinction and truly feel like this one embodied all it
stands for.
peaceful
Start the entire search over. None of these designs are inspiring art.
Like area where you can sit and reflect. Like the meaning of the circle.
Make it a bit less bulky.
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Love the overall design and feel it is contemplative and evokes a reflective quality of quiet
strength. I think it fits with the natural setting better than the other two designs. Not sure if
orange is the final color so am interested to know if that would change. Overall, a good
choice for the park.
simplicity, strong, eternally , nothing needs to be changed
I like the circular shape, an unending shape
The ring - it represents our city. We come full circle all generations together.
Very calming and good for reflection.
Seems like a peaceful place to reflect on Service ands loss
Least likely to be vandalized and does invite reflection.
Sturdy though bulky, at least a place to sit and contemplate. Also less likely to cause harm to
birds and local wildlife.
I like this concept. While it does invite contemplation, I think given the number of individuals
using the park, there might not be adequate seating or space for several individuals to
contemplate.
It is a strong symbol of the circular nature of things, and has a nice solidity to it that speaks of
strength.
I like this one the most and think it is beautiful.
This one I love. The circle represents protection, completion, and draws the ocean forward
into the park. As far as representing the military community, it represents a ‘full circle
moment’ where it shows what people sacrificed for, and in some ways show that we bring
them home, from maybe across the ocean, and bring them with us in our thoughts and
remembrances. Simple, but oh so effective.
add something about carlsbad or military to show how it connects
I think the ring is a positive and inclusive symbol and invites introspection. Its a bit boring but
the best of the three.
I like this piece of art work. Weathering steel demonstrates toughness that the US military
service members must have to serve with honor, courage and commitment. The structure
will weather time and the elements. Perfect for Active Duty, Veterans and their family
members to reflect on accomplishments while serving, remembering those with whom you
served with and honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice. With the ability to have a view
of the Pacific Ocean this allows individuals to bring inner peace. Bravo Zulu! I do recommend
that at the base you have All 6 branches of the service logos imprinted.
Peaceful
Simple and encourages sitting and viewing.
Fits the natural surroundings, simple and elegant design. Much better than the other two
options.
Like how peaceful
I dont like it. What in the world does this design have to do with real world military ?
invites speculation.
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Offers no shelter and not unique at all
I do not see how any of the three concepts honors the military or tells a meaningful story or
encourages respect.
SO BEAUTIFUL! IF THE SUNSET SHINES THROUGH THE CIRCLE! OUR CIRCLE OF HOPE WILL
NOT BE BROKEN!!!!!! NO CHANGES.
Again, I see no relation to any military/veteran's theme. As a contemplative and meditative
sculpture, it's the best of the concepts. It could be in any open space to evoke reflection and
a Buddhist-like sense of peace. It'd be great at Swami's!
It looks very Zen-like and fits the park and the theme of honor and reflection and respect. I
pick this as my number one pick.
Also reminds me of waves
I would change the base so it is not attractive to skateboarders.
It’s perfect the way it is, peaceful and comforting.
Allows for reflection but doesn't allow for entering the feature.
+ Frames views, invites engagement
Seems like such a peaceful place and a perfect window to the landscape beyond.
Waste of money on something most people won’t see. Cancel the project, spend tax dollars
we paid for something more useful like raising police officers’s salaries, eliminate drug
dealers and homeless people off the streets where we live.
I love this design, it will create spectacular views.
Nice. Difficult to mow the grass on the mounds? Perhaps install a different plant.
To me it symbolizes the circle of life, continuity, and security
Same as above
Love this design the most. It seems more serene and contemplative. I like that seating is
available. It has a wonderful view also.
It would be nice if the circle coincided at some point in time with the sun setting. Otherwise
it's too simple.
Beautiful, strong, pensive
simple, blends with nature; concerned that skate boards will try to play on it; design invites
graffiti
Awesome. Circle should be above ground entirely resting on the earth. (Not partially
buried)Very interesting.
Feels peaceful and having a bench there is inviting for visitors to sit and reflect.
The entire city of Carlsbad has a dysfunctional obsession with interfering with nature . This
entire project is another example of that illness.
The offset nature of the art continues flow of the pathway but offers a seated spot for
personal, quiet reflection. It seems more designed for personal reflection than encompassing
all to reflect fellowship. However, that does fit the nature of a memorial park.
I would change everything. Its modern architecture, nothing natural about it.
According to a vet I showed this to, it looks like a dumb O ring, not at all relatable.
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Gorgeous, contemplative, peaceful, just beautiful.
It has a bench to sit. I think kids will try to walk up the inner slope and play on it. Could be a
safety hazzard
It's a toss up with #1. is rather simplistic.
Like the contemplative/meditative aspect; additionally, the concept of unity in the never
ending circular ring
Gives calming feeling, unifying
The best
I like the simple design and the framing of the horizon. It needs something to convey that it is
related to veterans.
Same as A.
I like this the best. It does feel honoring, respectful, and contemplative. It feels like it would
fit in and be admired.
It's fine
Peaceful and inclusive and futuristic. Change the color.
The giant pencils is an instant reject, the other two look derivative of Maya Lin's Vietnam
Memorial, which at least carries the names of the fallen. These do no such thing, they could
represent anything, given the right ad copy (as they are here).
The circle should be in the direction of the sun, so one could watch the sun rise and fall
through it, not just the horizon. There could potentially be two circles instead of just one and
they suspend taut ropes (in a ladder form) where vines and other plants can be strung
through to give the area some much-needed beauty
I love the circular formation, it's comforting, like realizing the cycle of life.
Looks too "big and overbearing" for the surroundings. Really do not like it.
Feel it is the most reflective design and aligns with carlsbad community as an photo
desitnation for their social media
I like the beautiful design and setting and agree it exemplifies contemplative reflection but I
don’t see anything that encourages thoughts specifically about our military.
Again it doesn’t align with the environment. There needs to be water, greenery, maybe a
structure that reflects sunlight.
This while still simple provides the provoking thought aspect while having the community
engage and think about why you’re there.
I like that the ring represents unity, and I like the bench to rest and reflect.
Very picturesque but lacks military symbology. This would be well suited for another location,
as it is very beautiful for an ocean view vista.
I dislike it. It has no bearing or relation to veterans. It is just modern art that looks like a piece
of playground equipment.
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I like that it has 4 sides of steel. however this upside down ring form is not unique- and feels
small and the orientation is singular. Certain positions for viewers will be favored and may
exclude equity of use due to there being a preferential position to experience the work front
facing. Does not effectively offer natural gathering space . p.s. off to the side of path
orientation communicates walk by or step to the (one) side. This sculpture may
unintentionally create a space that offers a narrow path of user experiences, promoting
passive behavioral expectations - regardless of age or response.
This design is also soothing.
I do like this one, dramatic and understated at the same time. I just like the arch better
because it seamlessly fits into the surroundings. I would change the burms around the ring so
as not to block any views. the bench is a great touch.
I love the design but think there should be a lot of seating so more than 2 or 3 people can
reflect. It would be nice if multiple benches were put in a semi-circle on one side. I worry
people will get upset if people don't move along fast enough for everyone to enjoy the space.
I like this design the most. The circular structure evokes a sense of the continuous service
throughout the generations and the sense of community that veterans and service members
are always and forever connected to. It also reflects a sense of time as nonlinear and
continuous and fits beautifully into a natural setting where nature often prefers shapes and
patterns reflecting softness and flow. I do like the "sharp" edges on the flat surface of the
design; I wonder if slightly more rounding would be more visually appealing and I'm also
curious how the material will stand up to our salty ocean air over time. Otherwise this design
is wonderful as it is. From the many parks across several states that I've visited this also
stands out as a unique design and I really like the dual connection to service members and
nature, which provides a sense of tranquility and calm much more than other designs. This
feels like a place where someone would sit and reflect, remember, and be able to feel
connected to a solid space. This is important for the public and also for our veterans.
I live in the City of Carlsbad and have two boys at the USNA. I love this design.
Without some explanation no one would know what this is represents. The wheel? The circle
of life? Goodyear Tires?
Place of reflection - the mounds remind me of burial grounds - open up the ring to an oval
and include more seating for reflection
I like the simple shape and design and the whole concept of this one.
It will become a favorite photo spot for residents and visitors and a chance for conversation
and reflection.
Really like this one
See my comments in part 3 above
Love the design, as long as it's not a skateboarder magnet. Love how it frames the sunset in
the rendering.
I like that the ring symbolizes Unity service and Remembrance. I like how you can view the
ocean through the ring however it seems like the raised grassy area on either side is a little
too high and causes some of the view to be obstructed.
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The form of the ring. Expression of the circle of life.
This is my favorite of all the designs, the shape plays well with natural light. Any other design
would be a travesty.
I don't care about the symbolism. This design looks better in my opinion
Circles have many positive feelings: infinity, serenity, wholeness, a lens to see more clearly.
Would be more natural in stone; steel is cold and unnatural.
It’s a place to sit and think. It represents unity as all round bands do.
It's a full circle completion. It represents Community, flexibility, inclusivity, love, commitment,
and generational unity.
My vote is for this design.
beautiful place for sitting and reflection.no obtrusive and clean wavelike lines.
This is beautiful...feels like Carlsbad...a community of unity...circle of community, unity,
welcoming to all...holds the energy of the setting sun in the Pacific ocean town of Carlsbad.
Peace...a continous circle unity.
Make sure it faces west for sunset picture taking. Otherwise, the design is great
This is a nice object, but there is very little connection to military service. I relate spherical or
continuous forms to symbols that refer to the everlasting. To think that a connection to the
military is everlasting is a sad reflection of the challenges that our military has faced in
serving their country. Perhaps it is a good reflection of the continuous problems that they
deal with after their service.
Concern about this object being used as a skater grind palace...
Limits # of people who can interact. You know it will be climbed upon, which detracts from
contemplative quality.
While this is an interesting piece that seems to encourage a space that would be good for
reflecting, I don't see how this honors the military.
Continuous ring reflects never ending service
the design is to much concrete and not enough open space. It reminds me of the bars that
was located on the beach park in Carlsbad. It is too large of a block design and does not fit
into nature.
It is beautiful, but feels too "individual", whereas the arch can include many together, the
ring is more limited
Beautiful & serene.
I didn't connect with the piece.
The overall design of Concept B is clearly superior.
I like the Ring and see myself taking a picture with it if it does line up like the image!
Has some impact but no relationship to the militaries.
Looks inviting and symbolizes unity.
As a veteran, I find the ring’s circular design the most compelling symbol of service, unity, and
remembrance.
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Nothing in the design suggests or honors military service. It looks like a wedding arch at a
wedding venue. It will invite wedding parties to have their ceremony there, instead of
reflecting on the sacrifices of military service.
I like the unbroken circle, which conveys unity and connection. It is powerful in its simplicity.
If it is orientated to the west or southwest it could be a very moving experience to take in the
sunset tramed by this design. I like this one far, far more than the others and I would not
change it at all. I would also like to add that my family has veterans from the Navy, Marine
Corps and Air Force; I could not choose more than one answer for question #10.
I am a Navy Veteran who lost 27 of my shipments 60mi. off the coast of Carlsbad on March
21, 1991. I was in VP50 Squadron, from Moffett Field, at the time and we were performing
patrol exercises with US Navy submarines in the area when two of our planes collided mid
air. It’s a day I will never forget. I live near the Park and look forward to a location I can go to
reflect and continue to honor my shipments on a regular basis. Thank you Carlsbad for
building this park. It means a lot to me!! Galen Hoffman 8587742402
Love this design and color it is people oriented and open and includes all.
By far the best of the options
This design really pulls at my mind and heart, it demonstrates strength and endurance. I
really like the opportunity provided to sit and reflect.
Best for reflection. Probably the best selection for Carlsbad.
It represents the strength of the veterans, there is nothing stronger than a ring, it’s a
constant through change!
The bench where one can sit in silence.
The sitting bench will be overwhelmed; not enough space for vistors to interact w/ the design
all at the same time
I think this design is prone to abuse by skateboarders.
Simplistic but doesn’t portray a strong message at first glance
again, simple design, which is fine - but there is nothing that says thank you to our veterans
Interesting design; good place to reflect
The circle shows unity and togetherness. I like the design.
The ring gives a feelof peace and closure
Be sure to keep seating. Interpretive plaque would help visitors understand the symbolism.
This design immediately jumped out to me as peaceful and a spot I'd sit to contemplate our
great country and those who served and died defending our freedom. It's beautiful. Thank
you.
It's of nothing, our Family member died serving our Country and how does a circle represent
him, it's not a wall of names and why not a statue with it.
Way Bigger
Contemplative. Doesn't obstruct the walkway or the view. Brings you in. Need to tie Carlsbad
more into the overall message of the piece.
Reflects wholeness, meditative area
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Needs to be bigger for more seating area
Frames the environment nicely. Larger please. Curved seating area or mirror reflection of
statue in the bench shape.
I don't care for it.
Clear winner comparatively. If placed correctly, will be a powerful piece that draws people in.
Love it!!
Represents an honorable and safe place to be, inspiring those who serve to feel honored and
safe. Shows strength and protection, both for one person and for all people.
I like the eternal symbolism of the ring/circle, and the idea of renewal and momentum.
Just add trees... they are the most beautiful monument to service, community, and
meaninfulness.
The ring is universally symbolic, but vague in expressing values of Carlsbad or in remembering
those who served in the military unless it's a portal back to WWII
Meaningful without overwhelming the natural landscape.
It will become iconic and end up being a place that many people want to be part of and
photograph . Very commanding in presence.
I love the bench facing out, looking through the opening.
I like the additional elements of the hills on either side. I do not like the way the ring
intentionally frames whatever it looks towards. It implies that there are particular right and
wrong ways to look at it and through it. That is off-putting. I also do not like the bench for this
same reason. I think it would catch the light at sunset nicely however.
It’s simple and represents unity like a engagement ring
It’s beautiful and speaks of strength and unity.
Structure and meaning. Placement to reflect and look into the sea.
This reflects the message unity. It also gives an area of reflection.
I don't see how it relates to the military.
No military relivence
I really like the effect of the keyhole especially in the seated photo. I would not change it, it
has everything it needs and I would like to sit there and reflect.
I love everything about this. The design is peaceful and allows a space for quiet reflection. It is
perfect!
I like that it frames the sunset
The simplicity of a circle. The different branches of the military working in unison for a
common mission. Of the 3 choices, this is the one I prefer. It’s peaceful. It’s never ending.
Circle of life
I like the way it highlights the ocean view
Openness and beauty of Carlsbad
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I think this design is breathtaking and is my favorite concept by far. The circular shape
represents unity, inclusiveness, and peacefulness, which were of particular importance to
Carlsbad residents. It is the simplest design but also the most meaningful in my opinion. It
invites meditation and reflection, which I think is essential for a piece of public art in a park
honoring veterans and their military service. I would visit the park repeatedly just to see this
lovely sculpture and spend time in reflection, unlike the other two concepts.
This is a calming design.
The circle design is interesting. Feel that the smaller size limits viewing opportunities for
multiple visitors.
Way better, but would have no idea it had to do with the military unless we were told.
The shape signifies community to me
Solid but needs words of rememberance to set the right tone.
I like that it frames the view
Has a vista point, meaning makes more sense. Has a place to sit and contemplate. Maybe add
a mosaic/design type areas inside curve area to deter graffiti like the neat murals done with
caltrans under passes. Maybe representing emblem/logo of each branch of service.
Too bulky, breaks up the view too drastically
Seems too feminine
Providing the lagoon is centered in the ring, this design provides the best situation for
refection and gives a person a place to est and think about their past in the service or those
they know who have been in the service.
I could see kids on bikes are skateboards using this as a launching point, so think it might be a
bad idea even though of the three, I liked it best.
Like there is a bench and encourages refection on the framed view
Suggest more benches
as a military family, I love the look of it and everything it represents.
Good place to sit.
Classic, contemplative, Instagram worthy
This is the best design. It makes for a beautiful picture. The circle suggests coming full circle,
or coming home. It welcomes our veterans back.
The circular shape speaks to strength, resilience, and service. It also invites engagement,
reflection and respect. If there were a way to represent the branches of the military, perhaps
with rings joined together?
The symbolism of the themes of continuing service, unity, and remembrance are central to all
branches of our military and also to the ethos of Carlsbad. This design embodies all of that
and joins it with engagement in our unique and beautiful setting, with views of the sunset
and water.
The quiet reflective and peaceful space. And the ability to sit while reflecting for those who
served and for those who supported those who served, while facing Carlsbad's beautiful
ocean view. It says it all!
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I don't understand how this represents service. Aside from that, if this design were chosen, I
would make it bigger, and maybe add more than one. I can envision lots of visitors wanting to
take photos inside the circle, and while I would encourage it, I can see it getting crowded
pretty quickly.
Ugly. Cold.
Facing the Ocean is spectacular at sunset. Would have liked to see a picture of sunrise looking
the opposite direction.
Initially this was my favorite but in listening to the presentation to the Arts' Council, the
designer indicated that when sitting on the bench for contemplation, a person would see a
subdivison and power lines and that he should have brought images from his on-site visit to
show that.
My least favorite of the three designs. Uninspiring.
it's good you're seeking input but these designs are just stylistic and cold. you're going down
the same route as "the bars" sculpture at near offshore surf shop decades ago.
This is my favorite concept, and I feel connected to the Ring! The Ring fits the setting very
well!
Nothing. It is my favorite
I do not like the design at all for its intended purpose.
I am disappointed that this valuable piece of land is being changed at all. It's perfect just the
way it is.
I like the contemplative aspect of this design. Adding more benches would invite more people
to stop, rest and reflect.
It’s the circle of life.
I love the design and that it will frame the horizon. This piece is aesthetically pleasing and my
favorite.
The one is my favorite (along with my 2 girls). I can see reflection here. It doesn’t seem to be
specific to veterans though. Kids say they would change it so your could climb on it. Perhaps
Carlsbad veterans names could be engraved into inside of ring?
Allows for picturesque view and snapshot. Bench encourages reflection. Does not explicitly
capture veteran sentiments without explanation
Looks like a ring
seems a bit bulky
As a veteran, I find it cold and irrelevant to my service experience. Find a concept that has
some military feeling.
This is all tax payer waste of money. I posted on your Facebook post and suggested to leave
as is. This way you have no issue with homeless people and vandalism. Minimal maintenance.
Everyone can enjoy nature and the land. At the end that’s what the vets were fighting for.
Save money, preserve the land.
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Of the three bad designs, this is the least worst. In no way does this reflect the sacrifices of
military veterans. Are there no veterans on staff to review this “art”? I’m embarrassed for
Carlsbad.
Return to the drawing board.
This one is better than the first. Can you make something that isn’t steel? Like made of wood
or stone? Something more natural and less of an eye sore.
What is intended for the memorial's legend?
Again a structure that will not be respected and invites play on and around.
it looks as though it should be in a large inner city, not carlsbad.
It encourages people to take time for the view this frames, consistent with thoughts toward
natural environment.
I love this one! Sitting and appreciating the view is both a Carlsbad value and a reflective
measure. The bench encourages reflection. It embraces what we love and honors the
sacrifices of our veterans and their families.
Clean, simple but depth of thought
Seems to evoke serenity
Best of the three. I wouldn’t change anything.
I like the way it frames the horizon,
I like the fluidity of a circle or ring and the concept behind it
A circle or ring really an insult we have navy to the south USMC to the north and a hole in
Carlsbad
Nice design, but bird droppings could accumulate at the top.
I love this. Beautiful and meaningful.
Like - sturdiness and symmetry. Looks like a ship’s porthole or a portal into another era.
Change - none.
Perfect! And looks honorable
It is simple and beautiful. The ring also fits the space well, and I like that there is a place to sit
and reflect by it.
Facing the ocean—peaceful!!
Beautiful design. Ring is a great symbol for the military and visually appealing. I hope it can be
aligned so the sun will set through it on occasion.
Is there a place to name and honor Carlsbad Veterans who have passed?
The bench to sit and look thru a framed landscape is nice but I think the raised earth oh
either side is overdone and takes away from the natural setting
Way nicer than the other two
This circle connect to the Carlsbad logo. This hill is where many kids go for prom photos and
to watch the sunset. The circle seems appropriate for the view.
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It reminds me of a ring, or a promise. It is a memorial, and our service men and women
upheld their promise to serve our country. Some of course served and sacrificed their own
lives. Changes? Maybe not so thick but it depends on the material. But I like this.
I like it and no change
I understand the unity part. It’s not part of the landscape
Unity, the Circle of Life
More than one bench?
This design could be unique if the circle also aligns with the sunset. I suppose the circular
shape represents unity, otherwise, I don't see the connection to service and remembrance.
Of the three this one is ok
Go back to the drawing board. This is just a ring. A kindergarten student could design this.
I like the openness, the ability to look forward and reflect in the past. zI would add the
emblem for each branch of service,
Not good because limits enjoyment to only a few. A bit heavy.
I really like the reflectiveness of this piece and how it would frame the ocean. My only
concern is that people would spray or etch graffiti the surface. I think people will sit inside of
it and climb on it, which leaves it open to being defaced.
I like the ring because it feels peaceful and encourages reflection
Like the ring.
I like the curves as merge mounds on either side ( not sure what get are made of? Maybe a
berm?
The sculpture is inviting reflection while also looking out at the ocean. It respects the
character of the location's natural setting.
Of the three, i like this best, a continuous circle.
This is a lovely space to sit, reflect, and contemplate. The depth of the view through the circle
is amazing. It invites engagement to "look through" and contemplate. Same as the piece
above though, in that it just needs a bit more to emphasize that it is honoring the military,
something to direct the patron's thoughts to that theme, as that is the intention with this
work of art. And, unfortunately, I see this being used as a perfect skateboard ramp.
This is my favorite
It highlights the view and does not look as ugly as the other options.
Mostly that it is circular and represents never-ending continuity, solidarity. The viewpoint
invites focus, meditation, reflection and is very peaceful. Allows all to continue on the path as
they wish without blocking individual viewing or movement. I like the bench for
contemplation and resting (I'm unable to stand more than a minute without using a walker). I
like the width of the path
Change? I'd like to see a few more benches along the path that would match the the center
memorial. Perhaps three smaller benches on the left past the mounds and three more on the
right just past the mounds to represent the six military branches. It's a beautiful concept and
the best of the three options to me.
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I love this design. I think most people understand the significance of a circle. It seems more
natural than the other two designs.
This is by far my favorite design! It drew my attention immediately. I would encourage them
to add additional seating in that area with a view of the art piece. I would suggest this in
regards to whichever design is chosen!
I think it is the most engaging of the concepts. I could see taking a selfie in front of it. I like
that you can look through the center at the view. I think a circle has more symbolism than the
other concepts.
I don’t like this concept. Put in benches so people can sit and enjoy the views.
This ring design evokes reflection and perspectives about public service, the circle of life and
nature
It is inviting to be inside the circle, which promotes more emotions and actions in capturing
the sentiment through camera. The aesthetics for the material could be more interesting
such as mosaic tiles representing the thousands soldiers/veterans, instead of the boring, one-
note terracotta color.
Circle of life. We are all connected. View the world through it. Beautiful.
Very peaceful and a good place for reflection.
This one could be a nice reflection spot. Centering focus of a nice view of Carlsbad.
Simple.. calm.. unity endless circle..
Beautiful meaning in a beautiful setting. Very well placed with nature.
Make the sides more narrow
Beautiful, peaceful and simple. Great for pics. Park needs something iconic like the lion
sculpture at the zoo.
I like that it provides a unique focal point and offers a space for reflection and honoring our
veterans. It feels peaceful and serene but also stands strong.
It’s beautiful and matches art with intended meaning
the entire design element
I do find the ring my favorite. The circle is peaceful and as they say in weddings, “has no
beginning and no end” which feels appropriate for the love of service members and those
who gave all.
As a veteran I love the idea of a place to sit, reflect and gaze ... live that the ring frames the
space.
As a Veteran spouse, this one feels the most meaningful. It’s a full circle, circling the
commitment and life of veterans from start to finish.
It is intentional and creates opportunity for people to pause and reflect.
Reminds me of looking through a window as service members would whether it be a ship, a
plane, barracks, or a military transport. Also the circle of life it seems to fit into the
surroundings.
The circle implies guidance, the opening provides guidance and transmits light, the overall
shape models clouds and ocean w
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Ves.
Clunky looking with one little bench. At least have a semi circle bench so that a small group
can gather. Best of the three but I am not convinced.
The circle would represent a never-ending commitment of our military service personnel to
defend our freedom and protector of our democracy.
It must line up with shadow from sun at 11am on November 11! Don’t forget! Anything less is
provincial. With 11:11:11 - I make all above rankings. Rankings are not as is.
By tilting it, the person’s shadow can line up with 11:11:11.Please add reference to veterans
& military, while keeping it for all to reflect. There are reasons Veterans Day is Nov 11. Honor
this National day of recognition.
This one evokes the most reflective and calming feeling.
It invites reflection. I like the feeling of completeness and the incorporation of the bench
This looks and feels like the best concept of the 3. If anything I would find a way to better link
the design to military service, but I see huge potential for doing so
I like it - beautiful and the bench is nice.
There is no connection with the Veteran's or symbols that evoke any sense of service to our
country or community outside the name “Veterans park”. How can there not be a national
flag on site? We seem to have missed the mark in our desire to present art
This design is closer to meeting the artist's intent. As a coastal community, the design would
mirror Carlsbad's seaside culture.
Nothing- get more bids. I'm a 20 year veteran. What do any of these have to do with
honoring the military, or anything?
have more benches for those wanting reflection
Circle design embodies inclusiveness. More of a spiritual, contemplative feel than the other
two designs.
Like: reminds me of the sun
Change: make a wider base?
It is just a generic 'O'. There are probably multiple cities with something like this.
It serves as a frame to contemplate the view, the sunset, the ocean— could be calming and
reflective.
I like that it has a bench to sit and reflect. I like that it frames the ocean view.
Add military wording either on a wall or plaque nearby.
I like that it encourages reflection and emphasizes the wonderful view. I like that there is a
bench, and that the ground is elevated a bit behind it.
It is at a park so it should encourage interaction
It's interesting. I like this one the best among the three sculptures. With the horizon of the
ocean from afar, this would be more captivating.
Compelling. Relaxing. Fits environment.
Like the space where one can sit and look through it to the scenery.
Not a fan. They look like pencils.
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Very beautiful, a perfect spot to enjoy the view and the serenity that the place offers. I really
like this one.
This is my favorite. The Ring/circle is very engaging
Non of these designs meets the criteria. Looks like the this will be another failed art project
like the "bars" that had to be removed at taxpayer expense.
Beautiful design. I wouldn’t change anything.
I like this design the most if I had to select one. But it doesn’t appear to represent anything
about veterans or their service.
Too simplistic
Like the circle of unity. Would want sufficient space at the bottom for several people to walk
thru the “ring” comfortably
Of the 3 designs, I appreciate this art piece the most. It is intuitively invites visitors to reflect
upon the view framed by the piece and organic shape blends into the landscape while also
being safe for children, pets, etc.
If there is something I like about this option, it is the bench that invites one to sit and reflect,
but, again, without reading the description, there is nothing in this design that evokes honor
for military service, which I believe is one of the primary goals shared by the community and
as part of the vision for this park specifically.
It shows strength.
Have the circle face the ocean to view sunset through the middle.
Circular symbols are found in many military traditions, the art piece of the walkway, and the
bench and framing the horizon are all elements I like about this design. I also like the small
hills next to the artwork. I wouldn't change anything.
Very interesting, no changes.
It's pretty, but it does not evoke a veterans theme.
I want to sit inside this and reflect. Definitely the best of the 3 designs. Lovely.
Looks like a place where kids will hang out, smoke and drink beer
It's simple. It frames a natural part of Carlsbad landscape and invites reflection via the bench.
Make sure its about the Veterans not about a Modern Art Display.
This is my favorite design! I really like how engaging it is. It creates a focal point to look out
over the ocean. The circle is symbolic.
Like the reflective part, circle represents our yeat round sun. I’ve always loved walking
Veterans LOOP so it’s indicative of this trail & loop.
Like the ring’s simplicity and strength. Would be nice to position the viewing bench with a
beautiful view through the ring to the distant ocean.
It's nice and simple, though not as unique as the others.
It would be nice to use the disc here that is at the top of the arc to replicate the green flash
and other colors throughout the day.
The beauty looking out to the horizon, the strength and bond it represents of our military's
commitment to us. It invites you to take a moment to stop and reflect. Just beautiful!
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It is an odd looking design.
I would not use an O. An O seems to be indicative of Oceanside.
Very pretty, aesthetically interesting.
I like the bench, so one can sit and reflect while looking through the circle.
I like it's "reflective" encouragement and that it's not overly intrusive to the natural
environment. It does feel a bit random for what it's supposed to symbolize.
This one brought tears to my eyes. It is stunning and I imagine a lone soldier sitting and
watching the sunset. Just stunning!
It would become the joke of town, sex jokes.... and a perfect place to do some skateboard
tricks! So after a few accidents and million dollar lawsuits it will be happily removed.
I like this design. It reminds me of the arches in Arches National Park. If it is oriented the right
way, it will be a great frame for a perfect sunset.
Feels peaceful
This is my second favorite design, I am concerned about the attraction to skateboarders and
kids and the durability over time
I
its shape
add military symbols representing all armed forces
This design resonated with me much more than the others. I love: the bench, the two berms
that "hold" the ring like two hands, the scale, and the setting off the side of the path.
How can you discourage skateboarders from riding upon surfaces of this design? Would like
to see native trees and native foliage planted aesthetically around monument.
Should point in a good/material direction.
Love that it frames the view
I like being able to look through it at the vista
could be used for weddings
nothing
Feels too solitary
I like the uniqueness of this design and can envision it being a point of reflection.
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Concept C – Spires
6. To what extent do you agree that this concept reflects each of the following
themes identified by the community?
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I like the imagery of the unity of the six military branches. In a not-good way for a military
memorial, it reminds me of an explosion. Dichroic glass is cool. How durable is it when people
throw stuff at it? Who will be responsible for removing stuff that people launch to land on
the disc? I guess I'm saying that rather than encouraging reflection, it's a bit too literal, so you
might feel like you get it right away and then start thinking about ways to engage with it that
are more recreational (and possibly destructive) than reflective.
Representation of the service branches is a thoughtful element. Reminds me too much of
suspended "nest" style swings or vertical post oriented play structure encountered in
Germany/Switzerland playgrounds/spielplatz. The disc is an interesting element relating to
nature and the locale. The vertical scale feels interrupting to visual flow of the area, but
would certainly be striking and generate a pause.
I like the flow of the structure and how it fits into the natural surroundings. Unfortunately, it
reminds me of an ant.
least favorite; reminds me of a bunch of pencils. Would be interested in seeing how the
dichroic glass reflects color
Don't Like
concern about the glass becoming a target. someone gets hurt, the glass needs to be
replaced. If neither of these are issues, I like the 6 military branch representation
Does it have to be contemporary art?
I like how this has a clear tie to the military as there are 6 spires and 6 branches, but other
than this I do not think it represents the military well.
Too tall, not natural looking
I do not care for this one.
Nothing suggests military
notice the photo of the man "walking away"-there is no reason to pause. Children may enjoy
swinging in a circle around each pole...It draws your eye out into space rather than inward in
a contemplative manner.
"The Spires" is too tall and obtrusive. It does not fit into the Park's natural setting at all.
Please do no select "The Spires."
I don't like anything about it.
I like the engaging part of colors, just wish there was a way to demonstrate that for selecting
purposes. Did not like that it looks like pencils.
It is bold and aggressive in nature. Just not sure it is inviting.
It looks like an attack to me
Not attractive
Don't like the spires.
Dumb,Dumb,Dumb
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An updated version of the old "Monkey Bars" at the Pine street park.
Most interesting but the most intrusive to the environment, local birds using the "platter" as
a roosting spot. Kids swinging around the spires seems dangerous. Glass platter and sea
breezes? Don't know how that will work out.
As a piece of art, I love this design. As a memorial, I don't feel it evokes any feelings of
honoring our service members.
Another interesting design--I love dichroic glass--but vandals will likely find breaking the glass
disk irresistible, and keeping the horizontal disk clean will be a challenge.
This one is very creative, but is visually more harsh and less contemplative.
I get the six military branches, but it looks like pick up stix to me. Doesn’t make me remember
any military sacrifices.
Doesn't make sense
I like the concept of using the dichroic glass to project color onto the ground however I find
the lack of design or interest in the circle to be boring.
Nothing.
I like that the full circle symbolizes unity. Something that is missing in our society.
Not inviting
Doesn’t fit the area at all. Please do not choose this option.
I like that the full circle symbolizes unity. Something that is missing in our society.
Looks sharp and hard
I hate it. Looks like chop sticks....dont see any relavance to the military
It is a little scary.
Adds no shelter and artistically weak.
I do not see how any of the three concepts honors the military or tells a meaningful story or
encourages respect.
Of the 3 choices this is my preference. To me it has more of a message thank e other 2
NOT A FAVORITE. DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE THE CONCEPT. A TON OF SIGNAGE WOULD BE
NECESSARY.
Nothing to change. Just discard the concept.
This looks like an appetizer plate in the middle of the park. I see no honor or respect being
offered here.
My least favorite
I feel that it is not solid enough.
Represents all current military branches. However, what happens if military branches change
where one or more are added or deleted. Like the disk that changes color.
+ Dynamic, changing, theme of unity
It's unique.
Waste of money on something most people won’t see. Cancel the project, spend tax dollars
we paid for something more useful like raising police officers’s salaries, eliminate drug
dealers and homeless people off the streets where we live.
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This design has the feeling of action in that it opens to possibilities, unlike the other two
designs that just sit there. I also like the dichronic glass feature.
Of the 3 choices this is my preference. To me it has more of a message thank e other 2
Spires don't have flow.
Whaaa? Looks like pick-up-stix.
It looks like arrows and weapons to me. Maybe if it were loops it would look less fierce.
This design feels like it would invite the wrong kind of engagement - people trying to in some
way disrupt/damage the suspended disc.
Same as above
This design does not reflect a calming or peaceful experience to me.
I like the dichronic glass that changes color with the sunlight and view point. That is creative.
seems out of character with an outdoor park;
Looks unfinished
I like the concept of having something that honors the different branches of the service butt
doesn't feel inviting for visitors.
The entire city of Carlsbad has a dysfunctional obsession with interfering with nature . This
entire project is another example of that illness.
I like this design the least. It’s more intrusive than flowing. Would be better honoring
teachers as it looks like a cup of pencils. It inhibits flow as the spires are anchored in the
sidewalk. It does not fit at all with the park’s natural setting. It’s jarring. Which as art is fine
but does not fit with the concept of peaceful reflection.
The only reflection the designs convey is "what the hell is it, or what is it supposed to mean?"
Way too militant and scary to vets who were in service. Looks like a bayonet.
Feels negative and aggressive
This is just ugly.
The glass suspended disk that changes color depending on sunlight & viewpoint. That’s
mesmerizing !! Other than the unity among the 6 branches of the military, this beautiful
round glass can also symbolize the earth, the sun and the moon.
Don't like this - think it could break in many ways. Need a more public-resistant piece - this is
too delicate.
Would be concerned with the suspended obelisk presenting a tempting target on to which
throw items and, over time, will require periodic cleaning
Scattered feeling
no way
I like this design the least. It looks like a giant game of pick up sticks. I would not support this
design
Seems dangerous
It reminds me of something from Carlsbad's past - the public art by Tamarack that stirred up
public engagement with "Ban the Bars". That piece was later removed
It's ugly and tells no discernable story.
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Nothing. All this piece does is advertise the artist's history in glassmaking.
I like the dichroic glass idea, however the 6 ugly spires aren’t inviting and when looking at it
nobody would be able to tell what it was supposed to represent. No message is being spread,
no story being told. Adding differing shapes and colors associated with the branches would
help, or potentially trees with the glass disk suspended in the middle
I like the glass changing feature, but I don't like the spirals/spike look, it's kind of chaotic
Like the glass that provides lighting below but overall it looks too "stark" and does not blend
well with the hills around it.
like that it is a very unique design, but not sure if it is identified with the military, looks like
paint brushes to me and almost invites people to try to sit in that middle disc
The Spires remind me of the Bars “Art installation by Harbor Fish down in the Village.
Least favorite. The only thing I appreciate about it is that makes the number of the SIX
branches of the military more evident.
I like the fact that it represents the 6 branches of the military and the reflective glass but it’s
too tall and too stark. I don’t like the color of the spires that’s not a calming color, should be
blues and/or greens.
Just why?
I like the six branches being represented. It would be nice to have a place to rest and reflect. I
wonder about the durability of the glass.
I like what the spires represent but it looks like paint brushes with a paint palet. This would
be well suited for another location.
I dislike it. It has no bearing or relation to veterans. It is just modern art that looks like a piece
of playground equipment.
I like the glass. Would prefer it if there were three coated discs which could rotate in the
wind, overlapping to project varied color harmonies - Felipe Pantone style.
This piece makes me feel uncomfortable to a point where I wouldn't want to interact with the
piece due to its jaggedness.
It reminds me more of a kids' playground then a memorial for our veterns.
I think it is move engaging to talk about and the color piece will be fun throughout the day as
the sun rises and sets.
Unfortunately this is my least favorite design. I like the colors and the color changing glass as
features--very unique. But spires to represent the six branches feels overdone. I have seen
these types of structures in too many places and while these represent each branch, it
doesn't provide a sense of connection, contemplation, reflection of the *people* who make
up those branches. It's not a space I would go to to reflect and meditate on that.
This is awful. Nothing says veterans like spikes coming out of the ground. This reminds me of
the Bars Sculpture we had at the beach.
Can be colorful
I like nothing. It's aggressive, unlike the peace we wish veterans, living, dead, or on the street.
Ugly
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Like the symbolism, don't like the design.
I like the fact that you can see through it but it's so pointy it reminds me of a cactus and it's a
little off-putting because of that.
I genuinely find this horrendous, worse than horizontal Gumby. Please anything but this.
I dislike this design. It is cold unnatural severe and shocking. Military symbolism is there in
the steel spears. The military branch symbolism is only understood if there is a plaque
explaining the significance: good art does not need explanation. Bleak.
The spires, like spears, imply combat which is only 1 element of our military.
It feels out of place. Does not blend in
looks like a bunch of pencils or chopsticks stuck in the ground
That it represents the branches of US military...i prefer the circle...this would be my second
choice..
I don't care for this design, ugly and pointy like a knitting needle bag.
I appreciate the connection between the six military branches and that guests can walk
through or interact with the poles. I do not understand why they are poles, vs. mounds, or
benches, or lights, or or or. The dichroic glass feels like a failed attempt at connecting the
branches and feels like an afterthought. The materials used in this design have no clear
relation to military service and to veterans.
seems too ethereal...
shows parts working together for joint purposeWe
Looks like pencils stuck in the ground. Disc will need to be cleaned periodically.
This is terrible. I'm a Marine Corps veteran, and I don't feel like this honors the military in any
way whatsoever,. This design is the worst of the 3 ideas. Maybe a design that incorporates all
of the flags or logos of each branch??
Everything…looks potentially dangerous
Not sure how this design represents unity among the services. Looks like poles stuck into the
ground.
is not attractive and does nothing to tell a meaningful story. Does not fit into nature setting.
I'm sure the dichroic glass would be stunning, but the design looks like pencils in a cup and
feels too separate and somehow harsh
Unique design & glass element. I like the tie in to the 6 military branches. At first glance, it
looks like paintbrushes or pencils. Could you add a second glass towards the top?
I think the piece is too small for the concept. Representation of the the six branches of the
military should be much larger.
This would make sense if the structure had one upward pillar for each existing service, but it
does not. Why? It would seem to show the upward trajectory of each service in achieving it
missions. Why then does in no have one for each existing service?
Nothing.
Not impressed with this one either
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Nothing in this design suggests or honors military service. This design will invite people to
climb the poles to hang banners from them or make other "statements". The design should
be modified to show one or more service members reflecting on their service to our
community.
I do not like this design one iota. It is sharp and feels intrusive, and it does not blend with the
natural park setting. It looks like a bunch of pencils thrown into the ground like darts, and the
fragile nature of glass does not reflect the strength and resilience of those in military service.
I really hate it.
I don't like it I would change everything to the circle of inclusion
Not my favorite
This is a beautiful design but it feels more violent and destructive. It brings visions of war,
incoming projectiles/bombs.
Ugly. Looks like a tinker-toy monument.
It has the requisite six spires for the six branches.. are the individual branches identified on
the spires? I don't understand what the glass is supposed to represent.. perhaps if it was six-
sided, as well, it would show the interdependence of teh services..
Nothing
Don’t care for the design.
Most preferred of the 3 designs. I like the color changing glass and the potential that has to
create new and different shapes, colors, patterns with each visit.
Portrays a strong message of recognition of each faction of the military and reflects coming
together in unity with the center glass piece. The uniqueness and beauty of the Carlsbad
community is well represented with the design.
this design is the most dynamic and at least references the # of branches of the service. i do
like that the glass will reflect different colors during the day. Why is the center disc
purple/pink? what does the disc represent? what does this have to do w/ the military
veterans? also the sculpture resembles #2 pencils...not a big plus
Not very attractive
The 6 pieces of the Military and I like the glass piece.
It looks hostile
The colored pane will create an interesting spot on the ground. Spires will "crown" the
summit. Those might distract from, rather than reinforce, the theme.
The spires don't relax me or put me in a mood to contemplate. Those might be better in a
downtown setting. They almost look like swords to me - or bayonets.
Its a beautiful concept that will be timeless and draw people to it. No changes but perhaps
more concrete benches across the walkway from the it so more can sit a ponder the sacrifices
of our military
It's better then the first 2 but it still doesn't represent those veterans and those who lost
there lives, it feks like Carlsbad is going cheap with it's design and not putting much effort
into proper representation of the Armed Forces.
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Disconected
Nothing. It should not be in consideration. Looks like spears in the air and reminds of conflict.
Clearly doesn't represent Carlsbad.
With some many electrical transmission towers already creating sharp edges on the skyline,
we don’t need more sharp objects.
I don't care for it.
don't like it at all
Doesn’t show connection. Each branch of the military is a part of the entire armed services.
This entry negates the unity of the mission, that the military is united in the quest to serve
our country is absent! Plus it’s just plain ugly.
Not a fan for this project…
It feels rather disjoined and not "uniting" the way the other shapes do.
Provides some shade. Silly, nonsensical. Spread the posts out and add a large canopy with
seating to invite engagement
Does not fit into the natural setting.
Don’t like it. Too futuristic.
I like the disc that changes color and that each spire represents a branch of the military. I
don't particularly care for the concept of it right in the middle of the walking path. Also, the
spires aren't the most aesthetically pleasing.
This is my least favorite of the three. As we have seen over the past few years, the number of
military branches is changeable in this chaotic world. We may yet see additional cyber or
drone-only branches in the future, leaving sculptures like this vestigial. I also think it's
unnecessarily aggressive. I do like the color changing glass element, however, and its
integration with the park may be the best of the three designs.
Too spiky looking
I hate it. It’s threatening and warlike.
Interesting, attractive structure. Glass is a creative.
Nothing. Don’t like it at all.
I like the idea of the 6 branches of the military being represented but the design spikes are
ugly. Is there a way to incorporate the emblem in each branch like etching on arches?
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I would like this from a distance, but it is rather stark. I would like to see a warmer more
inviting sculpture.
This is over the top, the design and the height do NOT fit the space and feeling of the park.
Ugly
Looks like it would be vulnerable to vandalism
Same
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I think this is certainly a unique design concept. I love the idea of the glass reflecting different
colors during the day. I think that could be very interesting to see in person; however, I don't
feel that it is particularly peaceful or reflective. While I understand the concept of each spire
representing a different branch of the military, to my eye the spires actually look more like
spears. Because they resemble weapons and the glass is suspended in the middle as if it
might shatter at any moment, I don't find the sculpture peaceful - I actually find it a little bit
unsettling. I don't know that I would necessarily make the connection to weaponry if the art
wasn't specifically for a veterans memorial; however, I can't help but think it's more an
aggressive display of might/strength rather than a peaceful and inclusive design.
Do not really like the steel spires; they look like spears.
Ugly
I specifically like the colored glass component that will change colors depending on the time
of day and light.
Too pointy
Same issue as noted above. I am a 90 y/o Vietnam veteran who may have problems climbing
the hill.
Looks like pencils or spears (war like) stuck in the ground.. not peaceful at all. Least favorite
don't like design at all. Plus glass disc will be a maintenance nightmare!
Doesn’t fit into natural setting
Looks too angry and threatening
So so
I like this design, but it is active rather than calming. I do not believe that it is the best one to
allow those who visit to thoughtfully think about their life in the military or reflect on past
experiences.
Seems like the safest of the three (look at my earlier comments). Could we incorporate an
American flag in this somehow, maybe a pole in the center?
Too abstract representation of the conceptThey don't say military to me and they don't seem
to be unitedI don't think 30 foot tall sticks is going to be an attractive feature
Colorful!
Looks like a trampoline suspended among paint brushes.
This looks like pencils at first glance and a resembles defensive obstacle like the cheval de
frise, something found on battlegrounds. It is not very welcoming.
This design honors the military branches and service. It would create engagement and
reflection. I think it seems less fitting for the placement on the hill.
I appreciate the way it honors the individual and joint branches of the military. It would
definitely invite engagement with the periodic variations of the glass. I am not sure it fits well
into the park’s natural setting however. Rolling hills contrast with the spiky design, but maybe
that just makes it a more obvious destination within the park. Practically, this seems more
easily subject to vandalism than the others.
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This is my least favorite design. My first thought when looking at the pictures was that it
looked like an animal cage, or a bunch of paintbrushes stuck in the ground.
Nothing
I like the unity theme, but it is too busy for my tastes. I am not sure the glass disc fits the
theme
I really like the idea of spires and that they're 30' high. I'm not sure about the different
"color" at the top third - an arts' commissioner said it reminded her of birthday candles. I do
not like that the glass colors are bright and bold and feel that detracts from the upward
focus. I would prefer subtle colors.
Any public art at a veterans park should include seating for us aging or disabled veterans.
Must be wheelchair friendly as well. Seating around the spires should allow for viewing from
different directions.
it's good you're seeking input but these designs are just stylistic and cold. you're going down
the same route as "the bars" sculpture at near offshore surf shop decades ago.
Almost too busy!
Needs to be more direct on the message of sacrifice
I do not like the design at all for its intended purpose.
I am disappointed that this valuable piece of land is being changed at all. It's perfect just the
way it is.
The six spires representing the six military branches and the dichroic glass. It seems a bit tall
for the landscape, especially if it will be at the top of a hill. Nearby trees would help it blend
into the landscape.
The representation of all military branches. The feeling of reaching for the heavens where so
many veterans may be after giving their lives for their country.
Looks weird, like what is that?
I don’t like the sparse feel to this sculpture or the spiky design. It look too fragile for the wide
open space & I much prefer the first two designs.
I think the design of this one is the most odd (looks like paint brushes). However it didn’t
know about the color changing part, that’s really cool.
Interesting disc but overall piece doesn't evoke unity with the straight/pokey poles.
Too spiky
It is a nice sculpture that would do well in another location and theme
As a veteran, I find it cold and irrelevant to my service experience. Fund a concept that has
some military feeling.
This is all tax payer waste of money. I posted on your Facebook post and suggested to leave
as is. This way you have no issue with homeless people and vandalism. Minimal maintenance.
Everyone can enjoy nature and the land. At the end that’s what the vets were fighting for.
Save money, preserve the land.
This is the absolute worst of the three. It brings to mind soldiers and civilians being killed. It’s
horrible.
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Return to the drawing board. All these designs do not represent Veterans.
Ok, this one is the worst. Sorry! If I had to pick from these three I feel like the ring is more
natural and a sign of unity.
Don't like it.
Upkeep seems difficult and a flat raised surface seems like a bad idea. Again another
structure that looks like a play feature.
apologies to the artist. not aesthetically pleasing design
This is my least favorite. It’s disruptive to the setting. I do like the idea of the representation
of the military branches, but I do not like the presentation in this piece of art.
Looks like a giant bird spike detractor
Good symbolism, a little harsh looking for the location it will be displayed in
It’s a conversation piece for sure but the spikey appearance is not calming. The message the
artist is trying to convey is good but not easy to decipher.
Getting closer with this but still far off. Veterans who served for us we honer with broom
handles and a plate
This is an awful design. Please don’t give us another “Split Pavilion” that we will need to
spend $$ to remove. I think it would give some veterans PTSD.
Love the symbolism. Do not love the color, and overall esthetic
Like - 6 services are represented. Change - make the spires look like pencils or paintbrushes.
Make it more Instagram friendly
Do not like this design at all - takes away from the natural setting and reflection
It reminds me of pencils sticking out of the ground.
Not peaceful!!
Concept is good. Just not visually appealing - maybe change the colors? Use of suspended
glass might invite vandalism.
Will there be a place to name and honor Carlsbad Veterans who have passed?
This one feels “light” whereas this is a “heavy”subject.
Ugly
Yuck. It stresses me out just looking at it. Count Dracula and heads on post or Apocalypse
Now. Please no.
Not a fan. Reminds me of the Split Pavilion (the Bars) that used to be on Carlsbad Blvd.
Ugh!Looks like jail.
I like it and no change
I understand the 6 branches but these spires don’t say that to me. Least favorite of all 3.
Too spiky and greatly contrasts with the setting. Not a good fit.
Don’t like design, would not recommend
Add benches and remove the middle part of the hill to allow for visitors to sit and look.
Terrible. I don’t want to see see this in the park.
Points up but seems divided and uncovered. If you add som connection over the top, it would
reflect teamwork and having each others back.
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Do not like. The ocean flows and curves. Might work better at a kids' playground.
Don't like the spikes.
I like the glass aspect of it! More glass elements and colors should be incorporated.
Interesting and always changing due to the glass. Could use seating somewhere further away
so it can be seen completely
It looks too complicated and out of place. Something more natural would look better.
I like that Concept B has a bench to sit and reflect upon the natural setting and can be a
contemplative place for veteran's and their families.
This piece doesn't seem to encourage reflection and engagement as much as the potential of
the other two.
This most ties to service and protection, but looks a little like a crown which detracts from
the intent.
Why are their spikes coming out of the ground? It looks like we are representing an explosion
not honoring the military.
Concept representing all six branches of the military is good. I don't like the spikes at all other
than the safety color changing glass. It feels wrong because it is not peaceful, spears do not
feel inclusive. Obstructs natural movement and doesn't fit the natural park setting. Why no
benches?
I like the convergence of the six military branches. It best reflects the military significance of
this park of the three designs.
It’s symbolism to all branches of the military and the color changing glass. But it seems too
harsh for the environment and isn’t calming, but more aggressive.
I like the color changing and reference to the six military branches
I suppose you could walk amongst the spires.I don't think it looks very natural or fits in with
landscape. I don't like the addition of a piece of glass strung up with wires.
There's not much natural about these spires
It is obvious that the representation displays the 5 military branches, but the spires look like 5
chopsticks. Big deal! I suggest to add more artistic components to personalize each spire for
each military branch.
Dislike
I like how it represents unity among the six branches.
It’s too stark… like sticks sticking up
Horrible.. like the bars that we paid to install then had to pay to remove!!
Its a unique design with a beautiful concept with the reflection of sunlight.
Nothing
It’s scary looking and a little intense
I don’t care for this design at all.
It is very interesting and could be a great addition to any park. Not sure if it provides a feeling
of reflection as much as the ring.
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I like this one the least. It looks like a bunch of colored pencils sticking in the ground. Looks a
bit dangerous, actually.
It’s just spikes… no peace.
It looks out of place. Too stark and resembles spikes. Not pleasing nor suggestive of a
memorial. It too would need explanatory plaque.
I like that the spires look like spears for the military. They 're arranged to protect what's
inside. They point to the sky, a positive attitude and dedication to improvement. They
resemble the stem or trunk of plants.
The steel spires look to be a little thin. A thicker ones would provide more depth and esthetic.
Words are ‘Armed Forces” as distinguished from “Uniformed Services.”
What if the number of Armed Forces changes again? Unity of branches is not as high a goal as
community recognizing & feeling the loss of war.
I think the glass would be hard to keep clean from bird droppings and would be a distraction
from its purpose.
Not crazy about this -- looks like paint brushes sticking out of a water glass. I can see kids
swinging on the poles and goofing around -- not exactly respectful
I don't like the design at all. It looks like 6 sticks... I see a link to the military but think the ring
conveys strength and unity much more than this. I don't think it fits the objectives mentioned
above
I like this one but does the glass get dirty or do birds poop on it or build a nest on it?
There is no connection with the Veteran's or symbols that evoke any sense of service to our
country or community outside the name “Veterans park”. How can there not be a national
flag on site? We seem to have missed the mark in our desire to present art
This design is closest to recognizing the collective impact and support of all Armed Forces
Branches. Would be nice if each spire had the flag of each Branch.
The absolute worst! Reminds me of The Bars disaster.
not a good fit
I do not like this design.
Very unique. I'm wondering if the disc would collect rain water.
I like the changing colors of the glass and that there are spires for each branch of the military
branches. However, the concept looks too childish and disrupts the flow of the landscape.
I like the sun light changing the design
I like the concept of unity of the 6 branches, but its difficult to see how the colored glass
creates engagement since the image doesn't show us what that will look like. I think the
straight uprights don't blend with the natural environment. My first reaction was negative, it
doesn't make me want to stay and look more.
This design looks cheap and unstable. I like that the glass will change as the sun does, but
that's it.
The glass is cool, but it doesn’t encourage interaction.
simplistic but also strange looking. I think of banned drinking straws.
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Is there going to be a description of the piece and what it represents? i.e. represents 6
military branches? Like the idea of the glass changing color, but hesitant with the description
of it breaks.
This one’s weird, when I first saw it I thought it looks like a bunch of pencils sticking out of the
ground.
Not a fan of this one.
Non of these designs meets the criteria. Looks like the this will be another failed art project
like the "bars" that had to be removed at taxpayer expense.
I think a more traditional veterans artwork should be produced.
The design has a very harsh element, not inviting
Design is overly severe and while it sounds good, it doesn’t reflect simple respect
This is an interesting art piece, but I do not believe it fits into the park's natural setting as it is
clearly manmade and openings potentially difficult to navigate for ability-challenged
individuals.
This would be a fun, whimsical piece, as part of a sculpture garden in another location. In this
setting, however, it goes so far, at least to me personally, to feel disrespectful to our military
veterans and those who still actively serve.
Don't like it at all!
Obvious focus to honor branches of the service. Be interesting to se the constant changing of
glass color. Reflecting change with veterans of all ages.
I don’t like this one at all.
I like this design and believe it evokes feelings associated with military service. The design has
a similar feel to the Air Force Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery. I don't think this one
fits into the landscape as well as the others.
Too bleak & harsh looking Looks like war spears not a Memorial
Do not select this one.
It has an energy to it, but isn't contemplative.
Dislike. Reminds me of the bars they had at Carlsbad beach. Ugh.
Doesn't fit in the surroundings
Do not like. Hope it is not chosen.
Make sure its about the Veterans not about a Modern Art Display.
That it depicts the different military branches. Would be interested to see a combination of
concept B and C. Ring shape with the different military branches inscribed or the ring made
up of six bands.
I find it interesting but wonder if dirt will pile up on the flat disk
Like the idea of changing colors but it feels too harsh to be a reflective piece and it is jarring
on the landscape and looks like its something functional, rather than art.
It's my least favorite design and gives little notions of comfort or ease/reflection.
I do not like the design at all.
This design is ugly, has no functionality, is not inviting, tells no story, looks like junk.
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Nothing
Love the dichroic glass idea, but the spikes feel aggressive in an otherwise soft landscape.
The main thing I don't care for about this design is that it stands waaaay too tall and doesn't
fit comfortably in the beauty of the natural environment.
It looks like spears and is a violent image.
oh boy, let's cook some kebabs or smores!
Spires perfect to barbecue cooking, can even use the glass as a sun collector for solar
cooking. Or maybe zap the people walking underneath. I would stay clear of the
torture/cooking horror. How in the world does it honor veterans?????
This design is "OK" but not great. I prefer the steel circle. The number of service branches
may change over time so this design may become out of date.
That it's trying to tie all 6 branches of the military
This one seems odd and out of place in the natural landscape. The glass will likely become
dirty over time and also seems to pose a risk
Inspiring
I think people will vandalize the disc, throwing stuff on top of it or birds will make it dirty,
taking away from what it's intended
Nope everything
As with the arch, I do not prefer that the piece is in the flow of traffic. and as a series of
spikes, it doesn't feel at all warm or reflective. Nope, the ring has it hands down.
Glass is an interesting concept but placement makes a great perch for birds and errant people
whom feel the need to climb poles and sit on the glass "swing".
La.e
Don't care for it
too sharp looking.
color of the glass
Don’t find it as appealing as the arch.
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8. What else would you like the artist or city staff to consider as the final design
is developed?
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I like the modern abstract nature, I think adding busts or people adds it's own exclusionary
issues. I like (A) the arch or (B) ring maybe with inscription. I think if a ring people would take
selfies in front of it.
Small area with plants near the design.
The possibility of people engaging with public art to post trick videos on social media, and
effective ways to discourage that.. The maintenance costs.
How will it look at night. Will it be lit? What will be the orientation of the structure?
Needs to reflect "Memorial" which respects past and present Veterans
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I’m not quite sure how any of these concepts honor military service.
I think the artist/staff should reconsider how their designs represent the military.
I don't feel that any abstract art work above is reflective of the community themes. Would
suggest the artwork to be more natural environment for people to engage (benches and
trees). A walkway with benches and plants/trees seems to fit into the natural landscape.
I understand the allure of the abstract, but maybe have something that (best) suggests value
of military service without labeling, or failing that, something the clearly talks to our
obligation to our veterans.
A line of cement benches along the pathway that symbolize the stages of their life. I know
this may invite skateboarders, but the edges could be wavy, like the ocean's waves. A person
should be invited to pause at or near the art- elderly people, mommas with babies, people in
wheelchairs can "rest" there, in keeping with the theme of "their service has been a coat of
protection to our nation and its people.
The Park is in a beautiful natural setting. The design of the monument should reflect and
enhance the natural setting. I don't think any one of the 3 design choices does that very well,
but Number 1, "the Arch" is probably the least obtrusive of the 3 designs.
Please consider how some years ago, a previous "art" installation by the beach was very
unpopular and eventually was removed. Please proceed carefully.
As a military family, prior navy ombudsman and person who is championing our military
families in CUSD I’m so thankful this is coming to life. Military awareness is something I’ve
really worked to bring more of to Carlsbad. Thank you for doing this. It’s beautiful. I would
consider looking at Mt Solidad and the way it honors veterans specifically. I hope we have
some of that in this park.
Stop wasting your money! It’s just meaningless
Curious about the orange colors selected for all the sculptures. Might not be my top choice
but interested to understand the background on the color choice selected.
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To bring community together.
Make it a park that young and old can enjoy.
I would possibly utilize the spires concept in monument plaza. The upper area needs
something totally different from what is proposed. I have family who served at Camp
Pendleton and my dad was a WWII POW (Japan).
I would like them to ensure that whatever the design, it is accessible to anyone with a
disability. Thank you for all the hard work that it's going into this planning.
N/A
I really hope we get the ring, and we can have a plaque that reminds people of TNT he
meaning behind the sculpture and maybe a phrase that links the sculpture to our veterans,
both living and departed, to the sacrifices they have made for the community.
I think there should be something more specific in the design, maybe in the glass to add
interest, concept and a spatial quality to the designs
I would like to recommend a brass plaque with the logos of the 6 different branches near the
contemporary art structure. Always nice to have a classic touch recognizing the Armed
Forces.
Color and finish of the material
Needs shade for summer sound of water needs to engage more of the other senses
Dont design something that requires an explanation as to what it represents.
less spires.
Increase size of The Arch
I would like to see the public art meet “what we heard from the community” and actually
honor our veterans.
PATRIOTIC PRIDEMIA
I admit that I am bereft of artistic talent. That said, I have no idea why the artists thought that
these creations would connect to or honor veterans.
I would like some greenery around the park symbols.
Perhaps a flagpole.
How can we honor Carlsbad residents who have died serving our country? ? a veteran wall on
the property?
Signage explaining symbolism, graffiti prevention
Waste of money on something most people won’t see. Cancel the project, spend tax dollars
we paid for something more useful like raising police officers’s salaries, eliminate drug
dealers and homeless people off the streets where we live.
Brass or bronze plaques mounted on individual pedestals honoring each of the military
services.
Any of these need an informational plaque to explain. Include motivational quote.
integrated seating areas
Where are the images of the services members? How does design show global nature of
service? Courage? Sacrifice? Freedoms protected? Victory?
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Display and maintain in good condition of the military flag branches. Engrave veterans' names
on the spires.
Arch and Spires look potentially dangerous; too easily climbable.
add benches around the art to encourage reflection
The entire city of Carlsbad has a dysfunctional obsession with interfering with nature . This
entire project is another example of that illness.
Thank you for your dedication to this project. Thank you for including the residents’ interests
by conducting these surveys. It will surely be another fine park addition for our community.
How about something that demonstrates the sacrifices made by our Vets?
How about a nice few benches and plaque and stop wasting money. And include the
Merchant Marine because they are important too.
Very important no matter which design is selected that a bench is provided for sitting, for
reflection either within the structure or off to the side.
Public art doesn't have to be so stiff and formal. How about some curves, some movement?
It will be on a hill with a great view
Simple, strong design that feels best per veterans
Less conceptual more visually pleasing. Think about what makes the environment look nice
over all. The first and third examples are not calming in any way.
There needs to be some type of plaque at the site that explains some of the description that
is included above. Without that I don't think people will understand how the sculpture relates
to veterans and what the intent is.
To make sure there’s plaques with descriptions of what this is and the purpose.
Thanks for asking
Why they confused an architectural design firm as an artist.
The simplicity is ugly, and the steel is a bad choice as art goes. Some sort of nature-oriented
approach (like a nice gazebo with flowers and vines growing around and through it) or actual
artistic approach would be best.
Brilliant having the incredible Gordon Huether provide these incredible sculptures. He's really
integrated the military sacrifices while complimenting the natural world..
fitting in with nature better rather than standing out so much
To make the reason this park honors our military, either the emblem of each branch can be
added to the structure OR a statement such as “In honor of our military veterans” and be
inscribed on the structure.
Find another artist! If an artist could develop something that also takes into account the
breeze or wind and makes calming sounds.
I’m more of a traditional sculpture kind of guy but I get what you’re trying to do. The ring
could be cool if it was granite or stone instead of metal.
I am a 31 year Marine Corps active duty veteran and appreciate any recognition to our brave
service veterans. As you know, many veterans thrive in Carlsbad. I also would like to see
more bike trails, so I am naturally excited about this project.
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Something relating to veterans. Some sort of patriotic or military theme. These are just
modern art pieces that dont relate to veterans.
nuance of the form cast shadow paths
visual impact as experienced from other pause points in the park/landscape/relative scale of
sculptures in relation to one another
variety of entry points to human experiences Sculptural Finish: Reflects light vs absorbs light:
Consider expressively brushed steel ( ie Rickey) over rust (steel would create a greater visual
contrast ,impact and presence) vs. ability to identify rust finish within larger park
environment) silent hark to mark-making, reflection, brilliance over a dark uniform finish
weathered by elements illustrating the ongoing impact of elements/decay
Something inviting and representative of past, present and future of veteran's who have
served and are still with us.
Thank you for the lovely concepts and desire to honor our vets and Carlsbad.
Consider the importance of reflection, not just passing through or walking past an
"interesting" structure. The Ring to me feels like the strongest candidate because the way it's
structured (even without a bench) invites more pause and contemplation, and with the
bench, a space is provided for a meditative and engaging experience, especially with that
window to our ocean view. It's important to have something somewhat unique that brings
people to the park even specifically to have that space of reflection. A design that works
naturally with the park and nature spaces is important, without overly blending into the
existing environment. Staying strongly rooted to the goal of honoring and reflecting the
sacrifices and service of veterans and troops is important, especially something that signifies
the history (generations) of those who gave/give all. It's also important that the design is a
space where not just civilians can reflect but service members can go to and feel at peace,
honored, and respected.
A statue of a soldier/sailor/flyer/marine. Look at Soldier Field in Chicago. It has a WWI soldier
in front of a U.S. flag. Simple but makes the point It also features a fountain wall featuring
Navy, Army, Marine, Air Force and Coast Guard emblems. Again, simple but at least not some
weird abstract that has park visitors guessing.
The laid back, peaceful, yet thriving, vibe of Carlsbad and the surrounding coastal towns. I an
a 74 year old San Diego State Art student, majoring in Studio art with an emphasis on
Sculpture.
I'm voting for the ring and I like its color but I think there might be room for some
ornamentation on the outside or the inside of the Ring itself
Definitely a placard explaining the significance behind the chosen design.
Accessibility. The current paths to the hilltop are too rough.
Vegetation. It would be attractive to have native and colorful plants.
Seating. One needs a rest after the climb, and for reflection. I prefer long stone steps or
natural boulders (carefully chosen) over benches.
More seating.
I would go with the piece that does not invite graffiti, climbing and vandalism of the art. I love
sitting and enjoying views in a quiet space, so please include that
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Maybe shelter covers to picnic under
As a female veteran, I personally feel the need to acknowledge honoring female Veterans in a
monument of its own. Creating monuments to honor female veterans is essential to ensuring
their stories, sacrifices, and contributions are visibly and permanently recognized in our
national memory. For too long, women’s roles in the military have been underrepresented in
public spaces and historical narratives. Monuments serve as powerful symbols of respect and
gratitude, educating future generations and inspiring pride in all who see them. By building
these memorials, we affirm the value of every woman’s service and ensure that their legacy
stands alongside their male counterparts—equally honored, equally remembered, and never
forgotten. Honoring female veterans in a memorial is vital not only to acknowledge their
service and sacrifice but also to preserve a fuller, more accurate narrative of our nation’s
history. Respectfully, Rocio Villanueva
I believe that the artist was selected for their experience in creating public art installations.
But the artist was not selected for the quality of their concept, their art in general, their
historical context, or relationship to the broader art world. This artist has never shown in a
museum nor is in the collection of any museum. The value of the work is the value of the
materials and the artist in creating it only. People will visit this park to visit a park, not to visit
the artistic memorial. I would recommend identifying an artist that is validated in the global
art context by museums, curators, art collectors, and art professionals. Then, people will visit
the artwork to see their thoughtful creation and appreciate the artwork, the site, and the
meaning behind it.
Stability of material i think needs to be considered.
we like it now
When I think of something that honors the military, I think of the art pieces near the Safety
Center that honor the police and firefighter. It is very clear who those pieces represent, and
they honor the courage and commitment of our brave police and firefighters. I don't feel any
of these pieces do that for our military. I'm a proud Marine Corps veteran myself, and wife of
a USMC veteran and daughter of a retired Marine.
Something that doesn’t obstruct the view
Consider how design fits into nature without blocking open space for people to move through
and around the structure.
Consider the flow of visitors to the park...the arch seems to have an openness and people can
flow through with ease
Hopefully there will be nearby seating to view the art work.
Installation of a Peace Pole
This last one makes some sense bu needs changing to reflect all services including the Space
Force
Our ocean and natural landscape is the beauty we need to protect. Less is more.
None of these concepts really represents anything military.
Maybe the symbols of each branch of the military services.
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I was on the subcommittee which selected Gordon Huether as the city's artist for this park.
While these designs are unique, they do not suggest or honor military service. The designs
could be improved by depicting one or several service members, or our flag. At least one of
the designs will invite people to "climb" the arches or the poles, which is contrary to the
design's purpose. I suggest modifying the designs to depict one or more service members,
reflecting upon peace, life or other eternal values.
The orientation of the design would be important, especially The Ring. Please consider that
people who live along the California coast like watching sunsets.
How well does this fit in with nature is it intrusive or does it blend in? Is it too tall or is it just
right for the setting as is the circle.
Walking trails and picnic table areas scattered throughout
Thank you for your incredible designs and your hear for honoring veterans!!!
I believe a single flagpole with a U.S. holiday flag, and 24-hour lights, would be appropriate
for the upper plateau. It could be seen from many areas of Carlsbad.
Areas to sit in peace and quiet.
An outer circle surrounding the tribute with low maintenance indigenous/hardy plants with
small placards identifying the plant and possible symbolic meaning ie the strength of the
plant to withstand stand the challenge of elements etc
consider the purpose of our military and the veterans; perhaps incorporate a receptacle for
donations for veterans housing and mental health
I love this park the way it is....don't feel it's necessary to develop in any way. Actually
disappointed that you'll interfere with nature. Real preference would be to leave this entire
space alone but if you have to build something I prefer the arch.
To somehow incorporate the fact that both men and women serve. The protective factor of
the military with the goal of peace for all people.
To have seating available at the design
The Ring
Night lighting.
Nothing the ring is beautiful concept.
A Statue, of symbolism of the Armed Services and strength and Glory, add the Lone Sailor
looking over the Ocean several Cities has the Lone Sailor it would look nice in Carlsbad,
develope something we all could understand but not an Arch or a circle and not Spikes these
designs are not good and we are a Veterans household.
Visible from distance
Metal will become very hot. Children might burn their hands. With seating consider a shade
cover or large tree for shade to not burn yourself or your but.
Consider the experience of the Vietnam Wall in DC, which eventually added the Soldiers'
statue, since the design seemed to be missing something. Vets were then satisfied..
Go with the ring!
Number 2 is by far the best representation for the purpose of this public art.
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Remember the Bars
I worry about public art sculptures being treated like the Cardiff Kook. That's always at the
back of my mind. Have a design that perceived as out of step with the public invites this sort
of unwanted vandalism. I worry that the spiky design, for example, will invite this kind of
public mockery. Unless you'd like to wake up every morning to wonder if there are giant
marshmallows or hot dogs on the ends of those points.
Communicate a sense of timeless peace, valor and gratitude from the community. These
designs are too modern, no plants/trees, no benches
They don't inspire me
Choose the ring!!!
Go with the ring.
I hope they do build up those berms around the artwork. I am not sure if that is just for the
illustration, but it would be nice to have that varied landscape around the sculptures.
Nothing
Carlsbad artists and themes
I personally think the second design is gorgeous and needs no alteration. It is stunning in its
simplicity.
Feel that the art installation should allow for multiple visitors to comfortably enjoy the space.
I do not feel any of them reflect that they are honoring the military.
How people will interact with it
Places/benches to sit that seniors can get out 0f easily , arm rests, not too low...
Benches
Restroom
Parking
Accessible
Shade
All of these installations are simplistic and nowhere near close to defining Carlsbad. Frankly
middle schoolers could do better and maybe that's who you should have asked, because that
is their future.
I love the circle option. The arch is second best. Please do not go with the “sticks.”
A design that incorporates the lagoon, ocean and setting sun would be very good.
A sculpture large enough to accommodate a large amount of visitor interaction at one time.
Use colors that are complementary to the natural surroundings. Provide a sign or plaque that
clearly states the purpose/intent of the design (like the descriptions provided in this survey).
Wood or 'warmer' building materials.
Consider how the lighting changes throughout the day affect the color of the art along with
the changing colors of the foliage and grasses throughout the year.
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Over the years, I have visited several important military sites with public art (including two
visits to Normandy, one very recent) and have seen meaningful public art installations. I
remember the uproar in our community re "Split Pavilion" and urge staff to carefully consider
input then make adjustments and present the three options again, perhaps not in the same
format as this but in such a way that fosters inclusion in the process.
Color -- I don't like the orange colors because those do not match with any of our military
services. Probably because I'm retired/disabled Navy, I would prefer a bright rich blue for the
spires. Air Force veterans would like that as well. Please: No orange or brown!
seek input from local artists/local college art departments in the area
Love the Ring, wouldn't change a thing.
Something that reflects the tenants of being a. Veteran sacrifice, honor, patriotism
I want the final design to clearly honor military service and tradition, directly acknowledge
that dedication, and meaningfully show our appreciation for their actions. None of the three
proposed designs achieve those things. They also do not accomplish the other themes
identified.
Don't develop this park any further. I enjoy the rustic trails just the way it is.
Area of reflection for remembering and calmness.
It’s such a wide open space, it feels we need something weighty like the ring.
Something more specific to veterans - their names or a touch aspect. Maybe Carlsbad
residents could purchase memorial bricks etc. Highlight examples of Carlsbad veterans etc
My first thought was around safety of visitors - could it be climbed/sat on
Please don’t go forward with any of these. They mean nothing to my military family.
The ring is the most beautiful.
This is all tax payer waste of money. I posted on your Facebook post and suggested to leave
as is. This way you have no issue with homeless people and vandalism. Minimal maintenance.
Everyone can enjoy nature and the land. At the end that’s what the vets were fighting for.
Save money, preserve the land.
More veteran themed and more integration with the natural surroundings and history
Please start over. These designs are so depressingly NOT supportive of veterans or their
families. Just because you claim veterans will be memorialized by these “art” pieces doesn’t
make it so.
Something more natural please. Wood, stone, plants etc.
A contemporary replica of our flag.
Unfortunately I think we missed the mark on all 3 designs.
Choose colors associated with the coast which helps support reflection of the sacrifices made
by our veterans
Will there be a plaque honoring our veterans?
The sacrifices of their families. Many of our military are young men with young families. They
make incredible sacrifices too.
Color and description of its symbolism
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don't put anything
I really like what I’ve seen.
Get a new artist there concepts do not reflect veterans are they a veteran if not why not get a
artist who is i bet there are some local
Longevity and ability to clean surface etc
Invest more into Pine Park and the Barrio vs this space that is so far away from where tourists
frequent
Blending into natural setting. Not overly modern.
Places to sit!!! Vietnam widow here!!
Thank you for your work on these concepts!
A plaque describing the symbolism
I really do not get how these honor veterans.
Whether skateboarders would use the RING as a half pipe. And whether teens would
consider climbing the spires of the third option making for a dangerous structure.
The look of a weapon does not create calm and reflection.
Besides considering what residents have to say, consider what other memorial statues use
around the country. Maybe consider something other than wood which will not break down
over time.
No change
Tysen Moore the local community In relationship, Carlsbad has with the military in the
surrounding area
Several benches for reflection.
Go back to the drawing board and design something that represents veterans and Carlsbad.
More landscaping
More glass elements and colors should be incorporated.
Benches on the way up the path
Go more natural and simple with curves and rounds, avoid linear or angular geometry.
for whichever concept is approved, please include a bench or seating for those who would
like to pause for remembrance/ introspection and appreciation for those who served in the
military.
Make sure it doesn't invite birds to leave droppings.
If the intent is for reflection then any winning design needs to incorporate places to
reflect…i.e. seating.
Clearly recognize each branch of our military force.
Please be mindful of the people who will drive by everyday and view the park from the roads
and neighborhoods/golf course.
I come from a long line of many male relatives who have served, including my grandfather
(Army, WWI), father(pilot WWII, Korean War), (son (Navy, War in Afghanistan), and my
grandson (currently in South Korea, Army). I also have relatives that served in the Marines
(Vietnam) that didn't come home. That is what best describes me when I see memorials.
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I would consider the durability and safety of the materials being used. How can the city deter
vandalism and how much maintenance the deigns will require.
As someone who came to live here due to the USMC I believe Carlsbad has always
represented the flow, the tides, a connection to the land and sea. These are thoughtful
designs but I really loved design B.
Easy Handicap access.
I was a proponent of making a more functional park with activities to do versus a place to
wander around and contemplate. So, I would not put as much space and focus around
passive areas like art exhibits (my two cents).
A plaque about the sacrifices of veterans
Please consider whether visitors, the general population, would FEEL this monument picture
worthy and memorable for their camera, not just what it looks like in person. And when they
show their friends and families these images, they can pass on the story that their audience
can see the correlation between the story and the images. What makes something
memorable are the emotions evoked while seeing or hearing about something.
Prefer Less abstract. Would prefer to honor military in a more direct way. Include historical
information for public education.
Don’t like anything about this one
The pink on shade on top doesn't fit with nature. It looks like paint brushes, but perhaps just
on the rendering?
?
Great for photo ops—will bring in tourists and locals. Something kids can safely climb on.
Emergency hydrants.
Would prefer something that fits well with the natural landscape.
I would like the artist to consider how we remind future generations of the sacrifices made by
those who came before us. How can service ve communicated by the art not just used as an
inspirational force in the design?
A series of informational stations that tell the story of military history in the area.
If the structure was meant to encourage reflection, should we have more seating benches
around the it so people can sit and reflect?
11:11:11 recognized. Honor the unique gifts of Carlsbad, the coast, ocean, hill.
Natural, sustainable products. Cohesiveness with nature. Connection with Agua Hedionda, as
the lagoon is a viewpoint, and everything runs into the watershed. Interpretive Educational
signs on native flora and fauna.
I like the idea of the changing light and glass but this framework doesn't work for me.
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I love the feel and look of the ring design. It conveys strength, unity and invites
contemplation and reflection. I think a stronger tie to the military and the different branches
would make this perfect. This is going on one of my favorite stops to stop and reflect/
contemplate life. It needs to fit the location and the view. The ring has the most organic feel
and would frame the view perfectly
There is no connection with the Veteran's or symbols that evoke any sense of service to our
country or community outside the name “Veterans park”. How can there not be a national
flag on site? We seem to have missed the mark in our desire to present art
An art piece in support of Carlsbad's Veterans Memorial Park has to be an homage to
Veterans. Symbolism must align with the contributions, sacrifices and impact of all Veterans.
Start from scratch.
I think warm colors would be great - not sure if that is decided already.
I like how the ring concept is framed by berms rather than having the structure “floating”.
None of these seem specific to the military — very abstract and I think it misses the point of
honoring military.
Consider a way to lead visitors to the structure and provide more sitting for reflection. Is
there any way to make an interactive experience on any of the designs?
Put some benches nearby
I don’t see flora and fauna in the design concepts. I’m hoping it’s just not typically included in
the concept. I would hate it if the artist is not planning to include landscaping around the
piece of art.
Enhancing the art piece with appropriate native landscaping. Not everyone cares for stark
modern sculpture.
I understand that a memorial park can be reflective, but it should also be interactive. The
root word for interactive is ACT. We need art that allows and invites residents to touch, sit
climb, and otherwise engage. It can be functional as well as reflective.
Will there be set hours that the park will be open?
Will there be enough parking for the activities at the park?
If this is used for celebrations (Veterans Day, July 4th) will there be adequate transportation
offered by the city to offset the impact on the residents who live on Whitman Way?
Perhaps benches and shaded areas for reflection
An art installment that really encourages people to stop and contemplate. The space would
be an optimum use of the opportunity in my opinion.
If the ring is made out of metal and naturally rusts/corrodes that might be a good look down
the road.
A design that actually makes reference to those who served
Would like to see the designs with more depth and character for our veterans.
It may be nice for more seating or a landing that wraps around the circle art piece to be
provided so more visitors can engage simultaneously in reflection.
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I am so sorry to share such unsupportive comments, but I really think none of these serve the
purpose that the community -- and the park concept -- envisioned. I have shared meals in the
home of a family who lost their young son in active duty, have a family member of my own
who brought the war back with him and due to his PTSD, eventually took his own life, and
have many other family members who have served and are currently serving who, I am
certain, would not find any of these concepts reflective of having the goal of to honor military
service. I understand that this is a park, inclusive of recreation for a variety of families and
visitors, but if we choose to call it "Veteran's Memorial Park," at a minimum, it needs to be
respectful of that concept. For those who are reviewing these concepts, perhaps spend some
time at Fort Rosecrans or the newer Miramar Memorial Cemetery, if for nothing else but to
capture the emotion of those places. It seems the artist must, in part, figure out how to
capture the spirit and provide that level of honor and respect if we are to truly call this
"Veterans Memorial Park." (While the boxes below do not allow "multiple checks of all that
apply," I am a family member of both veterans and of those currently serving in the military,
including the Army, Marine Corps, Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard.) None of these three
options would come close to the pride and deep respect I have for these individuals -- nor
would I encourage them to visit as I do not feel any sense of having honored them by these
design options. I hope there is a chance to do better. Clearly, the artist is talented, but this
design, in my opinion, needs to be more than just an interesting public art piece. It truly
needs to evoke the spirit of pride and honor to our veterans in what we are calling "Veterans
Memorial Park." Otherwise, perhaps some benches with no public art piece would be a
better alternative, than something, that honestly, seems disrespectful to me.
Not sure
I appreciate all of the efforts that are made to include residents, community groups, and city
staff in the process.
A way to protect it from vandalism that is esthetically pleasing
Select concept B.
The beauty and symmetry of the landscape encircled by the ring as seen by the bench.
Position ring for the best view all year long. Hope it has view of ocean.
Something that reflects without a doubt its about Veteran's Service.
Remember The Bars fiasco
The past of the area and, the feeling and atmosphere (unity of its people) of Carlsbad village
and beach. I know a wave is corny but can that idea be encompassed in an abstract way?
Consider optimum location to take advantage of views.
Veterans being named on a wall like Vietnam wall
Add more benches.
I hike the park frequently and have always enjoyed the views, the natural environment as
well as the peacefulness. Consideration for the different branches, peaceful reflection (the
area with the view is extremely conducive to this), and to have the color(s) blend with the
environment (whatever materials being used) would be ideal to me.
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Plant trees. Do not waste money on such meaningless crap. A grove would be a better
option, definitely more inspiring and more appropriate for a park.
Have a place to sit down and take in the scenery and the natural beauty of the park. The
circle provide such a place.
Back to the drawing board. Nothing is appealing nor do any of the concepts satisfy any of the
scored criteria.
Surely you can come up with something more traditional and meaningful. This kind of
"modern" art doesn't fit in Carlsbad. Although they do fit in with the current "Cold War era"
design and colors of the recent condo construction in the city. So depressing looking...
consider symbols of the Armed Forces. honor the military with military symbols.
If the goals include an invitation to engagement, encouragement to reflect, and to engender
honor and respect, then shouldn't the piece allow space, serenity and facility toward those
ends?
native plants
The color shoud better reflect the ocean or park's colors.
None of these reflect the natural setting, nor the character and values of Carlsbad or the
military.
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9. Which of the following best describes you?
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10. Which branch of the military do/did you or a family member serve in?
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11. Please tell us where you live.
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12. What is your age range?
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VETART – Veterans Art Project meeting
Date: June 13, 2025
Time: 6 to 8 p.m.
Location: 2422 Cades Way, Vista, CA
Participants: ~40
Discussion highlights by concept
The Arch
• Some participants appreciated the Arch’s multicultural and heritage symbolism,
describing it as a welcoming form that works well with the landscape.
• One suggestion was to modify the design to include six anchor points, with each point
representing a military branch.
• Safety concerns were raised about children climbing the Arch.
• Some felt the design lacked human connection and suggested incorporating faces or
figures representing service members, such as a sailor or soldier.
• There were recommendations to include a plaque or signage to help explain the
design’s meaning and help viewers connect the piece to military service.
• One participant referenced memorials in Washington, D.C., that include images of each
branch for clearer identification.
The Ring
• Several participants preferred the Ring over the other options.
• One person compared the Ring to the experience of seeing ships, aircraft or loved ones
returning from deployment on the horizon—describing it as reflective of that emotional
moment.
• Another participant said the Ring invited them to reflect on people they had lost,
creating a contemplative space.
• There were concerns about potential vandalism, especially from kids.
• One participant noted that younger visitors may struggle to understand the meaning
without interpretive signage.
Spires
• No specific feedback was provided on this concept during this session.
Overall observations and recommendations
• Participants questioned how any of the three designs reflected the military or the
themes identified for the project.
• Suggestions included:
o Adding human-sized representations of each branch.
o Incorporating statues or other concrete symbols to help people connect
emotionally with the piece.
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o Providing interpretive signage or plaques to explain the meaning and help foster
respect for the memorial.
• Concerns about vandalism and durability were raised, including how long it would take
to replace any damaged glass elements.
• One participant noted that adding recognizable symbols or concrete representations
could help reduce vandalism by fostering greater public respect.
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Marine Corps League, Camp J H Pendleton, Detachment 21 meeting
Date: June 19, 2025
Time: 6 to 8 p.m.
Location: Veterans Association of North County, 1617 Mission Ave, Oceanside, CA 92058
Participants: 11
Discussion highlights by concept
The Arch
• Several participants asked if there would be any visual elements or inscriptions on the
interior or exterior of the arch to represent military branches or different generations of
service.
• Suggestions included adding the founding date of the country at the top and listing key
battles radiating outward, with military seals on the exterior.
• Some felt the current shape was too oval and didn’t read clearly as an “arch.”
• Concern that a rubberized ground surface could make the area seem like a play space
for kids.
• Positive feedback on the overall size of the design.
The Ring
• Mixed reactions. Some appreciated its peaceful, contemplative quality, noting the
“portal effect” and how it frames views of the lagoon.
• Others felt it lacked a clear connection to military service or history.
• One participant commented that skateboarders might be drawn to it.
• A few felt the meaning might only be fully understood from the artist’s perspective.
• One person mentioned it could be more appropriate at a place like West Point or
Annapolis.
Spires
• Several participants found this design too busy or chaotic, with one saying it looked like
“a bomb went off.”
• Some noted its resemblance to the Air Force Memorial in Washington, D.C.
• Overall, participants did not feel the Spires conveyed a sense of military reflection or
respect.
Overall observations and recommendations
• Some felt that too much abstract thought was being put into the designs, making them
feel disconnected from the intended audience—veterans and their families.
• A common theme was that none of the designs fully captured the essence of military
service or sacrifice.
• Participants recommended the artist visit national military memorials, including the
Marine Corps Museum near Washington, D.C., for inspiration and perspective.
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• Several people expressed interest in blending design elements from different concepts
or adding features over time, especially if budget constraints are a factor.
• Some suggested including a bald eagle or other national symbols within the artwork.
• There was interest in incorporating a timeline or history wall, leaving space for future
conflicts and service recognition.
• Materials were a concern. Participants recommended using something durable that
discourages climbing and can withstand outdoor elements.
• One participant suggested exploring alternative materials to steel due to cost.
• Overall, participants wanted the final design to reflect all generations of service, from
World War II through more recent conflicts, and to feel personal and meaningful to
those who served.
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Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Committee meeting
Date: June 20, 2025
Time: 8 to 9 a.m.
Location: Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, 5934 Priestly Drive, Carlsbad, CA 92008
Participants: 12
Discussion highlights by concept
The Arch
• Questions about the width at the top and whether the design represents all five military
branches.
• Some participants asked how long the renderings would remain available for public
viewing.
• A few referenced the city’s previous “The Bars” public art piece, noting how polarizing
that had been.
• Concerns about safety and liability if kids or mountain bikers try to climb or scale the
structure.
o One parent with four children said, “They will try.”
• A veteran shared that walking through the Arch didn’t feel meaningful or exciting from a
military perspective.
o Asked how storytelling would be conveyed.
o Suggested including a plaque explaining the design’s meaning and connection to
service.
• Several participants said they didn’t see the military represented in the design.
• One person commented that it looked like “a person doing a backbend or yoga pose.”
• Suggestions included:
o Adding flags or branch seals on the interior.
o Providing a clear statement linking the design to the military.
o Making the structure taller and steeper to discourage climbing.
o Enlarging the cutouts to reduce the “claustrophobic” feel.
o Adding two more legs to represent six branches and reduce the human-like
shape.
The Ring
• Overall, participants liked the Ring better than the other designs.
• Suggested building a full-size temporary model or using inexpensive materials to create
a mock-up for public viewing and feedback.
o Described as a small investment compared to the overall project budget.
• Some felt the Ring was a beautiful piece, but still lacked a clear military connection.
• One Marine Corps veteran (32 years of service) noted that none of the concepts so far
felt reflective of the military.
• Suggestions included:
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o Adding a plaque explaining the design’s intent and symbolism.
o Raising the bottom edge by at least two inches to discourage skateboarders.
o Incorporating a common military symbol, such as the American flag.
o Considering design elements that interact with Carlsbad’s sunsets for visual
impact and photography opportunities.
o Being mindful of sight lines, especially views toward Agua Hedionda Lagoon and
nearby power lines.
o Referencing a class ring from one of the service academies as an inspiration
point.
Spires
• Concerns about climb-ability and safety, especially with the glass element.
• Some said this concept looked even more climbable than the others.
• Participants debated whether the Spires should incorporate different colors, insignia or
etched representations of each military branch.
• Mixed opinions on etching the glass—some felt it would detract from the artist’s vision,
while others thought it would help communicate meaning.
• Suggestions included:
o Adding branch emblems or designating each spire for a different branch.
o Providing a plaque to explain the design and artist’s intent.
o Considering the visual impact from surrounding roadways, including Faraday
Avenue and The Crossings golf course.
o Noting that the glass could attract vandalism, like throwing objects onto it.
o Asking about the structural strength and load-bearing capacity of the glass, given
concerns about people climbing it.
• Several participants said the Spires conveyed more meaning than the other two designs
but still needed clearer educational elements.
Overall observations and recommendations
• Request to include POW/MIA flags in future renderings of the Memorial Plaza.
• When asked which design they gravitated toward, some leaned toward the Spires for its
potential to represent the branches.
• One participant suggested scrapping all three concepts and starting over.
• A comment noted that the Carlsbad gateway sign is currently the city’s most iconic
landmark, and this memorial could become similarly recognizable.
• Appreciation expressed for the thought and care going into the project.
• One participant asked whether the park would include any reference to Native
American history or heritage.
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From:Rick Huenefeld
To:City Clerk
Subject:Veterans Memorial Art Installation
Date:Wednesday, October 1, 2025 7:05:29 PM
I certainly respect the good intentions and work of the artists, but I don’t think any of the options are particularly
good. In my opinion, fully understanding my lack of artistic talent I’d suggest that the right sculpture shouldn’t
require a sign to explain what it is - you should see it, and have a sense of what it represents. I don’t think any of
these options ‘say’ service, sacrifice, commitment, courage. Again, not an artist - but I served over 40 years on
active duty in the Armed Forces - and that life I do know.
If the time for new options has passed I’m sure the City Council will do their best to select from these choices, and
we’ll all be proud of the final result.
Carl F. Huenefeld
4305 Skyline Rd, Carlsbad
Colonel, USMC (Ret)
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From:carol cox
To:City Clerk
Subject:Art piece
Date:Thursday, October 2, 2025 8:48:49 AM
Please don’t block the view of the ocean with a man made piece of concrete. Give the art piece it’s own focus.
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Veterans Memorial Park
Public Art
Craddock Stropes, Library & Cultural Arts
Nick Stupin, Park Planning Manager
City Council
Oct.7, 2025
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Adopt a resolution approving the final public
art design concept by Gordon Huether &
Partners, Inc. for the permanent public art at
Veterans Memorial Park, Capital Improvement
Project No. 4609
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2018 - Design process started
•Significant public
outreach
2022 - Master Plan adopted
2025 - Covenants declared
93.7 acres & centrally located
Undeveloped land with steep slopes
Surrounded by habitat
BACKGROUND
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PARK FEATURES
•Walls and walkways
•Paths and trail
connections
•Nature-inspired bike
park
•Playgrounds/outdoor
fitness
•Memorial Plaza
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•Collaborative design process
•Memorial panels
•Bronze inlays
•American flag
North Side of Park
•ADA Parking
•Restrooms
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COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC ART
•Carlsbad Municipal Code Section 2.18.110 requires certain
construction projects to include an amount for works of art
equal to at least 1% of the total cost of any such construction
project as estimated in the city’s capital improvement
program.
•Art in Public Places Program, established 1986
•Arts Commission
•Public Art Advisory Subcommittee
•Alignment to approved policy documents
•General Plan
•Arts & Culture Master Plan
•5-Year Strategic Plan 7
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HOW WE GOT HERE
Spring
2022
June 2024
Artist selected by
Public Art Advisory
Subcommittee
August 2025
•Final design concept
shared with public
•Arts Commission
recommended
City Council approval
October 2025
City Council considers
final design concept
Spring 2025
Input on three
design concepts
Summer 2023
Input on community
values for the public art
July 2022
City Council
adopted Veterans
Park Master Plan
Late Summer 2023
Call for Artists
released
Fall
2025
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WHAT WE HEARD – PHASE 1 (2023)
Honoring military service
Telling a meaningful story
Encouraging reflection and respect
Reflecting the unique character and values of the Carlsbad community
Inviting engagement
Fitting into the park’s natural setting
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GORDON HUETHER WORKS
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IN HONOR OF THE FALLEN
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK
9/11 MEMORIAL GARDEN
NAPA, CA
ETERNAL FLAME
ATLANTA, GA
RIBBON
DUBLIN, CA
OCULUS
FORT WAYNE, IN
INFINITY
NAPA, CA
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HOW INPUT OPPORTUNITIES WERE PROMOTED
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ONLINE SURVEY PARTICIPATION
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Open April 24 – June 4, 2025
•589 respondents
•59% veterans or family members of veterans
•25% first time hearing about this project
•88% Carlsbad residents
•12% work in or frequently visit Carlsbad
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MEETINGS WITH VETERANS GROUPS
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•VETART, Veterans Art Project
•Marine Corps League, Camp J H Pendleton, Detachment 21
•Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce Military Affairs Committee
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To what extent do you agree that this concept reflects each of the
following themes identified by the community? (on a scale of 1 –5)
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WHAT WE HEARD – PHASE 2 (2025)
Desire for clear military symbolism
Interest in creating a space for reflection
Concerns about safety, ADA accessibility and durability
Appreciation for designs that fit into the natural setting
Suggestions to enhance storytelling
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THE RING ITEM 6: VETERANS PARK PUBLIC ART
NEXT STEPS
•Detailed construction drawings and specifications
will be finalized.
•A contract for fabrication of the approved artwork
by Gordon Huether & Partners, Inc. will be
provided for City Council review and approval at a
future date.
•Installation will be coordinated with the
anticipated construction schedule of the park.
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ITEM 6: VETERANS PARK PUBLIC ART
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Adopt a resolution approving the final public
art design concept by Gordon Huether &
Partners, Inc. for the permanent public art at
Veterans Memorial Park, Capital Improvement
Project No. 4609.
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