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Home My WebLink AboutCT 14-10; POINSETTIA 61; SIZING DOMESTIC METERS AND PRIVATE DOMESTIC DISTRIBUTION PIPING; 2018-08-17( .. -· POINSETTIA 61 PHASE 1 c·, \4 -10 / vwG s o1-z e CITY OF CARLSBAD DESIGN CALCULATIONS FOR: SIZING DOMESTIC METERS AND PRIVATE DOMESTIC DISTRIBUTION PIPING August 17, 2018 Prepared by: Dexter Wilson Engineering, Inc. 2234 Faraday Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 (760) 438-4422 Job No. 663-057 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing Domestic Meter Sizing August 17, 2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. A single master domestic meter is proposed for each Drive Aisle within the Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 development. All but one Drive Aisle have six (6) dwelling units which will be served by the single master domestic water meter. One Drive Aisle has only five (5) dwelling units. The approach to sizing the domestic water meter is as follows: 1. Determine the Water Fixture Unit count for each dwelling unit floor plan. Attached to this calculation package are the floor plans for all four (4) different dwelling unit products proposed for Poinsettia 61 Phase 1, including their variations. Spreadsheets, attached, summarize the Water Fixture Unit count as follows: a. Plan 1 -30 WFUs b. Plan 2 -33 WFUs c. Plan 3 -29 WFUs d. Plan 4 -51 WFUs 2. Use the Precise Grading Plan to determine the number of each dwelling unit plan along each Drive Aisle. Attached are reduced size plan sheets from the Precise Grading Plan showing the dwelling unit layout for each Drive Aisle. 3. Sum the Water Fixture Unit count for all the dwelling units on a Drive Aisle. 4 . Using the 2016 California Plumbing Code, Chart A 103.1 (2), attached, convert total Water Fixture Unit counts to Demand in gallons per minute (gpm). 5. To this Demand, add the irrigation demand allowance of 4 gpm per dwelling unit. The irrigation demand allowance was estimated by the landscape architect for the Poinsettia 61 project. See the attached email which provides the back-up data for Page 2 of 7 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing the 4 gpm per dwelling unit estimate. August 17, 2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. 6. Compare the total Water Demand (Water Fixture Unit demand plus irrigation demand) to the allowable domestic meter capacities as outlined in the attached email from Mario Remillard, Carlsbad Municipal Water District, to determine the proper domestic meter size. 7. For all Drive Aisles within the Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 development, the domestic master meter size is 1-1/2-inch. 8. Each 1-1/2-inch domestic water meter shall be followed by a 1-1/2-inch reduced pressure principle backflow preventer assembly. 9. After the backflow assembly, the piping becomes the private domestic distribution piping to be constructed in the Drive Aisle. The sizing of this private domestic distribution piping is presented in the following section of these calculations. Page 3 of 7 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing Private Domestic Distribution Pipe Sizing August17,2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. The private domestic distribution pipe sizing will follow the methodology outlined in the 2016 California Plumbing Code, Appendix A-Recommended Rules for Sizing the Water Supply System, Sections A 102.0 through A 105.0. The private domestic distribution pipe sizing will be calculated for the Drive Aisle with the greatest Water Demand. This is Drive Aisle 'M' on Sheet 10 of 10 of the Precise Grading Plan for Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 (attached to these calculations). This calculation of the required size for the private domestic distribution pipe is conservative in that the Water Demand is assumed to be flowing to the furthest dwelling unit. We know this is not the case as the Water Demand will decrease in the private domestic distribution piping as service laterals extend to each dwelling unit. Page 4 of 7 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing Private Domestic Distribution Sumil~ Size August 17, 2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. Each Drive Aisle will be provided with a 2" water service and 1- 1/2" domestic water meter. Water Demand 93 gpm Water Pressure Zone hydraulic grade line 550 ft Operating hydraulic grade line 540 ft Building finish floor elevation 243.6 feet Highest expected fixture elevation 263.6 feet Pressure needed at highest fixture 24 psi Elevation at domestic water service at the street 240 feet Pressure at the street 130.0 psi Pressure loss due to elevation gain 10.2 psi 1-1/2" meter pressure loss at 93 gpm 14 psi 1-1 /2" RP Backflow pressure loss at 93 gpm 11 psi Available pressure loss for building supply piping = 70.8 psi Street Pressure -Press at Fixture -Elev gain -Meter loss - Backflow loss Developed Pipe Length Estimated length inside building 50 feet From building to street 200 feet Page 5 of 7 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing Total Then Friction Loss is: 70.8 250 = August 17, 2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. 250 feet 28.3 psi/100 feet Using Chart A 105.1 (2), required minimum pipe diameter is: 2 inch Specify 2-inch Schedule 40 PVC solvent welded pipe and fittings. Pipe is rated for 280 psi. Page 6 of 7 Poinsettia 61 Phase 1 Domestic Water Service System Sizing August17,2018 Dexter Wilson Eng., Inc. Poinsettia 61 Domestic System Recommendations 1. Master domestic meter size for all the Drive Aisles in Phase 1 shall be 1-1/2-inch. 2. Water service lateral for each master meter shall be 2-inch. 3. Reduced pressure principle backflow preventer after the master domestic meter shall be 1-1/2-inch. 4. Private domestic water distribution pipe in the Drive Aisle after the backflow preventer shall be minimum 2-inch. 5. Water service lateral to each dwelling unit shall be minimum 1-inch or as sized by the fire sprinkler designer. Page 7 of 7 APPENDIX A Fairly Smooth CHART A 105.1 (2) 6000 5000 b-'~--+---:!kr"'l--+'rl-+-'H i.,t.-_-_"\,.,, _--.t-::.~::;.?..~':.-:,t:_-+-t-\:~~-·\:---t,,,C----t,r-:7""+-rb>!'9-I 1000 0.1 FRICTION LOSS IN HEAD (pounds-force per square Inch) PER 1 00•FOOT For SI units: I inch= 25 mm, I gallon per minute= 0.06 Us, I pound-force per square inch = 6.8947 a, I foot= 304.8 mm, I foot per second = 0.3048 mis P1'...a.se I 2016 CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE 600 300 200 20 10 6 « i ::, C E ... !. Cl) C 0 _g q3 ,:: g Jfht IL 369 Project Name Job Number Date Poinsettia 61 663-057 811512018 Water Fixture Units The basis for the Water Fixture Units is "Private" per the 2016 California Plumbing Code. DESCRIPTION CLOTHES WASHER LAUNDRY SINK TUB/SHOWER SHOWER KITCHEN SINK DISHWASHER LAVATORY WATER CLOSET (1.6 GPF) HOSE BIBB EACH ADDTL HB OTHER TOTAL PLAN 1A FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1.5 0 1 4 4 2 2 4 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 4 1 4 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 0 30 \\ARTIC\Eng\663057\WaterFixtureUnitEstim ate-2018-08-14/Sheet1 PLAN 1B PLAN 1C FIXTURE TOTAL FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1 4 4 1.5 0 1.5 0 1 4 4 1 4 4 2 2 4 2 2 4 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 4 1 4 4 1 4 3 2.5 7.5 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 30 30 Project Name Job Number Date Poinsettia 61 DESCRIPTION CLOTHES WASHER LAUNDRY SINK TUB/SHOWER SHOWER KITCHEN SINK DISHWASHER LAVATORY 663-057 8/15/2018 WATER CLOSET (1.6 GPF) HOSE BIBB EACH ADDTL HB OTHER TOTAL PLAN 2A FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1.5 0 2 4 8 1 2 2 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 5 1 5 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 0 33 \IARTIC\Eng\663057\WaterFixtureUnitEstimate-2018-08-14/Sheet1 PLAN 2B PLAN 2C FIXTURE TOTAL FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1 4 4 1.5 0 1.5 0 2 4 8 2 4 8 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 5 1 5 5 1 5 3 2.5 7.5 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 33 33 Project Name Job Number Date Poinsettia 61 DESCRIPTION CLOTHES WASHER LAUNDRY SINK TUB/SHOWER SHOWER KITCHEN SINK DISHWASHER LAVATORY 663-057 8/15/2018 WATER CLOSET (1.6 GPF) HOSE BIBB EACH ADDTL HB OTHER TOTAL PLAN 3A FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1.5 0 1 4 4 1 2 2 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 5 1 5 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 0 29 I \ART I C\E ng\66305 71 W aterFixtu reU nitEsti m ate-2018-08-14/Sheet 1 PLAN 38 PLAN 3C FIXTURE TOTAL FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS EACH UNITS 1 4 4 1 4 4 1.5 0 1.5 0 1 4 4 1 4 4 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 5 1 5 5 1 5 3 2.5 7.5 3 2.5 7.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 29 29 Project Name Poinsettia 61 Job Number Date DESCRIPTION CLOTHES WASHER LAUNDRY SINK TUB/SHOWER SHOWER KITCHEN SINK DISHWASHER LAVATORY 663-057 8/15/2018 WATER CLOSET (1.6 GPF) HOSE BIBB EACH ADDTL HB OTHER TOTAL PLAN 4A FIXTURE TOTAL QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS 2 4 8 1 1.5 1.5 3 4 12 1 2 2 2 1.5 3 1 1.5 1.5 7 1 7 5 2.5 12.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 0 51 \IARTIC\Eng\663057\W aterFixtureUnitEstimate-2018-08-14/Sheet 1 PLAN 4B PLAN 4C FIXTURE TOTAL FIXTURE TOTAL :lUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE QUANTITY UNITS FIXTURE EACH UNITS EACH UNITS 2 4 8 2 4 8 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 3 4 12 3 4 12 1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1.5 3 2 1.5 3 1 1.5 1.5 1 1.5 1.5 7 1 7 7 1 7 5 2.5 12.5 5 2.5 12.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 2.5 2.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 51 51 Andrew Oven From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Hi Andrew, Faye Pokletar <fpok1etar@c2collaborative.com> Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:36 AM Andrew Oven Chik Alan (Alan.Chik@lennar.com); George O'Day (Georgeo@odayconsultant s.com) FW: Poinsettia Potable water meters Please see Scott's response below. Best, Faye Pokletar Principal C21Collaborative 416 North El Camino Real San Clemente, CA 92672 949.366.6624 C2col laborative.com Think Green. Please print only if necessary. From: Scott Lindner [mailto:scott@aci-irrigation.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:59 AM To: Faye Pokletar Subject: Re: Poinsettia Potable water meters Hi Faye, It looks like most yards have about 1000 sq.ft. of backyard landscaping. We figured 1/3rd in turf and the rest in moderate water use plantings, and we came up with a calculated peak minimum required flow of less than 1 gpm (0.7gpm) over an 8 hour period, irrigated 3 days a week. That's said, no one is going to install 1 gpm valve systems, so we have to look at the flow necessary to irrigate ~300 sf of turf, and ~100 sf of drip irrigated plantings on valve systems. These should equal approximately 4 gpm for the turf and 3 gpm for the plantings. Irrigation of these would occur sequentially, so peak flow can be considered 4 gpm. Thanks, Scott From: Faye Pokletar Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 4:48 PM To: mailto:scott@aci-irriqation.com Subject: FW: Poinsettia Potable water meters Scott, per Andrew's email below, what would be an estimated max. flowrate for a Poinsettia's site backyard irrigation? Faye Pokletar Principal APPENDIX A » » 366 t C e .. 8. " C _g ~ I Q z "" 2 w Q I C e l " C .2 ~ I Q z ; w Q 500 . 400 - 300 200 1 100 2 0 500 CHART A 103.1(1) ESTIMATE CURVES FOR DEMAND LOAD - . - No. I for system predominanlly for flushometcr valves No. 2 for system predominantly for flush tanks 1000 ' 1500 FIXTURE UNITS 2000 2500 For SI units: I gallon per minute = 0.06 Us 100 80 60 40 20 ... I - 2 I CHART A 103.1(2) ENLARGED SCALE DEMAND LOAD -- - ,· 3000 0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200 220 240 FIXTURE UNITS For SI units: I gallon per minute = 0.06 Us 2016 CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE ValRay Nelson From: Sent: To: Subject: Hi Val Ray, Mario Remillard Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:49 AM ValRay Nelson Meter GPM's Below are the GPM's for the various meter sizes. 5/8 = 0.5 -20 gpm 3/4 = .75 -35 gpm 1" = 1-55 gpm 11/2 PD = 2.5 -120 gpm 11/2 Turbo= 4 -200 gpm 2PD = 2.5 -170 gpm 2 Turbo = 4 -310 gpm Mario Remillard Meter & Customer Services Supervisor/Conservation Coordinator Carlsbad Municipal Water District 5950 El Camino Real Carlsbad, Ca 92008 760-438-2722 Ext. 7153 l_carlsbad Municipal Water District 1 C2 !Col laborati ve 416 North El Camino Real San Clemente, CA 92672 949.366.6624 C2collaborative.com Think Green. Please print only if necessary From: Andrew Oven [mailto:Andrew@dwilsoneng.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 4:33 PM To: Faye Pokletar; Chik Alan (Alan.Chik@lennar.com); George O'Day (Georgeo@odayconsultants.com) Subject: RE: Poinsettia Potable water meters Faye, Based on the sizes of the back yards of these homes, what would you estimate to be the maximum expected flowrate for a home's backyard irrigation system? Andrew Oven, P.E. Dexter Wilson Engineering, Inc. (760) 438-4422 From: Faye Pokletar <fpokletar@c2collaborative.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:38 PM To: Chik Alan (Alan.Chik@lennar.com) <Alan.Chik@lennar.com>; George O'Day (Georgeo@odayconsultants.com) <Georgeo@odayconsultants.com>; Andrew Oven <Andrew@dwilsoneng.com> Subject: FW: Poinsettia Potable water meters Alan & George, The front yard landscaping is to be irrigated off HOA Potable Meters. See below & attached for previous coordination. Best, Faye Pokletar Principal C21Collaboratlve 416 North El Camino Real San Clemente, CA 92672 949.366.6624 C2collaborative.com Think Green. Please print only if necessary. From: Faye Pokletar Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 3:28 PM To: George O'Day (Georgeo@odayconsultants.com) Subject: FW: Poinsettia Potable water meters Hi George, FYI -Please see below & attached for the coordination of the internal potable meter needs for Poinsettia. Best, 2 -_...,,..l(W'l'~l:Nlt1 ---... .., ....... ,.,., .. _,_ , ;;J:-::' ~-. ~-:,. =----·-· 0 -·-· ~ ~f' :=-=~~~.:, (!iii!!Eli6/f-:0..L--~------ J f ~ -----"" •u1t ... : ,:::::·-... - ,0, _.,,,,,, . --:. i~ I ,, I , ' I ' I ' I ' 1 .. ,.,,;>.. I! 'i" I ~ !, .~q; I ~~ I ' I I "' ffi ' i ~ I C ·r . ! ~: I ~~ ' I ' ~ \ -:... ... -... ~ ' src SHtIT ,o :: = b~ f(l'jJ."f) ~• '-> t.,~;... 161 -' ,, l, I f I f t :-• ir l (='°~-- ! rr G) i(i l 1 I I I ,-'1 I I " I -" 1; T !.: 1n I I d I 1; .n I s~ I I ,-.. 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