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Agenda Bill No. 3240 Supplement No. 1 Date: December 17, 1974
Referred To.
Subject: ,Submitted By:
PROPOSED FIRE STATION NO. 3 City Manager
Statement of the !tatter
During this year's budget disctfssions, a number of questions arose con-
cerning the appropriateness of the location of proposed Fire Station.
No. 3. It was agreed that we would request Gage -Babcock & Associates
to study this matter in more detail than was outlined in their original
report titled, "Report on Cost/Effectiveness Study and Growth Plan
for Fire Defenses, City of Carlsbad, California," and dated December,
1973.
By letter dated October 1, 1974, Glenn D. Peterson of that firm
responded recommending that the City still give positive consideration
to locating Fire Station No. 3 at the corner of El Camino Real and
Chestnut. That letter also sets forth several reasons for that
recommendation.
The Council at its November 19, 1974 meeting instructed the staff
to review the matter further.
Exhibit
1-21-75
Memo 4rom City Manager dated January 15, 1975.
Staff Recommendations to the City Manager
See City Manager recommendations.
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As No. 3240 Supplement No. 1 Late: December 17, 1974
City Manager's Recommendation
The staff has again reviewed the proposal for a temporary location
of a third fire station at the corner of E1 Camino Real and
Chestnut. In reviewing the matter special attention was paid to
the cost of increasing the personnel at the existing fire station
headquarters and the extension of Elm Street versus the temporary
location. The costs in personnel and equipment are identical.
The headquarters fire station could be modified to house additional
equipment and personnel for a cost of approximately $20,000.00
although it would seem wise that any expansion include other
necessary facilities. In addition to the fire station expansion,
the cost of extending Elm Avenue to E1 Camino Real would be
approximately $500,000.00. This includes only the travel ways and
not full improvements including curbs and sidewalks.
Discussions were also held with the City Managers and Fire Chiefs of
both Vista and Oceanside. While they have not conEulted with their
City Councils on the matter, they indicated they would find it difficult
to recommend to their Councils an Immediate Response Agreement for fire
services with the City of Carlsbad if Carlsbad were unable to provide
fire facilities in the eastern portion of the City.
The only cost of locating a temporary fire station at Chestnut and
E1 Camino Real which would.be above the expansion of our capabilities
atthe-headquarter's fire station would be the construction of the
station itself. It is estimated at this time that the cost would be
between $70,000.00 and $90,000.00. It is assumed with careful
planning in the construction of the station, a portion of that
amount can be recovered by the sale of the facility as a housing unit
upon the construction of a permanent station.
it is therefore the staff's recommendation that we proceed with those
steps necessary to locate a station at Chestnut and El Camino Real
by referring the matter to the staff for processing a Conditional
Use Permit through the Planning Commission and City Council.
1-21-75
SEE CITY MANAGER MEMO TO COUNCIL DATED 1-15-75 (ATTACHED)
Council Action.
12-17-74 It was agreed that this matter be continued to the Council
meeting to be held January 7, 1975.
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AB No. 3240 supplement No. 1
Hate: December 17, I974
City 1?anager's Recommendation
SEE ATTACHED MEMO FROM CITY MANAGER
COUnCi T Action
12-17-74 It was agreed that this matter be continued
to the Council meeting to be held January 7, 1975.
1-21-75 The staff was instructed to obtain proposals for
the appraisal of the property located on the southwest
corner of Chestnut and E1 Camino Real, and report back
to the Council at the next regular meeting.
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DATE: JANUARY 15, 1975
TO: CITY COUNCIL
FROM: City Manager
SUBJECT: PROPOSED FIRE STATION NO. 3
In response to the City Council's instructions at its
November 19, 1974 meeting, some of the costs relating to
the construction of the proposed Fire Station No. 3 have
again been reviewed. This review basically addressed
the options outlined in Mr. Peterson's letter dated
October 1, 1974 in which he proposes either the develop-
ment of the fire station on a temporary basis at the
southwest corner of Chestnut and Catalina Drive, or
increased manning at Fire Station No. 1, under conditions
that Elm Street be continued to E1 Camino Real and an
automatic response agreement be executed with neighboring
cities.
In reviewing the matter, special attention was paid to
the cost of increasing the personnel at the existing fire
station headquarters and the extension of Elm Street versus
the temporary location. The cost in personnel and equip-
ment are identical. The headquarters fire station could be
modified to house additional equipment and personnel for a
cost of approximately $20,000.00 to $30,000.00. This is a
minimum cost and it would be wise that any expansion include
consideration of other necessary facilities at that location.
in addition to the fire station expansion, the cost of
extending Elm Avenue to El Camino Real would be approximately
$500,000.00. This includes only the travel way and does not
include parking lanes, curbs, gutters, and sidewalks.
Discussions were also held with the City Managers and Fire
Chiefs of both Vista and Oceanside. While they have not con-
sulted with their City Councils on the matter, they indicated
they would find it difficult to recommend to their councils,
an immediate response agreement for fire services with the
City of Carlsbad if Carlsbad were unable to provide fire
facilities in the eastern portion of the City.
The only cost of locating a temporary fire station at Chestnut
and El Camino Real which would be above the cost of expansion
of our capabilities at the headquarter's fire station, would
be the construction of the station, itself. It is estimated
at this time that the cost would be between $70,000.00 and
$90,000.00. It is assumed with careful planning in the con-
struction of the station, a portion of that amount can be
recovered by the sale of the facility as a housing unit upon
construction of a permanent station.
January 15, 1975
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Subject: Proposed Fire Station No. 3
In addition to evaluating the two alternatives presented
above, the staff has also looked at the southwest corner
of E1 Camino Real and Chestnut. This corner is presently
undeveloped and has a large stand of eucalyptus trees on
it. It has been suggested that it might be desirable to
the City to maintain this area as semi -open space. This
corner might be a more logical place for a temporary fire
station building which could be converted later to a building
for park and recreation purposes.
Preliminary discussions have been held with the property
owner to determine if the land would be available for City
Purchase. Indications were given that it would be avail-
able to the City, however, the asking price appears to be
considerably in excess of our preliminary estimate of fair
market value. Further negotiations do not appear to be
fruitful at this time. If the City Council is interested
in the parcel, appraisal of the land should be authorized
to determine how far apart the landowner and the City are
in price.
It should be pointed out that in addition to the land price,
the station development at this site would be more expensive.
Though actual costs have not yet been estimated, additional
site preparations would be required as well as the prep-
aration of new building plans so they would be compatible
with the building's eventual use as a recreation facility.
Funds for the purchase of the land could come in part from
Park District No. 4, but a significant portion of next year's
Revenue Sharing Fund would be required to supplement this.
To proceed along these lines it is anticipated that the station
could not be operable for approximately 1 to 1 1/2 years.
If the Council wishes to continue with its consideration of a
temporary fire station in one of the two locations discussed
the following action can be taken:
To proceed with plans at the corner of E1 Camino Real and
Catalina and the staff begin processing a Conditional Use
Permit. This will include a Public Hearing before the
Planning Commission, at which time any interested citizens
can express their views.
If the Council would rather explore further the possibilities
a ' an prao Real and Chefsecu-I)C
stnut,
staff should be authorized to
isal of the parcels involved.
PAUL B "SEY
City Manager
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