HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-09-16; City Council; 3470; Mail Box Locations in New Subdivisions- `CIVI OF CARLSBAD
-AGENDA BILL X.O.
DATE: September 16,•1975
DEPARTMENT: Public Works --Engineering'
Initial.•
bept.Hd. .
C. Atty.tF'
C. Mgr._-
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MAIL BOX LOCATIONS ,IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS
Statement of the Matter ,
The U.S. Postal Service.has-recently.proposed a change in postal
servicF regulations. The proposed -changes were published in the
f,deral Register dated May'27, 10 5. 'the proposed changes require
that mailboxes in new areas,be mounted behind the curb or in clusters
of not less than three (3). These -requirements are not satisfactory
io the City for reasons stated in the attached memo from the
City Engineer•to the City Manager dated 9-8-75.
Exhibits
1. Excerpt from Federal Register dated May 27, 1975.
2. Letter from City Engineer to Senator John Tunney dated 6-26-75.
3. Memo from City Engineer to City Manager dated 9-8-75.
4,. -Resolution No. YZJl ''t objecting, to new postal regulations
affecting mail delivery --in new areas.
Recommendation
If Council concur§, adopt Resolution No.'Z objecting to new
postal regulations affecting delivery in new areas and further,
adopt a minute motion approving interim standards for mailbox
locations ih new developments.
Council action - -
9-16-75 Resolution #3747 was adopted, objecting to new postal regula-
tions affecting mail delivery in,new areas. Staff was
instructed -to forward copies of the resolution to all proper
legis,lat'ive agencies.
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ra.01:4AL COAlatumice.10m )'art a Inb;!bcr of videl cold FeMllttiollt which-uirrfruly dues nut fecelm mnu dt-
Comm itax. its t0 CIIUllelllt:+t to tlartleul..r lard s of liner. Conndtrnnnn fee riGbnthtna delnerr "
• ACCAL) • WALLACC IL Jallmsn:r. postal elty deliveij "Illch licretntore have evince will be given when she ftdlunli l; re•
- Cfdcl, nroadeast lure u. been pilbihlird ouly `� "cemianl htalnic- qua A hope lire met:
11Cen:lse Ile ^'�linpudnum1 of32P0 or morrwllhtn the
i rlt Isoc 7S-79TD0 171e6 b-20.7M;OMS mj lions of the 1'ottal :Crvftti.. , area to be screed. or 7t•0 pos♦tult dtuvtncs.
♦ {;foetal 1listructicamt are V.61a1711r coat• ip tnljwpulniton utny easynrenlll•(h•:n the
( /i7 C1'it YAtts G1. 03.87.91.93, S j vented only ttilh doled lint nperalhs ut'o- rencrai census )ropvinunn uewux of dnter-
ccdules and uIddchncs In the posal sc- enL bounduy inkrpre L,uons AM drs,,;.n-
p)ockct No. 201sll 1dons. they are not usualir 11011- 10 im trans.)
S' = ANO MCIAL ItA010 SMIVICCS Clliplcr 1 at the Postal Service Manual, b.''r Nis, pCrccut or the bunab,r.lots to tiro
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4 f • which is incorporated by rctercnco Ill arra,tr be xreeis lire Improved meth bou;-a
Statt``n Transmissions; Autoinali� Iuenl{0' the PC(ItCal RCClgcr lsM 39 �.Fll 111.1), or business IPACta. ;t'I.err A house at bundan,;
Cn('ml System; i;xlcllsloa furV to 1 Qo A,, Its yard or rroum.♦ "ter more 1:1'13 olm
Catuncnts it or otherr,•Ise published )n the federal lot. Ali laumvolvedare eons.aredemnpletely
IlegisterjutllisIllSta»ee,lio%VC%Cr,)ncer- built Up.
In 0 r tit tier of nn)mldnuQt of Ym as peratton of vane lerjonal instructions in e. Streets Are paved or othemlee 1A,; roan
81. C3, :7, teas, 01. 03. and 95 {o htstinne part 155 of'the, festal Servica Atnnuat to pennm irnrol of post olr;ce Wileles at .�
rules it�ardmr a system for autoulatic nppcats desirable to facilitate a bettor times washout damal;a ur delay.
identi0c�u'mn of station imnsullssioms. undcrstwidln;c of the City Delivery re;u- d, Slrottalgns art In plate And home null-
l.'&' irmllc Industries)Astoelnhon)atiunsoftile Postal Servictbyeoueerned•tiersdlspla)td.uherenppikable.
();IX) ice tc:,ts a three month extension mcnibenof ilia public as ucllasbypostal ce n. ht•of•wa li ail eta; A elid arcs nd-
jaernt.lo roam niut sertrts nee uupro,N ry
of tame !Dull 4gust I$,r 1`J"i • :vdhiil - employees, - . -that rnstnnntion and servicing Q., ants Mir
m 1lirh 10 i, c cc,". r,Ont$ !rr OIC cnptioacd Tito proposed rtaulafory clinnCCs \voldd not be hazerdons to the public or postAr em.
m:atcr C41111clits and Ixpty comments add to 1155.;1 a Iron' memento declaring Wortes.
\vcie (Ilia flay 10 anuyJuns 2, 19i5, tb.lt purchase, Installation; maintcttance. (.&ulsfaetory %Rasa CX)st'for u,rncra
1'mpettivt•iy. A *tell replacement of delhcry boxer nro where required.
2 In m iaj: at its r(Gest. TIA stale., not the responsibility of the U.S, Postal sea ins idea ei teat ri ateed iocations.9ro re
th..t tiro complex Issuks raised by this Service. -lilts wall terinfnnte nn experl- fluircmenu nro memom to an tmc.cal matt
1 sarocecd+l,C act,utre come time for atudY ml M um ill UORCS Wdye sup)/IICal dcuvcrr service, and must be met betam ie-
bcioic d ru,p0m,c caw be made. In par- by ilia Postal Service to InduCts rile Melee• limey is inaucimmed to A conml..ni.r. .,.
i, iluuinr• A;IA rcq tu'es;bis adailional limo ties, of the most eosl•elfective learn of est3bllshiaa deltary rervl[e, a cowtination ,
to study: t it$, delivery. a (Itllicry methods abound be congdmis to
a. )low the ugill• of on• olne com• The ieVI%Cd rmiations would delete provide Adequate: service to all rc\;drntly
q C and bushless aerutsA lit A eommuhatr •A.,
mw.ltalsous mill WGaa[elrA Ise Mo proposh), prCMCllt } .55.2. aulhol)zin. li1C Ile;;i011a1 tstabhshments of delittir service en".. hate
b, The ttehmem'rtnp^uuully ptoWen`s postmaster General or Ills dc.-ftnaC to Anal approval of tilt ntrlorm posimano:
tAi.lan• between ullIAMI proposal tmt City glve dnnl approvals for extellMon of door Geutrnl of his d(a:rncc.
` lent stnnuatds fur u tcrtiln laud nrobde dClt\Cq', RCCCp11y, L111S QISCCCLfOltap' au• .12 r.!ms.on• Imcas,on testis to ntw do.
i eyubni,ont' J i thority has rarely been caervired, bocause iilery to Areas not momitil all tie boundaries
e )toe: A' lilt mpredalrements inay affecttileti umrMnl, jimmied wvi systems mvolvinC Of Lt1dRCtar1' YCMlrnhlls. ACCOfds,felet Le- of pre10h, drbetry s MA Alt
r'Xinery s kl-cct
inabile data trans OM0.1, And ChTnLC eonforins to what has ail eases Le- exted. In 1 3.11 with ilia a rho Mama n: pt.ae
(; d. 7U0 Ken0e1`e run n,entl0ta. , Celtic 0{1CY;1tltlt: prneUce. 1litid In S8S.11 with lira Cze.ptlon Of yt: a. ,
e 1 t; 111 pWCA of 11552 ilia revised ref+Ula-
Tbus,nc find that tlu`sL7lcmcntsmatic' teens would Add it nm 1155.2 contaimm; 153.2 T)clhcry polle)1 new catabibh•
by MA comuLulO it (*it enu%e for It e.clnlied rulas on cuuli0:nent to particu- 11mols mall exlettsions.
t C,anl of its rryurst to }\tend the tinge far ulcldlcds of postal delivery ill business .1I In new cstabtashments and extensions,
for hlhaC eoLeuncnts in 1`ds prorccdhtt' areas and rehidential housinrl thleludur dclnery terrlCc Ahould br ngorded 1.1 arc.is
1Vhiiu tee aria alfordlor.:aA and other' inotaile/trailer )Iomes)• which presently that meat Ilia eritrrla In sections 13311a lad
II tute)r'dcd 1disuns additicmai 111111; little, lira found on:y In regional tintruotioas• 15512, 110301 Scrvlca Nl2nua1, And no'na"d
we culls, ciinct them t0)pur.•.110 their Itt"'IdItlon,lheIWAV1155.2would contain will be by molorrrtm carrier to eurr,bie
btudics s m4arranne for needed mcclings same a or to central neuters pomts/recepta-
n net: { 155.73 to codify mt ndminislra^ cits a ipplemcnitd us follows:
expediliou)ty and provide me Commis• live InterprClatiolt of rcgulaN011s as t0
Man wAiIjmcanimGlul comments 21r uwinur •eras, ica i);th And de -
Man to nmldcipal ordinnttcco• atgq dt buduulgv a•m dken(e the moaned
3. Accoydhl"ly. it is orde,7d. pursualit Mhlor chmiges art) rondo In Wits and of i, deliterr serlltt to be implemented. L);uv-
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to}}0.1�1,0.33).andIAG,heCoul• form (for example, lira changes of cryoauonsAre,
missimit rules that the tit ic'afor filing "address nunibcr" to "street nwnbcr" A. Vtrucat Iromoeed Afnu (VIM) Pto;,ram.
! canuut'tts In the alative eapt *tied matter proposed for section 1 155.G3). which may Include:
1s (x el'alcd tram May 10, 19754'a Au- Interested persons who wish to do so tfi 1,c boxes. Windows.
C usl lr:, 1D75, and reply comments from may suhmitleritten data, Vletcs, or argil- (3) of hbnical Conrepors
Junc�t, 1075, to September 2, 1DT, ntcnts cuneeining this proposcd•ehange tote: Tab Is nvnllablo only (or htgh•rtse,
it,, Postal Service regulailolis to Amistarit tnultlple•tenont bulldints, and only it « r-
h • A �bpted; Afar 73,1975. C1en0ml Counac), Special Projects Dh'1- tam tandttloar tit IAM For detAnl, con-
{' 1 Slcascd: afar 20, ID75. $ion, U.S. Igatlal Service. WashlOClon. stilt your postmaster.)
D.C. 202G0, At any little b(loic Juac 30, b. Single pomtsltceeptadct/door Motapro-
1raL) s075. Al ter consideration of ill) continents Varied by busmen mam4cment,
f •• , .21: Rnfdeutiol rr�usinp, a.t:re:runt Yoe
1 ClIAAws A. IficcrNPOrllAsl, received, the l astnl Service iti11 Urouud- A11 randentinl arm, recept aparlmcut houu s
Clifel,SalctyAndSpecial gate the floal regu)a1191Lx through And moms¢/trakr homes, dellmr opuooa
p•• Radio Scn'Iccsllureahr amendments to Part<155 of the Postal 'aes 1
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ft DOo.7s•10701 F71td ri•iM-7M; 8:4b nova Scrvlo hi Nlual. Accordingly. MillikIng (1) Arllvery tobnxctlocatcdat thoeurh to
9 volunking' %%,tilt tlle,aurLneO notice re- they can be, satdy And contenknu/ •creed
POSTAL SCRViCE guircmtnts of tiro Administrative Pro- by the earner front his erbkle
Cedure Act 15 U.S.O. 553 (ill. (ell TC--"MT"Ccmrm-arm y A one or lilac CCA-
39cat Poll Ill pnrdingproposedrille•nnklnr,.the postal tral points w1IDin n reitdcnuM 11011:ttl; dt-
_ 1 service p1o1101tt the followhiC tunend• \clopmenc, commuuny, or ma. neyuue-
CITY DELIVERY -nlcnts of the 5lanual: mcnw`Ara: ^r
/ (A) 7aCAl portal rnanngen roust " ova
Volivere policy; New rstablishm0nts and In Part 155 of lilt postal Sclvicol,fnn• C,,b),
Lxlensionsteal the folloivinC changes are made:ratio molt ho A minimilm of tare..Under the provialolis of 3D CPR 111.3 1. setllohs 155.1 And 155.2 nro rcvlscMIMUM iimiijp of, olio alto (%ties n no
}he 1'alnl ticrvlco proposes to M130 its to rend as follows:
110CItAt AtGllite, VOL. 40, No. 101••-7V($DAY, MAY 21t 191S
June 26, 1975
The Honorable John V..Tunney'
_ _Senate _*Of fice Building -
V Wastiington, -0,C. '20510- _
;attention: Mari Schleuning
Subject- Comments .on local impact of recent Postal Service
oollcy change
Thank you for sending a copy of the rev.lsed Postal Service
cl-tv, delivery policy and requesting coma,ents on ,its effects
on the City of Cori abad. In response, we a--i;hsslze our
opposition to it, espec'lalty as 4t affects delivery to new
local residential- developments.
As indicated on the attached standard drawing, the City of
Carlsbad requires sidewalks contiguous to the street curb,
so the street "park!oy" borders private property. Mail
boxes set at the curb of residential streets according to
39 CFR 155.2120 ) wi 11 therefore 'ci)nfI lot avi th pedestrian
traffic. Boxes set (n groups in the 03 rkway as suggested
in 155.212(b) may conflict with uti-tity installations and
bikeways,in these parkways ,(State iaw requires bikeways in
developments of 200 units or more, and'the Circulation
Element of the Car-lsbad General Plan wandates bikeways in_
collector streets or larger.,. Separbte. bikeways in -oversized -
parkways is one way.to fulfill'this requirement.) Clusters
of mailboxes on private reciprocai easeivnts off of City
right of way will conform to City and Postal Service stand-
ards, but with unknown vlsual and social effects.
Thank you for the opportunity to present our situation.
Hopefully, this informiatlon•wi:ll help wiilyh the potential
dlsadvantagas of the policy change against a -potential
Postal, Service operational gain:
Very truly yours,
ORIGINAL' SIGNED By
TWOThy C, FLANAGAN
Tlm Flanagan
City EnO nser
TCF/DCG%sln
cc: City 114r.
Planning Dlr.
Attach. Std. Owg..A-1
MEMORANDUM
September 8e 1975
TO: City Manager a -
FROM: City Engineer
SUBJECT: !"Mail box locations in hew.Aevelopments
The Post Office is refusing -to deliver mail in new developments
unless the mail box is;
1. located at curb so they can be safely and conveniently served
by the carrier from his vehicle, or
2. erected atone site�(minimum cf three boxes) and located behind
sidewalk:
This has created a considerable problem in new single family resid-
ential developments, since -the cluster concept is unpopular with
the residents and the curb location creates a hazard in the public
right of way. The postman will not deliver the mail if a car is
parked in front of the mailbox. I do not think it would be
practical to have our Police Department enforce "no parking"
in front of mailboxes.
Attached is.a sketch proposing an interim solution to the problem.
In the meantime, I am preparing an.agenda bill recommending that
the City Council adopt this iilterim'solution and adopt a resolution
objecting to the new postal regulations. „
Tim F anagan
TCF/JES'/dh
attach.
cc: Police Dept.
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MAILBOX MAYBE ,!�
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NOTES:
I. Mailbox must be rural type as accepted by Fost•Offi.ce.__
2. Mailbox must be located S feet to ? feet from' edge, of driveway.
3. Mailbox(es) should be located between adjacent driveways when distance
between driveways is 20 feet or more.
4. Two mailboxes may be installed on property line if property owners agra .
S. Bases must be temporary; public improvements mast not be damaged in
any way.
DATE TEMPORARY MAILBOX SCALE 6
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RESOLUTION NO. 3747
A RESOLUTION -OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
CARLSB�D,•CALIFORNIA OBJECTING TO NEW POSTAL
REGULATIONS AFFECTING MAIL DELIVERY IN NEW AREAS
WHEREAS, the U.S. Postal Service is adopting new postal
regulations in hopes of improving efficiency; and
WHEREAS, the new regulations require that delivery boxes
in residential dreas,shail'be,located at the curb so they can
safely-and,,conveniently be•served`by the carrier from his vehicle,
or shall be erected at one site (a minimum of three mailboxes);
and,
WHEREAS, the location of delivery boxes at the curb is not
practical, since they present a safety hazard to pedestrians by
restricting sidewalk width and make enforcement of no parking in
front of mailboxes impractical; and
WHEREAS, the clustering of delivery boxes is not practical
in single family residential developments;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the City Council of the
City of Carlsbad hereby objects to the•new postal regulations
requiring mailboxes to be located at the curb in single family
residential areas.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the
City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California, held the 16th
day of September, 1975, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: Councilmen Chase, Lewis, Skotnicki and Councilwoman
NOES: None Caster
ABSENT: Councilman Frazee V��c &
Attest: ROBERT C. F'RAZEE, Mayo
1 R AR T E. ADA14SI City Clerk
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