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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-09-05; City Council; 910-14; Municipal Swim Complex.’. . , r” / .. 4, .. --, f? . CITY OF CARLSBAD Initial : Dept. Hd. AGENDA BILL NO, 9l0 - PI4 DATE : SeDtember 5. 1 q,j . C. Atty.ul:B .t DEPARTMENT: Pub1 ic Works C. Mgr, 9 Subject: MUNICIPAL SWIM COMPLEX - PROJECT REVIEW . Statement of.the Matter On March 21, 1978, the City Council approved a conceptual design foot building and two parking areas with a capacity of 280 cars. ’plan for a pool complex containing a 50-meter pool, 6700 square The architect is approximately 25% complete with the plans and speci f i cations. City staff, in conjunction with the architect, has reviewed the project to reassess the potential for phasing the construction or reducing the scope of the project. Exhibit Memo to City Manager dated August 28, 1978 Letter from Carlsbad Unified School District’dated August 24, 1978 . Cost Chart Memo to City Manager from Parks and Recreation Coordinator, 8-31-78 Recommenda t ion If City Council concurs, direct staff to continue work on the project’ . as originally approved by Council. .. Council Action: 9-5-78 Council directed staff to continue work on the pool project as originally approved by Council. MEMORANDUM TO : City FROM : Pub I DATE: Augu Manager c Works Admi n i strator t 28, 1978 SUBJ ECT: COMMUN I TY SW I M COMPLEX - PROJ ECT REPORT In response to Council's request, staff is summarizing information contained in previous reports concerning the proposed community swim complex. It is important for Council to consider the service capabilities of the various sizes of pool when making their decisions. The architect has been asked to be present at the Council meeting to summarize this information for the Counci I. The alternatives requested to be reported on were: (1) phased construction of the 50-meter "Z" shaped pool and facilities and (2) reduction in scope of the pool project. Since the building facilities must be present in order to functionally operate as a community pool, minimum phasing is available. Some reduction of the approved proj- ect's scope could be accomplished by delaying the north parking lot and access onto Basswood, some landscaping and certain facilities such as bleachers. This will result in reducing the initial construction costs by something in the range of $100,000 to $150,000. Reduction in the scope of the project could be achieved by changing the concept of the project to either a 50-meter rectangular pool (cost reduction of approximately $200,000), or reduction of the pool to a 25-yard lrZ'l shaped or 25-yard square con- figuration (cost reduction of approximately $400,000 and $560,000 respectively). In considering these last alternatives, Council should be aware that the architect has completed approximately 25% of the work involved in the design of the 50-meter pool and building complex. This work is not recoverable or applicable if the design con- cept is changed. The architectural fee was negotiated on a construction cost of $700,000. Since the work done to date would not be transferable to a reduced scope of the proj- ect, then the net impact on architectural fees of changing the scope of the project would be negligible. Fees are currently being negotiated for the increased scope of the project. The Parks Department has estimated the first year's operation and maintenance ex- penses to be approximately $175,000. approximately $150,000 with a 25-yard pool. They anticipate these costs could be reduced to RECOMMENDATION That City Council direct staff on which project concept they desire to proceed. Ronald A. Beckman, P.E. Pub I i c Works Admi n i strator RAB: veb CC: Parks 8, Recreation Coordinator, Project Manager ' 11'7. August 24, 1978 .. Dr. Ronald C. Packard, Mayor City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 Dear Dr. Packard: In reply to your letter of August 15, 1978, please be advised that the Carlsbad Unified School District has planned aOr and intends to have available sufficient funds to pay for aur utilization of the proposed swimming pool, Our agreement did not spell out the exact amount of utjiliza- tion by the school district, but it did call for our chedilsg the land to the City for the express purpose and declared intention of building a swimming pool. As you may hawe noted, we have constructed nine tennis courts in connection wikh this agreement that are available for both school and commdty use, but the absence of even the beginnings of constrnction of a pool after so long a period borders on bad faith in the eyes of this School Board. Please accept our encouragement to get on with the project, Sincerely yours, - President, Board- of Trus-s TLC/es cc: Robert A, Crawford, Superintendent Paul D. BUSSY, City Manager Board of Trustee Members Ln 0 0 03 c a c LL v) 0 Ln 4- M a cn 0 0 N c m - LL v) 0 0 4- c m c Ln N 4- In N a LL v) 0 M h a 4- 0 0 N * M c - LL v) 0 N h \D - CJ z - n -1 3 M - M 4. h h h a 0 f- 0 u. c n 69 0 c v z 0 I- - 4 a u v) W 03 Ln Ln N 4- Ln u, a cn N M 00 \o u, c a Ln h c a Ln Ln co u, h 0 cn 0 M 0 m m c u, A a !s ki 3 I- z 0 v)c) MEMORANDUM TO : CITY MANAGER FROM : Coordinator, Parks and Recreation Department DATE : August 31 , 1978 SUBJECT: COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL MAINTENANCE, OPERATIONS AND PERSONNEL COSTS The maintenance, operations and personnel costs for the presently proposed 50 meter "U" shaped pool are estimated to be approximately $178,000 for the first year. is computed at $91,683 for personnel and $80,609 for maintenance and operations in proposed phase I and $5,382 for maintenance in proposed phase 11. The maintenance, operations and personnel costs for the proposed 50 meter rectangular pool are calculated to be approximately $166,000 for the first year. This is broken down as $91,683 for personnel and $68,760 for maintenance and operations in proposed phase I and $5,382 for maintenance in proposed phase 11. The costs for the proposed 25 yard "Z" shaped pool are approximately $145,000 for the first year. tenance and operations. phase. This This is calculated to be $91,683 for personnel and $39,247 for main- This proposal is recommended to be constructed in a single The proposed 25 yard square pool maintenance, operations and personnel costs are approximately $131,000 which amounts to $91,683 for personnel and $39,247 for main- tenance and operations. This pool is proposed to be constructed in a single phase. It should be noted that the costs for personnel services to operate the pool are con- stant for the four pool configurations. The same number of lifeguards, pool supervi- sor, pool caretaker, locker room attendants and cashiers are basically required for the functioning of each of the pools. to be: First year revenues for the pools are anticipated $12,500 for the 50 meter "U" shaped pool $10,000 for the 50 meter rectangular pool $ 7,500 for the 25 yard "Z" shaped pool $ 6,250 for the 25 yard square pool Carlsbad Unified School District's proportionate cost share of the time that the pool is used has been previously established at 19.4% for specified operations and mainten- ance costs. It is not known whether the schools will use the pool nor what amount of time they will use it, hence their proportionate money share cannot be computed. Parks and Recreation Department JE : swf MEMORANDUM TO: CITY MANAGER FROM: Coordinator, Parks and SUBJECT: CARLSBAD * S COMMUNITY OPERATIONS COSTS . ,. . I. .. .. ., .I . .. . .. . .. . .. . ..- I. .. DATE: Play 19, 1978 7 Recreation Department SWIENING POOL MAINTENANCE AND The first year total maintenance and operations costs for the community swimming pool will be approximately $177,674. This consists of $25,382 for landscape maintenance, $91,653 for pool personnel and $60,609 for pool maintenance and operations. Landscape Maintenance $25,382" - Water consumption for landscaped areas, 60,000 units 330 - Electrical costs for parking lot and decorative lighting and for - Contigency costs, depreciation of equipment tools,.clerical and staff support 5,076 - Labor for trash cleanup, mowing and landscape, tree and irriga- tion maintenance 14 ,976,,-' irrigation control 2,000 Pool Personnel - Aquatics Superintendent - Pool Caretaker - Lifeguards, 2-5 on duty at a time (pool duty, locker room attendants and cashiers) $91,683 16,182 10,074 65,427 Pool Maintenance and Operation $60,609 - Water 157" Gas and electric Telephone Pool Chemicals Water Analysis Janitorial Supplies Printing and Binding Postage General Office Supplies "Joint City-School District Expenditures 51 ,100" 500 7,368" 315" 500" 454 65 150 Estimated first year City revenues will be $12,500. This will be derived from recreation swimming and swim instruction. -2- Estimated Costs and Revenues: 1st Year 2nd Year 3rd Year 4th Year Landscape hlki in t en anc e $ 25,382 $ 27,920 $ 30,712 $-33,"783 Pool Personnel 91,683 100,852 110,937 122,031 Pool Maintenance and Operations 60,609 66,669 73,336 80,669 Total 177,674 195,441 214,985 236,483 Cost to City 161,219 177,341 195,075 214,582 Cost to School District 16,455 18,100 19,910 21,901 City Revenues $ 12,500 $ 13,750 $ 15,125 $ 16,637 Your requested report from the Recreation Superintendent on information about 6-8 public operated pools is forthcoming, Parks and Recreation Department JE : scf Distributed to: City Council City Clerk f September 19, 1978 COMMENTS FROM CARLSBAD RESI'DENTS IN AGREEMENT OF THE ATTACHED ARTICLE - REFERENCE SWIMMING POOL - WRITTEN BY BOB AND ALICE BEACH -- NAME - COMMENTS Bob and Alice Beach 4055 Syme Drive c- "Wrote the article" Mr. and Mrs. D. McKenzie 3620 Trieste Drive -- "We Agree:" Mr. Frederic Conn 823 Caminito Rosa -- ''1 agree with the attached letter, and can't understand how you can spend so much money for the benefit of so few." Percy D. and Lucille Cloud -- "No Comment -- Signature only." ' Robert Sheard 1 "Let's clean up beaches, littering, Post Office Box 1441 1 noisy mufflers, racing cars, etc. before undertaking a new project. Refine and improve existing facilities, services! Carlsbad doesn't need their own pool: 'I Margaret Spoerer 4115 Highland Drive 1 -- 3 1 - Anonymous -- "NO Comment and no signature" Miss Hazel Nordahl and Miss Esther House 3229 Valley Street -- "NO Comment -- Signatures only." _- A. F. Grider -- "We told you not to waste our money 1545 Sunrise Circle when we voted for Proposition 13. This is a wast.e of money that will be used by only a small portion of our people. Quit spending money on things we don't need." -7- Mrs. I. W. Newport 2020 Karren Lane i "We could not have said it better. - 7 Amen. 'I -1- c- -2- COMMENTS -. Mr. R. J, Birkmeyer 812 Caminito Azul Irene Walters 1826 Magnolia J. Perry 4930 Hillside Drive Charles, Dorothy, and 1170 Chinquapin Avenue Etta Jones Lyle and Norma Peterson 1950 Basswood Avenue -- "No Comment -- Signature Only." -- "No Comment -- Signature Only," -- nPlease.... DO FLOOD-CONTROL WORK to prevent still further property -- - damage on Hillside Drive." -- ' "NO Comment -- Signatures Only." -- "Why don't you people on the City Council listen to what taxpayers are telling you through Proposition 131! No more big spending! We have had it!:" Mr. and Mrs. William Howalt 3640 Catalina Drive -- "We agree , 'I H. A. Noyes 7220 San Lucas -- "NO Comment -- Signature Only." Mr. & Mrs. E. L. Ireland 3816 Sierra Morena -- "NO Comment -- Signatures Only." Lt.Col.USAF Phil C. Bunn 5350 LO~ Robles Drive -- "1 agree with the writer, Either kill the project or at least give us an opportunity to vote on it again at '78 prices." . -. 1 - Anonymous ->---- -- What will it take - another tea party ? A 1978 .is too rn ol at ’78 prices y to buy *. 1- -- u.;l*.. * .. I Well, Carlsbad citizens, Oceanside has its new golf course and now Carlsbad will have a $1.27 million, 50-meter swimming pool for a city of.approxiniately 30,000 people; while RliraCosta College will build only a 25-yard pool. All with a nice large ocean nearby which takes no precious water and heating, or $178,000 yearly upkeep!!! Oh yes, and approximately $16,000 yearly insur- ance not included in above figures. All this with help from $1 million “found” overage in our city budget. What if we “lose” a million in the next few years? I am a tax counselor and understand what state and federal taxes take from the middle income group of taxpayers in the $12,000 to $50,000 bracket. In Coun- cilman Skotnicki’s words, now we are being “ripped off’ by our city. With passage of Proposition 13 I didn’t think the pool had a chance. I attended a Proposition 13 study committee meeting, and when it was given low prior- ity I thought common sense would prevail. Then came the newspaper article on consideration of pool costs about a week prior to the Sept. 5 council meeting. I gave the citizen’s views, objecting strong- ly. Yet Councilwoman Casler said, “Citizens neither knew nor cared if there was any fat -in city govern- ment.” We care very much, but when $1 million is reported in Saturday’s paper, a council meeting is held the next Tuesday and threeon that council vote to imme- diately use the money for a pool, it gives only the vested interests (who were there) time to speak. We elect officials to express our majority views because they, by taking that position, indicate they have and will take time to study issues carefully. The average citizen has neither the information nor time, and like myself, now has a feeling of utter helpless- ness when three people can burden all taxpayers with huge expenses. My 1977 tax bill shows we are already paying 52 percent for unified school, college, and other educa- tion purposes. For unified schools alone we pay 40 percent of our taxes, which means at approximately $1,300 a year per pupil, it now takes 4.06 taxpayers (three without children in school) to put one child through school yearly. Now we are asked to pay $200,000 a year more for pool maintenance. There are many private pools, plus every new condo, apartment and mobile home park has a pool. Like Councilman Anear, I ask where will they get the projected 600 people a day to use this pool year ’round? Mayor Packard discounted teenagers pre- ferring the beach, and that people who live here tend not to use it. Yet thousands use our beach every summer, and all year hundreds each day enjoy its beauty, Tishing, and surfing. Money from our tourist trade is substantial, and it’s $10,000 more for an oceanview home. People move here generally not for what the city alone offers, but because of job relocation, moderate priced hpusing (until now), ocean views, and cooler climate. Carlsbad had little money til the building boom started, yet Mayor Packard accepts the March 1974 advisory election results but 1978 prices to build the Let us accept a 1978 people’s vote at 1978 prices. Then the $1 million will be spent according to the majority. Also, majority needs indicate a centralized adequate police facility, branch La Costa library, and cleaner beaches as better use of this money. If you agree with me, please cut out this letter, sign your name, and send it to the council at city hall. Alice Beach Carlsbad pool. a This letter was also signed by eight other people. This is your page, Carlsbad Carlsbad Forum is a special feature which gives Carlsbad people free access to their newspaper. Con- tributions - either letters or guest commentary columns - are always welcome and may be addressed to the Forum, P.O. Box 248, Carlsbad 92008. No material bear- ing pseudonyms or initials will be published, and no names will be withheld. All material intended for publica- tion should be signed by the writer. No poetry, please. Statements and opinions an this page are those of the individual writer or columnist, except in the case of labeled editorials, which reflect the views of the Carlsbad Journal. ‘. \ ..... :.., ,. . ....L.,.-.-i-- .. t :. , k - ,e- HENRY M. KlDD 4726 BIRCHWOOD CIRCLE CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92008 Cound won’t accept cost of pool design Incensed at the escalation of architectural costs for the already inflation-prone community swimming pool, the City Council Tuesday night refused to sign an architectural agreement with Kammeyer, Lynch and Partners and asked the city staff to renegotiate the con tract. “The whole thing is outrageous and I would be very much against our signing it,” said Councilwoman Mary Casler, who along with the four other council- men took exception to the firm’s request for $96,900- $36,000 more than the council last year approved for project fees. But last year, the council had figured the pool would cost about $700,000 and had based the design fee on that amount. The pool estimate came in a half-million dollars more than the original guess, and this Sep- tember the architect said the original $60,900 would not cover work costs for the more expensive pool. The issue will come before the council again in two weeks.