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AGEWDA BILL NO. 5791 Supplement No. 1
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DEPARTMENT: City Manaqer
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OLD LIBRARY/CITY HALL BUILDING
(Formerly Part of Old Catholic Church Building)
Statement of the Matter
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A joint request has been received from the Carlsbad Senior Citiz
Association and Carlsbad Historical Society for assistance in co
necting a sewer line to the building which was moved to the Magel
property (1.33 EDU's required).
At the March 20, 1979 Council meeting, authorization was given ti
the Historical Society to move the building at their expense to
the northwest corner of Magee Park, that the building be locked
and not used until a foundation was placed under it, and subsequ Council direction. A concrete block foundation is now in place
and the building nas been set in place. Additionally, staff has
now received a request fron the Carlsbad-Oceanside Art League to
use the building for displays by local artists. By letter dated
Sctober 5, 1979, the Carlsbad Historical Society has requested
approval to rehabilitate the building as well as Council consid-
eration of some monetary support for materials.
Before the building can be used as requested by the two groups,
sewer lines, electrical connections, plumbing, some plumbing
fixtures, and some interior renovation will have to be accomplis1
The estimated cost is approximately $32,000 to $43,000.
Exhibit
1. Letter from Carlsbad Senior Citizens' Association and Carlsbz
Historical Society dated August 6, 1979.
2. Estimate of cost requirements fron Building Official dated
8-29-79.
3. Letter from Carlsbad iiistorical Society dated 10-5-79.
4. Letter from Art League dated 10-3-79.
5. Report from Assistant City Manager dated 10-23-79.
6. Facility Layout of Magee House.
That Council refer this information to the Parks and Zecreation
Commission, requesting them to hold a public hearing for all
interested citizens' groups to give input to the Commission for
report to the City Council.
Recommendation
Council Action:
11-6-79 Council referred the matter to the Parks & Rec comnission fc
hearing and report.
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Incorporated in the State of California, June 25, 1975 Corporate number 738726
A Non-Profit Corp
CARLSBAD SENIOR CITIZENS[ ASSOCIATIC
2945 Harding
Carlsbad, California
r- Phone (714) 72s
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To: The City Council, through the City f'kinager
City or' '.arlsbad, California
Subject,: Request for consideration of Sewer connection for Old Catholic Zh
The Carlsbad Seniar bitzens 1 Association joix with the Carlsbad
Historical Society in asking for conside-ation of the City in ass'bnce
with the connection to the Sewer line for the 131d Catholic Church B uiPdkg
which was moved recent,ly to the &gee Property.
There is a great -need in the Community for more meeting rooms and
halls for the various activities of all the groups who desite space, and
the Parks and "ecreation department, too, is feeling the lack of facilities
with lessening of quarters avaihble frorn the schools since the passage of
?reposition 13.
Any help or advice on the part of the City Council or Staff which
might assist in the eventital use of sewage facilities would be appreciated. There have been offers of h elp in the rnanpower to achieve the connection,
once it has been made available.
Sincerely .,
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Bard of D'frectors.
Raymond L. Ede
President
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THE FOLLOWING IS AN ESTIMATE OF MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO
ESTABLISH OLD LIBRARY FOR USE.
GAS LINE, WATER SERVICE AND METER. 750. to 1,000.
SEWER AND FIXTURE REPLACEMENT. 4,000. to 4,500.
ELECTRICAL, SERVICE PANEL, 7,000. to 8,000. FIXTURES, PLUGS AND SWITCHES.
REPAIR AND REPLACE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS 4,000. to 5,000. BEFORE BUILDING IS SET DOWN.
FUMIGATION OF BUILDING FOR INFESTATION. 3,500. to 4,500.
TO IMPROVE ESTHETICS OF BUILDING EXTERIOR 1,500. to 3,000. AFTER SETTING DOWN ONTO FOUNDATION.
PATCHING, PAINTING A'ND REPAIR OF INTERIOR AND NEW RAMP.
PA I NT I MG EXTER I OR. 4,000. to 5,000.
BALCONY
5,000. to 7,500.
1. IF USED. 1,500. to 3,000.
2, IF NOT USED. 500, to 1,000.
DISCONTINUE USE OF UNDERSTAIR STORAGE. 200. to 250.
31,950 42,750
August 30, 1979 - Received from Richard Osburn, Building Official
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October 5, 1979
Mayor Ron Packard The City Council
1200 Elm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA. 92008
Dear Mayor and Members of the City Council:
I am happy to report that the project of moving the Old St. Pat'
Church to its site in McGee Park was completed successfully in
September. Through generous contributions of The Friends of the Library($700+) and from the Humphries Construction Co, who built
the foundation The Historical Society was able to go the extra
mile and actually complete the move including the foundation at
a cost of $4,580 total costs.
There are still many things to do to make this excellent 1500 square foot structure safe and useable to the community. Arrang
ments have been made,for instance,to insure that all utilities a
brought to the building during construction of the Park thanks t
and lighting, water system, landscaping, gas heating, painting
and repairing of stucco still needs to be accomplished.
Although most of this work will be volunteered, the costs of the
materials in a large part will not be donated; The Historical
Society therefore is making the following request formally to th
city.
The Historical Society after showing good faith and its ability
to perform constructive tasks on behalf of the community in havi
safely, effectively and economically, by incorporating and encou
aging the aid of other civic organizations permanently relocated the Old St. Patrick's Church/City Eall/Library including the con struction of the Foundation, requests the City of Carlsbad to a1 the Historical Society of Carlsbad to act as project manager for
the total restoration of the subject property. The historical Society will seek out, organize and utilize Community support ar
financial aid to complete the project to the degree that the con
munity will participate.
For taking on the responsibility of the completion of this pro]€
the Historical Society requests that the City of Carlsbad make
available for the purchase of materials the Three Thousand Nine
Hundred Dollars(S3,900)that was allocated for the demolition of
subject property in the contract for the construction of the
City of Carlsbad
the city staff, Joe Eqgleston in particular. New electrical wir
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Harding St. Center.
We would suggest that these funds, if granted for the specific
use above, be administered by the contracts administrator to
assure the city that they are being used in proper and designate
manner.
orable body does not elect to provide those funds to the project
as proposed, to continue to see the project through to completio through funding provided by our Society and other community grou
Enclosed is a preliminary schedule for the accomplish.ment of the
necessary work to completely restore the building to community
use by the time the landscaping of McGee Park is completed in th Spring of 1980.
The Historical Society will endeavor even if your hon-
TIME TO ESTIMATED COST DATE PROJECT C OM!? L E TE
Oct. 15 Repair Stucco 2 Weeks $200.00 31 Prepare Exterior
Nov- 1 Paint Exterior 2 Weeks $600.00 15 and Roof
30 Repair, Clean 2 Weeks $300.00
Prepare Interior
Dec. 1 Paint Interior 1 Week $250.00
15 Rewire Interior 1 Week $250.00
30 Run Gas Heating
Lighting
Line. Run Water 2 Weeks Service. Run
Sewer Line.
$3500.00
$800.00
$5650.00
Alternatives:
Construct Full Bath $1100.00 Chairs and Tables for
100 People $1750.00
Total Costs of Materials and Non Volunteer Labor $8500.00
These numbers are obviously less than those presented you if
the project were to be completed by bidding procedures through
governmental process. We believe that this project can be compl
by a combination of community effort and city support at or near
this cost.
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Please give us the opportunity to complete the building re-
furbishing, and let the community involvement do its share along
with the city.
Very truly yours,
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Roy J. Ward
Director
For the Board of Directors
Carlsbad Historical Society
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CARLSBAD. CALIFORNIA 92008
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DATE : OCTOBER 23, 1979
TO : CITY HANAGER
FROM : Assistant City Manager
SUBJECT: OLD CITY €€ALL-CATHOLIC CHURCH BUILDING
In March, 1979 the City Council gave their consent to the Carls.
bad Historical Society to move the old City Hall-Catholic Churc
building to the Magee Park site. At that time Council instruct
that before it was placed, it would be necessary to have a foun
dation constructed. A foundation was constructed by volunteer
labor and the materials and the building was set in place in th
Magee Park site. They further directed that it could be used by the Library for book storage and sorting but not by organi-
zations.
In August, 1979 the City Manager's office received a joint
request from the Carlsbad Historical Society and the Carlsbad
Senior Citizens for hook-up to the sewer and the necessary E.D.
to enable the building to be used. In October, a request was
received from the Carlsbad-Oceanside Art League to use the
building for art display and instructional purposes. In Octobc
a letter was received from Roy Ward, on behalf of the Carlsbad
Historical Society, asking the Council permit them to rehabili,
tate the building and consider authorizing $3,900 for material
They thought this amount was earmarked previously for demoliti
of the building. This sum of money was a HDC Grant and no por
of that grant was earmarked specifically for the demolition of the old building. Mr. Ward's letter indicates that the buildi
can be rehabilitated for approximately $8,500. The City's Bui
ing Official estimates rehabilitation of the building to be between $32,000 and $43,000.
Since there is so much interest in this building and its rehak litation, staff feels it necessary to bring the matter before the Council and recommends that they refer the matter to the
Parks and Recreation Commission and ask that they hold a publi
hearing for citizen input as to the best use of the building.
When this is accomplished, the Commission should return a re-
port to the Council in order that a policy decision can be mac
WILLIAM C. BALDWIN
Assistant City Manager
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