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RESOLUTION ENDORSING NEED FOR NEW -~ft::-£1..
LEGISLATION TO AID IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CITY Al I f¥,L.!;,,L-
LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT ALONG COASTLINE CITY MGR,,,_..,
RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Review and consider the attached resolution which seeks
modifications to the Federal Aviation regulations requiring
both fixed-wing airplane and helicopters fly at altitudes in
excess of 1,000 feet over communities and within 1/2 mile
of shoreline.
ITEM EXPLANATION:
Council Member Kulchin has requested that this item be placed
on the agenda for review and consideration by the Council.
The Cardiff by the Sea Town Council is requesting that the
City of Carlsbad adopt a resolution endorsing this legislation.
EXHIBITS:
1. Letter from Cardiff by the Sea Town Council and draft
resolution, dated 6/21/85.
--EXHIBIT #1
Cardiff by the Sea Town Coun~il
P.O. BOX 1!4 CARDlFF-BY-TI-lE·SEA. CAUFORNIA 92007
June 21, 1985
Councilman Walt Gilbert
City of Oceanside
704 Third Street
Ocea~side, CA 92054
Dear \ial t:
The Cardiff-by-the-Sea Town Council requests that you consider
presenting a resolution to your city council endorsina the need
for new legislation that would aid in the fight against low
flying aircraft along the coastline.
It is further reauested that you transmit that resolution to the
following repres;ntatives as soon as possible:
Senator Pete Wilson
Congressman Bill Lowery
Congressman Ron Packard
Senator Bill Craven
Assemblywoman Sunny Mojonnier
Assemblyman Bob Frazee
Supervisor Susan Golding
Supervisor Paul Eckert
We hope that you will recom.~end that your life ouards be
instructed to report to the FAA irnmediatelv allJ aircraft
violations. These employees, with binoculars,· are our best
defense against a major accident, injury or possible eeath of our
citizens and guests.
Las~ year., through a series of letters and media support the
Cardiff-by-the-Sea Town Council, in our estinate, was able to
reduce the fly-overs by appro~irnatey 50%. With the summer season
came a new outbreak of showoffs and girl watchers. Because of
our noise and the media coverage given this ite~ in the lRst two
weeks a noticeable drop in violations has again occurred. Our
goal is to make it known to our federal representatives that the
coastal comrr:unities stand together on this issue and that we want
the necessary )egislation passed into law to eliminate the
problem o~ce and for all.
Please do what you·can to make this a unanimous stane from San
Diego to Oceanside.
If I c~n be of any help, please feel free to call me at 753-7477.
Sincerely,
Bob Bonde, President
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SUGGESTED RESOLUTION
The _______________ condemns th~ irresponsible and
dangerous actions of those individuals that buzz, at low
altitudes, the coastal communities, bluffs, beaches, and surf in
both fixed-wing airplanes and helicopters. To attempt to end
this disturbing practice the _____________ hereby
resolves to seek, through the legislative process, modifications
to the Federal Aviation Regulations. Modifications that would
require that both fixed-wing airplanes and helicopters fly at
altitudes in excess of 1,000 feet over our communities and within
1/2 mile of our shoreline except when landing, taking off, law
enforcement or emergency.
To provide meaningful enforcement of
seeks
remarking grace period and the return of the
identification numbers for all aircraft.
this requirement
an end of the
large underbody
Because
the
the Federal Aviation Administration is unable to provide
staff
field enforcement of their regulations the
hereby directs the lifeguard
to record all aircraft airspace violations and to
inunediately
FAA.
call in the necessary information to the San Diego
Cardiff by the Sea Town Council
? 0. BOX II~ CAROfF;::-av-TI-iE·SE"-OUFCRNIA 9200i
Congressman Bill Lowery
880 Front Street
June 21, 1985
San Diego, CA 92188
Dear Honorable Congressman Lowery:
Coastal communities from Oceanside to San Diego are concerned
about the num:••r of low flying aircraft over the bluffs, beaches
and surf and request your assistance in carrying corrective
legislation. Legislation that would require that all aircraft be
clearly marked and that both fixed-wing and helicopers be
required to maintain a minimum of 1,000 feet in height within 1/2
mile of the shoreline, except during actual take off or landing
or emergency situations.
We need help in order to help ourselves. During our
season, there are times when aircraft buzz our
frequently as one every 10 minutes. Some of these
as low as 30 fe.t off the beach. Helicopters, both
civilian are the bi.ggest offenders.
peak tourist
beaches as
aircraft are
military and
The Federal Aviation Administration does not have the personnel
to enforce the existing regulations. They have asked us to
report the following information:
1. Kind of aircraft (fixed wing or helicopter)
2. Number of engines
3. Number of wings
4. Locaton of wings (high or low)
5. Colors of the aircraft
6. Aircraft identification number
7. Estimate height of the aircraft based upon some known
reference point
Because of the magnitude of the problem, the State Parks and
Recreation Department life guards from Carlsbad to Del Mar have
received orders to report the above information directly to the
FAA. Hopefully the city and county life guards will soon be
instructed to follow suit. Problems develop because of
deficiencies in the existing regulations. There are no height
regulations for helicopters and the numbers on the aircr~ft are
so small they can not be read.
The following
Regulations:
are direct quotes from
FAR 91.79 Minimum safe altitudes; aeneral.
and landing, no person may operate an
following altitudes:
Federal Aviation
Except for takeoff
aircraft below the
(a) Anrwhere, An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails,
an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or
property on the surface.
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{b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a
town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of
persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the high~st
obstacle within a horizontal radi~s of 2,000 feet of
the aircraft.
{c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500
feet above the surface, except over open water or
sparsely populated areas. In that case, the aircraft
may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person,
vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums
prescribed in paragraph (b{ or {c) of this section if
the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or
property on the surface ...... .
Our request is
regulations as
media, police
missions.
to make helicopters comply with the same
fixed-wing aircraft. Exceptions might be news
surveilance and Coast Guard while on specific
In order to bring a.ction against the offenders it is necessary to
obtain the aircraft identification number. Again quoting
directly from the Federal Aviation Regulations:
FAR 45.29 Size of Marks.
{a) Except as provided in paragraph (f) of this section,
each operator of an aircraft shall display marks on the
aircraft meeting the size require~qnts of this section.
{b) Height. The character marks must be of equal height and
on -
(1) Fixed-wing aircraft, must be at least 12 inches
high, except that:
(i) An aircraft displaying marks at least 2 inches
high before November 1, 1981, and an aircraft
manufactured after January 1, 1983, m~y
display those marks until the aircraft is
repainted or the marks are repainted,
restored, or changed;
(3) Rotorcraft, must be at least 12 inches high, except
that rotorcraft displaying before April 18, 1983,
marks required by FAR 45.29 (b) (3) in effect on
April 17, 1983, and rotorcraft manufactured on or
before April 18, 1983, but before December 31,
1983, may display those marks until the aircraft is
repainted or the marks are repainted, restored, or
changed.
(f) If either one of the surfaces authorized for displayi:J
the required marks under FAA 45.25 is large enough for
display of marks meeting the size requirerne1Jts of this
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section and the other is not, full size marks shall be
placed on the larger surEace. If neither is large
enough for full size marks, marks as large as
practicable shall be displayed on the larger of the two
surfaces. . .....
It is obvious that it is impossible to record a long number of 2
inch high letters or even 12 inch letters off of an aircraft
screaming by at under 100 feet at over 100 miles per hour. At
one time the letter height under the wings of aircraft was 30
inches. Presently no under wing markings are required. We
would like to see the return to something close to that 30 inch
size and definitly on the bottom of the aircraft.
Our beaches are to a large extent our economic base. We can not
allow a few reckless individuals to adversley effect the quality
of life in the area and the attractiveness of oui.-beaches to the
tourists and residents. It is just a matter of time until there
is a major aircraft accident due to girl watching and showing
off. We must out a ston to this safety hazard now. . .
The San Diego FAA is sympathetic to our problem and sees a need
for chanqe. Mr Oicar Feaster, Principle Operations ~pecialist,
at FAA FSDO 19 8665 Gibbs Drive Suite 110 San Dieqo, 92123 (619)
293-5281 has volunteered to review any draft legislation and· to
assist in the process.
Mr. Tompkins of the FM has been repo~~ed as saying that in his
28 years of being in the business ~e has never seen the FAA
regulations changed in response to local efforts. Let"s work
together to break that long record of unresponsiveness.
Your consideration of our request is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Bob Bonde, President
cc. Senator Pe~e Wilson
Congressman Ron Packard
Senator Bill Craven
Assemblywoman Sunny Mojonnier
Assemblyman Robert Frazee
San Diego County Supervisor Susan Golding
San Diego County Supervisor Paul Eckert
San Dieqo City Councilman Mike Gotch
Del Mar City Councilman Louis Hopkins
Carlsbad City Councilwoman Ann Kulchin
Oceanside City Councilman Walt Gilbert
Solana Beach Town Council President Jack Peek
Encinitas/ Leucadia Town Council PresidPnt Rick Shea
FAA Oscar Feaster
FAA John Tompkins
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RESOLUTION NO. 8133 -----
A RESC <-· TION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
CARLSB J, CALIFORNIA ENDORSING THE NEED FOR NEW
LEGISLATION TO AID ~N THE FIGHT AGAINST LOW
FLYING AIRCP~?T ALONG THE COASTLINE.
The City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California
does resolve as follows:
The City of Carlsbad condemns the irresponsible and
dangerous actions of those individuals that buzz, at low
altitudes, the coastal communities, bluffs, beaches, and surf in
both fixed-wing airplanes and helicopters. To attempt to end
this disturbing practice the City of Carlsbad hereby resolves to
seek, through the legislative process, modifications to the 1
Federal Aviation Regulations to require that both fixed-wing
airplanes and helicopters fly at altitudes in excess of 1,000
feet over Carlsbad and within one half mile of our shoreline
except when landing, taking off, or involved with law enforcement
or emergency activities.
To provide meaningful enforcement of this requirement
the City of Carlsbad seeks an end of the remarking grace period
and the return of the larg~ unuerbody identification numbers for
all aircraft.
Because the Federal Aviation Administration is unable
to provide che field enforcement of their regulations the City
of Carlsbad hereby asks area lifeguards to record all aircraft
airspace violations and to immediately call in the necessary
information to the San Diego FAA.
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PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of
the City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California held on the
30th day of Jul Y , 1985 by the following vote to wit:
ATTEST:
AYES: Courcil Members Casler, Lewis, Kulchin, Chick
and Pettine
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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MARY~SLER, Mayor
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PETE WILSON
CALIFORNIA
Ms. Karen R. Kundtz
Deputy City Clerk
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
WASHINGTON, O.C. 20510
October 4, 1985
Carlsbad, California 92008-1989
Dear Ms. Kundtz:
Thank you for your letter regarding low-flying
aircraft along the coastline.
COMMITTEES:
ARMED SERVICES
AGRICULTURE
AGING
I appreciate your concern on this matter and I
have referred your letter to the Federal Aviation
Administration, because that office has jurisdiction
over this issue. As soon as I receive a reply, I will
be in touch with you again.
Again, thank you for contacting me.
Sincerely,
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PETE WILSON
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SACRAMENTO ADDRESS
STATE CAPITO!..
, SAC.~AMENTO 9!5& 14
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DISTRICT OFFICE
3088 PIO PICO DRIVE,
SUITE200
CARLSBAD.CA92008
(619)434-1749 J\ssemhl~
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ROBERT C. FRAZEE
ASSEMBLYMAN, SEVENTY-FOURTH DISTRICT
Ms Karen R. Kundtz
Deputy City Clerk
City of. Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
August 12, 1985
Carlsbad, California 92008-1989
Dear Ms Kundtz:
COMMITTEES
REVENUE & TAXATION
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION
LOCAL G<lVERNMENT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES
JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT
I appreciate your forwarding to me a copy of the Coun-
cil's recent Resolution No. 8133 which endorses the need
for legislation to curb low-flying aircraft along our
coastline.
This type of legislation would have to be preceded by
Federal Aviation Administration action and consequently
the matter must be handled through your federal repre-
sentative, congressman Ron Packard.
I have already been active in this problem and I am
enclosing a copy of my letter to Congressman Packard for
your information.
s~rely,
lr'ef:.!t~~
Assemblyman, 74th ~istrict
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ROSERT C. FRAZEE
t.SSE:Ml3LYMAN SEVENTY-FOURTH D?STRICT
July 3, 1985
The Hon. Ron Packard
Congressman, 43rd District
2121 Palomar Airport Road, Suite 105
Carlsbad, California 92008
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There is a growing concern over the number of aircraft
that frequently make low flying passes over our North
County beaches. Since this con~inued practice could
result in serious injury to both those in the air and
those on the beach, I would appreciate it if you would
look into seeing what can be done to control it.
My office is available to assist you in this regard.
Enclosure
cc: Bob Bonde
Best regards,
Robert c. Frazee
Assemblyman, 74th District
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