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March 18, 1986
AB 8550 - Tentative Map and Condo Permit - CT-85-23jCP 250
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TO: P!ayor Casler and Councilmembers
From: Girard [ti. Anear, 1728 nalavo Ct., Carlsbad, 7.29=0183
Subject: Hosp Grove - Item $14
"Six hundred acres of eucalyptus will be thinned in Golden
Sational Recreation Area in Farin County because they are consi
a fire hazard 2nd a detriment to other plants, the National Par
said. The government said it is not asking for public comment
10 year gradual removal process which is part of the 1985 manag
plan for the area". (From last week's L. A. Times)
brin Zounty is not exposed to Santana conditions such as
here several times a year, but the !rational Park Servize still
this grove is a fire hazard! A few years ago, another bay city
si.milar problem, and they spent a tremendous amount of money to
inate it. During the disastardous fire season of 1970 a large
tus grove located in what is now Village Park in Encinitas lite
exploded during a brush fire. For years I had a picture of a d
sheriff running for his life from this fire.
When the original Grove condominiums were proposed for thi
the sane arguments were brought up then as are now being brough
now, to save the grove. As the fire chief I made the same point
provide road acce am making now. The more you thin this
an adequate water supply the less the fir?. This was the first
where the city required fire retardant roofs because of the fir
posure problem.
From the west side of Monroe Street to Crest Street, it is
ticularily hazzrdous because of the steep bank , and the lack o
adequate water source on Crest for fire fighting, If, during a
tana condition, this portion of the grove catches fire there is
strong possibility that houses on Crest may be lost, and every
with a shingle roof to the west and north west of this area woil
dangerously exposed.
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A few years ago during Santana conditions, Sam Clemente lo
homees, and had over 200 roo$ fires despite the fact that there
50 fire engines mustered in advance, caused by what was basical
grass fire! Carlsbad does not have the resources riadily advai
to handle a fire of the magnitude that is possible from this ha
Eosp Grove
I have no connection or acouaintenance with the developers
proposed project, but anything that will help to thin out the g
and keep the underbrush from building up will go a long way tow
lessening this extremely dangerous fire and life hazard. I car,
stress too heavily that if 453 trees are removed, t'ilat tney not
placed with 530 similar trees. Ekplace them Freferably with fi
tant drought resistant type trees. They are available.
I find it ironic that Item fl on this aqenda is to ap-;lrove
termination of excess liability insurance. Based on previous c
acknowledgement and the action pertaining to the conditions of
velopment of the Grove Condnrniniurns and this letter, I believe
would be in an untentable position should a fire develop in the
and a number of houses and or lives be lost.
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March 13, 19;
City Council
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, Ca. 92008
Re: CT 85-23/CP-320
Hosp Grove
Honorable Councilmembers:
The Buena Vista Lagoon Foundation is concerned ab(
potential erosion from construction projects that coulc
result in more sediments in the lagoon. The above reft
enced case is certainly one very near to the lagoon arr
where any effects can be seen almost immediately. The
Board of Directors has therefore asked me to provide
comments for your consideration.
I have reviewed your agenda bill and the Planning
Commission Resolution containing recommended condition:
for approval of the project. I commend your staff for
their concern with the erosion control problem. This
property is certain to have all the usual problems dur
construction as well as many special one due to the
steep, heavily wooded terrain and the imported fill di.
unfortunately general in nature. The burden for appro.
of specific solutions is placed on the Planning Directc
with the slope landscape and irrigation plan and the
City Engineer with the grading plan and street improve]
There are provisions for guarantees by the developer
that the requirements will be met but the exact nature
of the guarantee is again left to staff discretion.
to your staff will assure the public of the City of Ca.
intent to provide for adequate erosion and sediment co!
as well as to mitigate the tremendous visual impact th<
cannot be avoided if the project is built.
Conditions 10, 13, 14/15 & 30 relate to a detailec
slope landscape and irrigation plan, tree plan, and gu(
antees. The "Tree Plan" is presumably intended for in(
sion in the landscape plan with provisions for damages
(Cond.14) and 5-year bond (Cond.30). A reasonable cas1
The conditions for approval are necessarily but
If you approve this project some clear direction
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CT 85-23/CP-320 Hosp Grove March 13,198C
deposit should also be specifically required in order to
assure payment of any damages for improper tree removal and
to provide for emergency maintenance and corrective action
on landscaped areas.
Condition 15 provides for replacement of trees on a
tree-for-tree basis. It is common in revegetation plans
approved elsewhere to require at least a three for one replz
ment in order to result in a survival rate of one for one.
Condition 40 provides for temporary erosion control
measures during construction and for their maintenance.
Cash deposit and bonding are again required. The period
of time and amount of cash deposit should be sufficient to
prevent the types of erosion suffered at the South boundary
of this project on the East side on Monroe St. The drainage
structures and siltation basin at that location have not
been adequately maintained. The slope has been washed out
and several cubic yards of additional sediment have been
sent downstream. These types of project conditions must
be enforceable and enforced in order to do any good.
ation basin is to be removed and that a new replacement
desiltation basin is to be constructed as approved by the
City Engineer. I presume this to mean the permanent basin
at Marron Road and Monroe Street is to be removed and replac
with another. Some clarification of intent and provision fc
maintenance would be reasonable for this very necessary stri
The State Attorney General's Office has previously suggestec
that each property owner in the drainage basin should keep 1
own sediment on-site in order to avoid damaging the downstrc
state property, Buena Vista Lagoon. It would seem prudent i
maintain and adequately replace any existing permanent struc
as stated in this condition.
project conditions.
Condition 44 seems to recognize that the existing desi:
Please consider these comments for incorporation into p2&
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27% CarlsDad Boulevard CARLSBAO, CALIFORNIA 92008 Carlsbsd s Oldest Real Estate Firm
Feb. 23, 1986
Mayor Mary Casler
A forest is not just trees, but an essential part of mankin
ecosystem:
In considering the potential plan for many low rental units
the Hosp Grove, I am dismayed at the probable damage this m
bring to Carlsbad. First, it will continue in the distruct
of this bit of wilderness all to quickly lost by unfortunat
planning. Trees, as well as offering their beauty, help to
clean the air, offer an inviting shelter to birds and small
creatures and help to maintain the small hills and valleys.
This grove, planted in 1907, cannot be replaced in a few ye
as promised.
I am reminded that a number of years ago, it was offered to
City for purchase that it might be developed into a park th
could give some of the benefits to Carlsbad that the farsig
gift of Balboa Park gave to San Diego. Financing had even
arranged. Sadly, the timid and short-sighted Council lacke
the ability to make such a judgement. Much of the ensuing
velopment in the lagoon portion of the tract has been of gr
benefit to Carlsbad. Happily, much of the forest has been
ed to stand.
It is known that many of the already hundreds of units in t
area are vacant and owners are lowering their rental requir
ments to get them filled. I wonder how the first tenants 1
that.
The anticipated density may add to the crime element that i
already making it's presence in this part of Carlsbad. Man: ' paved acres will certainly add to the need of costly run-of 1 control while traffic increases add to the current problems
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a: am a Realtor, operating the oldest office in Carlsbad and
is a joy to sell homes in Carlsbad. This City is very, ver;
special and it is vital that we do our utmost in cautious ai
thoughtful planning to keep it the jewel of North County, :
have enjoyed seeing it grow from 700 souls in 1926 to over -
present 45,000, because it has kept the 'small town' graciox
atmosphere so often destroyed as villages become towns,and 1
is completely unknown in cities.
We have much land to develop, many others wish to enjoy the
priviledge we have in living here. Let us grow with thought
consideration of the needs, and certainly of the examples we
set for future citizens to enjoy,or leave in dismay.
Carlsbad can double it's size and still be the finest city i
this state. Please help to keep it one we will all be poud
to have had a part of begetting to the future.
Most sincerely,
Kay F. Christiansen
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2882 Woodridge Circle
Carlsbad, California 92008
March 1, 1986
TO: Carlsbad City Council
fR0N : Concerned HomeoMner s
SUBJECT : Proposed tlosp Grove Devefopment
Case File CT 85-23 CP-320
The undersfgned honieownefs residing tn the Car’!sbad-boodridge ttomeowr
Association, including the Los Arboles recent addition under developn
by McKellar Development of La Jolla, wish to express serious concf
regarding elements of the proposed Hosp Grove Development adjacent
Marron and Monroe Streets.
First, residents are concerned about the effect: the increased den!
will have on existing nearby streets such as Monroe and tlosp Aver,
which at rush hours are already suffering .;roblems such as he
traffic flow and excessive speed.
Second, Hosp Grove is a Carlsbad landmark and ariy further erosion of
beauty and environmental impact should be studied carefully bef
approvals are considered.
Third, the economic effect that five years of 2’16 three-level carpor
units, rather than condominiums, would have on property values in
area should be investigated and projected.
Fourth, there .is concern as to what environmental effect the proj
would have on the siltration basin located on the west side of Mon
near f4arron.
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DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS:
Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR:
Tvi-P;tv, pasj.A--+- -_. I- .- --- .-e-z ... <ciIc~ .+Li rat sniy be kappier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizms of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a
alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? Will the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR :
Tri-City residents will not only be happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the aiea iiirw is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizws of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune . . . “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR:
Tri-City residents will not only be happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and’to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizens of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? Will the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple.
MARION BERTIN Qcertnside
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Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR:
Tri-City residents will not only be happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizms of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? WiU the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR:
Tri-City residents will not only be happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizws of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a &ad-ear ts people trjing to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? Will the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizens of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm anbpp&tk+z.
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Help save Hosp Grove
EDITOR:
Tri-City residents wiil not osiy be hsppier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizens of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep
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from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune . . . “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable
6at will happen to the wildlife? Will --\ /the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN
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EDITOR:
Tri-City residents will not only be happier but prefer a ‘-wx4cqxuenE211 place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst
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more units of housing right at your most
BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizws of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a
it: Idy1i,g S” GAt.‘Lb.SS ,‘.CIT alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? Will the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple.
MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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EDITOR :
Tri-City residects will not only be happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,’’ providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming . . . and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizens of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep
thjg prnj--t milch on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
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EDITOR:
Tri-City residents vi!l not QQ!~ he happier but prefer a “housing development” in place of the age-old and beautiful Hosp Grove.
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity, The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelming ... and to add over 200 more units of housing right at your most BUSY traffic section in town ... does not seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
What is the city planning commission thinking of? Certainly not the quality of development they promised the citizqs of Carlsbad. In fact ... they have tried to keep this project much on a secret level, secret from the residents and have turned a dead-ear to people trying to express their alarm and opposition.
Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique ,and pleasurable place to shop.
What will happen to the wildlife? Will the Buena Vista Lagoon be next? Readers ... raise your voices. Let the city of Carlsbad know Hosp Grove is for the peo- ple. MARION BERTIN Oceanside
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It is impossible for me to believe that our
This is one of Carlsbad’s “city jewels,” providing a rare spot of nature in the midst of teaming humanity. The problem with traffic in the area now is overwhelmin
seem to be for the “betterment of our resi- dents.”
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Please, Blade-Tribune ... “a newspaper for the people” ... help us save a small and beautiful piece of nature that the area res- idents and visitors have enjoyed for generations and is a part of making Plaza Camino Real a unique and pleasurable place to shop.
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