HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-11-04; City Council; 8811; Request to convert Monroe Tennis CourtsCIT‘”0F CARLSBAD - AGEND”91LL
COURTS TO AN INDOOR SOCCER
FACILITY 11/ 04/86
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Authorize staff to investigate entering into a Use Agreement
for the Monroe Tennis Courts as a temporary site for an
indoor soccer facility and direct staff to return with a Use
Agreement with “Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad” (ISOC).
ITEM EXPLANATION:
On October 21, 1985 the Parks and Recreation Commission authorized ISOC to construct and operate, for a one year trial period,
an indoor soccer facility on the two (2) northern Monroe Tennis
Courts, at their expense. A trial basis was recommended in
order to evaluate the recreational needs within the community
for this sport. The Monroe site is owned and operated by
the City.
Based upon the number of participants that are enrolled in
ISOC, the president of ISOC feels a need exists to expand
the indoor soccer facility. Currently the court is less than
regulation size and cannot accommodate regulation adult use.
On May 12, 1986 staff received a written proposal from ISOC (Exhibit 1) requesting permission to expand the soccer court
in order to accommodate adult and youth participation. Stating
the success of Indoor Soccer as the reason for expansion,
the request addressed the possibility of a lease agreement
with the City allowing the facility to be run as a non-profit
enterprise by ISOC. ISOC has applied for State of California
non-profit status, which is pending.
The ISOC proposal was reviewed by the Commissions Special
Project Committee and the Park and Recreation Cornmisshn
(Exhibit 2). Realizing that the soccer court expansion would
eliminate the remaining two (2) tennis courts at Monroe and
acknowledging the concerns of tennis and soccer enthusiast$,
a decision on this proposal was deferred pending further
investigation. The Bmk and Recreation Commission directed
staff to identify alternative sites for tennis and possibly
the indoor soccer facility using available City property.
Staff presented its report (Exhibit 3) to the Park and Recreation Commission on September 15, 1986. Considerable Community input by Tennis and Soccer enthusiast was heard
at that time. The Commission voted 4-1-1 to recommend the
following:
1. Approval of ISOC’s request to expand the soccer facility to include the entire Monroe site.
2. That the public use of the High Schooltennis courts include
the hours of 12:OO p.m. to 1:00 p.m., as well as after school use.
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3. The City light the nine High School courts, using Fiscal
Year 1987-88 CIP or other funding; and
4. Staff negotiate a Use Agreement with ISOC that includes
repayment by ISOC to the City for lighting the tennis
courts with monies generated from use of the soccer
facility, and that ISOC agree to return the tennis courts
to their present condition upon vacating the courts.
An additional motion was made to direct staff to continue pursuing locations that could house the indoor soccer facility on a permanent basis. The motion passed unanimously.
STAFF ANALYSIS:
A CEQA review of this project will be required. Contingent
upon council concurrence with the Park and Recreation Commission
recommendation, a Conditional Use Permit and an Environmental
Impact Assessment will be pursued.
Staff recommends pursuing the Use Agreement with ISOC only
after they receive non-profit status. Conditions of a Use
Agreement will contain but are not limited to:
* Liability Insurance Requirements
* Revenue To The City
* User Fees For Non-Exclusive Use
* Duration of Agreement (Four Years Maximum With Cancellation Clause)
* Maintenance
* Hours of Use
* Restore Courts To Original Condition Upon Termination
FISCAL IMPACT
There is no fiscal impact to the City in setting up the soccer
facility. However, depending on the accuracy of the revenue
to be generated by participants, ISOC estimates the City could receive $15,000 annually. Additionally, if the courts were
converted for soccer use, a savings in tennis court maintenance
would be $2$00'0 annually.
Due to the Park and Recreation Commissions concern for providing
increased use availability of tennis facilities, they recommended
that the City light the nine tennis courts at Basswood and
Valley. Staff will request funding ($60,000 est.) in the Fiscal Year 1987-88 CIP budget process.
EXHIBITS:
1. ISOC proposal - May 5, 1986.
2. Park and Recreation Commission Minutes of July 21, 1986.
3. Staff Report of July 11, 1986.
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NOTE FROM CITY CLERK:
Also attached are exhibits furnished by individuals opposed to conversion of
the courts. They include:
A. Petitions consisting of 8 pages.
B. Other materials including Fact Summary from Irene Strause with attachments.
C. Copies of pictures.
May 5, 1986
Lynn Chase
Parks & Recreation Dept. Carlsbad, CA 92008
RECEiVED MAY I 2 1986
De'ar Ms. Chase:
Isn December, 1984, I proposed that the City of Carlsbad, convert the Monroe St. Tennis Courts to a "Speed Soccer" Court. (INDOOR SOCCER) and
attempted to show that it would be a valuable asset to the City. However, at that time, the Commission was unsure about the feasibility of such a facility and 'shelved' it.
In November of 1985, I requested a smaller area in which to build a small
demonstration court funded entirely with private funds. This was approved
md the Soccer Court was erected. INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC)
purchased an Indoor Soccer System from the defunct 'LAS VEGAS AMERICANS' and a portion of the court is presently set up and in use at the Monroe
St. site. Unfortunatly, it is inadequate in length for adult play.
however, The "INDOOR SOCCER" court was an instant success! Of course with
success comes problems! i.e.: 1. Demand for use of the Court. (Who decides, City or Club) 2. Size of the Court is too small. (Reduced team size.)
3. Supervision & maintenance of operation.
We have gemonstrated both the tremendous demand and the economic
feasibility of a regulation INDOOR SOCCER COURT. The facility will be in
use year around and will be the envy of all of North County. Not only ful.lfilling a public recreation need, but making a profit while doing so!
We are asking you to accept the following proposals;
1. Allow INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC) to expand the court
immediately. by removeing the center fence and extending the SOCCER COURT another ninty (90) feet into the existing tennis courts. This would eliminate the two (2) remaining tennis courts, but the very small number
of players currently using these courts could be accomodated at the nine
tennis courts at tine corner of Valley & Basswood St. This woiild also
leave a small area at the end of the SOCCER COURT for teams to warm up
while awaiting their turn on the court.
2. The City of Carlsbad would take over the facility and reimburse
I.S.O.C. for the cost of the system,(see attached cost breakdown) or, The City would lease the land to I.S.O.C. who would then run the facility as a private enterprise.
Attached please find a schedule of estimated expenses, and revenues, and
costs involved for the City to take over and operate the facility.
Thank you very much for your help and consideration in this matter.
Sincerely
EXHIBIT 1
1' INDOOR SOCCER OF- CARL$BAD
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Lynn Chase Parks & Recreation Dept. City of Carlsbad
This list of revenues & expenses are only an estimate, and would vary accordingly if operated by the City of Carlsbad, or if operated as a
Private Enterprise.
I.S.O.C. has invested approximately Forty Thousand Dollars ($40,000.) to date and would expend about Eight/Ten Thousand ($8/10,000.) more to expand the court to regulation size. Therefore the City could take over the court completely finished at a cost of approximately Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.). It would allow additional use of the facility if it were lighted, however this would cost approximately Twenty-five Thcgssnd Dollars ($25,000.) more. At any rate the City would receive a
very attractive (and profitable) facility on a 'turn key' basis.
The projected costs and expenses to operate the facility annually are:
1.
2.
3.
4. 5.
6.
TOTALS
- ITEM LOW (No Lights) Labor $35,000. Insurance 8,500. Uniforms (Shirts) 2,500. Referees 10,000.
Debt (Amortized 5 yrs) 12,480. Maintenance & Utilities 2,400.
$70,880.
HIGH (With Lights) $40,000.
10,000.
4,200. 15,600. 16,200.
6,000.
$92,000.
€rimary Revenue would accrue from player fees, (Forty dollars each) and would vary depending on the number of teams (games) scheduled. i.;ithout lighting the facility you could schedule eight (8) games each
Saturday, eight (8) games each Sunday and two games each week night,
(lo), for a total of twenty-six games per week. Each team would consist
of ten (10) players, so each game would be twenty (20) players.
Therfore; 26 Games, times 20 players, times $40., equals $20,800.00. If you play 10 week seasons, you could have five sessions at a total revenue of $104,000. If you play an 8 week season, you could have six sessions at a total
revenue of $124,800.
If the facility were lighted, you could play an additional 16 games per
week resulting in additional revenue of $12,800 per session. This would
be an annual increase of $64,000. or $76,800. Lighting the facility
would be a good investment.
Either way (lighted or unlighted) the facility is a profit maker!
Unlighted $104,000.00 $70,800.00 $33,200.00
Lighted 168,000.00 92,000.00 76,000.00
Annual revenue Annual expenses Profit
Even if revenue is 33% lower, the facility will break even and provide
a much needed public facility.
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Chalman Wright called the Mectlng to order at 5:06 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
present - Chalrman Wrlqht, Cmmisslonen Cont I, Oahlqul st, Donavan, Morrfwn, PopovLch and Regan.
Absent - None.
Star f Prueiit:
Dave Bradstreet, Olrector of Parks and Recreatlon
Keith Beverly, Admltutratlve Arrlrtmnt
Lynn Chase, Recreatlon Suprlntendant
PUBLIC OEN FORUM:
There war no one present wish- to address the Canmlrrlon durlng the publlc open forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minuter of the t-ed nr6tlng of 3me 16, 1966, were
aDproved as corrected. Cmmissloncr Oahlqulst rqqcsrtd a charqe on page 5, where it statd: "there sbuld not be
any rutrlctlotu put on the came". She statd she had said "any ratrlct tons".
4WROVAL OF AENDA:
Chairman Wrlqht rtatd there would be an additbn to the Agenda urder CanAtttee Reports, d rqort Ira thb Golf Course Study Carittee. H. rtrtd wd8r Addltlonal
donrt ion.
Rusinesr, Addttlond Landscaping-El Fucrte Park.
The Agerdr was approved as arded.
Business, Ita A would h the aCmtd= Of a 5500
Cmmirsioner conti rqqcsstd dn It- UldU? 4ddltlanal
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Camisstoner Conti was Wpolntd Scribe for this %etlng.
UNFINISbED BUSINESS:
A. Scribe Report
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8. park RequLrcments - Southwest badrant ~Sd~lS~
Dave Bradstreet, Dtrector of PdrkS and Recreation, gave
the staff raport on this itan. He stated Canission
directlon was to work rith Sarnnls to acqdre lad sane where in the Southwest quadrant. In dddltlon, the
Commission rantd addltlond lnfonatbn rspardlq the
Mr. Aradktreet referrad to the CIP Booklet, Including the
report for all the Parks and Clty projects. Hc stated It
rould be revlercd by CarnciL ad the pubh for ftnd
dd0ptlOn tmmrroa evenirq.
report, Attachmnt 0 In the packet, the SaRmis requtrenmnts for fees or land, information on population,
acres requtrd, ad the current lad lmentoy. The Sands
project would not offset the deficit in the nuder of pdrk
acres In the qwdrant, hut Sads may dedicate mre than
they are rqdrd. Mr. Bralstreet statd he hab given the Conmission Intonrtlon on the hudcyt rlth two cases, one rlth the City Growth Managemnt Plan, ad one rlth the
Cltizena' Lnltiatlve. If the Citizerr' fnitlrtlve Is
passed, there dl1 be a differenC wt as far as mney
development. '
Mt. Brsbstrset stated he was qolq forward with the Cornmission's direction to work with Samfs Prqmrtiea to acquire land somewhere In the Southest quadrant adjacent
to the HPI Developnent. -If th_ls _I? not possible, then Lard would be sought ddfdcant to the proporad school site.
He adhd nsgotldtlom had not std?td dS yet.
Bradstreet stated he would met tommrrow with Jon Brig*
of Sivmls Properties. Once he mets with Hr. Brlggs, ad
ha an alternatlve, he would like the Slte Cmafttee to
mbetinp.
Chrlmn Wrlght stat4 by come(lus of the Caafssion, Hr.
8radrtr6.t Is to contime the nogotlatiom with Smds
properti-.
Chalrnrn Wright stated thr Slte Ccmmfttee would conrist of
Connlsslonen Regan, Dahlquist ad Popovich.
fw\dlngo
He referred to the outllne
dvaildbb for the dCqdlitfOn Of pIrk land for
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rei- th. fhdfqS drd ndce d r-rf dt the tlat
C. lndaar SoccerlMonrocl Street Tannls Courts
Lynn Chase, Recreation Suprintedent, gave the stlf rgort, rderrlrq to her memradur, In th. prckot. She
relteratd the tsansdatlnm contalnd thereh ad gdve
the discussion and 9-y.
It was detealnd the s0c-r searon hd eded at the
present the, ad adults are uslnp the carts at the
present tlmo. However, they are noC sultbh for that us. hurry. in league play on the carts Ira FO~N~CY on.
Hr. Courtney stated the semn *auld begin qaln In tb strtd there *auld be 216 chUCsn InvolvOd -
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In answer to CornmissLon qlery, Hrs. Chase stated a Use Agrement tikes tlme. If the soccer cwrt 1s to be
expanded, this sbuld be done before the end of the year,
ad It would be necessary to start work on the agreement before it Ls expanded. However, the work would ne4 to be
done in November. In the meantime, the tennls carts
remain open. There are to be no tennis classes this fall. They will be rescheduled to Laguna Rlviera and La Costa
Canyon. '
Commissioner Dahlqutst conmntd about the six tennis
court5 at Valley 3r. High ad asked why they had not been
lmproved. At the present the there are no nets and the
courts are not usable.
Mrs. Chase said the nine courts at the High School are
better courts. Commissioner Dahlqutst contirued, statlng
thls could be an optlon. She would llke to have Parks ad Recreation check on those courts dt Valley Jr.High and see
what could be done with them.
Chairman Wright reiterated the hlstnry of the itm, stating the Cornmisslor, had agred to allow the lndoor
soccer group one year as a trial period on two courts.-,.--
Two courts were to be used for tennls. This one-year
trial period will be up October 26, 1986. One optlon 1s
to sell the City the lndoor soccer faclllty and let the
City run it. Another option 1s to have the soccer people lease the tennis carts and expand the progran.
Ramona Finnila, 4615 Trieste Drive, addressed the
Commission as a der of the Eoard of the Indoor Soccer
Club, a der of the Board of CAAA and a tennls player. Ms. Finnila statal the sire of the soccer courts does
llmlt the play on those courts, and as a tennis player she
hated to lose the courts. It is difficult to flnd a court
to play tennis ad it is expensive to play at one of the
prlvate clubs. She expressed the hope that the City and
the Parks and Recraatlon Departmnt would provlde mre
tennis courts. Hs. Finnlla mntlond the courts to be built at Calavera Hllls Park and Macario Canyon, ad felt
that tennis courts at those sites would be very welcane.
She stated there sbuld be mre lessons at Laguna Rfvlera at nlght. There is an allen problem ln that park ad the
restroans are used by them and they sleep on the benches.
This is not a good place for children to be at night.
Finnila suqqcsted there be mre supervision there with lessom given there. She concluded her renarks, stating
Carlsbad needs to provide both types of courts, both
soccer and tennis carts for the residents and the tourists.
Glenda Hasseelo, 3299 Donna Drive, representlq Tri-Cfty
Tennis Patrom, addressed the Canmission stathg they sponsor many youth tennis progrms ln North County.
told of the tournanents sponsord by this group and stated
she hated to see any courts lost to the people of the pnmnlty. Mrs. Hasselo stated she would answer any
questions &art the youth groups.
In answer to Canmlssion qmry raprding nuder of Carlsbad children in this program, she stated there would be the approximately 25% in the present tournamnt.
Ms.
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The ndme on the spdting sllp was Frank Clark, however Yr. Clark was not present and Mr. Molone spoke fn his place.
He stated he lived In Ocearuide, and stated he was not
against soccer, but felt there was a need to exist wlth
them. He stated he was a tennis player dnd felt it would
take at Least $50,000 to build the typ of soccer facllity
needed. He wondered why the soccer people wanted to iise
the tennis court, when they could build a building on
public Property and not push the tennis players out of
their courts.
Mark Rifkin, 2521 Via Naranja, used a wail chart to show
tennis court needs, Indicating the City of Carlsbad 1s
deficlent in the nuder of courts needed for the populatlon. He stated a good ratio would he one court for every 2,000 people.
twenty-five courts, but only seventeen are available.
This includes the carts now being used by the Indoor
Soccer group. If two additional courts were removed, this
would only increase the deficit as far as tennis carts. Hr. Rifkin stated the two courts at Monroe had been
resurfaced and were in good condition.
additional list of names totalling 136, who have signed
petitions. He stated there were many tennis pldyeC5 here
tonlght.
as many ths ds possible each week and do need all the
courts.
hnes Courtney, 0914 Avila, addressed the Commission
stating that he does llke tennis and has a son that plays tennis. He stated he had been asking for ballfields and
tennis courts, as wcil as active recreational areas. Mr.
Courtney stated the tennis courts had fallen into
disrepair at the time the requsst was made to use them for
indoor soccer. They had a trid perlod of one year, with
a portion of the site turned over to them to build a
demonstration court. Mr. Courtney stated lt would not be
too involved to repair the courts now being used as soccer
courts.
Mr. Courtney stated he would Like Council to build nm
tennis courts. He requested this Commission adopt stat f
reccnmcndation and let the indoor soccer proceed with a facility for youth and adults.
In amwer to Commission qestlon, Mr. Courtney stated they needed to use the Monroe courts because they did not have
money to purdase a site or pave any area. The mny they
did have was used to buy equipment for the Indoor Soccer Program.
Hr. Courtney stated the Valley courts would present a problem as far as parking.
people to& a survey to detennlne the nuder of tennis players dlsplaeed, and there were carts available for the
tennis players. He stated the Indoor Soccer Pcqrm would
maximize that facility and serve more citkens.
This would mean Carlsbad would need
He had an
They. would all like to contlme playing tennls
He also added the soccer
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Ceoff 4mur, 3255 Monroe, spoke to the Commission,
statlnq there are 15 to 20 regular tennis players that
play 7 days a we&, year round. rf the tennis courts are taken dray, those people would be forad to go to the Valley Jr. High courts. There dCG people looking for
tennis carts all the time. He felt Indoor socar ad
tennfs could not exist back to back, as the Indoor soccer Is extremely noisy. Mr. Armour felt a mre approprfate sfte for soccer should be lmestlqated.
Carol .Anderson, 2940 State Street, a member of the
Downtown Merchants, agreed there is a need for more tennis
courts. She stated the tourfsts are cuniq into Carlsbad in large nutvben and bringing a lot of dollars to the
area. She did not rant any courts to disappear.
Tom Folks, 466 Canino Del Parqm, addressed the Canmission
as a new resident and a tennis player. He stated there were not many nlght courts unless you belong to a private
club.
Commission Regan inquired about the posslbflfty of
lighting the nfne High School courts and staff explained
there was no the frame for that improvement.
Mr. Bradstreet stated he would look into the possibflfty
of a grant for that llghtfq. Next year thfs would be In
the CIP program.
Canmissioner Dahlqdst inqdral about pay lighting on
Laguna Rivicra Courts and Hr. Bradstreet reconmended that not be done. Vandalfsm outsefghs any possible benefit.
Canmissioner Dahlquist contirued, stating the possfbflity
of the sLx courts at the Valley Jr. High would be a help for the tennis players. sucassful and she felt the City sbuld ffnd more areas
for tennis carts.
Commissioner Donwan stat& she did not feel the decision
sbuld be based on econany, ds long as it displaces a large nuder of people. She stated there is a sqmnt of less-than-senior-cititen age group that needs to have
recreational CacLlitie available. She stated she was
definitely in favor of kecping the tennis carts and
improving them. 4nothcr spot should be found for Mr.
Courtney's Indoor Socccr Praqran.
Commission discussion deteninsd the Canmissionen were in favor of contfrulng the Indoor Socar Praqrm, but feel
there should be -re rock done toward finding another spot more appropriate for the indoor soccer. The Cmmissfoncn
felt they could not make d decfsfon for the school
District. There sbuld be tmre negotiations to provfde more tennis carts as well as another spot for the indoor socar.
The indoor socar has been
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Chairman Wriqht stated there were eiqht spedters on this Item, and he felt the lswe had not been defined. He summarized the cannents, stating there was a group of retirees or senior citizens mentbnd four times. Tourism was mentioned by four different people, and the reluctance to lose tennis courts was mentioned five ths. He stated the petitions should be looked at carefully. There are nine very good courts within walking distance of these two courts'.at Monroe. indoor socwr are not compatible and he stated the following options: 1). To continue this status qu, until October at which time the one-year trial period ends. 2). Table any action untfl October and swdy and request mre irput to look for alternatives. 3). Approve ISOC's request to expand their facility to use the four courts at Monroe. 4). Deny the request.
Commissioner Morrison asked whether Mr. Bradstreet would
work with Hr. Courtney to deternine the possibility of the Valley 3r. High courts or other options. Hr. Bradstreet stated that would be proper direction fran the Commission.
The indoor soccer is very popular but not popular with tennis players.
Chairman Wright stated there is a grass area next to the swimming pool that could possibly be used for soccer.
Commissioner Morrison stated the Special Projects Committee would like to work on that.
Parks and Recreation Commission tabled the decision on the Indoor SocarlMonroe Street Tennis Court situation unt l.l
the September Meetinq, with the provision the Special Projects Committee and staff work toaether to find
alternative sites for tennis, and possibly the Indoor Soccer Program using available City praperty.
Chairman Wright stated the tennis and
0. Historic Presetvation Comnission RequesttCalavera ms Conntnity Park
Dave Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation, gave
the staff rqort, stating the Historical Society wished to save some trees and the cistern site in Calavera Hills Park as shown on the map on the.wal1. relocating the amenities, and said this could not be done. The Historical Society agreed to place a plaque in the bulldlng to note the site.
8rian Robertson, Historic Presetvation Commission, addressed the Commission stating if the park were to be redesignad, perhgs the grading could be changed to save
the site. Dave Bradstreet reiterated the park is not going to be redesignad. They are just goinq to use alternative methods of grading to save mney. amenities are to remain in the Park, per Council direction. RSI is looking at drains and less rock removal to help save mney. be no redesign of the Park.
RSI looked at
All the
Hr. Bradstreet mphaslzed there will It will just be a different
-method of grading.
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TO : PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
VIA: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
FROM: LYNN CHASE, RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD PROPOSAL
BACKGROUND
Commission approved the request of Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad
(ISOC) to convert a tennis court at Monroe Courts to an
indoor soccer facility on a one year trial basis, from
10/27/85 - 10/26/86) SEE ATTACHMENT "A"
ISOC submitted a proposal on 5/12/86 to:
1. expand the court to accommodate adult player needs;
to use the entire four tennis court site.
2. have the City take over the court and equipment,
run the soccer program, and to reimburse ISOC
for their investment of $50,000 approximately
3. - OR to lease the entire Monroe Courts site to ISOC
so that ISOC may operate the facility/conduct the
programs as a private enterprise. SEE ATTACHMENT "B"
ISOC provided fiscal information regarding:
1. investment in court furnishings/equipment
2. expansion of facility estimates
3. projected revenue/expenditures, with/without lights
4. proposed cost to the City to "buy out" ISOC
SEE ATTACHMENT "C"
RECOMMENDATIONS
Staff's recommendations are:
1. Agree, in concept, to convert Monroe Courts site to an indoor soccer facility, instead of tennis courts.
2. Direct staff to negotiate and draft a Use Agreement between the City and ISOC.
3. Require ISOC to provide liability insurance naming
the City as additionally insured for an amount to
be specified by the City.
If no liability insurance is available, ISOC must no longer use the site, effective immediately; when ISOC provides the liability insurance the use of the courts continues, as agreed, for the
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remainder of the one year trial period.
4. Use of the two remaining tennis courts will continue
until such time as the courts are no longer useable
or available for use.
5. City will perform minimal maintenance and will defer
or cancel plans for site improvements.
FISCAL IMPACT
The City stands to gain financially from a Use Agreement
with ISOC:
1. Annual net profit presently = $2,000
2. Projected revenue from ISOC, first year = $3,000 - $10,000
SEE ATTACHMENT 'ID- 1 'I
DISCUSSION
Staff looked at many concerns, including:
1. Site analysis, present use by tennis and soccer groups
2. Loss of tennis facility and alternatives
3. Benefits of acquiring indoor soccer facility
4. Benefits of Use Agreement for private enterprise (3-5 years)
SEE ATTACHMENT I'D-2"
SUMMARY
Expanding the indoor soccer court provides a new recreation
opportunity for youth and adults, at no cost to the taxpayers.
The City will lose four, old-but-usable, tennis courts and
gain the opportunity to generate revenue that could be used
to acquire, develop, improve other facilities, ie. lighting the nine high school tennis courts.
Staff recommends approving ISOC request to expand the court and recommends entering into a three to five year Use Agreement that includes escalating revenue to the City, each year.
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F. TennT Indoor Soccer Faclllty at the Monroe Street
Chairman Wriaht explained the Commission was
concerned about the possibfllty of this project making %oneyn and 31m Courtney had ken invited
to this meeting to explain this request.
3im Courtney, representing the Indoor Soccer of
Carlsbad referred to a letter written to the Commission. facility and stated that at the end or a year's trial, tf the facility had not been successful,
they would then replace the equipment to return
the space to a tennis awt. k. Courtney said the courts are in bad condition at the present time, and are being re-surfaced. At this pint, there wa5 a discussion about the courts being re- surfaced I this request uas to bc granted. Mr.
Bradstreet stated there was a misunders tanding,
and the re-surfacing would be halted.
Mr. Courtney assured the Commission any money
taken in by the soccer faclllty would be used to
keep the prcqram wing and allow the sponsors to
stop contributlnq out-of-pocket to those ucpemes.
In discussion, it was pointed out these courts are
the last to be used, due to the noise and condition o? the courts. Hr. Courtney explained
they hoped to instill some neiqhborhood pride in
the soccer court, which would kl~ keep the area free of debris. He felt this wwld bc an
important facility for the yoma people as well as adults.
Hc described plans tor the soccer
Parks & Recreation Canmission apPrwed tnt request of the Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad to
convert a court for a year trial oasis.
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Cnairman Hright stated this was now an information
item and not an action ita.
3im Courtney read fran a handout he had distributed
to tne Commissioners, statinq thee is a deficiency
of nine aallfields at the Dresent time. Tne ones tnat are caninq on line will be oractice fields
only, as they cannot be skinned infields. Hc used wall WDS to snow the conceptual olan for Macario Canvon Park which has never been formally aaooted. Cannon Road is win9 constructed at the oresent
time, and Hr. Courtney stated he did not wish to cnanoe the Dian, Dut asKed the Cltv to destan tne Dzrk and Dian for ballfields. he explained tne oarkinq Dlan and Dicnic areas. Ln answer to awry,
ne stated CAR4 was aslcinq the Citv to fund this oroiect, and was not voiunteerino to ccmolete tne orotect itSC1 f .
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May 5, 1986
Lynn Chase
Parks & Recreation Dept.
Carlsbad, CA 92008
RECEIVED MAY 1 2 1986
Dkar Ms. Chase:
In December, 1984, I proposed that the City of Carlsbad, convert the konroe St. Tennis Courts to a "Speed Soccer" Court. (INDOOR SOCCER) and attempted to show that it would be a valuable asset to the City. However, at that time, the Commission was unsure about the feasibility of such a
facility and 'shelved' it.
In November of 1985, I requested a smaller area in which to build a small
demonstration court funded entirely with private funds. This was approved ar.2 the Soccer Court was erected. INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC) purchased an Indoor Soccer System from the defunct 'LAS VEGAS AMERICANS' and a portion of the court is presently set up and in use at the Monroe
St. site. Unfortunatly, it is inadequate in length for adult play.
however, The "INDOOR SOCCER" court was an instant success! Of course with success comes problems! i.e.: 1. Demand for use of the Court. (Who decides, City or Club) 2. Size of the Court is too small. (Reduced team size.) 3. Supervision & maintenance of operation.
We have demonstrated both the tremendous demand and the economic
feasibility of a regulation INDOOR SOCCER COURT. The facility will be in use year around and will be the envy of all of North County. Not only fullfilling a public recreation need, but making a profit while doing so!
We are asking you to accept the following proposals;
1. Allow INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC) to expand the court
immediately. by removeing the center fence and extending the SOCCER COURT
another ninty (90) feet into the existing tennis courts. This would
eliminate the two (2) remaining tennis courts, but the very small number of players currently using these courts could be accomodated at the nine tennis courts at the corner of Valley & Bassimod St. This would also
leave a small area at the end of the SOCCER COURT for teams to warm up
while awaiting their turn on the court.
2. The City of Carlsbad would take over the facility and reimburse
I.S.O.C. for the cost of the system,(see attached cost breakdown) or, The City would lease the land to I.S.O.C. who would then run the facility as
a private enterprise.
Attached please find a schedule of estimated expenses, and revenues, and costs involved for the City to take over and operate the facility.
Thank you very much for your help and consideration in this matter.
ATTACHMENT I'B" /' INDOOR SOCCER OF- CARL$BAD
F'. 0. BOX 22 17 - CARLSBAD, CA 920Q8
5~r-86
Lynn Chase
Parks & Recreation Dept.
City of Carlsbad
This list of revenues & expenses are only an estimate, and would vary
accordingly if operated by the City of Carlsbad, or if operated as a Private Enterprise.
I.S.O.C. has invested approximately Forty Thousand Dollars ($40,000.) to date and would expend about Eight/Ten Thousand ($8/10,000.) more to expand the court to regulation size. Therefore the City could take over
the court completely finished at a cost of approximately Fifty Thousand
Dollars ($50,000.). It would allow additional use of the facility if it
were lighted, however this would cost approximately Twenty-five Thcussnd Dollars ($25,090.) more. At any rate the City would receive a
very attractive (and profitable) facility on a 'turn key' basis.
The projected costs and expenses to operate the facility annually are:
ITEM LOW (No Lights) HIGH (With Lights) 1. Labor $35,000. $40,000.
2. Insurance 8,500. 101000.
3. Uniforms (Shirts) 2,500. 4,200.
4. Referees 10,000. 15,600.
5. Debt (Amortized 5 yrs) 12,480. 16,200.
TOTALS $70 , 880 . $92,000.
6. Maintenance & Utilities 2,400. 6,000.
Primary Revenue would accrue from player fees, (Forty dollars each) and
Kould vary depending on the number of teams (games) scheduled.
!.;ithout lighting the facility you could schedule eight (&) games each
S2turday, eight (8) games each Sunday and two games each week night,
(lo), for a total of cwenty-six games per week. Each team would consist of ten (10) players, so each game would be twenty (20) players.
Therfore; 26 Games, times 20 players, times $40., equals $20,800.00. If you play 10 week s?asons, you could have five sessions at a total
revenue of $104,000. If you play an 8 week season, you could have six sessions at a total revenue of $124,800.
If the facility were lighted, you could play an additions! 16 games per
week resulting in additional revenue of $12,800 per session. This would
be an annual increase of $64,000. or $76,800. Lighting the facility would be a good investment.
Either way (lighted or unlighted) the facility is a profit maker!
Enlighted $104,000.00 $70,800.00 $33,200.00 Lighted 168,000.00 92,000.00 76,000.00
Annual revenue Annual expenses Profit
Even if revenue is 33% lower, the facility will break even and provicie
E inuch nseaed public facility.
ATTACHMENT "C" /
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD REPORT
FISCAL IMPACT DETAILS
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Instructional Class Revenue, Monroe Courts (Supervisor Dee Pope)
216 students generate annual profit - - $ 2,000
Monroe Tennis Courts Expenditures (Superintendent Doug Duncanson)
Average Annual Cost Per Court = $500 x 2 courts = $ 1,000
Court Clean-up: 3 hr/wk - 156 hr/yr @ $5.50/hr = $1,014 Labor
Supplies: squeege, broom, hose, trash containers & liners, nets, tie
downs, signs. = $ 150 Materials
Administrative Costs including
vehicle = $ 250 Overhead
Total Annual Maintenance Cost = $1,414
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USE AGREEMENT POTENTIAL REVENUE - ANNUAL
ISOC Proposed Gross Revenue (unlighted) = $104,000 If 3% of gross revenue (1st yr) = $104,000 x .03 = $ 3,120
If 10% of gross revenue = $104,000 x .10 = $10,400
ATTACHMENT "D"
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD REPORT ..
SITE ANALYSIS
The City acquired the four old tennis courts from the School
District prior to construction of the Swim Complex in 1981.
Two courts are asphalt surface and in poor condition: these
courts are the location of the ISOC field during the one-year
trial. Two southerly courts are concrete, were resurfaced by
the Recreation Division approximately eight years ago. The
court fencing replacement funds were requested by Parks Division for FY 86-87 Budget.
The southerly tennis courts use is:
A. City conducted lessons
Youth, after-school; M & W, 3:30 - 5:30 p.m.
Adults, evening (Summer), M & W, 5:30 - 7:30 p.m.
B. Non-Scheduled - free play use by unidentifed adult
males/females and couples, day-time hours, year-round.
C. High School classes/team practice. Two courts have been
used for "overflow" of students when all nine high school
courts are in use for PE classes (seasonal only) or during
tennis team seasonal need.
A chronology of the Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad development and
use is documented. See Attachment "E".
Staff has observed heavy use of the soccer facility from mid-
February through May 31. The facility is used at the present time for "pick-up games" by adults: no fee is charged at this time according to Jim Courtney, ISOC President.
A copy of the ISOC schedule was provided by ISOC and is attached
to snow the first season's use. See Attachment "F" .
ATTACHMENT 'ID-2"
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INDOOR SOCCER OF C1 ASBAD REPORT CONTINUED.
LOSS OF TENNIS FACILITY & ALTERNATIVES
1. The greatest impact to the community will be the loss of
2-4 playable tennis courts in the north-west quadrant of the city. The loss will be felt by those adults who drop
in for free-play. No staff is present at the courts, so these users remain unidentified.
The public can be notified of alternate sites by posted notice,
press releases, and personal contact by assigning pool staff
to the task.
These tennis players will be directed to the High School
courts, Laguna Riviera courts and La Costa Canyon courts
and in the future, Stagecoach courts. Calavera Park courts,
in the future, will be the choice for play in North Carlsbad.
The Department has prepared a written request to the High
School to approve making three of the nine school courts
available during school hours for two hours, mornings,
Monday through Friday, for use by the Department four hours
per week and for use by the general public six hours per week.
2. Instructional classes for adults presently offered at Monroe courts may be relocated to other courts including Laguna Riviera and La Costa Canyon Parks. This move would reduce
drop-in, free-play, at those two sites. If the School District
approves the request for court use during school, relocation to other courts is unnecessary.
Youth classes now at Monroe, after-school hours, may be relocated to the High School courts except during the school's competitive tennis season. Lessons for youth will not be
scheduled at the High School during the heavy use season:
staff will continue to look for alternative sites including
private neighborhood association facilities and/or local
commercial accommodations.
3. Staff has no recommendation for the High School overflow
use groups.
ATTACHMENT I'D-2"
continued
BENEFITS - INDOOR SOCCER FACILITY
Staff is aware of the growing popularity of soccer and recommends
the installation of a permanent facility. An indoor soccer facility
offers several advantages over a typical outdoor field including:
1. Cost to perform weekly maintenance is less (artificial turf versus growing turf) .
2. Enclosed field of play preferred by novice and experienced players; will provide new opportunity for youth and adults.
3. Permanent field installation on City site identifies Carlsbad
3s a leader in providing soccer fields in North County: closest
indoor soccer field is at Encinitas YMCA.
BENEFITS - USE AGREEMENT
1. Staff recommends a Use Agreement as the method preferred for
acquiring and operating an indoor soccer facility for the following reasons:
A. CaDital to Build & ODerate
Private enterprise can be responsible for the up-front dollars to buy, install, or expand facility; the City
has no plans to include such a facility in the Capital
Improvement Program.
B. City does not presently budget for staff to schedule,
maintain, and operate a facility of this type and intense use. While the Recreation Division could
include staff and funding in FY 87-88 budget request, the private enterprise can accomplish the same ends
quicker and probably at less cost.
C. The City stands to gain considerable revenue from a
Use Agreement at no cost, fi + pr tvJ,
2. Use Agreement Recommendations
A. Duration Recommendation: Minimum three years, maximum five years with both cancellation/renewal clauses.
If the facility proves to be unprofitable to ISOC, Jim Courcney plans to offer the service to the community using volunteers.
B. City Participation: No City funds be expended to install and maintain or operate facility.
ATTACHMENT I'D-2"
continued 1'1
10/21/85
1/86
2/86
CHRONOLOGY - INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC)
Commission approved ISOC requests to convert Monroe Tennis Court to soccer for a year trial basis.
ISOC was proceeding with design, plans and specifications for field when opportunity was presented to purchase all equipment from a defunct team in Las Vegas for an approximate
cost of $30,000.
Community volunteers recruited by Courtney
helped to install the field at an approximate cost of $5,000.
2/15 - 5/31/86 Games played Saturdays with youth teams practicing
during week.
6/8/86 High School kids had 3-4 games.pck-7 7
6/9/86 - Present Youth no longer using site: adults using site
for pick up games weekly; facility too small for adults; in use as best facility available
in North County.
7/10/86 LC:ch ATTACHMENT “E”
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
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- LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOYED TEMPOR USE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON
VE, THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS YHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
AQY
MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF E PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 -ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. VE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- YE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE,THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
* - LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOVED TEt"ORM 9 SE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. VE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- YE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITYVIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- YE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE, THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
-- LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOYED TEMpo&'isE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON
MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. WE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. WE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITYVIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE,THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
-- LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCOER. YE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE,THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
- LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOVED TEMPOR& USE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON PE7
MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. YE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. VE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- YE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
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MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. VE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
VE,THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY
LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOYED TEMPORP USE
USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
AP4 OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON
- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- YE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE, THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY
LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOWED TEMPORaUSE
USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
ARY OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. VE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- VE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- VE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE
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FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- VE,THE UNDERSIGNED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
- Ak'l LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOVED TEMPORIL(USE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF THE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. YE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- YE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- YE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- VE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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SOCCER OR TENNIS ON MONROE ST. COURTS?
* FACT SUMMARY *
-There is a shortage of tennis courts felt by players in the city
today. We have 8 city-owned courts: 2 on loan to Indoor Soccer:
plus the partial use of 9 high school courts during the 184 non-
school days.' We are currently 32% below the standard set by Parks
& Recreation for tennis courts in Carlsbad.
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-Loss of 4 courts is 50% of all city-owned courts. Then we would be
48% below standard. Note: 9 of these courts are restricted 181 days
per year due to school priority.
-High School administration is opposed to conversion of tennis courts.
-High school athletic teachers & coaches want & use Monroe courts.
-Tennis provides free recreation for all aqes any time without facility
fee.
-Indoor soccer costs each player $40. for one 10 week session for
select groups on a supervised field.
-Four new tennis courts will cost at least $80,000, thus the City is
donating $80,000 worth of existing tennis facilities to indoor soccer.
-These 4 courts cover an area of 240 ft. by 100 ft. (24,000 sq ft.);
soccer needs a pad 85ft. by 200 ft. (17,000 sq. ft.) which is a 29%
waste of pavement! A new concrete pad for soccer costs about $20,000
on level land.
-Soccer interests will construct at another site, all they need is land.
-Paved surfaces of the subject courts are not at the same elevation &
must be modified for a soccer field. Further damage will occur when
fastening about 100 soccer wall segments to pavement with 200 spikes.
* OPINION SUMMARY *
-We are already a leading field soccer community with 27 fields in all.
Indoor soccer interests should be patient until a proper site is found.
-A fast temporary or permanent solution - leasing or seeking donation
of a site near car country, Plaza Camino Real, Pea Soup Anderson, San
Diego Gas & Electric or in industrial parks or other private land
where zoning is suitable.
-The loss of tennis courts is a negative response to a growing need for
more courts as indicated by our population increase & the new tourist
promotion of Carlsbad as a tourist destination & recreation resort.
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We contend that speed soccer, a.k.a. indoor soccer, is an
avant-garde sport, a recent spin-off of the traditional field
soccer, which has gained a certain amount of notoriety in this
area due to the success of the championship San Diego Sockers.
Indoor soccer is not, in fact, the sport which is the "most
'popular,sport in the world." To tear down existing, newly re-
furbished facilities which are used regularly to accommodate a . trial sport which promises great potential economic profit lacks
,credibility.
Based on the followinb, we do not think that conversion of
the Monroe Street tennis courts to an expanded indoor soccer
arena is in the best interest of the community, either recrea-
tionally or from a tax-use standpoint.
1. Need for public tennis courts:
a. loss of 4 courts would further increase the existing 32%
court: population deficit in Carlsbad, See attachment A;
b. 2 courts newly resurfaced and in good condition; resurfac-
ing of 2 north courts was halted last year to accommodate
ISOC (Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad); from minutes of P & R
Corn., Oct.21, 1985, paragraph F, See attachment B;
1) Monroe St. courts are used daily, year around by local
residents:
a) used daily in the mornings by a group of retired
residents; this maximizes the usage of these courts
since while other sport facilities are idle all day
long, the tennis courts are being used by a group
of citizens who do not impact the sport facilities
when workin3 people & school children would want to
use them;
b) particularry heavy use on week-ends by working people
& youths
c) relocation of these players would overcrowd other
facilities throughout the city;
2) courts used for Parks & Recreation department tennis
lessons
a) lessons are being rescheduled to other courts in the
city to accommodate ISOC
b! relocation of these lessons causes further loss of
available tennis time at Carlsbad's 4 other courts
located at Laguna Riviera & La Costa Canyon;
c) Mr, Kam feels that moving the youth lessons from
Monroe St. to Laguna Riviera is moving the tennis
away from ready accessibility of the children in
North Carlsbad
3) used by high school for physical education classes &
the tennis team:
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I
had to be used by thgJr. Varsity tennis team this past
fall in order to get the team ready for its tennis
season as the Varsity was using the other courts;
was used frequently as a teaching station before the
soccer arena was put on the north courts,
1/ P. E. classes require more than 2 courts,
2/ classes use them for other court-type games, e.g.,
volley tennis, so use is not necessarily seasonal:
Mr. Marv Cap, Carlsbad High School varsity girls' &
boys' tennis soach, stated, "Loss of the 4 Monroe
Street tennis courts will hurt the high school tennis
program because local availability of tennis courts
encourages the participation of youth who feed into
the high school tennis program. 'I
Note: there is no Jr. High school tennis program.
4) used by visitors & tourists; currently tourists staying
at the Carlsbad Inn are being referred to the Monroe St.
courts for their tennis:
5) used as overflow for local tournaments;
c. Tennis provides free recreation for all aqes at any time.
d. a sport which can be played by all members of a family to-
gether without regard to age or size;
e. a sport one can enjoy when he has time:
1) does not require participation on a team or adhering to
2) important point for visitors & tourists;
3) important for working people & week-end athletes;
loss of 2 of tk Monroe St. tennis courts was a contributing
factor.
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A. - strict schedules;
f. In 1986 Carlsbad did not have a youth tennis league. The
3)
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the youth tenniS league has a spring & fall session last-
ing 6-10 weeks e'ach depending on the number of teams,
loss of 2 Monroe St. courts left only 2 courts in the
area for week-end players to be diverted to from the high
schools courts where the youth league would play,
Mrs. Glenda Hasselo,of Tri-City Patrons, feels that
taking 12 to 20 Saturdays from the general tennis public,
in addition to the week-ends used for youth tournaments,
was not in the best interests of the community;
g. Carlsbad has never been able to enter a team in North County
Doubles, a tennis league for men & women 18 & over,
1) encompasses teams from clubs & cities in an area from
Camp Pendleton to Rancho Santa Fe & inland to Fallbrook &
Scripps Ranch;
2) the requirement to enter a team in North County Doubles
is to have 2, good courts available for team play:
3) in 1986 No. County Doubles included teams representing
35 cities & clubs with 140 teams & over 2,000 players:
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2. The administration of Carlsbad High School is against the
conversion of the Monroe Street tennis courts to indoor
soccer .
3. Removing 50% of the already established city-owned tennis
courts is contradictory to the growth plans of P & R and the
City Council to increase the number of courts in Carlsbad.
If the 4 Monroe courts are lost to indoor soccer & the 4 new
courts are finished at-Stagecoach Park, the city will have
made ZERO progress for its past several years of planning.
4. Expense to City:
a. approximately $86,000 immediate loss, not taking into con-
b. cost of lighting high school courts from city funds, $32,850;
sideration the value of the land, See attachment C;
low estimate :
to be repaid by ISOC, when?
1) the cost to light L court for 1 hour with minimum lighting
(6 lights) is $1.40,
2) therefore, to light 1 court for 1 hour a day for 1 year
costs $511; to light 9 courts costs $4,599 per year for
only 1 hour a day:
c. utility costs, on-going expense:
"
d. non-mcnetary expense - loss of good will of a large tennis .-
community as well as non-tennis playing citizens who are
taking a keen interest in what is going on & why;
e. fees from agreement with ISOC are supposed to off-set these
losses to the city & in fact, generate income,
1) at Mr. Courtney's proposed rate of gross income, $104,000
per year, with';3% to 10% being returned to the city, it
would take from'28 to 8.6 years for the city to break
even from its loss of the 4 tennis courts:
2) in order to generate this amount of income indoor soccer
would have to operate at maximum capacity for 50 weeks
of the year:
15. Mr Courtney said if the indoor soccer program was not profitable
ISOC could turn the program over to volunteers to run. In that
instance who would:
a. pay the liability insurance - projected to be $8,500 annually?
b. pay the maintenance - projected to be $2,400 annually?
c. pay the negotiated fee to the city for use of the tennis
d. replace the funds used to light the high school tennis courts?
e. pay for the reconversion to tennis courts?
court site?
6.
7.
8.
9.
The lighting of the Carlsbad High School tennis courts should
not depend upon trading 4 tennis courts to ISOC.
a. lighting the courts would provide after-work tennis facilities
b. courts would need qood lights: minimal lighting (6 lights
c. if there is sufficient public need for the lighting of the
for people in the North section of Carlsbad;
per court) is not adequate lighting;
high school courts, the City should assume this responsi-
bility & fit it into its budget planning;
d. Mr. Cap, the high school tennis coach, is against lighting
the high school courts for the following reasons:
1) unattended public courts with lights are subject to
increased vandalism, especially damage to the nets &
wind screens,
2) they encourage unauthorized use such as skateboarding,
3) they attract loiterers & encourage youths congregating
in the area at night;
Damage to tennis courts:
a. the 2 north courts & the 2 south courts are on a different
ground plane level by several inches, See photo # 1;
1) it is necessary to have a level surface for a soccer field,
2) the level of the south courts would have to be raised to
create a flat surface & could cause damage to the newly
resurfaced courts:
b. about 200 spikes used to anchor the soccer walls & fixtures
would create large holes in the court surfaces, particularly
in the concrete surfaces of the south courts, See photo # 2;
1) patching for reconversion to tennis would cause a blemish
on the tennis court which could cause the ball to bounce
irregularly & enterfere with the normal game of tennis;
2) reconversion to*tennis would require extensive patching
of the courts & would probably require complete resur-
fa cing :
Indoor soccer is not free :
a. fee for playing, projected $40. per player for 8-10 week
sess ion :
b. would the courts be open & available when not in match use
for local kids to kick a ball around? See photo # 3;
Indoor soccer is not a sport for all aqes:
a.
b.
Mr. Courtney stated that a 7 year old was too young to play
speed soccer & he was referred to the P & R field soccer
program;
many adults who participate safely in other sports, e.g.,
baseball & tennis, could not play a physically demanding &
rough sport such as indoor soccer;
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10. Impact on local sports programs:
a,
b.
C.
a year around indoor soccer program would draw from other
seasonal sports & weaken Parks & Recreation programs for
adults & youth;
the winter-spring slot indicated for youth play would
interfere with existing school sports programs, e.g.,
track, basketball, baseball & tennis for jr. high & high
school youths:
coaches know that an athlete cannot participate in two
sports at the same time;
11, Impact on neighborhood:
a. a proposed 520 players per week plus officials, families,
workers & spectators using rest rooms at the swimming pool
or without any facilities when the pool is closed;
b. a proposed 1300 soccer matches a year with its accompanying
traffic congestion:
c, increased noise every evening & all week-end year around to
residential area;
d. arena has sponsor advertising signs which are unsightly to
the over-all complex;
e, uncontrolled accessibility of large numbers of unidentified
adults to the high school campus & swimming pool area:
f. would monopolize the parking area shared with the swim com- '
plex, high school activities & the cultural center:
g. increased litter & debris in the area from food vending
stands :
12. Would indoor soccer, at this site, benefit the City of Carlsbad?
E!
a, what would be thekatio df resident to non-resident use of
a facility which is' unique in North County?
1) to a private enterprise this ratio is not relevant, more
participants, more revenue!
2) this ratio should be important to the Parks & Recreation
department when deciding whether to allow an existing,
used & needed facility (the Monroe St. tennis courts) to
be destroyed (converted to speed soccer);
3) high non-resident usage would be an important issue to
local taxpayers;
b. the anticipated high volume usage of this type of facility
makes this site adjacent to the high school campus & swim
complex inappropriate & undesirable:
1) soccer matches would be going on during all of the after
school activities & sports programs of the high school;
2) large numbers of young adults, soccer players & spectators,
would be brought into daily proximity with the high school
students.& youngsters using the swimming pool;
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On behalf of concerned tennis players of Carlsbad & non-playing
citizens who oppose the conversion of the tennis courts at Monroe
Street to an indoor soccer arena, we propose that:
1. conversion of the two remaining Monroe Street tennis courts for
expansion to an indoor soccer arena be denied;
2. the two north courts now occupied by ISOC be reconverted to
tennis and be resurfaced according to the previous intent of
the Parks & Recreation department so that we have 4 good
tennis courts at Monroe' Street:
3. ISOC and/or P & R continue their search'for a suitable area
(new park, private land or ?) where a permanent indoor soccer
arena can be constructed without the destruction of other sport
facilities & displacement of other sportsmen.
Repect f ully submitted,
SK-
Irene Strause, spokesman
3291 Highland Drive
Carlsbad 92008
729-1670
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PARKS & RECREATION STANDARDS FOR TENNIS & SOCCER IN CARLSBAD
Standard for tennis courts in Carlsbad is 1 court per 2,000 population.
Therefore, Carlsbad with a population of over 50,000 should have 25
tennis courts. See Attachment D, #lo.
, Present
city -owned 8 less 4 Monroe courts 4
9
tota 1 17 . 13
- 9 high school partial use -
Carlsbad is 32% below standard for tennis courts.
Loss of Monroe Street courts would be 50% of city-owned courts.
This would bring the court deficit to 48%.
* Proposed Future
city -owned 8+6=14 -4 10
high school pgrtial use - 9
total 23 19
- 9
If, in the future, 6 planned courts are added (4 planned for Stage-
coach, anticipated July 1987, & 2 at Calaveras, no construction
date set) & the 4 Monroe courts are lost there would still be a
loss of 29% of the total city-owned courts & a court deficit of 24%. * See attachment D, # 12.
Standard for soccer in Carlsbad is 1 field per 4,000 population for
youth & 1 field per 6,000 population for adults. See attachment D,#ll.
Therefore, Carlsbad should have 12.5 youth fields & 8.3 adult fields.
** Present Youth Present Adult
soccer
mult i -us e
tota 1
4
13
17 -
** See attachment E.
Fields available for soccer in Carlsbad are:
36% above standard for youth,
20% above standard for adults.
There is no standard for indQor soccer, a new sport.
Attachment A
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Parks & Recreation Commission
. Octokr 21, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
F. Tennis Lourts Indoor Soccer Faclllty at the Monroe Street
Chairman Wrlaht explalned the Conmlssion was
concerned about. the possiblllty of this project making "money" and 31m Courtney had been invltd to thls meeting to explain this request.
Jim Courtney, representing the Indoor Somr of
Carlsbad referred to a letter written to the
Commission. He &scribed plans for the soccer
Caclllty and stated that at the end of a year's trial, lf the faclllty had not been SUCCCSS~U~,
they muld then replace the cqulpment to return
the space to a tennis court. Hr. Courtney said
-the courts are In bad codlti& at the nrm ent tlma, and are being re-surfaced. At thls point, there was a dlscusalon about the courts belnq re-
surfaced If this request wa5 to be qranted. Hr.
and
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the re-surfacing would be hai tcd.
Hr. Courtney assured the Camlsslon any money taken In by the Y)cccc faclllty wld be used to
keep the proqram going and allow the sponsors to
' stop contributlnq out-of-pocket to those expenses.
In dlscusslon, it was Minted out these courts are
the last to be used, due to the nolse and
condltion of the courts. Hr. Courtney exDlalncd they hoped to instul some nelqhborhood Drlde !n
the soccer court, hlch rwld helo keep the area
free of debris. k felt thls would be an important faclllty for the youno oeople as well as
adults.
Parks & Recreation Commlsaion aporoved tne reouest of the Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad to convert a cwrt for a year trial DaSiS.
Vrloht Cont i Da hl oul s t Donovan
Morrison
Pooovich
Aman
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Attachment B
FISCAL IMPACT TO CITY
-1. replacement cost of 4 tennis courts
lost to city:
informal estimate, Ray White const.
.. 2. resurfacing of 2 south Monroe St.
courts in 1985.
immediate loss
3. lighting of 9 high school courts
with monies from CIP funds with
minimum lighting (6 lights per court),
staff estimate
4. utility costs of lighted courts
a, it costs $1.40/hour per court for
minimum lighting: therefore to light
1 court for 1 hour a day annually
costs $511,
costs $1,50/hour per court.
b. adequate lighting (8 lights per court)
$80,000.
6,000.
$86,000
$32,850.
on-going expense
NOTE: Staff does not consider the cost of lighting the courts
as an expense to the city relevant to this discussion.
See attachment D, #13.
Proposed Income:
1. % of gross annual revenue of ISOC (conjecture)
2. use agreement
3. repayment of CIP funds for high school lights,
repayment schedule
$3,000 - 10,000
?
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Attachment C
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.. To: Lynn Chase -
From: Irene Strause
Lynn, I jotted down these notes from our phone conversation of
last evening. Would you let me know if I have gotten everything
straight or if I have misinterpreted anything which we discussed.
YOU
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2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
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11.
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13.
have my number but just in case, it-is 729-1670.
Thanks, \ P e-. G-
Lease agreement with ISOC would generate funds for high school lights.
ISOC is a non-profit organization & any profits would go back into
the sports program.
ISOC would be using the courts for only 4 years.
Loss of Monroe courts for 4 years is worth getting the high school
lights because tennis usage is so low on these courts & lighting
the h.s. courts would make tennis accessible to many working people.
The Monroe courts are almost always empty & only 8 players have
been identified on the courts by the personnel at the swimming
pool who have been keeping a count.
Indoor soccer players would be of jr high & high school age & adults, c,7\<,i,<a* .*** s. C./L%..h ('L 'cJ--' p.,L I' ,a i no children. Cn) <y - i f-
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The soccer arena is not used more at this time because it is too
small for adult use & the youths don't use it because it would in-
terfere with field soccer which is being played now.
If ISOC does not get the use of the 4 courts to expand the arena
to full size, Mr. Courtney will most likely move his program
elsewhere, perhaps to another North County city.
Carlsbad has 15 or 17 tennis courts depending on if the 2 courts
already occupied by ISOC are counted. Staff does not count these
courts .
The tennis standard for Carlsbad is 1 court per 2,000 population.
Standard for soccer is 1:6,000 for adults, 1:4,000 for children:
the City differentiates between the two.
4 courts are planned at Stagecoach Park, scheduled,completion is
July 1987. 2 courts are planned at Calavera, no construction
date has been set. All 6 new courts will be lighted.
Expense of utility bills for lighting the h.s. courts should not
enter into this matter because these are automatically absorbed
by the City as are the utility bills for La Costa Canyon & Laguna
Riviera .
Attachment D 3'3
MINUTLi
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PARKS AN! RECREATION COMMISSION
Page ~OMMISSIONERS September 15, 1986
Commlssloner Regan inquired whether there should be a
tlme perlod set up to e\aluate I.S.0.C's use of the
tennis courts.
the Commissioners that I.S.O.C. has already been evaluated. and has been found to be successful.
In rvsporrsr to a qucstlon by CommI~slonrr Morrlsori, I.)nri
Ch.isc: clarlficd that staff recommended thdt the Clt) riot
conduct the soccer program.' It was preferred that it be
run on a lease arrangement.
Commissloner Lawson moved that the motlon on the floor be
amended to lnclude that the feasiblllty of relocating the
indoor soccer facliity on a permanent basis be inltlated. The amendment to the motlon was seconded.
It was the consensus of the majority of
Comnlssloner Dahlquist requested that the amendment be
consldered separately from the motlon. The mover and the
seconder of the amendment aareed.
Chairman Wriqht gave the reasons why he would be
ahstainlno to the motlon on the floor. As the athletlc
dlrector at Carlsbad Hlgh he could not support the motlon; however, as Chairman of the Commission, he could
understand the needs of the comnunlty.
The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended ( 1 )
approbal of .I.S.O.C's reque3t to expand the courts to the
full Monroe tennis courts; (2) that the public use of the
BasswoodIValley tennis courts be expanded to Include the
hours of 11:OO a.m. to 1:OD p.m.; (3) that the City llght
the high school's tennis courts at Basswood and Valley
uslng CIP funds or whatever funds are available; and (4)
that staff negotiate a use agreement with I.S.O.C. to include that they repay for the costs of llghtlnq the
tennis courts out of monies generated by them, and that they return the courts In thelr original state upon thelr vacating the courts.
Comnlssloner Lawson stated that he could not support
losing two additional tennis courts and continuing with
the same short-range arrangements.
Chairman Wright stated that the City makes a delineation
between youth soccer .field and adult soccer fields. The
"City has-four youth soccer flelds and thirteen other fields that are available. There are three adult soccer-
fields and seven other fields th-
added-at the Cltv Council has adoDted its own
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standards which supercede the national standards. are one youth soccer field for ever) 4,000 people, and
one adult soccer field for everv 6.000 Deoole.
They
Followlng further discussion, the Parks and Recreation
Commission directed staff to look into permanent sltes for the location of the lndoor soccer facllltles. ;
RECESS
The Parks and Recreation recessed at 8:12 p.m. and reconvened at 8:37 p.m., with all members present.
Chairman Wrlqht announced that "Additional Business - A."
will be taken prior to the other agenda ltems at thls time.
Attachment E
Wright
Dahlquls t
Lawson
Morrison
Popovlch
Reqan
Wright
Dah lqulst
Lawson
Morrison
Popovlch
Regan
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5
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8
9
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NOTE:
1. With this type of utilization, when & where do the teams practice?
2. Other than officials, there would be a turnover every hour.
3. This is ffbilledfl as a North Caunty Facility - hard to attract
26,000 soccer players a year from the population of Carlsbad.
4. Where are the public facilities (restrooms, etc) for 78,350 folks each year?
Attachment F
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alley Junior High Sch$
11 ' 619-438-6602 'Public, 2 Coiirts Closes at dark
Oceanside High School
'Public, 6 Courts Closes at dark
619-722-8201
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*South Oceanside Olympic Health &. Elementary School Fitness Center
Public. 2 Courts Closes at dark -Openevenings
619-439-7143 619-438-8330 pv hj -{e Private, 5 courts
Carlsbad Convention & Visitors Bureau P.O. Box 4297 Carlsbad, CA 92008 (619) 729-1786
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Brochure currently being sent oul : to encourage tourism in Carlsbad.
Attachment G-1
At t a c hment G-2
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Golf
Oceanside Golf Course 825 Douglas Dr Oceanside, CA 92054
Public, 18 holes, Res. Req’d.
Circle H Ranch
8797 Circ le I< Dr Escondido. CA 92026
Public, 18 holes
619-4 33 -13 60
Courilry Cliib
619-749-287 7
El Camino Country Club 3202 Vista Way
Oceanside, CA 92056
Private. 18 holes, Res Req‘d.
Escondido Country Club 180rJ W Coutil~-y Club I,n
6 19- 75 7.2 100
thLf~lldltf~J, (,A (sL(J2(J
619-746 4212
PriVdtC. 18 hiJleS, Res. Keq’d.
FallbrOok (;oIf &. CoUlllry
ClUIJ
2757 Gird Rd Fallbrook, CA 92028 619-728 8334 Public. 18 holes, Res. Keq‘d.
La Costa Hotel & Spa CIJSta Ikl Mar Rd
01‘) 4.18 ‘/Ill r’rivate, ~b holes, Res. Keq’d.
Lake San Marcos Resort 1750 San Pablo Dr San Marcos, CA 92069
Private, 18 holes, Res. Req’d.
Lake Sail Marcos Executive Course 1556 Camino Del Arroyo,
I..tkt: hii M,III:(J:,,
CA 9LOW
PuIJic, 18 Iioles.
kl.:, I:( #I’ll
(;dt~~,~J~ll~, (.A ‘Jz()r)8
619-744-0120
619-744-WJ92
82
c2
B2
c2
B1
B2
B2
B2
Lawrence Welk Village 8860 Lawrence Welk Dr
Escondido, CA 92026
Public, 18 holes
Lomas Santa Fe Executive Golf Course 1580 Sun Valley Rd Solana Beach, CA 92075
Public, 18 holes
619-749-3000
619.755-0195
Meadow Lake Country Club 10333 Meadow Glen Way E Escondido, CA 92026
Public, 18 holes
619-749-1620
Oaks North Executive Course 12602OaksN Dr
San Diego, CA 92128
Public, 27 holes 619-487-3021
Oceanside Centre City Golf Course 1 Country Club Ln , Oceanside, CA 92054
Public. 9 holes 619-433-8590
Osbrink Golf Club 525 Rincoit Ave Escondido, CA 92025
Public, 18 holes 619-746-2526
Pala Mesa Resort 2001 s llwy 3‘)s
bdlbrook, (:A OLOLX
Public, 18 holes,
Res. Req’d.
Rancho Carlsbad Golf Course 5200 El Camino Real, Carlsbad, CA 92008
Public, 18 holes
Rancho Penasquitos Country Club, 1.1155 I*eii,ibqiiifos Dr
S~ii 111eg0, (:A OLIL9 619 279-0700 r>utdic, 18 holes
619-728-5881
619-438-1772
c2 Rancho Santa Fe B3 ,WavepHills &eych
Communit’yBark .+ e (a +. &
Public, 2 Courts 7 CL~
619-438-5571
Golf Club
La Granada, Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067 619-756-3094
B3 Private, 18 holes Capistrano Park
San Luis Rey Downs B1 Public, 2 Courts Country Club Closes at dark 31474 Golf Club Dr , Bonsall, CA 92003
Public, 18 holes, Res. Req’d
San Vicente Country Club D3 eLi4-1726 Carlsbad High School, 24157 San Vicente Rd
Res. Req’d.
619-439-7143
c2 619-758-3762
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c3 Raniona, CA 92065 *Piiblic,Hcoiirts 9 C-0 -A*
619-789-3477 .,Qoses at dark pur-c?u\ UGe. Public, 18 holes, orclr El Camino High School 619-757-8550 Torrey Pines Municipal R3 Golf Coiirse
Pines Rd , La Jolla, CA 92037
Public. 18 holes
B2 11480 N. ’rorrey
619-453-0380
c2
R1
Whispering Palms B3 Country Club Via de la Valle; Rancho Santa Fe, CA
‘Public, 6 Courts Closes at tin1 k
John Landes Park 619-724-2666
‘Public, 3 Courts Closes at &irk
La Costa Canyon Pa
‘Public. 2 Courts
Closes at dark
I
La Costa Racquet Club 92067
Public, 27 holes,
Res. Req’d. T)pcncvcniiigs
619-438-9U.l 619-756-2471 ,, : 3 &e Private, 23 Courts
’I2 Lagina Riviera Park Shadowridge Golf Club
Vista, CA 92083
Private, 18 holes,
1980 Gateway Dr 619-438-5571
619-727-7706 Public, 2 Courts Closes at dark
Mira Costa College B2 Res. Req‘d.
619-757-2121 *Public, 6 Courts Open evenings
North River Road Park
. Tennis
Balderrama Community 619-439-5877 Center Public, 2 Courts 619-439-7340 Closes ut d.irk
t’iiI4ic. 2 Courts
B3
Closes at dark
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1200 ELM AVENUE
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92008
Office of the City Clerk
October 29, 1986
TELEPHONE:
(714) 438-5535
CONVERSION OF MONROE STREET TENNIS COURTS
The subject item has been scheduled for the City Council meeting to be held on
Tuesday, November 4, 1986.
Council meetings start at 6:OO PM in the City Council Chambers located at 1200
Elm Avenue.
The item is - NOT a public hearing. Therefore, if you desire to speak to Council
on the matter, you must file a Request to Speak form with the City Clerk before
Council begins consideration of the item. entrance to the City Council Chambers.)
limited to five (5) minutes each when addressing Council.
(The forms are available at the
Also please note that individuals are
If I can answer any questions regarding Council meeting processes or procedures,
please call me at 438-5535.
LEE RAUTENKRANZ
City Clerk
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1200 ELM AVENUE
CARLSBAD, CA 92008-1989
Office of the City Clerk
QCitp of QCarISbab
We have received your correspondence concerning the
conversion of the Monroe Street tennis courts. The City
Council has also been provided with a copy of your letter.
The Parks and Recreation Commission acts in an advisory
capacity to the City Council. Therefore, the matter will be
going to the City Council in the future for their
consideration and action.
You will receive notification when the item has been
scheduled for a Council meeting.
LEE RAUTENKRANZ
City Clerk
TELEPHONE
(619) 438-5535
Irene K. Strause 3291 Highland Drive Carlsbad; CA '92008
William H. Cardner
3450 Woodland Way Carlsbad, CA 92008
Helen Sibert
5'55 Anchor Way
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Richard Cook
2289 Cameo Road Carlsbad, CA 92008
- - Mrs. Eleanor B. Neuman Donna Cardner
6546 Calle Valperizo Carlsbad, CA 92008 Carlsbad, CA 92008
3450 Woodland Way
Alvin A. Neuman
6546 Calle Valperizo
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Evans H. Sibert
555 Anchor Way Carlsbad, CA 92008
3udy D. Braunstein
3230 Piragua Street
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Carl M. Bengs, M.D. Suzi Green
2910 Jefferson St., Suite 100 4065 Syme Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92008 Carlsbad, CA 92008
Mary 6. Haggerty
3105 Blenkarne
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Eleanor 8. Neuman
6546 Calle Valperizo
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Leo & Elizabeth Christian
4961 Park Drive Carlsbad, CA 92008
Gary H. Braunstein
3230 Piragua Street Carlsbad, CA 92008
Mary 30 Jones
Craig Lloyd 3ones 3515 Charter Oak Drive Carlsbad, CA 92008
Phil Everett
4065 Syme Drive Carlsbad, CA 92008
Mi 1 a gr os L it t 1 e ,to h n
1703 Cannas Court
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Miss Althea Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
3291 Highland Drive
Carlsbad, California 92008
18 September 1986
Dear Miss Rautenkranz:
I would like to formally appeal the decision of the
Parks and Recreation commission to recommend to the City
Council turning over the remaining two tennis courts on
Monroe Street to Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad. I feel that
destroying an existing facility which has recently been
refurbished at a cost of several thousand dollars and which
is used daily by school children and residents of the
surrounding area is not in the best interest of the com-
munity.
In-addition, I question the actual usage of the
soccer facility regarding numbers of people involved.
When speaking recently with Mr. Courtney, he told me
there is no youth program at this time. One is due to
be instituted in January. The youths are presently
playing on regular field soccer teams. He also stated
there would be adult matches on Sundays. This does not
seem to be adequate usage to warrent taking two more
tennis courts.
Further, Mr. A1 Kam stated that he does need the
Monroe courts for his Parks and Recreation teaching pro-
gram. By relocating his lessons to other courts in the
city he is cutting down the availability of tennis fa-
cilities to residents of these areas, specifically La
Costa Canyon and Laguna Riviera. Thus, the impact of
losing these two courts would not be localized to North
Carlsbad, but would have repercussions throughout the
city. It would also present a hardship on the youth
who currently are involved in the tennis program as they
would have to find transportation to outlying areas for
their tennis lessons.
I would be interested to know 1) exactly how many
players are currently signed and have paid to play speed
soccer with Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad and 2) the resi-
dency of each player.
Respectfully yours,
Irene K. Strause
Copy to: Mr. David Bradstreet
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6546 CALLE VALPERIZO
CARLSBAD (LA COSTA), CALIFORNIA 92008
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SEPTEMBER 27, 1966
CARLSRAD cIw COUNCIL
1200 ELM STREET CARLSBAD, CA. 92008
DEAR REPRESENTATIVES,
I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE CONVERSION OF THE REMAINING TENNIS
COURTS ON MONROE STREET TO INDOOR SOCCOR COURTS.
CARLSBADS CLIMATE IS SUPERB FOR ALL YEAR ROUND TENNIS AND
WE NEED ALL THE COURTS WE PRESENTLY HAVE AND THEN SOME.
YOURS VERY TRULY,
September 29, 1986
The City Council
City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Steet
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I would like to take this opportunity to strongly object to
the recent recommendation of the Parks and Recreation Com-
mission toconvert the two remaining tennis courts on Monroe
Street to allow for the expansion of the Indoor Soccer
court.
The conversion of the first pair of tennis courts to allow
a one year's test of the soccer facility should have proven
convincingly that this is the poorest utilization of a pop-
ular sports facility in the city's inventory. To allow the
expansion to delete two more tennis courts to this little-
used sport is only compounding the mistake.
The reputed future popularity of this revenue-producing
indoor soccer facility can best be countered by pointing
out that the equipment installed on the present soccer
court came from a bankrupt similar facility in a nearby city.
1 speak on behalf of those tax paying citizens of Carlsbad
who are beyond the soccer playing age but can still enjoy
playing tennis regularly.
Richard Cook
2289 Cameo Road
Carlsbad, CA 92008
3230 PiraC;ua Street
Carlsbad, Ca. 92008
CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL
1200 Elm Street
Carlsbad, Ca. 92000
Dear Representatives,
As a resldent and voter, I resmctfully request that the city
dots not convert the Monroe Street tennis courts into indoor
soccor courts.
We need more tennis courts, not less.
Yours very truly,
Judy D. Braunstein
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3515 CHARTER
CARLSBAD, CA
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OCEANSIDE, OFORNIA 92054 729-db00 619 / 63-6363
1 October b, 1986
bear blayor Casler ti City Council Aembers:
I have been a physician in the area and a resident
of Carlsbaa for many years. My family and now my grana-
ctiilaren have playea tennis on city courts. I am very
disturbed to hear of the proposed tearing down of public
courts to make way for an inuoor soccer club. Tennis is
one sport mthich can be enjoyed by families together, with-
out regara to aEe differences. de should buila more courts
not tear down what we have.
Presently my 11 year old granddaughter is swimming
coinpetitively. I am also concerned amut the proximity
of a soccer club to the public swimming pool.
I hope the City Council can find a way to deal with
this issue witnout the loss of any tennis courts and with
the best intere'sts of all of the -citizens of Car1sba.d in
minu.
A Yours truly,
October 8, 1986 ‘ ‘kc.’’’
TO MEMBERS OF THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL:
I am a resident of Carlsbad on and off for the past 25 years
and have been here for the past 13 years and am very much concerned
about the tennis courts on Monroe being turned into an Indoor
Soccer court. I would like to relate my experience regarding these
tennis courts. I stopped by the Parks and Recreation office in Aug
of 1985 to see if any progress had been made regarding resurfacing
the remaining 2 tennis courts next to the high school. Mr.
Bradstreet was not in and I filled out a request for him to call
me regarding this matter. He returned my phone call and informed me
that resurfacing was to begin the end of Aug or beginning 05 Sept.
I thanked him caying how pleased I was to hear this. I was
therefore quite surprised to hear that the courts were going to be
used for indoor soccer. I called Parks & Recreation again regarding
this and was informed that they were indeed going to turn this
into a soccer court, even though the courts had been resurfaced as
tennis courts, on a trial basis for a year. I even called a
member of the Recreation Board and was informed that this was true,
and I again reiterated that they should be kept as tennis courts.
I do not believe as a taxpayer in this city that tennis courts
should be taken away to make way for a profit making facility.
I also wish to express my feelings regarding the appearance
’ of the outdoor court alongside our lovely cultural center and
high school, it is not very pleasing with signs etc.al1 over it.
I do hope the council will be in favor elg keeping our much
needed tennis courts. Sincerely
Mary B. Haggerty
3105 Blenkarne Carlsbad, CA- 92008 17-
October 10, 1986
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Nenibers of the City CouncZl:
I am iwithg thzis letter tothe CouncSl over my concern of the proposed
removal o€ the Tennis Courts on I.!onroe Street.
I an ~2 i’iomn you. co;iif- ca1.7 ITi.r’dlc ,i;e?t 0;: J’inc;’~ c bit, older mi! 1 use
the Tennis Courts along vdth many of qy friends (ivomen)as well as (men)
severzl -Shes a. veek. I feel, as .;;.ell 2s q,r frii=mi:;s, thc.t ll\‘lomnll, hare not
‘nwn con:.S.dercd at all in this proposed rmov,c,l of the Tds CoWCts for tlic
Ti?2r,or Soccor Courts, which vr- cx m., ‘LIS~.
Women reaL1;jr ask ver-7 P:L$l2 o ’ ~ :)c? city for recreation UTC 20..
t‘ 7 lcl--~e:;. The city provides Fqtball Fields, Baseball Fields, Basketball
Courts, Outdoor Soccor Fields and Tennis Courts for the residents of Carlsbad
and that is pat, BUT the only facilities that Yfomen of qy age and may I add,
Men as vreU, can and do use are the Tennis Courts and perhaps the Baseball
fields.
IYhy take airray our C&s for Indoor Soccor? We are not physically able
to use the Indoor Soccor Cobs and i% really isn’t fair to us.
;Ve women are Homemers and Taxpayers and Voters in Carlsbad and
ire think some consideration should be &%en to us.
Have ’Indoor Soccor but no at the expense of away the Tennis Courts
we women use.
1 am for -door Soccor but I feel it should be built in an mea where
Football, Basketball, Baseball, Outdoor Soccor me played and not where
Tennis is played.
Thank you for your time,
OCTOBER 12, 1986
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
THE CITY .OF CARLSBAD
1200 ELM AVENUE
CARLSBAD, CA 92008
GENTLEMEN :
I AM WRITING IN PROTEST TO YOUR PLAN TO ELIMINATE THE
REMAINING TWO TENNIS COURTS ON MONROE AVENUE ADJACENT
TO CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL. WHEN THE FIRST TWO COURTS
WERE TAKEN AWAY I WAS RATHER DISMAYED THAT SUCH COULD
HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LIGHT OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH PUBLIC
COURTS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ALREADY. SINCE MOVING HERE
IN 1977, I KNOW OF ONLY TWO PUBLIC COURTS BEING BUILT. THEY
ARE IN THE LA COSTA AREA AND ARE USUALLY OCCUPIED. IT WOULD
APPEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF HOW MUCH IN DEMAND THESE
FACILITIES ARE, OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ELIMINATED ANY
OF THE COURTS ON MONROE AT ALL.
SINCERELY, JX
MILA ROS LITTLEJOHN
1703 CANNAS COURT
CARLSBAD, CA 92008
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Dear Mayor Casler and Council Members,
The tennis community of Carlsbad would like to thank
you for your careful consideration of the issues involved
in the dispute over the conversion of the Monroe Street
tennis courts to indoor soccer.
Of course, we were very pleased with your decision to
retain the two good courts for tennis use. We feel that
allowing the soccer program to continue on the other two
courts was a fair decision. It had never been our intent
to deprive our children of sporting facilities. We think
that both the.tennis and soccer interests were addressed
and both will benefit.
Something very positive which has come out of this
issue is that many of the tennis players in Carlsbad have
become acquainted and united. We are forming an information
network. We have learned a valuable lesson, that we must
pay attention to what is happening in our community. We
cannot be apathetic and expect our elected representatives
to merely guess at our needs and wishes.
Once again we thank you for your interest and for the
time you invested in this issue. We appreciated your
replies to our letters and our concerns.
Yours truly,
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Irene Strause, Spokesman
FALL 1986
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
- YE,THE UNDERSIGHED ARE TENNIS PLAYERS VHO ACTIVELY USE THE CITY TENNIS COURTS.
- LAST OCTOBER THE INDOOR SOCCER LEAGUE VAS ALLOWED TEMPOR USE OF 2 OF THE 4 COURTS ON fl R‘/
MONROE ST. FOR INDOOR SOCCER. VE ARE DISTRESSED TO LEARN OF F HE PLANNED CONVERSION OF 2 ADDITIONAL COURTS TO SOCCER. YE VOULD ALSO LIKE TO REGAIN THE USE OF THE 2 LOST COURTS.
- YE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80,000.
- YE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- YE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS ; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS , HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- YE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL,
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- VE ARE NOT AGAINST INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SOCCER BUT BELIEVE THE ORGANIZED SOCCER INTERESTS SHOULD NOT DISPLACE THE PUBLIC USAGE OF THESE 4 NEEDED COURTS VORTH ABOUT $80.000.
- YE VALUE THE CONCENTRATION OF MANY COURTS IN ONE LOCATION.
- YE BELIEVE THE INCREASING POPULATION IN THIS PART OF THE CITY VILL CAUSE CITWIDE CONGESTION OF COURTS; ESPECIALLY ON VEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS AND DURING TENNIS TOURNAMENTS.
- YE THANK THE CITY FOR THE RECENT NEV COURT SURFACES AND FINE MAINTENANCE.
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold
the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the
expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to
the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very 'extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also
determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final
conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of
citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City!
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT I
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks 61 Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to
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The Parks 61 Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final concJusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizensr -the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City1
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT !
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold
the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very -extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined
that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City!
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TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it shou1.d be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis co'irts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City1
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very *extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined 'that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over s'everal months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City1
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to bhe Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very -extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined *that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City1
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT !
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions’s decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very ;extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City!
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT !
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to khe Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very :extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM wi1l"serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City!
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT !
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The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex .
The $arks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
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The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined
that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the ,INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVEF?AL HUNDRED”Critizens,
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PETITION
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks b Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex,
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The Parks b Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City1
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbdd, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT 1
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PETITION
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions's decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks & Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the City!
Therefore, in the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT I
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PETITION
TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD:
The following citizens of Carlsbad, hereby petition the city to uphold the Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Commissions’s decision to allow the expansion of the INDOOR SOCCER COURT at the Monroe St site adjacent to the Municipal Swim Complex.
The Parks h Recreation Commission and City staff did a very extensive study of the use of the Monroe St Tennis courts and determined that they recieved very little use by Tennis players. They also determined that the INDOOR SOCCER program was very successful, and that it should be allowed to expand and grow.
Several public hearings were held, over several months, and the final conclusion is; while the tennis courts do serve a small number of citizens, the INDOOR SOCCER PROGRAM will serve SEVERAL HUNDRED citizens, at absolutely NO cost to the Cityl
Therefore, in ‘the best interest of the citizens of Carlsbad, the best use for this City owned facility would be as an INDOOR SOCCER COURT !
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801 Pine Avenue, Carlsbad, California 92008 729-9291 "Excellence In Education"
October 21, 1986
Councilman Claude Lewis
2030 Basswood Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Councilman Lewis :
It has recently come to our attention that the City of
Carlsbad is considering the conversion of two City owned tennis courts located on the east side of Carlsbad
High School into an indoor soccer facility.
We acknowledge the increasing popularity of indoor soccer and the need to provide a greater number of such facilities
for the community.
We also recognize that there is a significan.': population whose interest would be served by pzovkding such a facility. However, we are opposed to the conversion of the tennis facil'ity to a soccer facility for the following reasons :
1. There currently exists an inadequate number
2. A reduction in the number of tennis courts of tennis courts at the present time.
and increase the scheduling conflicts between
the school and the community in using the Basswood tennis courts.
3. The reduced number of tennis courts will severely curtail the opportunities available to
the Physical Education Department and to elementary students desiring to become skilled in the game of tennis.
We do recommend that the City Council seriously consider
other alternatives of indoor soccer facilities
Assistant Dale J. Mitchell Principal .Print' Wil e/- iam a1 . Dunmeyer
cc: Dave Bradstreet Robert Fisher Marvin Cap CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL 3557 MONROE STREET
Scott Wright Irene Strause k'C
434-1 726 CARLSRAD, CALIFORNIA 92008
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Carlsbad, California 92008
18 September 1986
Miss Althea Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Miss Rautenkranz:
I would like to formally appeal the decision of the
Parks and Recreation commission to recommend to the City
Council turning over the remaining two tennis courts on
Monroe Street to Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad. I feel that
destroying an existing facility which has recently been
refurbished at a cost of several thousand dollars and which
is used daily by school children and residents of the
surrounding area is not in the best interest of the com-
munity.
In addition, I question the actual usage of the
soccer facility regarding numbers of people involved.
When speaking recently with Mr. Courtney, he told me
there is no youth program at this time, One is due to
be instituted in January. The youths are presently
playing on regular field soccer teams. He also stated
there would be adult matches on Sundays. This does not
seem to be adequate usage to warrent taking two more
tennis courts.
Further, Mr. A1 Kam stated that he does need the
Monroe courts for his Parks and Recreation teaching pro-
gram. By relocating his lessons to other courts in the
city he is cutting down the availability of tennis fa-
cilities to residents of these areas, specifically La
Costa Canyon and Laguna Riviera. Thus, the impact of
losing these two courts would not be localized to North
Carlsbad, but would have repercussions throughout the
city. It would also present a hardship on the youth
who currently are involved in the tennis program as they
would have to find transportation to outlying areas for
their tennis lessons.
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I would be interested to know 1) exactly how many
players are currently signed and have paid to play speed
soccer with Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad and 2) the resi-
dency of each player.
Respectfully yours,
Irene K. Strause
Copy to: Mr. David Bradstreet