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MTG. 4/11/89 CHILD CARE: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CITY I
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
1. Consider the Child Care Survey results and supplemental child care
i n format i on.
2. Advise City staff of intent in forming a Child Care Consortium or a Child Care Commission, requesting staff to return with documents implementing Council action.
ITEM EXPLANATION:
This agenda bill is in response to the City Council's request for additional information in the following areas:
1. A San Diego/Orange County child care survey to determine the extent of local government participation in child care.
2. Local school districts response to a City letter to determine their interest in collectively funding and developing a youth commission.
3. Local school districts response to a City letter requesting input in creating either a Community Child Care Consortium, or a City Child Care Commission.
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During April of 1988 the City Council's Child Care Task Force presented its report to the City Council. Based on the Task Force Report, five recommendations were adopted by the City Council. The status of each is show below:
1. ADOPT CHILD CARE POLICIES
Status: The child care pol icies were adopted by the City Council on May 10, 1988 and placed in the City Council Policy Manual, Item #40.
2. ESTABLISH CHILD CARE CONSORTIUM SIMILAR TO THAT OF FUTTSU SISTER CITY COMMITTEE
Status: Thi s agenda bi 11 responds to thi s recommendation.
3. DEVELOP STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE POLICY
Status: The legislative guidelines on child care have been used by the City Council Legislative Committee since May 1988.
4. DEVELOP AND PROVIDE A PUBLIC INFORMATION PACKET FOR CHILD CARE USERS AND PROVIDERS
Status: Completed and is available at the Development Services counter (Las Palmas) and at Research/Analysis (City Hall).
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5. IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDED LAND USE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS REVIS IONS
Status: The Planning Commission will be hearing these items in the near
The following will detail the results each of the Council requests for additional information.
San Dieqo/Oranqe County Child Care Survey
The purpose of this survey was to determine the extent of local government participation in child care. In total, forty-four (44) cities were surveyed. Thirty-four cities or 77 percent indicated they do not currently have any child care programs. Ten cities indicated they have some involvement as follows: Nine cities have a child care commission, or committee; six have a child care program; four have at least a half- time child care coordinator on staff.
The complete survey is attached as Exhibit #2.
Youth Commission
A review was made of youth commissions, using the resources of the League of California Cities, the Child Care Survey and a letter requesting each of the four school districts in Carlsbad to indicate their interest in this area. The survey results indicated that youth commission members are generally 18 years old and younger, and focus on young people's problems. The San Dieguito School District's response indicated, "...the trustees are vitally interested in all programs that affect high school age youth within the boundaries of the school district." The San Marcos District supports the concept of a youth commission, and the Carlsbad District indicated a need to clearly define the responsibilities of such a commission before they could respond.
Carl sbad Child Care Commission/Consortium
Following the completion of the Child Care Task Force's work and review of their final report, the City Council recommended the establishment of a Child Care Consortium with an organizational structure similar to the Futtsu Sister City Committee. As a result of the Council's direction, a proposed 16 member consortium was presented at a subsequent meeting for consideration and formation.
At that meeting the Council requested additional information before taking action to form of a Child Care Consortium. Two of these requests have been discussed above.
The City Council sent a letter to each of the four school districts in Carlsbad, requesting input on the formation of a city child care commission, or a broad based community child care consortium. Additionally, the letter requested input on the formation of a youth commission. The San Dieguito and San Marcos districts responded only to the youth commission aspects of the letter, and the Carlsbad District indicated a preference for implementing the original recommendations of the Child Care Task Force to form a Child Care Commission.
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The City Council’s last action indicated an intent to form a community Child Care Consortium. The consortium proposal was for sixteen members, although the actual membership number is optional.
The City Council also discussed the possibility of forming a City Child Care Commission. The Child Care Task Force recommended a seven-member Child Care Commission.
Responsibilities - Either a community Child Care Consortium, or a City Child Care Commission would be charged with developing and encouraging private/publ ic child care programs, meeting Carlsbad child care needs and to further support, advise, monitor and evaluate child care in Carlsbad. Additionally, they would be charged with working towards furthering the City Council’s adopted child care policies.
Membership - Membership on the consortium could include one, or more, representatives from community interest groups, such as: chamber of commerce, school boards, child care professionals, major employers, citizens at large, planning/recreation commission, and City Council representation. The total number of members is optional. Membership on the commission is limited to seven members.
Staffing - A community consortium, such as the Sister City Committee, requires limited staff support. A City commission would require City staff i ng .
FISCAL IMPACT:
None at this time. Some staff support will be required if the City Council establishes a Child Care Consortium.
EXHIBITS:
1. Child Care Survey 2. Letter from Carlsbad Unified School District to the Mayor, dated November 18, 1988. 3. Letter from San Dieguito Union High School District to the Mayor, dated November 7, 1988. 4. Letter from San Marcos Unified School District to the Mayor, dated October 25, 1988. 5. Letter to Encinitas Union Elementary School District, dated October 14, 1988. 6. Letter to City Council Members dated September 1, 1988. 7. Agenda Bill - Child Care Policy - dated May 10, 1988.
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DATE : JANUARY 16, 1989
TO: ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER
FROM : MANAGEMENT ANALYST
CHILD CARE SURVEY
On November 22, 1988, the City Council requested addition< information on child care in the form of a survey of other citi
to determine the degree of municipal government participation
child care. The results of this survey are presented in thr
sections :
(I) a summary of the survey, listing the questions asked alo with the number and percent of cities respondi affirmatively to survey questions;
(11) a matrix of the ten cities actively participating in t child care issue, showing the extent of each city involvement; and
(111) an appendix listing the cities that responded **no** to a
survey questions.
I. MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT CHILD CARE SURVEY
SUMMARY
A survey of all the cities in both Orange and San Die Counties to determine the degree of municipal governme
participation in child care was conducted in December 1988. representative of the City Manager's Office in each city w interviewed. 77%, or 34 out of 44 cities contacted, answered *In to all the survey questions*.
* The City of Carlsbad is not included in this survey.
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The questions asked, along with the number and percent of citic responding affirmatively are as follows:
Number Answered
Questions Ityes I' fa
1. Does the city have a Child Care Commission, or Child Care Committee? 9 20
2. Does the city have a Child Care Coordinator? 4 9
3. Does the city have a Child Care Program(s)? 6 14
4. Is the program(s) available to both city employees and the public? 6 14
5. Did the city conduct a needs assessment prior to establishing a child care program? 5 11
The six cities that have child care programs are Irvine, 1 Habra, San Diego, San Marcos, Tustin and Escondido. These citit were asked two additional questions:
1. Where does the program(s) fit in the city's organization?
2. How much is budgeted for your child care program and what i:
the source of funds?
All s,x cities responded that child care is administered undc the Community Services Department, a department typically includii Parks and Recreation and various social service activitie!
Responses to the last question are summarized below:
Source of Budset Funds city
1. Irvine $790,000+ General Fund and
Private Sector
2. La Habra -0- Federal Aid
3. San Diego $130,000+ General Fund and
4. San Marcos $15,000 General Fund
5. Tustin $130,000 General Fund
6. Escondido -0- Community Developme
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San Diego and La Habra receive federal aid to provide child ca to low-income families.
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APPENDIX
Cities Responding "No" To All Survey Questions:
San Diecro County Oranse County
Chula Vista Anaheim Coronado Brea Del Mar Buena Park El Cajon Cypress Encinitas Fountain Valley Imperial Beach Fullerton La Mesa Huntington Beach Lemon Grove La Palma
National City Los Alamitos Oceanside Mission Viejo Poway Newport Beach Santee Orange Solana Beach Placentia Vista San Juan Capistrano Santa Ana Seal Beach Stanton Villa Park Westminster Yorba Linda
Please let me know if you would like any additionz
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Unified School District
BOARD OF TRUSTEES
JOE ANGEL
President
JAMES McCORMPCK
Vice Presjdent
JULIANNE E. NYGAARD
Clerk
DONALD M. JOHNSON
Member
November 18, 1988
Claude A. "Bud" Lewis, Mayor City of Carl sbad 1200 Elm Avenue
J. EDWARD SWITZER, JIt. Carlsbad, CA 92008 Member
Dear Mayor Lewis:
Thank you for your letter of October 14 regarding the issul
THOMAS K. BRIERLEY, Ed.D. of formation of a Youth Child Care Commission. Many of thl issues which might be addressed under a youth commission arl
SUSAN-HARUMI BENTLEY, Ed.D already provided for in our community. Presently, thl school district has committed to wide-range services an1 activities for the youth of the city. Through joint effort
JOHN H. ]BLAIR with the city, the district provides drug education throug
Business Servlces the DARE program, an active Parks and Recreation program and an improved working relationship with the Policc
DISTRICT
ADMINISTRATION
Supenntendent
Assistant Supenntendent
Instruct~onal Semces
Assistant Supenntendent
GERALD C. TARMAN
Assistant Supenntendent
Personnel SeMces
CHERYL ERNST
Director As a district, a full range of interscholastic athletic
Elementary Education events is provided. Through the efforts of the Office oi
DEWAYNE L. FEASEL Administrator for Student Support Services, the variou:
Manager social and medical agencies are coordinated to providc assistance to students and their families. The Studenl Attendance Review Board (SARB) actively works to hell students and parents with delinquency problems.
Our city also has an active private sports program, i.e.. Pop Warner, Bobby Sox, soccer, and baseball. Througt involvement with the Boys and Girls Club, the districl provides a place for before and after school child care, This program has now, however, reached the limit of its ability to serve.
Therefore, we feel that before further discussions on the formation of a youth commission can be carried on, a clearer definition of its responsibilities and purposes needs to be
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We do, however, see an increased need for child car( facilities in Carlsbad. The Child Care Commissior recommendat i ons need to be imp1 emented. We need adequatc child care facilities in our community. The mosi significant growth in the schools of the Carlsbad Unifiec School District has been in the K-3 grades. These student: are prime candidates for child care services.
We believe that the district has made a significan' financial commitment and contribution to youth services it our community already. The primary responsibility as i school district is to provide high quality educational services to those students enrolled in our district.
Thank you for consulting with us on this issue.
Joe Angel, President Board of Trustees
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November 7, 1988
Mr. Claude A. laBudla Lewis, Mayor City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, California 92008
Dear Mayor Lewis:
The Board of Trustees of the San Dieguito Union High School District reviewe; your recent letter dealing with the possibility of establishing a youth comnis- sion In the city of Carlsbad.
The Trustees are vitally interested in all programs that affect high school agt youth within the boundaries of the school district. It was noted that tht draft resolution attached to the letter appeared to identify affordable qualit! child care as a high priority. Since the San Dieguito District serves second. ary age students, other issues and concerns currently have a higher calling 01 district time and resources.
The Trustees asked me to respond to the city indicating support for the concepi of a youth comnission and indicating the Board's willingness to participate ai such time as the scope of the conmission deals with issues of concern to sec- ondary age students -
Sincerely, -
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Superintendent
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Claude A. "Bud" Lewis, Mayor City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue Carl sbad , Cal ifornia 92008
Dear Mayor Lewis :
At the regular meeting of the San Marcos Unified School District Governing Board on October 24, members reviewed and discussed your proposea formation of a Youth Commission. They found merit in the proposal and appointea Jim Poltl as their representative in the planning process ana on the Commission, when formed.
Jim is an active member of the Community Services Commission for the City of San Marcos. He has also been very active in a leaaership and
coaching role for the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) in this community. He is a valued member of the Governing Board and his dedication to the youth of San Marcos is highly respected.
When your Council takes further action on the Commission or when planning sessions are scheduled, let me know and we will relay the information to Jim.
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October 14, 1988
Mary Jo Nortman, President Encinitas Union Elementary School District 189 Union Encinitas, CA 92024
Dear Ms. Nortman:
The City Council at its October 4, 1988 meeting, was approached and requested to consider the formation of a youth commission in Carlsbad. Also, the City has bet
working for some time to determine how best to address the issue of child care.
Following a lengthy discussion regarding the formation of a youth commission, tht Council asked me to send a letter to each of the four school district boards wit1
city. The purpose of this letter is to determine whether your district is intert working collectively on a shared-cost basis with the other school districts and 1 city, in an attempt to consider the formation of a youth commission and to get ! district's input concerning child care.
The proposed scope of the youth commission would focus on issues related to chi1 such as: day care, child protection, family counseling, delinquency, crime, and problems. However, the city has not attempted to determine the exact charge or of such a youth commission at this time. I would respectfully request that the board consider the possibility of working on such a commission.
As mentioned, another area of interest which also involves children is child car are currently discussing the merits of either creating a city child care commiss broad community based child care consortium as identified in the draft resolutio (attachment). Your district's valuable input into our deliberations is respectf requested.
Prior to making any decision regarding these two issues, the City Council will b waiting to receive written response from each district. questions regarding this request, please contact Jim Hagaman, Manager of Research/Analysis at 434-2847.
Sincerely ,
If you should have any
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Mayor
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A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLJSHING THE
CARLSBAD CHILD CARE CONSORTIUM RESPONSIBLE FOR ENCOURAGING PRIVATE/PUBLIC CHILD CARE
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WHEFIEAS, the City Council acknowledges the importance of afford
and accessible quality child care; and
WHEREAS, the City Council recognizes the detrimental impact the
of such affordable child care has on the individual, the family, the wo
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WHEREAS, the number of families seeking affordable, quality chilc
services greatly exceeds the current supply; and
WHEREAS, the City of Carlsbad, through its officers, department
officials will take'an active role in the development and promotion of cc
tion ammg parents, employees, child care professionals, employee orgz
businesses, educators, community leaders and governmental officials; a
WHEREAS, the common goal of such partnership is to increase the
bility of accessible and affordable quality child care.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the
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1. That the above recitations are tue and correct
2. That the ongoing Carlsbad Child Care Consortium (C.C.C.C.
hereby established.
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encouraging privatelpublic child care programs meeting Carl5
Child Care needs, and further to support, advise, monitor ar
evaluate child care in Carlsbad, and provide a community for
enable all interested parties to address child care needs. Ti-
shall provide the financial management for ongoing activities,
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4. That the C.C.C.C. shall advise th,e City Council upon request 0
matters pertaining to any child care program or activity.
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5. That the C.C.C.C. shall meet on a quarterly basis unless the cc
determines that additional meetings are needed. Summary report
committee activities and action shall be forwarded to the City Co
That once a year the C.C.C.C. shallpresent to the City Council
review of the previous year’s activities and recommendations for
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future year’s activity for Council approval.
That the C.C.C.C. will be made up of member representing the
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(a) Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce
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(h) Industrial employers 3 memt
1 memt (i) San Marcos School District
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Where appropriate, the Organizations shall select their representati
Mayor of Carlsbad shall select the other representatives
8. That the following officerqs shall be seIected by a majority vote
Consortium and shall serve one-year terms :
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Chairperson - who shall supervise, direct and controi tht
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(c) Secretary - who shall prepare agendas, take minutes, disse
same, record all committee activities of importance and handle all
ters of correspondence. The Mayor shall select the first chairpi
to facilitate the establishment of the C.C.C.C.
That the City Manager shall designate a City staff member to pi
limited staff support to the Committee.
10. Committee members shall serve without any compensation.
11. That Robert Rules of Order shall be observed at all committee r!
72. The meetings of the C.C.C.C. shall be open to the public.
13. That the C.C.C.C. shall adopt any procedural rules it deems n
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CLAUD€ A. LEWIS, Mayor
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ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ, City Clerk
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CH/&IBER OF COMMERCE
September I, 1988
City Council Members
Attn: Honorable Mayor Lewis
1200 Elm Aye.
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Honorable Council Members:
On Behalf of the Chamber Board and Membership, I want to express
our appreciation for establishing the committee on Childcare.
At our August board meeting, we took action in support of the
Childcare issue and will dedicate our efforts to a solution to this growing problem for our working families. We have
designated Elaine Lyttleton as our official chamber representative on this committee. Her address is: 421 (
Sunnyhill Drive, Carlsbad, Ch 92008. We would also like
notification of the meetings sent to the Chamber Office for
possible staff support. Should you need additional names fron
the business community, we will be happy to solicit them for you*
We look forward to working with you and and the talented member, of the ommittee.
Sin er ly,
DON fl- HOYT,
1988 PRESIDENT
CC: Elaine Lyttleton
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MTG. 5110188 CHILD CARE POLICY CITY 1
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Adopt Council Policy No.40 listing eleven specific child care F
to guide future city actions.
ITEM EXPLANATION:
The Carlsbad City Council's Child Care Task Force reported thei
findings and recommendations to the City Council on April 19, I
One of their recommendations was for the City Council to adopt
fic child care policies to express a commitment on the part of
City of Carlsbad to work to encourage the expansion of child cz
service throughout Carlsbad. The City Council concurred with t
Child Care Task Force's recommended policies and directed stafi
return to Council with the policy properly formatted for adoptj
The eleven specific policies are attached and formatted for Cot
consideration.
FISCAL IMPACT
Staff time in preparing documents.
EXHIBITS:
1. Council Policy No. 40
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Page One of Thre CITY OF CARLSBAD
COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT Policv No.
Date Issued
Effective Date General Subject: CHILD CARE
Specific Subject: Child Care Policies Cancellation Date
Supercedes No.
Copies to: City Council, City Manager, City Attorney, Department ai Division Heads, Employee Bulletin Boards, Press, File
PURPOSE:
To acknowledge the importance of affordable, accessable
quality child care as a necessary component of the city's huI
economic growth, and recognize that the provision of child cc:
a collective responsibility to be shared by parents, child ci
fessionals, employers, employee organizations, schools, busii
community leaders and government officials.
1. Need
The City of Carlsbad acknowedges the importance of affordablt
accessible, quality child care and recognizes the detrimenta.
the lack of such care has on the individual, the family, the
place, and the community. The City further recognizes that .
ber of families seeking affordable, quality child care servic
greatly exceeds the current supply.
2. Partnerships
The City of Carlsbad, through its officers, departments and (
will take a positive and active role in the development and 1
of cooperative relationships among parents, employers, child
professionals, employee organizations, businesses, educators
munity leaders and government officials. The common goal in
partnerships is to increase the availability of accessible ai
affordable quality child care.
3. Model
The City of Carlsbad wi2-l work to become a model employer in
being an informed source for the delivery of child care serv
its employees. In order to do so, the City will aggressivel:
prehensively explore all options available to meet the child
needs of its employees. The City will actively seek to demoi
that employer-sponsored child care support systems are a pos
beneficial and cost-effective influence on the work force.
4. P lann'inq
The City of Carlsbad will integrate the child care needs of
who live or work in Carlsbad into the City's land use planni
process. This will be accomplished, in part, through the in
of child care objectives and goals, where appropriate, in th elements of the various Master Plans and Specific Plans.
STATEMENT OF POLICY:
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COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT Policy No.
Date Issued
General Subject: CHILD CARE Effective Date
Specific Subject: Child Care Policies Cancellation Date
Supercedes No.
Copies to: City Council, City Manager, City Attorney, Department an Division Heads, Employee Bulletin Boards, Press, File
PURPOSE
STATEMENT OF POLICY
5. Facilities
The City will review existing procedures and institute change
where appropriate to expedite the approvals and permits requi
for the construction of child care facilities and or projects which include the construction of child care facilities. The
City will investigate appropriate incentives for the developmi of child care services in Carlsbad.
6. Property
The City will be cognizant of child care needs when in the fu
vacant or under-utilized City-owned land or facilities become available. Such facilities, if meeting adopted criteria, cou
be made available to non-profit child care providers by lease or other suitable arrangement.
7. Expertise
The City of Carlsbad shall ensure that appropriate personnel
City departments pos3ess" requisite understanding of, and fami
iarity with, all legal, regulatory and procedural requirement
for quality child care programs.
8. Resources
The City of Carlsbad shall utilize all services available thrc
Federal, State and County funded agencies, in order to enhancc
availability of affordable, quality child care in Carlsbad.
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COU NCI L P 0 LI CY STATEMENT Policv No.
Date Issued
General Subject: CHILD CARE Effective Date
Specific Subject: Child Care Policies Cancellation Date
Supercedes No.
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PURPOSE
STATEMENT OF POLlCY
9. Legislation
The City of Carlsbad's State and Federal Legislative Program
include support of legislation consistent with the intent of
policy and which assist the City in successfully pursuing the
of this policy. In particular, the City of Carlsbad will con
to support State and/or Federal legislation which: seeks to r
the present regulatory complexities relating to child care se
seeks to reduce the burden of insurance costs on other fundin
child care programs, and funding for the construction, renova
and/or maintenance of child care facilities; provides reasona
tax incentives for employers who offer child care services.
10. Policies
The City of Carlsbad shall encourage all employers in Carlsba
address the issue of child care. In particular, businesses w
encouraged to adopt a stated policy on child care.
11. Review
To determine their effectiveness, the City of Carlsbad will a
review all activities, programs and services it has undertake
promote and encourage the expansion of child care services.
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COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON CHILD CARE
Meeting of April 11, 1989
LEWIS: Okay, we have heard three different statements by citizens,
have the report before us, and we have been mulling over this f
quite a while. I think tonight we are definitely going to take
stand one way or another, as to what we’re going to be doin
Comments by the Council, Mrs. Kulchin.
KU LCH IN : I’ll start. I can’t believe it‘s been a year, April of 1988,
know it is, it is. You said that and it’s in our agenda packet. I
ready to move, Mayor. I’m sorry that it’s taken so long. Sta
wanted to go and check and see what other cities are doing, and
think the time has come to act. I don’t like the idea of
Consortium. We have Commissions in the City. We have a Planni
Commission, Historical Commission. We have a Traffic Commissio
I’d like a Commission. I think the idea of looking over the agen
packet, the idea of 14 or 15 people, it‘s just too large. It real
is. I do support a Commission, a seven member commission similar
what we have on our Planning Commission, and leave it up, in ter
of staff, to see who would serve on this. But I think that time h
come to move on that.
I also think they need some help, and I think our staff is .
We‘ve had a lot studies, we just allocated another $15,000 to stL
the Open Space Consultant, that’s 15 and 15, that’s 30. We’ve sp~
$30,000 on that. I think the time has come to perhaps hire somebc
to shepherd these people through, especially through the beginni
parts of the Commission. So that’s what I support. I support
Commission and I support some kind of staff to work with the sei
member commission.
LEWIS: Okay, just a comment. I’m sure when you that staff postpor
this, you meant to say that Council postponed asking staff 1
additional information, because that’s really what happened.
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KULCHIN: Oh, I didn‘t mean to put it on ... I’m sorry, I didn’t mean 1
put it off on staff that they were ... That they were dragging the.
legs, no. No ...
LEWIS: We were the ones that did it.
KULCHIN: No, no. We wanted added information, and if I gave that out, I
terribly sorry and I do apologize. No. But I think the time is .
I mean, look, this is April 11. I think the time has come to movc
LEWIS: Okay, we’re the ones. Alright, Mr. Larson ...
KULCH IN :
LARSON : Yeah, I would agree also. When we discussed this issue beforc
the Consortium, I thought was a good idea at the time, and I’m goir
to change my position on that. I now feel it‘s time for a ... I
is time and it is proper for us to place a Commission in the City (
Carlsbad to address the needs of child care. I think it’s interestir
in the study that was done that 77% of the cities surveyed are doir
nothing. And I think we‘re going to see that number change, ar
we’ll probably see it change, but I don’t want us to be the ones thi
change after it’s gone over the 50% mark. I want us to be one of tt
leaders out there - be one of the first cities that gets in on th-
and helps. Doesn’t become a child care provider, but helps creat
the atmosphere where child care is more accessible, where the chil
care providers can do it in a better atmosphere, and aren‘t constant1
facing road blocks when they do decide and do want to provide chil
care in the City of Carlsbad. So I think that we have to be ver
specific that that’s the role that we’re aiming at - is to be 2
assistant in this process in putting the child care, those who ne€
child care, and those who are willing to provide child care for i
creating a situation where they can get together. Certainly undc
no circumstances that we would be doing it as a provider ourselve:
Yep, we dragged your legs.
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Lewis: Mr. Mamaux.
Mamaux: Well, I think when you take the position, child kids come firs
You have to say there is a need for child care. But I, having co
from the argument always of ''we can't just do something unless yo
willing to pay for it." We have to find a source of money, and we'
always had a shortage of money. I think that's been one of t
reasons we've been reluctant to move forward. I think that child ca
is more important than the Convention and Tourists Bureau. I thi
we need a program. I am going to suggest that in the next budget th
we delete $200,000 from ConVis and provide a budget for child car
and that $200,000 would be seed money. I'd like to ask the staff f
a proposal of budget needs showing staffing and expense of the chi
care program.
As part of the ... And I think if we have a Commission, and
am for a Commission, I think we have to have parameters under whi
they work. I think our obligation has to be pretty well spelled ou
I would like to suggest that the City use the funds that I ju:
mentioned to be obligated and limited to coordinate and provide foi
sites, one in each quadrant, for child care. If we can enterta
thoughts of acquiring and having land whereby we would ask develope1
to build a golf course, and then they would come in and maintain ai
operate it and we wouldn't be in the golf course business, then
think we can take that same practical approach to this problem ai
have the City provide the land, the zoning, for four day care cente'
in four quadrants based on a needs assessment and that would be 01
obligation to child care. We would then take bids, as I would propo
it, from child care providers, from private enterprise, and they wou,
then be the builders of the structures, maintain and operate tt
programs, on a joint venture basis with the City. And the City wou-
then have control over the operation without being in the busines!
And lastly, I think I want to echo the fact that we shouldn't t
in the business of operating child care. And lastly, that this who'
program could cost, well, you know, I'm assuming $200,000 a year, fc
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at least four years. Because you couldn't buy all the land and yc
couldn't do all the studies that you need to do to find ... Becau:
we're running out of land suitable for child care. I would think 01
best sites would be next to parks to acquire an extra acre or whatevc
it would take. But I also believe that this type of a Commissic
should have a sunset clause. They operate better when they know th;
they have to get it done in this period of time. And I am just goir
to suggest that this Commission sunset at the end of four years wit
the idea that they get the job done, get the day care centers workir
and operating, then there may not be a need for a Commission. Tt
future Council would have a force ... be forced to make th;
determination. Because in four year, in my opinion, the staff cou'
handle whatever regulations are between the staff and Stal
requirements. The child care centers can be in operation, and c
could have a nice program going. I would hate to see the City (
Carlsbad get into $790,000 that Irvine's in on one center becaui
that's an abysmal pit that there never going to get out of. I thir
this is a joint venture between the business, the industrii
development of this community, and they have to get together with ui
I think the City can show the lead by saying "We're willing to acquii
the land, zone it, put in the utilities, make it available for tho:
who are professionals in the field of child care." And that wou'
be my parameters for the Commission.
LEWIS: Okay, now one thing about it. Apparently this is the ... We'i
going to go with the Commission route, and this is a suggestion, bi
when we put this back to staff, we would expect more than just th
one alternate that we can look at. It is a good alternate we cou
look at. And once again, the amount of $200,000 and taking that moni
from one source and giving it to another does not mean that we ha'
to spend all of $200,000 just on this one Commission that we can
break it down to lesser amounts if staff recommends as such. But t~
comment made is that we have money available in one source that yl
feel is much more needed in another source, and Council can certain
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look at that at budget time to decide what we’re going to do.
Petti ne.
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PETT I NE : Yes, Mayor. I supported Commission status last year and th
continues to be my position this evening. I would like to see us a
in that manner tonight, and I think there are votes to do that fr
what I’m hearing. I’m intrigued with Mr. Mamaux’s suggestion of
sunset clause. I’d like to hear more information from staff as
whether or not staff feels the job could be done within four year
I agree with Mr. Mamaux that there’s no since having a Commission
the work is essentially done, but maybe that’s something we don’t ha
to decide this evening.
In terms of funding, I would not want to see the Council sele
any part of our budget to cut, or trim, or modify at this point
time. I would like to see us do that in the ordinary budget proce
when the Council has a chance to weigh and balance all of it
priorities for all of the items that are going to appear in ne
year’s budget. But I certainly would support the creation of a Chi
Care Commission. I think its overdue and well needed.
Okay, just a couple of comments that I have on this. I think t
thing that really turned me towards a Commission is once I found t
staff response we have right now, approximately 165 child ca
facilities somewhere in Carlsbad in all four quadrants, and there
still a need that we have to consider because people are havi
children all the time, and they have to have somewhere to put thc
kids while the moms and dads get out into the work force. But t
sunset clause is very interesting, Mr. Mamaux, as presented to tk
Council. If we do include that then, of course, the Council in t
near future, within four years, would decide the issue. But I thi
with 165 units out there somewhere, I think you are going to h;
someone to basically maybe, to continue monitoring these element
But I think the point is well taken that we do not wish to becc
involved at all within the working process itself, just have
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available for those who wish to participate in it. I think thi
there’s no question about, that all five of us have indicated th,
we do support the Commission concept. Mr Pettine, I mean Mr. Mamau:
MAMAUX: I think, I’m not diminishing, or trying demean the need of
Commission at this time.
LEWIS: I understand that.
MAMAUX : I think if you look in the history of cities, we used to have
Public Works Committee, and it reviewed all public works project
and eventually the staff got professional enough that we didn’t ne1
it. And it wasn‘t the fact that they didn’t do a good job, and
don’t mean that at this point in time. I just think that we nev
know what it costs to run a Commission or a Committee. I know th
the Historical Committee or Commission, while doing a good jo
produces probably more paper than any other Commission we have.
that I mean reports yea thick, and that’s okay, but that costs mone
And I think for us to even start a Commission without some idea wh
its costing, what we’re going to do, how we‘re going to pay for i
I think we ought to be careful and not do that. We did that once
the tune of $850,000 a year. And I don’t want to get into th
process again. I think we have to find a place in the budget whe
the money is coming from.
LEWIS: I think the sunset clause is a very interesting conceptual ide
Mrs. Kulchin.
KU LCH I N : I would just like to publicly thank John Mamaux. I think yo
ideas are excellent. I think they’re very innovative, and, you kno
we’re not just agreeing on something. We’re looking at some actio
You are to be congratulated. And you Mayor, those, you and I are pa
the child bearing, or your wife, is past the child bearing time bu
we‘re grandparents and I think your interested in child care, to
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because, soon, within a week, you’re going to be a grandfather. A
it does make a difference, doesn‘t it?
LEWIS:
KULCHIN : That’s okay.
LEWIS:
It’s like graduating from cats and dogs to grand kids.
We have heard from the folks, and we’ve each made our comment
We need a motion. Mr. Larson.
LARSON : Yeah. I’ll offer a motion then regarding our intent to form
Child Care Commission in the City of Carlsbad and directing staff
return with the documents to implement our action on that.
PETT I NE : I’ll second that.
LEWIS: Okay. A question before we go now, Mr. City Manager, that wi
include a total package for the Council as to what we might expe
pertaining to funding, staffing, the whole bit. Is that correct?
PATCHETT : Yes, we can come back with the necessary reports.
About how long would you say?
Well, if we’re able to just come back with a report setting
LEWIS:
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the Commission, we can come back with that fairly fast. We’ll prepa
the Resolution and all of that, and then you can start advertisi
for the applications for people who are interested in serving in t
Commission.
the Commission in terms of budget and cost of operating at a poi
after that, it will be a lot quicker. So, if you want to use th
two-step process, very quick on the Commission.
If you would like us to come back with the material
LEWIS: Okay, then, we’ll do that then.
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MAMAUX : One question, suppose you have something that’s put in place th,
you don’t want to ... You may find you can’t afford?
LEWIS: Okay, what do you mean ...
PATCHETT : I can give you a ballpark guesstimate if you like on what staffii
would cost. There are a coup1 e of a1 ternatives. One is we can absoi
it within the existing staff we have. That one alternate. Anothc
is you can fund it part time or through a consulting contract. AI
finally, if the Council selects you can choose to fund a full til
position and the appropriate clerical support. If you absorb it
the existing staff, what will happen is we’ll be pushing off othc
assignments. It thc
gets to the question of whether you want to fund a part time positioi
a contract, or a full time position. Part time position with cleric,
help and the kind of staffing that would be necessary to meet tl
needs of the Commission is probably around $50,000 a year. Full til
position is probably around $90,000 a year.
I don’t think that would be my recommendation.
LEWIS: I think in my mind, we’re stretching staff right now, and I thii
we should give staff some direction on this, either part time or fu
time. Because I think that if we’re adding new responsibilities
these folks, we should tell them what they can do, and I think thi
if we are adding responsibilities, I think we should have addition,
staffi ng.
PATCHETT : If the Council wants to look at a couple of alternatives (
You don’t have to give I additional staffing, we can just do that.
that direction.
much direction as we need on that tonight.
If its the staffing versus absorbing it, that’s
BALL : Mr. Mayor, there will also be a number of legal documents th
you will need to adopt. You’ll have to add a chapter to the Municip
Code and set up the criteria for members, membership, and so fort1
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Would you like that to come back at the same time for yo
consideration with the report?
LEWIS: I think that the point the City Manager made, we could go ahe
and have the Commission set up and get applications from t
Community. That would be the first phase. The second phase, if y
could have that wrapped up in the second package then we could ado
that at a later date.
MAMAUX : As long as you’re willing to spend the money, and know where it
coming from. That’s the question that I asked.
LEWIS: I think that’s what your going to be telling us in your repor
as to where the money is going to be coming from, and of course
think that the point you made, Mr. Mamaux, as to right now we cou
look at one source, or that the point that Mr. Pettine made, becau
we do totally evaluate all of the programs that are on-going, and 1
have different organizations that are always coming before us askii
us for assistance one way or the other, and that’s where we’re tryi
to make the decision right there.
MAMAUX: But that not’s till August.
LEWIS: That’s not till August. Mr. Patchett is going to explain exact‘
how that money’s going to be funded . . .
PATCHETT : I’ll definitely give you some alternatives, Mayor.
LEWIS : Right. Okay. We have a motion before us.
PETT I NE : One question, Mayor, is staff going to be providing us wit
information on the sunset clause issue? That‘s not a decision we’r
going to make tonight. Perhaps we could get some input from you.
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PATCH ETT : Sure.
PETT I N E : My question was, and I think Mr. Mamaux raises, can this job
done in four years. And I don’t know if staff has had a chance
look at that.
PATCHETT : I don’t know if staff can answer that question either. If t
Council’s going to set up a Commission, given the kind of input th
the Council has given tonight, I think its incumbent upon t
Commission to develop a work plan and phasing that work plan. I thi
that answers a lot of that question. Sunsetting a commission, thoug
is just simply putting the language in there.
LEWIS: Okay. We have a motion before us. Can we vote please?
Note that all five Council persons have supported that
establishing a Child Care Commission.