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DEpT. HD. TITLE: REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION BY THE VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Accept report and direct staff to prepare display of proposed artwork and solicit public comments. I ITEM EXPLANATION
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The recommendations of the Veterans Memorial Committee are as follows:
1. That A. Thomas Schombergls sculpture, Veterans Memorialtg be purchased as the Veterans Memorial for the City of Carlsbad.
2. That the sculpture be placed at the Civic Center.
3. That the sculpture, with an estimated cost of $250,000, (includes estimated transportation and installation costs) be funded as a City-Community partnership. The City to pay one-half the cost of the sculpture, the installation costs and all future maintenance costs. An amount of $125,000 would be raised through donations from business and individuals. Donors would be recognized.
4. The City of Carlsbad plan a display at both libraries asking citizens to endorse or reject the proposed sculpture. If the citizens of Carlsbad endorse the
sculpture, an agreement will be brought back to City
Council for approval. ~
Staff recommends that the results of the public comments be brought back to the Committee for evaluation prior to a
final action by the City Council.
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1 co I FISCAL IMPACT
rl rl 1 b The Committee's recommendations call for a commitment of
$125,000 of City funds to purchase and install the sculpture. Future maintenance costs are unknown.
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.. EXHIBITS
F 1. Veterans Memorial Minutes, dated June 15, 1989 3 2. Veterans Memorial Committee, Selection Subcommittee -
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Report
3. Dedication Program
4. Photograph
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MINUTES
Veteran's Memorial Committee Meeting Thursday, June 15, 1989 - 4:OO p.m.
City Council Chambers, City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue, Carlsbad, CA 92008
Present: Tom Erwin John Mamaux Mayor Lewis Leo Dulacki
Anna Knox Joe Eggleston Jim Stachoviak Robert Sullivan George Heard
Staff: Clifford Lange, Library Director Connie Beardsley, Arts Manager
Absent: Mark Pettine, Wayne Bischoff, Milton Cooper and Joan Mac Enery
The meeting was called to order by Tom Erwin at 4:OO p.m.
Approval of Minutes:
Minutes of the last meeting held June 1, 1989 were approved as amended. Correction: Joe Eggleston was absent at the June 1
meeting .
Subcommittee Report:
Tom Erwin turned the meeting over to Leo Dulacki for the
subcommittee report.
Mr. Dulacki stated that the subcommittee concluded that the most appropriate, and the most meaningful memorial would be a statue. The subcommittee suggested two courses of action (1) to approve the Denver statue or (2) to go out with bids to artists for their ideas on a statue similar to the statue that is located in Denver. The subcommittee did not rule out the possibility of a
functional memorial, sports complex, amphitheater, etc. The ' subcommittee recommends purchase of a statue and if at sometime in the future it is decided to name an amphitheater or other facility, the statue could be moved to the facility, so in effect it would combine the statue with a functional memorial.
Committee Discussion of Memorial:
A suggestion was made, (1) to determine the funding source, and the amount and, (2) go out for bids from artists.
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Tom Erwin asked Connie Beardsley for procedures on selecting an artist and what to expect on going through this type of procedure.
Connie Beardsley said the Arts Commission has established several
approaches regarding procedure, First is a competition, second is a limited competition and third is selecting the artist out right. The parameters set by this Committee would be given to the artist e.g. a representational sculpture. Mr. Schomberg could be invited to submit his piece. A selection panel made up of art professionals and community members would select the artist or artists to work with the Committee.
The questions were asked how long this procedure would take and what it would cost. Connie Beardsley said the cost varies, a San Diego artist could probably do something in wood for about
$30,000. If the Committee wants something in bronze, it would
cost a minimum of $100,000,
Dulacki asked if the City Council has set any limit as to cost for the memorial. City Council is waiting for the Committee's
recommendation before deciding on cost.
Ms. Beardsley asked if the feeling of the Committee was to buy
the sculpture or to come up with a framework in which a panel $ would select a sculptor, taking into consideration all the specifications that the Committee set, such as, bronze, a realistic figure, a budget, etc.
The Mayor and Tom Erwin suggested they would like to proceed with the Denver sculpture and asked how to go about funding it. Dulacki said it would cost $180,000 plus installation and
shipment would cost $25,000, with a total cost somewhere between
$200-250,000, depending on the site. The focus needs to be on where this money is going to come from. Erwin stated the City is providing the land. The Mayor said he feels it is a total
community project, he also said he would hope that the funding
would be a joint effort of the City and the private sector. There will have to be money paid up front in the amount of
$50,000 which the City will pay.
Mayor Lewis asked if it was possible to have the model brought here. Dulacki explained that the Schombergs have the model in Denver but it does not include the base and they are reluctant to
send it without one as you don't get the effect of the memorial
without the base. Mr. Dulacki showed pictures of the statue to
show what the artist means about the effect.
Mr. Erwin asked for the Committee's opinion on the process if we chose to go with the Schomberg memorial. He asked if there would be a problem if the Committee chooses to proceed with the monmument.
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Mr. Stachoviak said he showed pictures of the sculpture to several people and did have some negative comments on it, that it was too morbid. The Mayor stated that in his opinion a memorial is to make people remember the sacrifice.
Tom Erwin asked Ms. Beardsley for her advice, if they chose to put the Schomberg monument out for public opinion. She stated that if the Committee wants public comments about the artwork, the Committee can arrange to have a public opinion box put in the
Library, La Costa Library, newspapers, and press releases
informing the public. It would be helpful to have the artist ship the model here and put it on display for public comments.
The model would give a better interpretation than a photo. The
public would have to be informed of the cost, proposed site, type and description, and a biography of the artist should be provided.
Tom Erwin motioned that the Committee recommend to City Council
and the citizens of Carlsbad to endorse this particular piece of artwork which would be sited at the Carlsbad Civic Center at the approximate cost of $250,000 installed, that the City pay one half of the cost, all future maintenance of the piece would be taken care of by the City and donors would be recognized. At some future date the artwork could be moved to a future site.
Anna Knox seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous. At this time, Tom Erwin thanked Leo Dulacki for the fine work he did in obtaining the information on the artwork.
There was discussion on how to handle the fundraising. One way is to contact Carlsbad merchants and organizations and give presentations at their meetings.
Other Business:
Tom Erwin mentioned that he sent away to National Personnel Records for information and is waiting to hear from them.
It was decided not to schedule another meeting until after the public comments are made. Connie Beardsley will notify the Committee when the next meeting is scheduled.
Meeting adjourned at 4:50 p.m.
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VETERBNS "KRIAL COEilTTEE
CITY OF CARISBAD
SELECTION SUBCOMMITTEE REPCRT #I.
A. SACKGROUND:
1. The Carlsbad City Council. has voted that "a veterans memorial warran further consideration" and appointed a committee to Hidentfly the type of memo- rial, possi5le sites, cost, selection process and financing alternatives".
2. The Committee has resolved that the memorial should honor all. vetsra of the City of Carlsbad, to include those killed-in-action, missing, living and
dead, who have served, or will in the future serve, in the Armed Forces of the United States, either in wartime.or in peacetime; a veteran is defined as any
Person who has Served honorabb in the Armed Forces of the United States (Army,
Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard).
B. SOME BASIC CONSlDERATIONS :
.Lo The Plernorial should be appropriate, in'good taste and, by its very nature, should reflect honor On the persons being memorialized, It shald be
something that the City of Carlsbad, its citizens and the memorialized veterans
can be truly'proud of. If practical and possible, by its uniqueness, the ammo- rial should be such that it will become known and respected even beyond the environs of the City of Carlsbad itself.
2. The City Council has not established any time frame. Hmever, it is assumed that the City Council has focused on the near time frame rather than on the more distant future.
3. The City Council has not established any cost factors. However, it is assumed that the cost mst be reasonable; it is further assumed that the cost will be funded by a combination of public solicitation and appropriated funds .
C. TYPES OF MEiuIoiiIALs SUGGESTED: The following is a listing of the rariour types of memorials suggested by committee members and otkers and considered by
the subcomitteer
1. Monument: A statue, sculpture, or other type of "structure" design-
ed specifically as a memorial.
2. Small-scale functional memorial: Included are: carillon tower, clocl
tower, whale-watching tower,. flower garden'and flag poles.
3. Large-scale functional memorial: Included are: stadium, amphitheater performing Zfts center, library, city hall, and sports complex.
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Do BRIEF DISCUSSION OF' SUGGESTED TYm OF MEMGtIBLs:
1. Monument :
a. By its' very nature, a monument would be recognized only for what it is intended to be - a memorial to veterans. By proper selection, it could
be insured that the memorial was appropriate, fitting, and naornething specialn.
b. It is believed that the cost would be relatively modest and,
further, that a monnment could be completed in the near time fram.
cStatues are quite common in the eastern, midwast and southern
cities of the US; for some unknm reason they are somewhat rare in the West. It is believed that an appropr-late statue would find ready acceptance in
Carlsbad and be financially supported.
2. Small-scale functional memorial t
a. The small-scale functional memorial would probably be t he leaat costly of the memorials considered and could be completed in the near time fram .
b. Regardleks of how well conceived, such a mmorial dght not be
particularly "memorable#. In other words, a carillon,f or example, would prob- ably be recognited onLy as a earillan which happened to be called a veterans
memorial.
3. Large-scale functional memorial:
a. Depending on the type of large-scale functional memorial, it is believed a high expenditure of funds would be entailed, probably rruch larger
than any of the othertypes considered; huwever, it is likely that the entire
cost would be funded through appropriated funds.
bo If the oity now had plans for the development of such a facility, it could readily be designated a veterans memorial; however, it is our under- standing that there are no such current plans for the near time frame. This means ue might be looking into the somewhat distant future.
C. Such a memoripl would be appropriate but, by itsolf, not necessari something special as a memorial.
E. SUSC0"TEE REC-AT I3NS :
1. That the small-scale functional type memorial not be further considt
2. That, for the nonce, the Committee reconmend to the City Council tht approval of a sculpture monument as the Veterans Memorial.
3. That, if at some futrtre date, the City embe$& on the construction c
a major facility such as a stadium, amphitheater, performing arts center or spox
complex, consideration be given to naming that facility a veterans memorial and
and moving the above monument to that facility.
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4. That the Committee approve one of the two follwing cmrses of action
for finalizing the selection of the Veterans Memorial monument t
(a) Select now the reproduction of the Veterans Memorial currently in
Denver as the Carlsbad Veterans Memorial, or;
(b) Solicit design proposals from a broad spectrum of artists for
the eventual final 8electi.m of a design by the Committea at sow
future date.
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Veterans Memorial
Dedicated Memorial Day
May 26,1986
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* The Statue
sculptor A. ’Thomas Schomberg as a
memorial eulogizing the sacrifices of
American veterans.
First and foremost. Schomberg states
that the Veterms il/lemorid is for the
veteran. It is to commemorate the veterans
their comrades, their personal and
emotional sacriftces and to acknonkdge
those Americans who ha\r lost loved one:
in the service of their country.
WAS to memorialize.. .not to glorib:
The Sculptor
A. Thomas Schomberg grew up in Iowa
in the 40s and SOs, a period he feels is
best summed up by a combination of <;ran1
Wood’s paintings and Aaron Copland’s
music. Along with these regional
influences, the Plains Indians of the area
provided a rich folklore. Their custom wa:
to place their dead on a high scaffold as
a presentation to the spiritual world. The
artist feels that this application in the
Veterans Memorial illustrates the transi-
tion from the world of reality to the world
of spirituality.
A final stimulus for the memorial came
from Schomberg’s studies in Europe. The
19th century French sculptor, Francios Rude
had a lasting impact on the artist, especially
with the sculpture entitled The Tomb Of
Cavaignac, which pictures the draped body
of the General.
The Patrons
The Veterans Memorial, which was
given to the Church of the Holy Ghost,
Denver, Colorado, was made possible by
the generous contributions of Mr. and
IMrs. Thomas E Kane.
before with another project. The boxing
memorial entitled Down ButNot Out.. .
Lost But Not Forgotten was dedicated to
the United States Amateur Boxing Team
killed in a plane crash in 1980 encoute to
Warsaw, Poland. The statue, also sculpted
by Schomberg, and a duplicate bronze are
located at the U.S. Olympic Training Centet
in Colorado Springs and in Warsaw.
The statue was created by Colorado
In addition, the artist’s personal goal
Their generosity has touched Colorado
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