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,MTG. 10/10/89. LEASE PURCHASE OF A SEWER/WET WELL CLEANER
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
DEPT. Hitt6--.
CITY ATTY \Jf/3
CITYMGR~
Adopt Resolution No.~~3~f&>awarding the bid for the sewer/wet well cleaner
and directing the Finance Director to return with a lease purchase
agreement.
ITEM EXPLANATION:
The 1989-90 budget includes $30,000 in the Utilities and .Maintenance Sewer
Lease Account for the 1 ease purchase of a sewer/wet we 11 cleaner. The
present sewer/wet well cleaner will be sold at fair market value to the
Street Division for catchbasin cleaning-. A transfer of funds will occur
between the General Fund and the Sewer Maintenance Fund as a result of this
sate.
In accordance with Section 3.28.120 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, Notice
to Bidders, was published and Request for Bids was made of twelve vendors.
Haaker Equipment Company, 3505 Pomona Boulevard, Pomona, CA 91768,
submitted the lowest, most responsive bid, of $130,688.00 plus tax.
The staff is recommendi11g that the City Council accept this bid and
authorize the Finance Director to solicit proposals for a lease purchase
agreement for·the acquisition of this equipment.
FISCAL IMPACT:
According to staff analysis, the City has an opportunity to lease purchase
this equipment and effectively reduce the present value purchase price to
the City. A survey of lease purchase rates indicates that the City can
expect lease terms with interest rates of approximately 7.7%. This rate
compares favor.ably with the present earn·ings on the City's portfolio which
are averaging approximately 9.25%. According to an anc1lysis prepared by the
Financ~ Depar.tment, the City can expect to save up to $20,000 in present
value terms if a favorable lease purchase contract can be entered into.
Staff is recommending that the City Council direct the Finance Director to
seek proposals from financial institutions for the lease purchase of this
equipment and that the lease contract be presented to the City Counci 1
within 60 days. The estimated annual lease purchase payment on this
equipment will be $32,000 assuming a lease purchase rate of 7. 7%. No
additional appropriations are necessary to fund this lease purchase
contract.
EXHIBITS:
1. Tabulation of bids -Exhibit A.
2. Resolution No.8Cf ,3Slo awarding the bid for the sewer/wet well cleaner
and directing the Finance Di rector to return with a lease purchase
agreement.
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SEWER/WET WELL CLEANER
Elec~ric Eel MFG. Co. Inq.
P.O. Box 419
Springfield OH, 45501
Dew-Par Sales .and Service
23891 Via Fabricante #611
Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Guzzler
P.O. Box 396
American Fork, UT 84003
'Ha~ker Equipment company
3505 Pomona Blvd.
Pomona, CA 91768
EXHIBIT "A"
No Bid
142,454.00
No Bid
130,688.00
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RESOLUTION NO. 89-356
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, ACCEPTING THE BIO ANO
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE ORDER
FOR A SEWER/WET WELL CLEANER AND DIRECTING
CITY STAFF TO REQUEST PROPOSALS FROM LENDING
INSTITUTIONS FOR A LEASE PURCHASE CONTRACT
WHEREAS, bids have been received by the City of Carlsbad for the
sewer/wet well cleaner; and
WHEREAS, the lease purchase of the sewer/wet well cleaner is
advantageous to the City of Carlsbad.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of
Carlsbad, California, as follows:
1. That the above recitations are true and correct.
2. That the bid of Haaker Equipment Company, 3~05 Pomona Boulevard,
Pomona, CA 91768, is hereby accepted and the Purchasing Officer is hereby
authorized to execute a Purchase Order for the sewer/wet well cleaner in
the amount of $130,688.00 plus tax.
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3 That the City staff is hereby directed to seek lease purchase
proposa 1 s from 1 ending institutions for the 1 ease purchase of the
sewer/wet well cleaner and to return to Council with a proposed purchase
agreement within 60 days.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the City
Council of City of Carlsbad, California, held on the --"'l=O=th.;..__ day of
October , 1989, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: Council Members Lewis, Kulchin, Pettine, Mamaux and Larson
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ATTEST:
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August 28, 1989
Ms. Aletha L. Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1989
Dear Ms. Rautenkranz:
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DEW-PAR Sales & Service has received a Bid Request from the
City of Carlsbad for a Sewer/Wet Well Cleaner, Bid No. 8.
DEW-PAR is a dealer for Aquatech Inc., one of the nation·s
leading manufacturers of truck mounted sewer cleaning, jetting
and vacuum equipment. We have several concerns about liability
and safety factors pertaining to the equipment specified and
would like clarification and additional information prior to
submitting a bid. Our concerns include, but are not limited to
the following:
A. The siz~ pf the truck chassis DO which the body is to be
mounted and the weight cf the assembled unit. The City has
specified a single rear axle chassis for a 9-cubic yard
combination machine. The California Motor Vehicle Code
requires that no more than 20~000 pounds may be carried by any
one axle and 34,000 pounds by each set of tandem axles. It is
DEW-PAR·s experience that most truck mounted, 9-yard combination
sewer jetting and vacuum machines require a chassis rated for
approximately 52,000 pounds GVW, with tandem rear axles.
It has been common for manufacturers of combination machines to
contend that these machines are never fully loaded with debris
when transporting loads to dump sites. It also has been
assumed that water for jetting will be used up and excess water
in the debris tank drained out or dewatered before debris is
transported. However, these assumptions are true only under
theoretical conditions which assume that operators
conscientiously drain off excess water and transport less than
full loads. The alternative is an obviously overweight
condition.
23891 Via Fabricante/ Suite 611 / Mission Viejo, California 92691 / Telephone (714) 768-1202 / FAX (714) 768-6275
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On July 21st, 1989 a letter was submitted to the Purchasing
Department of the City of Carlsbad. This letter was in
response to a request for comments on the proposed
specifications. These comments and concerns also were discussed
with the Fleet Operations Division. In reviewing the revised
Bid Specifications, many of the changes suggested by us were
incorporated, while others were not. However, the issue of an
undersized chassis has not changed. The specifications still
call for a 16,000 lb. front axle and a single 23,000 lb. rear
axle.
To illustrate the danger of mounting the Specified equipment on
a single rear axle chassis, the following table may be of
interest:
Single Axle, Emptv Weia}1ts, in Pounds
Eroo:t Rear Total
Single axle chassis only (1) 7,053 4,395 11,448
Driver and 100 gal of fuel 804 396 1,200
Tools, tubes and accessories 245 755 1,000
Body only, empty (2) ~.331 lQ.762 .l.5,Q86
Total, empty 12,436 16,308 28,744
(1) International 2554 4 x 2
(2) Average estimated weight for Vactor, Vac-Con, Camel and
Aquatech 9 yd. single engine combination machines, with front
.mounted hose reels. Add 700 pounds for auxiliary engine.
These figures show that with no payload or water, the unit is
near the legal maximum on the rear axle. With a typical full
load of mixed debris consisting of sand, gravel, rocks, bricks,
and sludge, the weight distribution will be approximately as
shown below:
Typical Full Load, SinG1le Axle, in Pounda
Er.ant. Raar._ To:tal
Total empty weight 12,436 16,308 28,744
9 cu. ~rd. payload, no water !13Q 21,Q'.ZQ 2J,5QQ
Total weight 12,866 37,378 50,244
Based on this example, the City-struck would be legally
overloaded 17,378 pounds on the .~ear axle. Only a tandem rear
axle capable of carrying legal loads of 34,000 pounds would be
suitable.
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For additional confirmation of problems encountered by users
operating combination machines mounted on single axles, it is
recommended you speak with Barry Greenberg, Power Equipment
Specification Writer, at the County of Los Angeles,
(818)458-7345. In fact, the County found it necessary to
remount a~ capacity combination machine from a
single ~ear axle to a tandem axle in order to carry legal
payloads.
Also, it is noted in the specifications that this unit is to be
used as an emergency "off-road" fire truck requiring "extra
heavy suspension". We assume that to be of value in this
application, the unit would, of necessity, be completely loaded
wi•th water (using both fresh water and debris tanks). This
typf:? of application would add 23,482 pounds to the empty body
and chassis and yield a total gross vehicle weight of 52,226
pounds. It then would be ~equired to negotiate rough terrain on
an undersized chassis" .. in remote areas". With a specified
GVW rating of 39,000 pounds, this clearly would constitute a
potentially hazardous and unsafe operating condition.
To enable DEW-PAR to properly appraise the risks of offering
Aquatech eguipment to the City of Carlsbad, we would appreciate
a letter from the City Attorney which addresses the following
issues and concerns per·taining to the manner in which the City
plans to operate the vehicle:
1. The City cf Carlsbad acknowledges that the sewer/wet
well cleaner specified may violate weight le.ws
stlpulated by California Motor Vehicle Code, Section
35550 of Chapter 5, Article 1, when operated with
partial or full loads on chassis equipped with a single
rear axle.
2. The City acknowledges that its operation of the equipment
may contradict Bid Specifications requiring that
equipment offered complys with the California Vehicle
Code, the California Administrative Code, and federal
laws.
3. The City of Carlsbad agrees to hold harmless and
and indemnify any dealer or manufacturer of equipment
offered in accordance with the Bid Specifications
against losses from claims brought by the City or third
parties due to operation of the equipment in a manner
which violates State of California Department of Motor
Vehicle weight laws.
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4. The City agrees to modify the Bid Specifications to
provide for the installation of an automatic engine
shutdown safety governor when the weight of the machine
specified exceeds 20,000 pounds on any single axle or
such lesser weight as may be dictated by the capacity
limits of axles, wheels, or tires as provided by the
manufacturers of th.:,:1e components. !further, the City
agrees it will regularly inspect and maintain such
engine shutdown device in an fully operating condition,
as long as the machine is in service.
B . .Tb.fLYC.i.lume.tric capacities of water and debris tanks,
DEW~PAR wishes to ascertain the documentation and testing
methods which will be required by the City to validate
representations made by vendors concerning the ability of
machines bid to meet the volumetric capacities specified in thP-
Bid Request for water and debris tanks. DEW-PAR also wishes to
verify the extent to which th~ City will accept a machine
which does not have a water tank capacity of 1,000 gallons or a
debris tank capacity of 9 cubic yards. In addition, the bid
specifications, as presently written, do not distinguish
between "usable" capacity and "design" or "engineered"
capacity.
DEW-PAR wishes to advise the City that its reason for concern
is due to tests recently conducted on a co □petitive machine
similar to that specified. This machine had water and debris
tank rated capacities of 1,000 gallons and 9-cubic yards
respectively. The results of these tests are shown in the table
below. These results, which are documented by certified weight
tickets, show that the actual capacity of the water tank was
779.11 gallons, not the rated 1,000 gallons and the actual
capacity of the debris tank was 6.53 cubic yards, compared to a
rated capacity of 9-cubic yards.
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Weight of vehicle w~th full water tank 35,540 lbs.
Less: vehicle empty weight -29,QBQ lbs,
Payload of water in water tank 6,490 lbs
6490 lbs. payload divided by 8.33 lbs. per gallon =
779.11 gallons of water
Weight of vehicle with full debris tank 40,040 lbs.
Less: vehicle empuy weight -29.Q5Q lbs,
Payload of water in debris tank 10,990 lbs.
10,990 lbs payload divided by 8.33 lbs. per gallon=
1319.33 gallons divided by 202 gallons per cu. yd. =
6.53 cu. yds.
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C. Bid ReguirementeJor the specified auxiliary engjne. The
Specifications for the Sewer/Wet Well Cleaner call for the
vacuum exhauster to be able tc produce air flow of 8000 cubic
feet per minute. Clarification is needed as to whether the
chassis engine or auxiliary engine is to be used to power the
exhauster. For your benefit, enclosed is a performance curve
chart submitted at a bid opening in June, 1988 at Spokane
County for a Vactor model 810 ,Jet Rodder. Among other things,
it suggests that the horsepower requirement needed to achieve
the specified 8000 cfm rating approximates 200 hp. Since the
ra~ed capacity of the Cummins 4BT engine commonly used for
auxiliary power is 91 h.p., the implication is that
significantly larger auxiliary engines or the truck engine
must be usod to attain the specified air flow capacity.
If the City has no intended application for the auxiliary
engine, DEW-PAR wishes to know this prior to submitting its
bid. In addition, DEW-PAR wishes to verify if the City~s
requirement for 8000 cfm air flow is to be measured as "free
air" or against a pressure of 107 inches of water, as stated in
the Specifications. Such distinction is important to DEW-PAR
in its determination of the size exhauster to be bid.
Finally, DEW-PAR wishes to know how the City plans to test the
exhauster selected by the City to ensure it is capable of
meeting Bid Specifications. Also, we note that the City has
omitted any requirement for performance curves or other
certifications pertinent to exhauster performance.
D. Mounting regui~ements for froot mounted hose reel. In view
of the off-road operating conditions which the Specification
envisions. the Specification does not make clear whether the
hose reel is to be bolted to the front bumper of the chassis
selected or mounted directly to the frame. Also, no indication
of minimum acceptable ground clearance for· the front hose reel
is provided. Small variations in terrain will have a magnified
impact on the vertical movement of hose reels extending 6-feet
or more in front of the front axle. This, presumably, should be
an area of concern to the City. In addition, some
truck manufacturers provide alternative chassis depending on
reguirements for front mounted implements. Prior to developing
its bid, DEW-PAR wishes to know if the City has a strong
preference for the manner in which the front hose r.eel is to be
mounted.
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E. Hose reel mounting location..... DEW-PAR wishes to advise the
City that Aquatech~s newly intt•oduced rear mounted, pivoting
hose reel may be a convenient solution to ground clearance and
driver visability problems. Numerous safety and operational
features have made this the design of choice in recent months
by several Southern California municipalities and public
agencies. While Aquatech provides both front and rear mounted
hose reels, DEW-PAR would be pleased to explain how a rear
mounted reel alternative could be of significant value to the
City.
Thank you for your attention to the foregoing matters. Please
call me if I can provide further clarification.
cc: City Attorney
Purchasing Officer
Sincerely,
~~~ Gaylord ff
Area Ma ger
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Ms. Aletha L. Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Ca~lsbad
1200 Elm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1989
Dear Ms. Rautenkranz:
Attached, please find the performance curve chart that should have
been sent with letter dated 8/28/89.
Sincerely,
Gaylord Ruff
23891 Via Fabricante / Suite 611 / Mission Viejo, California 92691 / Telephone (714) 768-1202 / FAX (714) 768-6275 JI
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September 5, 1989
Gaylord Ruff
Area Manager
Dew-Par
23891 Via Fabricante
Suite 611
Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Dear Mr. Ruff:
Oh-Friday, September 1, 1989, the Fleet Maintenance
:Superintendent's response to concerns listed in your letter dated
A~gust 28th was sent via FAX to youL· office.
The spec~ficatioris for the Sewer/Wet Well Cleaner have been written
to meet the City's needs in a cost effective manner. They have
been designed with the objective of clearly describing ~he Cityis
.requirements and, at the same time, to permit maximum p~acticable
competition consistent with our requirements.
The original response covering additional information and specific
concerns is enclosed for your records.
We appreciate your interest and look forward to receiving your bid
on September 7th.
Very truly yours,
Fletcher
chasing Officer
Enclosure
C: ·cJty :clerk·,
City Attorney
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Fleet Maintenance Superintendent
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive • Carlsbad, California 92008-1989 • (619) 434-2803
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September 5, 1989
Ms. Aletha. L. Rautenkranz
Cit-v Clerk
City of Ca:rlsbad.
1200 llm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1989
Dear Ha. Rautenkranz:
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We have ~eoeived a copy of the Fleet Maintenance
Superintendent*a responses,to our inquiries and appreciate the
courtasy provided to us. ApparentlYt however our concerne were
not understood clearly.
The eac&latina volmne and size 0£ product liability damage
awards simply makes it impr.udent to take risks of sianificant
consequence. We do not wish to debate issues with the City but
only tobrinS an important aafety matter to the CityAe
attention.
The numbers used by ua illustrate the reaaona for our concern
about leaal weight. The opnglusipne are nnohenpd regardless of
differences in ellll)ty aross vehicle weiaht, type of debrie
weighed, or weight dietribution. Since the emersenoy, off road
conditions which •ive rise to the need for maneverability ar&
likelv to be 11 very infrequent" we are confused by tho rational
used to support the need for a single axle chassis.
l'urther, our concern with lesal wei8ht pertains .anl1' to loads
carried in the d•bria tank. While the superintendent hae offered
ooneiderable information about empty body and chaeeio weight~
and the weiaht of water in the fresh water tank, dabrii, tank
loada, iDdopendont of other considerationa, are paramount.
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The Superintend~nt b.PJ.e elected to use wet sand as a basis £or
determining the prospective weight of a loaded debris tank.
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Usina his fisurees, 9-cubic :yards of wet sand will wei.eh
approximately 18,000 PoWld.8. If added to the prerrumed empty
body and chasaia wei,sht of 25,890 pounds uaed by the
Superintendent, the total unit weight would be 43.390 pounde
veraue a specified GVW of 39,000 p0unda and a legal load uximum
of 207000 pgunde per axle. Additional weight of perhaps 2..,200
pounds for fuel, operating personnel, and toola alao were not
conside~ed by the Superintendent and will :fu.rther overloPd the
unit.
In addition to beina overloaded in total •eight, lt also will be
overloaded on the :rear axle, perhaps sisnificantly, depending on
veiaht distribution with absolutely~ water in the fresh water
tank.
The apeci~ications call for dealere to eubmit bides for equipment
which will conform to the Department of Motor Vehicle Code and
other State and Federal regulations. Based on the
Superintendent~a calculations, this will not be possible usina a
chaeaie with a ainale rear axle, even with tbc frcab ntor tonlt
NQPty, reaardleee of equipment chosen by the City.
Assuming the Citv Attornev is unwillina to indemnify dealers and
manufacturers qainst liabilit;v claims from overweight operatinJl
conditione, DBW-PAR may be obliaed to bid a. tandem 1•ear axle
chaseie at additional cost. To ensure that all bidders are
fairly treated. DRW-P.AB wiehea to have aaauranoea prior to the
bid openins that equipment accepted will be publicly waia}led
empty and fully loaded on each axle to verify that equipment
eelectGd by the City meets both legal weight ,md volumetric
capacity 0011ditiona epecified.
Jtxbaw,te~ gapahi11t1ea. DBW-PAR appreciates the
8uper1ntendent•a clarification that the City desires only· "free
air" capacity of 8,000 CFM and that achievement of a rated
pressure of 107 inchea of water is independent of the machines·
free air C8.Pftbility. With a rated "fri,e eix-" capocity of 8,.500
CPM and a vacuum rating of 207. inches of water for its etandard
exhauater, Aquateoh consistently baa out performed competitor
machines under the operatins condition8 required bv the
Specifications, even where ~uoh deb~ie ie ooinpletely erubmerged.
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SEl'lt BY: DEW PAR Sales & serfa; 9-5-89 2:41PM ;
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Front ho11a rw mountlna-Our question ie unanawerod. While we
understand that the City has experienced no problems with its
present front mounted hose reel, DBW-PAR wishes to know whether
the reel ie to be anchored to (a) the front bump,r or (b) the
frame for purposes of oor~eotly specifying ohaaaia.
Beel Jocetion. Thie ia a matter of City preference. The issue
of weight is an academic matter only ~ince a single rear axle
chassis with a full debria tank will be leaally overloaded, in
aJ1¥ event.
DBW-PAR appreciates the City-a interest in selecting equipment
of greatest value to it for the job :r-equired. We and A<1uateoh
are pleased to be Southern California-a leading municipal and
public agency dealer for saw,1r .jetting and vacuum equipment
d'Ut'ing the past ll'ar. Service to the City of Carlsbad is
important to us and we look forward to reepondins to your
i,peoificationa.
co: Citv Attorney
PurchaailJS Officer
Sincerely,
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Area Manaaer
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Ma. Aletha L. Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1989
Dear Ms. Rautenkranz:
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We have received a copy of the Fleet Maintenance
Superintendent·s responses to our inquiries and appreciate the
courtesy provided to us. Apparently, ha~ever our concerns were
not understood clearly.
The escalating volume and size of product liability damage
awards simply makes it imprudent to take risks of significant
consequence. We do not wish to debate issues with the City but
only to bring an important aafety matter to the City·s
attention.
The numbers used by ua illustrate the reasons for our concern
about legal weight. The conclusions are unchanged regardless of
differences in empty gross vehicle weight, type of debris
weighed, or weight distribution. Since the emergency, off road
conditions which give rise to the need for maneverability are
likely to be "very infrequent" we are confused by the rational
used to support the need for a single axle chassis.
Further, our concern with legal weight pertains mil.y: to loads
ca.r-ried in the debris tank. While the Superin·cendent has offered
considerable information about empty body and chassis weights
and the weight of water in the fresh water tank, debris tank
loads, indepc3ndent of other considerations, are paramount.
23891 Via Fabricante I Suite 611 / Mission Viejo, California 92691 / Telephone (714) 768-1202 / FAX (714) 768-6275
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The Superintendent has elected to use wet sand aa a baaia for
determining the prospective weight of a loaded debris tank.
Using his figures, 9-cubic yards of wet sand will weigh
approximately 18,000 pounds. If added to the presumed empty
body and chassis weight of 25,390 pounds used by the
Superintendent, the total unit weight would be 43,390 pounds
versus a specified GVW of 39,000 pounds and a legal lo~d maximll1'l
of 20,000 pounds per axle. Additional weight of perhaps 2,200
pounds for fuel, operating personnel, and tools also were not
considered by the Superintendent and will further overload the
unit.
In addition to being overloaded in total weight, it also will 'be
overloaded on the rear axle, perhaps significantly, depending on
weight distribution with absolutely IlQ water in the fresh water
tank.
The speci£ications call for dealers to submit bids for equipm.Ant
which will conform to the Department of Motor Vehicle Code and
other State and Federal regulations. Baaed on the
Superintendent·a calculations, this will not be possible using a
chassis with a single rear axle, even with the fr.esb water tank
em.pty, regardless of equipment chosen by the City.
Assuming the City Attorney is unwilling to indemnify dealers and
manufacturers against liability claims from overweight operating
conditions, DEW-PAR may be obliged to bid a tandem rear axle
chassis at additional coat. To ensure ~hat all bidders are
fairly treated, DEW-PAR wishes to hav~ assurances prior to the
bid opening that equipment accepted wlll be publicly weighed
empty and fully loaded on each axle to verify that equipment
selected by the City meets both legal weight and volumetric
capacity conditions specified.
Exhauster capabilitia~-DEW-PAR appreciates the
Superintendent .. s clarification that the City desireo only "free
air" capacity of 8,000 CFM and that achievement of a rated
pressure of 107 inches of water is independent of the machines·
free air capability. With a rated "free air" capacity of 8,500
CFM and a vacuum rating of 2.0.1. inches of water for its standard
exhauster. Aquatech consistently baa out performed competitor
machines under the operating conditions required by the
Specifications, even where auch debris is completely aubm~rged.
Front hose reel mountin~. Our question is unanswered. While we
understand that the City baa experienced no problems with its
preaent front mounted hose reel, DEW-PAR wishes to know whether.
the reel is to be anchored to (a} the front bumper or (b) the
frame for purposes of correctly specifying chassis.
Beel location. Thia is a matter of City preference. The issue
of weight is an academic matter only since a single rear axle
chassis with a full debris tank will be legally overloaded, in
any event.
DEW-PAR appreciates the City""s interest in selecting equipment
of greatest value to it for the job required. We and Aquatech
are pleased to be Southern California-a leading municipal and
public agency dealer for sewer jetting and vacuum equipment
during the past year. Service to the City of Carlsbad ia
important to ua and we look forw.ird ·to responding to your
specifications.
cc: City Attorney
Purchasing Officer
Sincerely,
~~44Y ra-t~ Ruff 1/ 71
Area Manager
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TO: PURCHASING AGENT
FROM: FLEET MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT
ANSWER TO LETTER OF CONCERNS DATED AUGUST 28, 1989 FROM 'DEW-PAR
SALES AND SERVICE
In response to the letter from DEW-PAR SALES AND SERVICE, these are
the responses from Fleet Operations Division:
A. THE SIZE OF THE TRUCK CHASSIS ON WHICH THE BODY IS TO BE MOUNTED
AND THE WEIGHT OF THE "ASSEMBLED UNIT.
In summary, DEW-PAR has concerns about the configuration of the
truck in ,comparison with the State ... of California Motor Vehicle
Code. A copy of their letter is attached.
FLEET OPERATIONS RESPONSE
The figures supplied by DEW-PAR are specious. Even though the
figures supplied by DEW-PAR apparently do not apply directly to any
equipment presently owned by the City of Carlsbad, they do warrant
examination. First of all, these figures are to represent an
average estimated weight for a Vactor, Vac-con, Camel, Aquatech.
These m~chines cannot be directly compared with each other on axle
loadings. Vactor and Vac-Con separate the fresh water tank from
the debris tank. Camel and Aquatech have an integral fresh
water/debris tank. Using Dew-Par's own figures 8.33 lbs. per
gallon of water, the issue addressed here is where 8 1 330 lbs. will
be placed on the truck when the specified 1,000 gallon capacity
fresh water tank is full.
The figures supplied by Dew-Par must be from one of their machines
-either an Aquatech or a camel because of the heavy rear axle
loading configuration. concerned about the safety of its own
equipment, the Fleet Operations Division contacted Haaker Equipment
company for figures on axle loading. Carlsbad I s equipment is
presently at Haaker for repair and was not available to be weighed.
The information from Haaker indicates that a typical empty machine
as specified will weigh about 25,390 lbs.; 12,990 lbs. on the rear
axle (not 16,308), 12,400 lbs. on the front axle. Upon receipt of
our Vactor from their shop these figures may be confirmed at a
local scale.
PURCHASING AGENT
September 1, 1989
Page 2
At the tilne the specifications were being written it was considered
to exclude manufacturers with combined fresh water/debris tanks
from bidding on a maintenance standpoint. This consideration was
discarded as being too exclusive. However, in light of the loading
problems associated with an integral fresh water/debris tank
enumerated by Dew-Par it is the recommendation by the Fleet
Operations Superintendent that should the situation arise where
the submitted bids are close, the manufacturer with the separate
tanks be selected based on safety considerations.
Again, using Dew-Par's figures, they attest that the weight of the
empty body will be about 15,000 lbs. More than 4,000 lbs., or 29%
of this weight, will be on the front axle. Almost 11,000 lbs., or
71% of this weight, will be on the rear axle.
Under the heading "Typical Full-Load, single Axle, In Pounds" as
an example a nine cubic yard body is loaded with a material which
weighs more than wet sand. As a rule of thumb, one cubic yard of
wet sand will weigh one ton, 2,000 lbs. The nine cubic yard body
load in the example weighs 3,000 lbs. more than this. What is
important to note is that the load within the body is not
distributed in the same proportion a$ the empty body itself. The
empty body distributes its weight 29% to the front, 71% to the
rear. After loading this body with 21,500 lbs. of material 2% (4:30
pounds) of the payload is on the front, 98% of the payload is oh
the rear. This would suggest a column of material placed directly
over the rear axle.
Using figures from Haaker Equipment Company representing Carlsbad's
current equipment, a Vactor with a full fresh water tank should
-·weigh approximately 15,580 lbs. on the front axle, 17,445 lbs. on
the rear axle. This would be a total vehicle weight of 33,025 lbs.
These figures may be confirmed on Carlsbad's machine when it
returns from repairs.
It is the conclusion of the Fleet Operations Division that the
vehicle as specified will meet all of the state of California
vehicle code requirements. -
THE VEHICLE SHALL HAVE OFF-ROAD CAPABILITY
The definition of "off-road" by Fleet Operations Division is any
non-paved road. These may be roads which are encountered entering
a typical landfill. Therefore, off-road conditions do not
necessarily imply the extreme rough terrain conditions suggested
to by Dew-Par.
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September 1, 1989
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In the state of an emergency, it remains the option of the City of
Carlsbad to operate its equipment as it sees fit. If necessary the
new equipment will serve as a water tender, using the 1,000 gallon
fresh water tank only, or at its option using th~ nine cubic yard
debris tank (1,818 gallons), or to fill both ta·~~. The City of
Carlsbad realizes that this does not const.i tut~ a safe loading
condition, but also realizes that the emergency situation like this
is very infrequent.
To allow the specified equipment to operate on a day to day basis
in off-ro~d conditions, the rear axle is specified at 3,000 lbs.
greater than the legal loading limit. Extra heavy rear springs are
also specified. It is the intention that this will benefit the
city .of Carlsbad in cost avoidance of suspension repairs.
RESPONSES REQUESTED FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY
After examining the figures from by Dew-Par and those figures
supplied representing The City of Carlsbad• s current equipment, the
Fleet Operations Division emphatically states that the specified
machine will not violate weight laws stipulated by the Californi~
Vehicle Code, that there is no, contradiction in the bid
specifications requiring that th~ equipment comply with California
Vehicle Code, California Administrative Code, and federal laws.
Further, Fleet Operations Division asserts that it will not be
necessary to hold harmless any dealer for the specified equipment.
As far as instal.ling an automatic engine shutdown safety governor
when the vehicle is overloaded on any one axle, this equipment is
not available on the market. The Fleet Operations Superintendent
has had over 20 years experience in the maintenance of refuse
collection equipment. A devise as described by Dew-Par to notify
the operator·of any overloading condition is highly desired by the
r~fuse collection industry and to date has not been supplied. If
it had, there would be a ready market for this device, and it would
be a common device industry-wide.
In addressing the problem of filling both the fresh water tank and
the debris tank and overloading the equipment, the Fleet Operations
Division and the Sanitation Division currently require that the In-
Line water scree~ be removed after jet rodding. This screen is at
the inlet to the high-pressure fresh water pump. Removing the
screen essentially empties the fresh water tank. This practice
will ensure that both the debris tank and the fresh water tank will
not both be full while transporting.
PURCHASING AGENT
September 1, 1989
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B: THE VOLUMETRIC CAPACITIES OF WATER AND DEBRIS TANKS
It is the intention of the Fleet Operations Di vision to use
physical measurements to determine the capacities of the fresh
~ater and debris tanks. The specifications will not be modified.
Fleet Operations admits that there was possibly an error on its
part and not specifying the difference between "usable" capacity
and •11 design11 capacity. However, all of the prospective vendors are
dealing with this on an equal basis. It is common to imply that
a 11 1,000 g·allon capacity fresh water tank" will hold i,ooo gallons,
and the same for a nine cubic yard debris tank.
C: BID REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPECIFIED AUXILIARY ENGINE
The Fleet Operations Division did not specify that there must be
an auxiliary engine. The requirements by the City of Carlsbad are
simple and they are stated on the first page of the bid
specifications:
1) The unit must be able to clean rocks and other debris from the
bottom of a 30 foot deep wet well.
2) .The unit specified must be able to move at the same time it is
vacuuming.
It was assumed that each prospective vendor would assess the
• capabilities of their equipment in submitting bids meeting these
~pecifications. It is a primary concern with the Fleet Operations
Division that the unit "perform" as specifi~d rather than meet
factory CFM requirements. The specifications for ~,ooo CFM at 107
inches of water can be assumed to be "free air" at the intake to
the vacuum exhauster.
For clarification, this specification requires that the equipment
have some kind of vacuum exhauster which will be capable of
emptying a completely full 30 foot deep wet well using an 8 inch
inside diameter intake tube. This equipment should be capable of
not only emptying the wet well but also retrieving rocks and other
debris from the bottom. If vendors desire to state an exception
to the bid to achieve these performance specifications then they
are invited to do so.
D: MOUNTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FRONT MOUNTED HOSE REEL
In the recent past it was the experience of the Fleet Operations
Division to have to repair its current equipment in the field. In
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September 1, 1989
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preparation for the sale of the Pacific Rim Properties the city
equip~e~t was in an off-road condition severe enough to break the
boom off of the·unit. From this experience the bid specification
includes a boo~·rest, frame mounted, with_a locking device in the
saddle. At no time were there problems with the front mounted hose
reel!' ::Ct is the recommendation from Fleet Operations that the
~pecifications for the front mounted hose reel not be changed.
E: HOSE REEL MOUNTING LOCATION
~he Fleet Operations Division did not experience any -ground
clearance ·problems with its present -equipment. It does not
recommend annot~ting the bid specifications for this requirement. If Dew-Par wiphes to bid an exception to the present specifications
they may 'do so. However, a rear mounted hose reel we>uld only
compound the rear axie weight problem which Dew-Par finds so
significant.
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City Cl~rk ·V
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Ms. Al~tha L. Rautenkranz
City Clerk
City of Carlsoad
1200 Elm Ave.
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1989
Dear Ms. Rautenkranz: .
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fl/\ DEW-PAR \Al Sales & Service
DEW-PAR Sales & Service has reced.ved a Did Reguest from the
City• of Carlsbad for a Sewer/t,1et Well Cleaner, Bid No. 8.
DEW.:..PAR is a dealer for Aguatech lnc., one of the nation·s
leadinj manufacturers of truck mounted sewer cleaning, jetting
and vacuum equipment. We have several concerns about liability
and_~afety factors pertaining to-the equipment specified and
w6uld like cla~ifidation and additional information prior to
submitting a bid. Our concerns incl'ude, but are not limited to
the foliowirig:
A. Thff siz~_Q_f the truck -chassjs oflJllliclLthe.._llo.clv is to be
~he· {.,eight of the ... ..asaembl.e.d-unj t, The City has
specifie~ a sin~le rear axle chassis for a 9-cubic yard
combination machine. The California Motor Vehicle Code
requires that no more than 20,000 pounds may be carried by any
one ax'le and 34,000 pounds by each set of tandem a:des. It is
DEW-PAR·s experience that most truck mounted, 9-yai'd combination
sewer jetting and vacuum machines reguir& a chassis rated for
approximately 52,0~0 pounds GVW, with tandem·rear axles.
It has been common for manufacture1's of combination machines to
cotitend that these machines are never fully loaded with debris
when transporting loads to dump sites. It also has been
assumed that water for jetting will be used up and excess water
in the debris tank drained out or dewatet•ed before debris is
transported. However, these assumptions are true only under
theoretical conditions which assume that operators
conscientiously drain off excess water and transport less than
full loads. The alternative is an obviously overweight
condition. •
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On July 21st, 1989 a letter was submitted to the Purchasing
Department of the City of Carlsbad. This letter was in
response to a request for comments on the proposed
specifications. These comments and concerns also were discussed
with the Fleet Operations Division. In reviewing the revised
Bid Specifications, many of the changes suggested by us were
incorporated, while others were not. However, the issue of an
undersized chassis has not changed. The specifications still
call for a 16,060 lb. front axle and a single 23,006 lb. rear
axle.
To illustrate the danger of mounting U1e Specified equipment on
a single rear axle chassis, the following table may be of
interest:
Single axle chassis only (1)
Driver and 100 gal of fuel
Tools, tubes and accessories
Body only, empty {2)
Total, empty
0L) I~ternational 2554 4 x 2
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7,053
804
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12,436
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4,395 11,448
396 1,200
755 1,000
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16, :308 28,744
( 2) Average estimated we.ight :foi• Vactor, Vac-Con, Camel and
Aquatech 9 yd. single engine combination machines, with front
mounted hose reels. Add 700 pounds for auxiliary engine.
These figures show that with no payload or water, the unit is
near the legal maximum on the real' axle. With a typical full
load of mixed debris consisting of sand, gfavel, rocks, bricks,
and sludge, the weight distribution will be approximately as
shown below:
Tlm.i.~LE:u.ll--L!:IBcL.-5.ing]_e___fu~a .. _jj1_P.n11nds
Il't.'£.mt Haar._-_ T.!ital_
'l'otal empty wei.ght 12,436 J 6,308 2fJ,744
9 cu. yd. payload, no water -~ 2.L.Q1.Q ~].50{)
Total weight 12, fJ66 37,378 50,244
Bas~tj on this example, the City·s truck would be legally
overloaded 17,378 pounds on the rear axle. Only a tandem rear
axle capable of ca1•rying legal loads of 34,000 pounds would be
suitable.
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For additional confirmation of problems encountered by users
operating combinat1on machines mounted on sil1gle a:des, it is
recommended you speak with Dc1rry Gree:nberg, Power Equipmi'.:nt
Specification Writer, at the County of Los Angeles,
(818)458-7345. In fact, the Cc,unty found it necessary to
remount a fl.:::mJb..iQ_YJ:lr.d capacity combinc.ltion machine ft·om a
single rear axle to a tandem axle in order to carry legal
payloads.
Also, it is noted in the specific~tions that t11is unit is to be
used as an emergency "off-1,oad" fi.re truck req_uiring "e::-:tra
heavy suspension". We assume that to he of value in this
application, the unit: would, of ueceasiiy, be completely loaded
with water (using both fresh water aud dt::lwis tanks). 'l'his
type of application would add 23,482 pounds to the empty body
and chassis and yield a total gross vehicle weight of 52,226
pounds. It then would be required to negotiate rough terrain on
an undersized chassis " ... in remote areas". With a specified
GVW rating of 39,000 pounds, this clearly would constitute a
potentially haz~rdous and unsafe operating condition.
To enable DEW-PAR to pt•operly appraise the risks of offe2.'jng
Aquatech equipment to the City of Carlsbad, we would appi'eciate
a letter from the City Atto1-ney which addresses the followiug
issues and concerns pertaining .to the manner 1n which the City
plans to ope1·a t;.e the vehicle:
1. The City of Carlsbad acknowledges that the sewer/wet
well cleaner specified may violnte \oJeight laws
stipulated by CalifornifJ. Moto:t• Vehicle Code, Section
35550 of Chapter 5, Article 1, when operated \•lith
partial or full loads on chassis eguipped with a single
rear axle.
2. 'l'he City acknowledges that its ope1'ation of tha equipment
may contradict Bid Specifications requiring thut
egu:i pment offered complys with the Califo1•nia Veldcla
Co~~. the California Administrative Code, und federal
laws.
:, . The City of Ca1•lsbad ag1'ees to l1old hurmless and
and indemnify any dealer or manufacturer of egui~nent
offered in acco:t'dance with the Bid Specifications
against losses from claims brougl1t by the City or third
parties due to operation of the equi1:,ment in a mannel.'
which violates State of California Department of Motor
Vehicle weight laws.
4. The City agrees to modify the Bid Speciifications to
provide for the installation of an automatic engine
shutdown safety governor when the weight of the machine
specified exceeds 20,000 pounds on any single axle or
such lesser weight as may be dictated by the capacity
limits of axles, wheels, or tires as provided by the
manufacturers of those components. Further, the City
agrees it will regularly inspect and maintain such
engine shutdown device in an fully operating condition,
as long as the machine is in service.
B. Iha vohm1e_trj c capaoj ti es of Nlll.er.Jll~bris tanl~
DEW-PAR wishe:s to ascertain the documentation and testing
methods which will be required by the City to validate
representations made by vendors concerning the ability of
machines bid to meet the volumetric capacities specified in the
Bid Request for water and debris tanks. DEW-PAR also wishes to
verify the extent to which the City will accept a machine
which does not have a water tank capacity of 1,000 gallons or a
debris tank capacity of 9 cubic yards. In addition, the bid
specifications, as presently written, do not distinguish
between "usable"· capacity and "design" or "engineered"
capacity.
DEW-PAR wishes to advise the City that its reason for concern
is due to test~ recently conduc~ed on a competitive machine
similar to that specified. This machine had water and debris
tank rated cap~cities of 1,000 gallons and 9-cubic yards
respectively. The results of these tests are shown in the table
below. These results, which a1.'e documented by ce1•tified weight
tickets, show that the actual capacity of the water tanlt was
779.11 gallons, not the rated 1,000 gallons and the actual
capacity of the debris tank was 6. 53 cubic yards, compaz•ed to a
rated capacity of 9-cubic yards.
1. Weight of vehicle with full water.' tank
Less: vehicle empty weight
Payload of water in wate1• tank
35,540 lbs.
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6,490 lbs
6490 lbs. payload divided by 8.33 lbs. per gallon=
779.11 gallons of water
2. Weight of vehicle with full debris tank
Less: vehicle empty weight
Payload of water in debris tank
40,0-10 lbs.
=2.9...D.50-1.lm ...
10,990 lbs.
10,990 lbs payload divided by 8.33 lbs. per gallon=
1319.33 gallons divided by 202 gallons per c11. yd.=
6.53 cu. yds.
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C. Bid Regu i rP,rnents for tbe..__sper, if.ied au:d 1 i ar:v en~ The
Specifications for the Sewer/vlet Well Cleaner call for the
vacuum exhauster to be able to produce air flow of 8000 cubic
feet per minute. Clarification is needed as to whether the
chassis engine or auxiliar-y engine is to be used to power the
e:-chauster. For your benefit, enclosed is a performance cu?.·ve
chart submitted at a bid opening in June, 1988 at Spokane
County for a Vactor model 810 Jet Rodder. Among other things,
it suggests that the horsepower requirement needed to acl1ieve
the specified 8000 cfm rating approximates 200 hp. Since the
rated capacity of the Cummins 4BT engi.ne commonly used for
auxiliary power is 91 h.p., the implication is that
significantly larger auxiliary engines 01' the truck engine
must be used to attain the s~ecified air flow capacity .
If the City has no intended application for the auxiliary
engine, DEW-PAR wishes to know this prior to submitting its
bid. In addition, DEW-PAR wishes to verify if the Cit.y·s
requirement for 8000 cfm air flow is to be rneasur•ed as "free
air" or against a-pre1.'lsure of 107 inches of water, as stated in
the Specifications. Stich distinction is important to DEW-PAR
in its determination of the size exh,auster to be bid.
Finally, DEW-PAR wishes to know how the City plans to test the
exhauster selected by the Ci t.1 ·to ensuz·e it is capable of
meeting Bid Sp~cifications. Also, we note that the City.has
omitted any requirement for performance curves or other
certifications pertinent to e:<hauster performance.
-D. Mo.unt.i.ruL.r.a9.~ment.a..fQr frqnt mounted hnse r:F>e l . In view
of the off-road operating conditions which the Specification
envisions, the Specification does not make clear whether the
hose reel is to he bolted to the front bumper of th~ chassis
selected or mounted directly to the frame. Also, no indication
of minimum acceptable gi•ound clearance for the front~ hose reel
is provided. Small variations in terrain will have a magnified
impact on the vertical movement of hose reels extending 6-feet
01• more in front of the front a:de. This, presumably, should be
an area of concern to the City. ln addition, some
truck manufacturers provide alternative chassis depending on
:reguiremen.t.s for front mounted implements. Prior to develoi:,ing
its bid, DEW-PAR wishes to know if the City has a strong
p1•efe1•ence for the manner in ·which the fl•ont hose reel is to be
mounted.
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E. HQ.se reel mount.ing location... DEW-PAR wishes to advise the
City that Aquatech-s newly introduced rear mounted, ~ivoting
hose reel may be a convenient solution to ground clearance and
driver visability problems. Numerous sa·fety and operational
features ha.ve made this the design of choice in recent months
by several Southern California municipalities and public
agencies. While Aquatech provides both fi-ont and rear mounted
hose reels, DEW-PAR would be pleased to explain how a rear
mounted reel alternative could be of significant value to the
City.
Thank you for your attention to the foregoing matters. Please
call me if I can provide further cla1•ification.
cc: City Attorney
Purchasing Officer
Sincerely,
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Gaylord lf.~11ff
Area Manager .
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