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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Consider the findings of the Council appointed Skateboard Committee and the
recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Commission. Direct staff accordingly
as it relates to site selection, design criteria and cost estimates.
ITEM EXPLANATION :
In September of 1996, the City Council appointed a nine (9) member Skateboard
Committee for the purpose of making recommendations to the City Council through
the Parks and Recreation Commission regarding suitable location(s), design and
estimated cost for construction and maintenance of a City owned facility. The
committee consisted of a group of volunteers and included one Junior High School
and two (2) high school aged riders, a professional rider, a father of a rider, a citizen
at large, representative of a local business and two (2) members of the Parks and
Recreation Commission.
As recommended by the City Attorney and previously identified in Resolution No.
96-274, the following guidelines for the skatepark facility have bee.n established,
they are: That the facility will be city owned, unsupervised, and located in a high
visibility area, have low hazard props and will have conspicuously posted signs
requiring the mandatory use of safety equipment.
The committee met a total of seven (7) times over a period of four months to
address the issues involved with the development of a skateboard facility including
such topics as reviewing existing skate parks currently in operation, site selection,
design criteria, operational issues, development costs, liability concerns, etc. All
meetings were open to the public and public input was solicited, received and
incorporated within the recommendations of the committee report (Exhibit 1). A
summary of this report and their recommendations are as follows:
SITE SELECTION:
To minimize facility costs and development timelines, the committee focused
primarily on property already under city ownership. After a thorough analysis and
review of publicly owned property within each of the City's four quadrants, the
committee focused their interests on eighteen (18) individual site locations
its effectiveness for use as a skateboard park location. As a result of matching the
initial 18 locations against the prioritized site criteria, the committee reduced their
site considerations to six locations. Further discussion, analysis and ranking
resulted in the committee identifying three alternative site locations. Each of these
locations -provide distinct opportunities in terms of cost, timing, operation and design
(Exhibit 1 , Attachment 1). Criteria was established to prioritize each site in terms of
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The site locations recommended by the committee in order of priority are:
1. Calavera Park - future fire station site
2. Southwest corner of Monroe Street and Marron Road
3. Safety Center
DESIGN CRITERIA:
Although the committee has not developed a specific design for each site location,
they have recommended that the Skateboard park facility should have a concrete
skating surface of approximately 15,000 square feet with low hazard props that
should not exceed a 3 to 4 foot limit in height. Other performance features may
'include, but not be limited to the skating features and support elements identified in
skateboard facility, the individual location would dictate the individual design criteria
including the various performance features and amenities listed in the committees
report. It is essential that the design of the skateboard track should involve input
from City staff as well as input from skateboarders.
OPERATIONAL ISSUES:
The committee reached a general consensus on the Council's guidelines that the
facility would be unsupervised, the use of safety equipment would be mandatory
(helmets, knee and elbow pads) and that no specific fee would be charged for
facility use. In addition, the committee recommends that the hours of facility
operation should be consistent with the hours of operation of other park facilities
(8:OO a.m. - 1O:OO p.m.>. Although the committee believes that this facility should,
and in all likelihood will become a self-regulating skate park, they did acknowledge
the need to post the facility with signs which identify the rules, regulations and safety
requirements including mandatory use of safety equipment, hours of operation,
municipal code ordinances, etc.
ORDINANCE ISUES:
The committee also recommended that two additional items be considered by the
Parks and Recreation Commission. They acknowledged that at the time a
skatepark is developed, there would be a' need to amend the existing skateboard
ordinance to address such issues as facility rules and regulations, enforcement
issues, hours of operation and authorized uses. In addition, the committee has
suggested that when the skateboard ordinance becomes subject to revision,
consideration be given to the following concerns:
Exhibit I, on pages 4 and 5. Depending upon whiGh site is selected as a
0 Establishing corridors which allow for the use of skateboards as a
means of transportation within the Carlsbad Village Redevelopment
Zone.
0 The use of skateboards within community parks.
0 Provision to allow for skateboarding special events.
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The committee also recommended that the development of additional skateboard
facilities should be reviewed when considering the design of future City park sites.
FISCAL IMPACT:
In review of a number of skateboard parks which currently exist or are planned for
the near future, the committee understands the industry standard for development
costs to range from $6.00 to $16.00 per square foot depending upon a number of
factors, including but not limited to: acquisition, architectural design, required
support amenities, utilities, public vs. private development, etc. (Exhibit 1,
Attachment 4).
Preliminary estimates* of development and maintenance cost for the three (3)
alternative locations recommended by the committee are as follows:
SITE DEVELOPMENT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE
COSTS COSTS
Calavera $1 50,000 $2,500
S.W. Corner Monroe & Marron $240,000+ $6,000
Safety Center $1 50,000 $2,500
*Development costs are preliminary estimates only at this time pending actual
design, performance features and required support amenities.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION:
At the April 21, 1997 Parks and Recreation Commission meeting, the Skateboard
Committee presented their report to the Commission. The Commission voted 4-2 to
accept the Committee’s report and findings. However, the Commission
recommended that the Council should consider only two sites for a skateboard park
facility, they are: 1) fire station site adjacent to Calavera Park 2) southwest corner of
Monroe Street @ Marron Road. The two dissenting votes opposed this action only
because they felt the City Council should have received the Committee’s
recommendation in its entirety including the Safety Center location.
EXHIBITS:
1. Skateboard Committee Final Report, dated April 3, 1997.
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April 3, 1997
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FROM: Skateboard Committee
SKATEBOARD COMMITTEE FINAL REPORT
As per the direction of the City Council, the Skateboard Committee has studied the
feasibility of development of a city-owned skateboard facility in Carlsbad. The
enclosed report will summarize the findings and recommendations of the Skateboard
Committee.
BACKGROUND
On September 17, 1996, the City Council appointed a nine member committee
for the purpose of making recommendations regarding the suitable location(s), design,
estimated cost for construction and maintenance of a city-owned skateboard facility.
The committee was requested to present their findings to the Parks and Recreation
Commission and ultimately to the City Council.
The goal of the committee was to create a recommendation which would
produce an appealing opportunity for the City to provide an economically feasible
skateboard park in a timely manner. To that end, the committee met a total of seven
times over a period of four months to address the issues involved with the
development of a skateboard facility including such topics as: reviewing existing
skateboard parks currently in operation, site selection, design criteria, operational
issues, development costs, liability concerns, etc. All meetings were open to the public
and public input was solicited, received and incorporated within the recommendations
of the committee. The following information represents the findings and
recommendations of the committee regarding the proposed skateboard facility.
SITE SELECTION
Based upon the goal of the committee; with few exceptions, it was
recommended that only city-owned property be considered for further evaluation of
site selection. Accordingly, the committee utilized the City’s Geographic Information
System (GIS) to identify all publicly owned property within each of the City’s four
quadrants. After further review of property identified through the GIS search, the
committee focused their interests on eighteen (18) individual site locations
(Attachment 1).
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Further analysis of the site selection process established a list of criteria
(Attachment 2), which was used to prioritize each site in terms of its effectiveness for
use as a skateboard park location. Paramount in the committee’s selection analysis
was to adhere to the council guideline that the facility will be located in a high visibility
area.
As a result of matching the initial 18 locations against the prioritized site criteria,
the committee reduced their site considerations to six locations. Further discussion,
analysis and ranking resulted in the committee identifying three (3) alternative
locations. Each of these locations provide three distinct opportunities for a skateboard
facility in terms of cost, timing, operation and design capability. The site locations
recommended by the committee in order of priority are:
1. Calavera Park -- future fire station site
2. Southwest corner of Monroe Street and Marron Road
3. Safety Center
An explanation for the recommendation of each site in terms of its use as a skateboard
facility is as follows:
1. CALAVERA PARK
The committee acknowledges that this location is identified as the site for the
future relocation of Fire Station #3 at a cost of $450,000 (FY 2000-05) in the City’s
Capital Improvement Program Budget. The committee also understands that there
is a possibility that the fire station may not be relocated to the park site within the
near future and perhaps not at all.
With that in mind, this 19,250 sq. ft. parcel of land offers perhaps the most
economical and timely development potential for a skate park.
Site Selection Benefits:
All support amenities currently exist at the park site (parking, restrooms,
The site is graded;
Location offers perhaps the lowest cost of development;
Contingent upon fire station relocation, development could begin
High visibility.
Site Selection Concerns:
Fire Station #3 may ultimately be relocated to this site;
The site is located in relative close proximity to an existing neighborhood
utilities etc.);
immediately;
and may cause neighborhood disruption issues.
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. 2. S.W. CORNER OF MONROE AND MARRON ROAD
This approximate 30,000 sq. ft. area was formerly developed for use as a
included within the voter mandated purchase area of Hosp Grove, is currently
zoned as open space and will ultimately serve some function in relation to the
Hosp Grove Open Space Plan/City Wide Trail System. It is currently identified to
provide limited parking for those plans.
desiltation basin and is no longer functional for that purpose, The property was
Site Selection Benefits:
The site is somewhat obscure from existing neighborhoods, but offers high
Located in close proximity to NCTD Hub, allowing excellent accessibility to
The development timeline could be relatively soon and the site is large
visibility from Marron Road and Monroe Street;
the site via public transportation;
enough to allow for expansion.
Site Selection Concerns:
0 The entire site is undeveloped and therefore development costs would be
significantly higher in order to provide site preparation; the required support
amenities (parking, landscape, portable restrooms); and ingress & egress on
Monroe and Marron;
Potential disruption to adjacent commercial business.
3. SAFETY CENTER
The committee acknowledges that the Safety Center has existing plans to be
the site of a future civic center complex. However, the City may purchase
additional property in the immediate vicinity in order to insure that adequate
property is available to construct the future civic center complex. If additional
property is purchased, existing land at the Safety Center may be available for
consideration as a skateboard facility. The committee recommends that a 15,000
sq. ft. skating surface adjacent to, and north of, the existing ballfield be considered
as an alternative location.
Site Selection Benefits:
The site is centrally located within the City;
Support amenities currently exist at the site (parking, portable restrooms,
Timely development of a skate park could occur, if it is determined not to
Proximity to Police Department and Fire Station #5 offers extremely high
No neighborhood disruption issues.
utilities etc.);
construct the Civic Center at this location;
visibility;
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Site Selection Concerns:
Existing plans to construct civic center at this site would eliminate this
Ease of accessibility by users to this location.
alternative;
* More detailed information is enclosed on Attachment #3 which ranks site criteria for
each of the recommended alternatives.
DESIGN CRITERIA
Acknowledging the City Council guideline that the skateboard park facility will
have “low hazard” props, the committee has recommended that any design feature
shall not exceed a 3 to 4 foot height limit. The committee understands this limit would
comply with the guidelines of a “low hazard” skateboard facility as defined by the
Public Agency Risk Sharing Authority of California (PARSAC).
Although the committee has not developed a specific design for each site
location, the committee has recommended the types of amenities which should be
considered as part of any skate park design. Those amenities may include but would
not be limited to the following skateboard park features and support elements.
SKATING AREA FEATURES MAY INCLUDE:
Skating Surface of
Approximately 15,000 sq.ft.
(Concrete SurFace)
Lighted (All Locations)
Separate Skill Level Areas
(Beginner vs. Experienced)
Directional Flow and Design
Non-Vertical Riding Terrain
Surfaces and Features
Merge Perimeter
Rails
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Pyramids
Concrete Sealant
Banks
Curbs
Hips
Slalom Run
Stage
Kick-out Fencing
Tool Bench
Metal Pipe Inset or Angle Iron
on Edge of Features
Bowl
SKATING AREA FEATURES WOULD NOT INCLUDE:
Any Performance Feature Verticals (Ramps, Drops)
Half Pipes
over 3’ to 4’ Large Deep Bowls
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SKATE PARK SUPPORT AMENITIES:
Parking Areas Spectator Area (Bleachers,
Rest rooms Berms)
Landscaping (Non- e Picnic Tables
Drinking Fountains
Depending upon which site is selected as a skateboard facility, the individual
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location would dictate individual design criteria including the various performance
features and support amenities listed above. It is essential that the design of the
skateboard track should involve input from City staff as well as input from
skateboarders.
OPERATIONAL ISSUES
While the committee members reached general consensus on all other issues,
the issue related to the mandatory use of safety equipment (helmets, knee and elbow
pads) was debated at length. Because of the Council’s guideline for mandatory use of
safety equipment and perhaps more persuasively, Section 25906 of the State Health
& Safety Code that requires it, the consensus of the committee ultimately
acknowledges the need to comply.
The committee also reached consensus on the Council’s guidelines that the
facility would be unsupervised and that no specific fee would be charged for facility
use. In addition, the committee recommends that the hours of operation of the facility
be consistent with the hours of operation of other park facilities (8:OO am to 1O:OO pm).
Although the committee believes that this facility should, and in all likelihood will
become a self-regulating skate park, they did acknowledge the need to post the facility
with signs which identify the rules, regulations and safety requirements including
mandatory use of safety equipment, hours of operation, municipal code ordinances,
etc.
FISCAL IMPACT
In review of a number of skateboard parks which currently exist or are planned
for the near future, the committee understands the industry standard for development
cost to range from $6.00 to $16.00 per square foot depending upon a number of
factors, including but not limited to: acquisition, architectural design, required support
amenities, utilities, public vs. private development, etc. (Attachment 4).
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Preliminary estimates* of development and maintenance cost for the three (3)
alternative locations recommended by the committee are as follows:
SITE DEVELOPMENT COSTS ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COSTS
Calavera $120,000 - 150,000 $2,000 - 2,5001yr.
($8-1 0 per sql ft,)
S.W. Corner $240,000
Monroe & Marron ($16+ per sq. ft.)
Safety Center $1 20,000 - 150,000
($8-10 per sq. ft.)
$6,00O/yr.
$2,000 - 2,50O/yr.
* Development costs are preliminary estimates only at this time pending actual design,
performance features and required support amenities.
ORDINANCE ISSUES
The committee has acknowledged a necessity to amend or revise the existing
skateboard ordinance, Carlsbad Municipal Code Chapter 10.58 (Attachment 5), at the
time a skate park is developed. Amendments to the existing ordinance would address,
but may not be limited to the following issues:
Rules and Regulations
Enforcement Issues
0 Hours of Operation
Authorized Uses
In addition, the committee has suggested that when the skateboard ordinance
becomes subject to revision, consideration be given to address the following
concerns:
0 Establishing corridors which would allow for the use of skateboards as a
The use of skateboards within community parks;
Provision to allow for skateboarding special events.
means of transportation within the Carlsbad Village Redevelopment Zone;
FUTURE PLANNING
The committee also recommended that additional skateboard facilities should
be considered when designing future City park sites.
ATTACHMENTS
1 - Map of Potential Skateboard Park Sites
2 - Skateboard Park Site Criteria
3 - Calavera, Southwest Corner of Monroe and Marron and Safety Center Site Criteria Detail Ranking
4 - Existing Skate Facility and Cost Survey
5 - Carlsbad Municipal Code-Skateboarding Chapter 10.58
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Chapter 10.58
SKATEBOARDING
Sections: 10.58.010 Skateboarding prohibited in certain areas.
10.58.020 Skateboarding prohibited-Where.
10.58.040 Toy Vehicle use restrictions.
10.58.050 Interference with pedestrians and traffic.
10.58.010 Skateboarding prohibited in certain areas. It is unlawful for any person to ride a skateboard on private property open to the public in a general commercial zone, a neighborhood commercial zone,
or in the village redevelopment zone where signs
prohibiting such activity are posted by the owner of
the property. (Ord. NS-188 5 1 (part), 1991
10.58~020 Skateboarding prohibited- Where
It is unlawful for any person to ride a skateboard at the following locations: (a) On any sidewalk, public street, public parking lot, or public property in the village redevel- opment plan and as further shown on the map labeled “Exhibit A and found on file in the city clerk’s office; (b) Along the public sidewalk on the westerly side of Carlsbad Boulevard extending from Oak Street to Cannon Road, the northern portion of which is commonly known as the Whale Watch
Walkway; (c) The Carlsbad city hall and surrounding sidewalks, landscape barriers, and parking lot;
(d) The senior center at 801 Pine and adjacent public parking lot, sidewalks and landscape barriers.
(Ord. NS-339 6 1, 1995)
10.58.050 Interference with pedestrians a
(a) Any person upon a skateboard, skates, coaster or any similar toy vehicle or c shall exercise due caution and shall yield the of-way to and not interfere with pedestrians o side walk or public right-of-way. (b) No person shall ride roller skates, cc skateboards, toy vehicles, or similar devices ( public right-of-way in such a manner as to in
with or prevent the lawful use of a public ri way by vehicular traffic. (Ord. NS-246 6 2,195
traffic.
10.59.040 Toy vehicle use restrictions No person shall skate, or use or ride any roller skates, coaster, skateboard, bicycle, toy vehicle or other forms of transportation in any public drainage facility, culvert, ditch or channel, tennis courts or gymnasiums. (Ord. NS-246 9 1, 1993; Ord. 3143 5 1, 1982)
(Carlsbad 1-96)
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June 10,1997
' TO: MAYOR
CITY COUNCIL
FROM: Marilyn &rot$@' Y&'
' TO: MAYOR
CITY COUNCIL
FROM: Marilyn &rot$@' Y&'
SKATEBOARD PARK LETTERSlPHONE CALLS .AGENDA ITEM #8
Attached for your information are copies of the letters the Council has been receiving
regarding potential sites for a skateboard park. Although you have previously received
these letters, I thought it would be useful to have them in a complete package for use at
the Council Meeting.
Also attached is a listing of the citizens who have called into the Council office voicing
their concerns on the issue.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
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Attachments
C: City Manager
City Attorney
City Clerk
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CALAVERA HILLS OPPOSITION
Bernice Hill
3527 Somerset Way Michelle Eaton
Would create too much noise 2984 Ridgefield Avenue
Does not like unsupervised 2825 Andover Avenue Tim Ferris
2842 Fairfield Avenue Soheil Rahmati
concept; would encourage
drug and gang activity
Ken & Diana Steinke Other site would be better; 281 9 Newcastle Avenue
need the fire station
Barbara Viente & 2885 Lancaster Road Inappropriate use for site;
Dene Davidson skateboard culture has
Manice Gnibus 2971 Brandon Circle
'Jim Stocking 301 9 Greenwich
Mrs. Franz 3015 Greenwich Street Would prefer to have
Jim & Gloria Glenn 3053 Greenwich
Barbara Joseph 301 0 Greenwich
Gail Hurst 3500 Simsbuty Court
Melissa Murray 3507 Simsbury Need fire station due to close
proximity to canyons; will
encourage kids to come from
all over
with this type of use
become negative
skateboarders in the streets
Donna Reiff Residential area; does not mix 3031 Greenwich
. - Call in favor:
Susan Stotler
2986 Greenwich
She is a mother of 3 boys and thinks it would be a great idea.
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Dear Council Xernbers; Claude h..lewis,2anona ?innila,Ann Xulchir,, Jclanne Yygaard and xatt Zall
We were shocked to read in the North County Times of April 24,1997 and discoiter that our council was considering 'the building Of 8. 'Skate BoardN park h our front or back yards wh-re a proposed flre station was plannea and needed much more. We are jsure that the are many more appropriate sites in Carlsbad where the 'children car,
enjoy themselves and yet not annoy our little community.
We are sure that if the park was placed at this location, it would not be 10r.g before they vould cross the street and infiltrate into our neighborhood (as xe hz7e now) ana as a result, there goes 0u.r property values. %e are Gxit? sure that ynu wouldn't want one in your neighorhood.
We ask that ysu cleese evaii;ate this proposal and have consideration for all cf 2s In firding an appropriate place in 8 Eon-residential area fcr the childxn to have ?x. If they are r?,zt alLowed to skate in the -,-illage areas and other parts of Carlsbad, per CarlsSad Xm..Zade 10.58.013, :qhy ?he2 shoula we have to tolorzte it ir, our imediate ceighbornooc. ,
We appreciate and_ ';:yank 751~ -.y?ry Zuch for your thoughts an5
consideration to this proposal,
TJery truly yours,
Zarl S.& El'izabeth 5. Pic!
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From: Nancy Miller
Subject SKATEBOARD PHONE CALL
Date: 5/19/97 Time: 10:43AM
Virginia Garner (434-261 1) who lives in "The Trails" near Hope Elementary School asked that tl
following be passed on to Mayor and Council; She was responding from a flyer that was.placec
her door stating that "The Mayor and City Council are against this and the flyer says to call this
number with my complaints. I don't want this skateboard park ... not in my backyard. Especiall;
between the hours of 8 am and 10 pm. Children will be out on the streets. It will draw childre
from a lot of areas even San Diego and soon we'll need a traffic signal up heie. They'll go in ar
use the restroom at the lovely Recreation Center (Calavera) and be hanging around. This is cau
a lot of concern about this issue.
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Gail Sandera
3640 Citeshire Avemrc:
Carlsbad CdXGrnia 92008
(760) 729-3850
Jme 3, 1997
Mayor Claude A. Lewis
Carlsbad City Council
1200 CAbad Viuage Drive
Cadsbad, California 92008
Re: Proposed Skate Park
Dcm Mayor Lewis:
It has come to my attention that there is a proposal bch the Council to consider a
skateboard park located amss fiom Calavma Park. I feCt that designating o bation for
~ we is M excellent idea.
While I feel akateboard users need a place to skate, I do not feel this is the appmpriatc
location for a skate park almc.
The 6irst question I had was how will the average child living in carlsbad get to rhis park located in the eastan most mea of;the city? How could a pcrsoa, living dommwn say, get
to Calavera Hrlls?
Secondly, I was told that this park may not have suptrvision. Is this true? I can't imagine
lhat parent8 M area resident3 would be in favor of this. Has the Carlsbad Police Department oftkcd any opinion or suggestions regarding this? Loitcfiny is ccriain lo bc a
problem,
I~clthatifaskateboard~kLappmvedforthissitethatitbeleftopenforfiather
development of additional facilities that an en& famrty could benefit hm. Carlsbad daes
not have a full YMCA An area like Calama Hills would be perfect for a facility with
multiple uses 80 families could use it together. This would seem to make parents and
residents more open to the idca of a skattr being a? the facility Xthere q parents or other
adults nearby. The skate park at the Magdalena Ecke YMCA in Encinitas works mff &e R) being hGiudcd ia ffle prupm)c wnm wncfi? ~" = ww on.
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May 27,1997
Honorable Mayor and Council City of Carlsbad
Re: Proposed Skateboard Park Location - Calaveras Hills Park
As residents of the Cape, located directly across the street from the park, we wish to state that we are adamantly opposed to the idea of locating a skateboard park amss the street for the following reasons:
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We already contend with the noise and ballfield lights for the many, many field
uses at the park, day and night. We knew this would be the case when we
purchased our condo, however, these uses are family-oriented and extremely
well supervised by both the players’ family and coaching staff.. It Is difficult to
hear television or stem and the noise also impacts any evening entertainment we wish to host.
Our area suffers already from vandalism and recent acts of graffiti. Having
additional youth drawn to this area, particularly in an unsupervised activity will
only add to this problem.
3. There is insufficient parking to attend events at the park as it is. Traffic. already
heavy during events, will increase significantly with added activity. We so very much enjoy the summer concerts the City provides and the park fs a perfect venue. This residential area is certainly no place for a skateboard park!
4. The potential liability for injury in a sport such as skateboarding is enormOuS
which is the major reason there are so few places for this type of activity.
Regardless of what the state determines the City may be responsible for
financially, the City is just asking for trouble by allowing this type of activity.
5. Skateboarders will come to this area from quite some distance. Obviously they
won’t be able to all skate at the same time so there will be periods of waiting and inactivity for youth. These periods will provide opportunities for the kids to loiter
and litter all over the neighborhood as well as interfere with other scheduled activities at the park.
6. Take a look at what has happened to the parks in Oceanside because of
unsupervised youth. The gangs have taken over most of them and they are no
longer safe for family activity. Even Oceanside won’t approve this type of activity
in its parks. Skateboarding is not legal at all within the City except for a small
designated area.
Please take the above into consideration when you make your decision regarding the
existence and/or location of this skateboard park.
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. Mhelle L. Shanahan Dennis M. Stillson
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City of Carisbad
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92008
April 28,1997
Dear Mayor Lewis:
I understand the City Council is considering a site at Calavera Hills Park for a skateboard park
location. I hope I have been misinformed.
The current use of Calavera Hills Park includes the popular basketball games on the courts next to
Glasgow. I am glad we have such a well used popular park in my neighborhood, but the potential
use by skateboarders would exacerbate the existing unsafe road conditions at that location. The
' road is currently finished on one side only. The curb at the basketball courts is a No Par-
zone, but players consistently overlook the signs to park there anyway, in violation ofthe law and
at the expense of children and adults trying to cross a street with limited site distance and
compressed tra€tic. Adding skateboard cars transporting chrldren to skateboard in the area adds a
new dimension to an intersection at which people seldom abide by the stop signs at the comers.
The additional liabdity to the citizens of Carlsbad seem an unusual step to take to placate a few
people at the expense of the majority. We currently have children skateboarding on our streets,
but when asked the answer is they do not live around there.
Please reconsider this site for its intended use as a he station to replace the El Camino &
Chestnut location.
Sincerely,
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May 6, 1997
Ann Kulchin
Carlsbad City Council
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Councilwoman Kulchin:
We would like to express our concern and disapproval of a lot near Calavera Park as
being a choice for a proposed skateboard park in Carlsbad. We do not feel that Calavera
Hills is an appropriate area for this park. Calavera Park is used by many families with
young children, and Hope Elementary School is right around the corner. We have
concerns about an unsupervised skateboard park being in the center of an area that is used
by so many young children. The proposed lot is very much in the center of a residential
area, and quite frankly we don’t want the noise, trac and chaos that will undoubtedly.
come with this park. There is currently insufficient parking spaces in the area. We already
have a problem with skateboarders using Tamarack Ave. as a speedway, and this problem
will escalate if the park is built. It is just a matter of time before someone is injured or even
killed.
Since this park would be the only one in the area (of Carlsbad, Oceanside, and Vista) it
will no doubt attract many youths to our neighborhood. We love kids, but we do not love
the idea of flocks of kids invading our quiet neighborhood, and possibly bringing with
them vandalism, graffiti and crime. The fire station that has been planned for the property
would much better serve the community. In our opinion, a skateboard park should be
located in a less residential area with facilities that could support the skaters. Calavera
Hills is not the appropriate area. We have spoken to many neighbors and Calavera Hills
residents and we have not heard one positive -reaction to this proposed skateboard park.
Just ask yourself - Would I want a skateboard park in my neighborhood? The answer is
probably no. So please don’t put one in our neighborhood. Thank you for your
consideration on this matter.
Sincerely, st E% Steve Burke
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3503 Providence Lane Carlsbad, CA 92008 Home Phone 434-0809
May 07, 199
Mayor Bud Lewis
Carlsbad City Council
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Mayor'Lewis,
We have had great interest in the proposal of building a Skateboard park in the city. We have
many friends with children (and husbands!) who are skateboarders, and we fully agree that a designatec
area for them to skate would be beneficial for our city and it's residents.
concerned about the proposal for a skateboard park in this area. This quiet community park is literally ir
the heart of many quiet residential neighborhoods. While there is a broad specbum of events and
, activities at this communitycenter, the vast majority serve young children and families. Hope Elementary
drew us to mis area may be drastically changed with the addition of a skateboard park. The prospect of
no supervision of this park and unlimited hours, from school hours to late at night, worries us. It just
doesn't seem to fit the atmosphere of our "home".
we would ask you to consider the other costs, aside from just the monetary ones. Please, look in the
direction of a more appropriate location for this outlet for our skateboarding friends. Calavera Hills is
pede &...just the way it is. We don't want that to change.
As residents of the Villas of Calavera Hills, just a short distance from Calavera Park, we are
'School is within walking distance. As parents, we fear the peaceful, family oriented environment which
We understand that the financial aspect of this deasion seems to favor this location ... however
Sincerely 672
Ke F* and Jennifer Footi
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.Carlabad City Council Carlsbad, California
Dear City Council,
The proposed site for the skateboard park near Calavera .
Hills Community Center would not be a wise choice. The site at
MarrOn and Monroe would certainly be a better spot. The COmmUnit:
Center is adjacent to a highly populated resldential area and has
no support facilities such as restaurants ,and stores for the
riders to use. The other spot offers all of these and does not
border a residential neighborhood where the temptation to ride
. those sidewalks and driveways would be great.
No ma'tter where the park is located, the idea to have it un-
supervised is astonishing! How would the requirement for helmet=
and other safety gear be enforced? Kids being kida, how would
order be kept? What about litter? Supervision is a must.
Again, please choos'e the site at Marron and Monroe and hire
someone to supervise the place - everyone, including the kids, wi
be happier.
Sincerely, &EEww !&2*
Mary Ellen Frawley / 4593 Salem Place Carlsbad, CA 92008
(760)720-9402
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Mayor C!aud, A. "Bud" Lewis
city Council Members
Citg of Carlsbad.
1200 Carlsbad KLap Dr.
Carlsbad, CA 92008
'.Dmr Mayor Luis and the City Counci/Mernbers,
CmgratuIations on the wondeff;LI job you have done creating a pmcef;ll tranquil place
fm CaJsLad residents between tke duck pond on Jej$&son, througA the quaint Hosp
Park and over to the Hosp. Wmd trails and habitat. Having Iiv~d here for.13 gears, I
commend your efforts in this nodhwest quadrant of our town.
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Vllu e would 4 uotl even tLink qi ruining if mi&? Lz skakepark???
I have an eight-year-old son who would love to skate close to home but this is not
. the right place for so many reasons:
* Please visit the MarrodMonroe intersection and you wiu see that this is a
busy, dangerous crossinr! for chldren to be hanging out unsupervised. Wait €or the
WalMart to open and the tr&c dl increase dramatically. This is a dangerous
place for our Li&!
* Carlsbad's beaches already attract kids from Vista, San Marcos and
Oceanside. Imagine the number of kids from towns close by coming to such a
convenient place -- d there even be space for Carlsbad kids?
* Skateboarders in downtown Carlsbad have not yet shown any interest in
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obeying the rules of the city. By encouraging their access to this partidm section
of town, we are entickg &em to litter the duclt pond (a civic and envtanmeqt al
proLlem), misuse tLe playground intended lor younger clddren, and Langout in
Hosp Grove, where we have already been faced with drug problems, transients, and
trash.
May I suggest that you select a site that already has maintenance crews available
and, perhaps, some police ohemation. A site that is already a community site, with
rules and regulations, will help to stem the tide of dy behavior. Adjacent to the
Carlsbad Raceway off Palomar Airport Rd. would afford all of the Aove'whle
keeping " the noise away from residential areas. A site near Calaveras Park may also
work.
The YMCA Encinitas has a wonderful skate park because.it is controlled,
, monitored and located where it has the least amount of interference with the
'community. Please consider these very important factors when selecting CzlsbaJs
site.
Sincerely, / %/,- &%
Nancy it( Loucas
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Diana Piersoll
2133 Monroe Street
Carlsbad, California 92008
760 720-0435
May 14,1997
Mayor Claude A. "Bud" Lewis City of Carlsbad 1200 Carlsbad Village Drive Carlsbad, California 92008
Dear Mayor Lewis:
I too believe that skateboarders of Carlsbad should have a spot where they can do their skating - but Mom and Marron is not it. With the Wai-Mart center under construction just a couple of blocks away, the already busy intersection is going to be a traffic nightmare. And parking, which is tight now for the Olive Garden and Soupplantation across the street from the proposed park site, would be abominable.
Perhaps the most important reason for locating a skateboard park in some other part of the
city is that Monroe and Marron is on the border with Oceanside and the park would draw an enormous amount of participation from Oceanside, Vista and San Marcos. Carisbad kids wouldn't have a chance. Furdiemore. since it is at the very northern tip of Carlsbad, the site would be a tough one for Carlsbad kids to reach.
One other matter. My house and my neighbors' houses are close enough to the proposed location that the sound of skateboards would definitely get to us loud and clear. The noise coming up from the mall parking lot at the time of the San Diego Marathon has given us
- just a small sample. There are many houses across the street from us in Hosp Woods that would also be impacted.
I trust that the search will continue for a site that would be handy for Carlsbad kids and would not put them in the position of having to fight off outsiders to use their own
skateboard facility.
7. Sincerely,
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PAT WHITE
2882 WOODRIDGE CIRCLE
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92008
760 434-7227
May 15, 1997
Claude A. "Bud" Lewis, Mayor
Cit,y of Carlsbad
1200 Curisbad Villaxe Drive
Carisbad, California 92008
Dear Mayor Lewis:
. . I am puzzled by the suflestion that the city's proposed'skatebourd park might be placed
at the corner uf .Monrae Street and Murron. ?he location is an e.z$remel y buy one, &void
qf parkinx und so .fur north it would cercuiniy not be readily accessible ,for most Carisbad
kids.
On the other hand, it would be a magnet for kids from Oceanside, Vista and Sun Marcos.
It is almost on the Oceanside border ad is just a block from Highway 78, so any
Carlsbad skaters who wanted to use it would have to .fight their way throuxh kids from
other cities.
One other matter. Many of the houses in our complex are close enough to the proposed
location that the noise would be u terrible nuisance. Skuteboards -noisy miif the
park were open until 1O:oO ut nixht, not many of' our people would have the ''quiet
enjoyment"oftlteir homes. Surely there must be u more centrd location available where
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. use of the park wodd not impuct Local residents.
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CALAVERA HILLS OPPOSITION
Dene .Davidson skateboard culture has
become negative
Manice Gnibus
Would prefer to have 301 5 Greenwich Street Mrs. Franz
301 9 Greenwich Jim Stocking
2971 Brandon Circle
Jim & Gloria Glenn 3053 Greenwich
Barbara Joseph 301 0 Greenwich
Gail Hurst 3500 Simsbury Court
Melissa Murray Need fire station due to close 3507 Simsbury
proximity to canyons; will
encourage kids to come from
skateboarders in the streets
all over
with this type of use
Donna Reiff
Opposed Richard Hannasch
Residential area; does not mix 3031 Greenwich
Call in favor:
+:*Susan Stotler
2986 Greenwich
She is a mother of 3 boys and thinks it would be a great idea.
+:+ Cliff Stabler
281 4 Newcastle Waye
Is in .favor of a supervised park.
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