HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-01-17; City Council; 18412; Deny Appeal & uphold of Traffic Safety CommissionCITY OF CARLSBAD - AGENDA BILL
AB# 18,412
MTG. 1/17/06
DEPT. ENG
TITLE: DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
TO NOT IMPLEMENT AN ALL-WAY STOP AT THE HOSP WAY/
WINTERGREEN DRIVE/GROVE AVENUE INTERSECTION
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Deny the appeal of Wanda Wood and uphold the Traffic Safety Commission recommendation to not
implement an all-way stop at the Hosp Way/Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue intersection.
ITEM EXPLANATION:
The Traffic Safety Commission, at their December 5, 2005 meeting, considered the request of
Wanda Wood to implement an all-way stop at the Hosp Way/Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue
intersection. Her request was denied by a 3-1 vote of the Commission.
Hosp Way is a two-lane, curvilinear roadway 0.75 miles in length that intersects Monroe Street on
the west and terminates at El Camino Real. Sidewalk, curb and gutter, and street lights have been
constructed on both sides. Traffic is controlled on Hosp Way with a stop sign at Monroe Street,
an all-way stop at the T-intersection of Forest View Way, and a traffic signal at El Camino Real.
The posted speed limit on Hosp Way is 30 miles per hour and curve warning signs, in combination
with a speed advisory sign of 25 miles per hour, are posted in each direction. Approximately
2,200 vehicles per day travel on Hosp Way near the subject intersection.
Criteria (warrants) have been formulated for use in evaluation of need for an all-way stop sign
location. The primary purpose of a stop sign is to assign right-of-way. In general, stop signs are
considered for installation in a manner that will minimize the number of vehicles having to stop and
to provide for acceptable intersection operations. One of the warrants is the review of the collision
history in the 12-month period prior to the study at the intersection to determine if the collision(s) is
of a type susceptible to. correction by installing a stop sign. At the subject intersection, there have
been no reported collisions for more than 10 years.
The volume warrant is also not met at the subject intersection. A traffic count obtained on April 19,
2005 determined the following volumes approaching the intersection over a 24-hour period.
Generally, an all-way stop may be considered if the approach volume on each leg of the intersection
is approximately equal. At the subject intersection, the side street traffic volumes are substantially
less than the east-west through volume on Hosp Way.
24-HOUR INTERSECTION APPROACH VOLUMES
LOCATION
Hosp Way/Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue
VOLUME BY DIRECTION
NB
220
SB
89
EB
1,015
WB
1,187
TOTAL INTERSECTION
APPROACH VOLUME
(VEHICLES)
2,511
Corner sight distance was measured at the subject intersection. For the 30 mile per hour speed limit
posting, corner sight distance exceeds the minimum required when looking westerly from
Wintergreen Drive and easterly from Grove Avenue. The available stopping sight distance for
drivers approaching the intersection on Hosp Way from both directions to view conflicts at the
intersection exceeds the minimum required for the posted speed limit.
The combination of low traffic volumes, available corner and stopping sight distance, and low
speeds all contribute to the acceptable operation of the intersection. The Traffic Safety Commission
did not determine a need to establish an all-way stop at the Hosp Way/Wintergreen Drive/
Grove Avenue intersection.
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ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW:
The action being considered by the City Council is not considered a project pursuant to section
15378 of CEQA and, therefore, is exempt and not subject to environmental review.
FISCAL IMPACT:
No fiscal impact projected as a result of the Traffic Safety Commission recommendation.
EXHIBITS:
1. Appeal form by Wanda Wood.
2. Location Map.
3. Traffic Safety Commission minutes from the December 5, 2005 meeting.
DEPARTMENT CONTACT: Robert T. Johnson, Jr., (760) 602-2752, bjohn@ci.carlsbad.ca.us
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On December 5,2005 the TriafEcTSafefy Commission denied the request to change the
present two way stop at Hasp Way and Wintet^reatt Drtve/Grow Awnue to an «!i-way
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ATTACHMENT TO APPEAL FORM DATED DECEMBER 14,2005
Reasoa(s) for Appeal
The Carlsbad Transportation Division's presentation at the December 5* Traffic Safety
Commission meeting was extensive in detailing the rationale for retaining the status quo
at the Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue intersection. As a lay citizen I do
not possess the capability to refute the Carlsbad Transportation Division's assessment
There are, however, other considerations that need to be addressed beyond those set forth
in the City's technical presentation of December 5th. First, there is virtually no visibility
to the right when leaving Wintergreen and moving onto Hosp and limited visibility to the
left. Even though there his not to date been a recorded multi-vehicle accident at this
intersection it nonetheless remains a very dangerous intesection. Secondly, the City has
established precedence fof an all-way stop at Hosp/Wintergreen/Orove through the
previous installation of toe all-way stop at Hosp Avenue and Forrest View Way, even
though this intersection also does not meet the requirements for an all-way stop. The
visibility characteristics of the Hosp/Forrest View Way and Hosr/Wintergreen/Grove
intersections are similar. However, the Hosp/Forrest View Way intersection serves 20
residences while the Hosp/Wintergreen intersection serves 72. If it is not feasible, either
by design criteria or cost, to have an all-way stop at both of these intersections, then the
present all-way stop at Hosp/Forrest View Way should be relocated to
Hosp/Wmtergreen/Grave due to the larger volume of traffic.
LOCATION MAP
STUDY
INTERSECTION
LEGEND
Existing All-Way STOP
NOT TO SCALE
REQUEST FOR ALL-WAY STOP AT
HOSP WAY/WINTERGREEN DRIVE/GROVE AVENUE INTERSECTION
Exhibit
December 5,2005 Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Page 3
fromsehool because of safety and security issues. There is a heavy influx of parents in^that short
period of time^n the morning and afternoon. Sidewalks are really not the issue neaj>Valley Middle
School. If it werejijjjt putting in sidewalks to take care of the problem, that woxjWbe one thing; but it
goes beyond that.
ITEM 5 - PREVIOUS BUSINESS>
Robert Johnson stated that at the City Councin»<|ting of November 15, 2005, the City Council
unanimously denied the appeal of Mr. Brian^JemackYr«garding his request that the no parking signs
during street sweeping hours be remoyedon Marina Drive>Mr. Bernacki did not attend that City
Council meeting. However, thematter was heard. The presicteal of the Bristol Cove Property
Owners' Association spoke ajxTasked the City Council to not alter me^parking tunes on Park Drive
which was in keeping mxwith what the Commission had recommended.
Mr. Johnsonstafed that the recommendations made by the Commission at the NovSraber 7, 2005
Traffic Safety Commission meeting that addressed the existing and new truck routes is tentatively
sch^ckued for the City Council meeting of December 1 3 , 2005 for the City Council to consider 1
^commendations.
ITEM 6 - NEW BUSINESS:
ITEM 6A: Establish an all-way stop on Hosp Way at the intersection of Wintergreen
Drive/Grove Avenue.
Commissioner Gardner recused herself from participating in this item because she lives close to the
subject area and it may be a conflict of interest.
Mr. Johnson stated that this item was a request to establish an all-way stop on Hosp Way at the
intersection of Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue. He introduced John Kim, Associate Engineer, who
provided the staff report.
Mr. Kim stated that this item was originated as a request from Ms. Wanda Wood for an all-way stop
on Hosp Way at Wintergreen Drive. Staff conducted the necessary traffic studies and found that an
all-way stop was not warranted at this location. After sharing the results with Ms. Wood, she then
requested that this issue be heard as a Traffic Safety Commission item. It was originally scheduled
for October, but had been continued to the December 5,2005 meeting at her request.
Mr. Kim stated that Hosp Way was an unclassified public street. Referring to Exhibit 1 on the Power
Point slide, he stated that Hosp Way was a fully improved two-way roadway and has curb, gutter,
sidewalks, and street lights on both sides of the street. Traffic control on Hosp Way is currently
December 5, 2005 Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Page 4
provided by a traffic signal at El Camino Real and an existing all-way stop at Forest View Way. The
horizontal alignment for Hosp Way is generally curvilinear throughout its alignment. Due to the
curvilinear geometries of the road, curve-warning signs have been posted on both approaches to the
intersection of Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive, with advisory speeds of 25 mph below the curve-
warning signs.
Referring to the slides, Mr. Kim stated that the vertical alignment of Hosp Way varies from 1.86% to
11.0% throughout the alignment, with a centerline slope of 4.0% at the intersection of Wintergreen
Drive/Grove Avenue. Hosp Way has a posted speed limit of 30 miles per hour. The critical speed
was found to be 35 mph at a location 300 feet west of Avenida Magnifica. Historical mid-block
counts show the volumes on Hosp Way to be a little over 2,000 vehicles per day. The design volume
for a collector street ranges from 2,000 to 10,000 vehicles per day.
Mr. Kim stated that stop signs are generally used to assign right of way to drivers. Stop signs were
not intended to be a means to reduce speed. The criteria that Carlsbad uses to implement an all-way
stop are based on the 2003 Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) as amended by
the MUTCD 2003 California Supplement.
There are some arguments against the use of unneeded stop signs. One argument is the concept of
traffic control device uniformity. A stop sign used at an intersection where a full stop is vitally
needed to prevent right angle collisions should not be considered at locations where drivers are not
faced with any unusual or unexpected conflicts. The collision history of an intersection should be
examined carefully as unwarranted stop signs do not necessarily prevent collisions. In fact, certain
types of accidents such as rear-end collisions may increase at locations having a stop sign that is
unnecessary. Unwarranted stop signs create a substantial inconvenience for the motorist.
Another argument against unwarranted stop signs, Mr. Kim stated, is the concern that if a stop sign
seems to imply a nuisance regulation, observance of this regulatory device deteriorates and safety at
intersections can become compromised. Drivers tend to ignore unwarranted stop signs. Other
consequences of unwarranted stop signs include the increase in air pollution and noise pollution
associated with vehicles decelerating to a stop unnecessarily, idling, and then accelerating from the
stop.
Mr. Kim stated that the MUTCD criteria for all-way stop signs are broken into three criteria. Criteria
A = Interim Traffic Control Measure; Criteria B = Accident Experience; and Criteria C = Minimum
Traffic Volumes.
Interim Traffic Control Measure means this location can have an all-way stop before a proposed
traffic signal is installed. This location was studied for the 2006 Traffic Signal Evaluation Policy, but
no traffic signal warrants were met and a traffic signal is not proposed at this location.
Accident Experience. The all-way stop criteria analysis considers the number of collisions that have
been reported in a 12-month period at an intersection of the type susceptible to correction by an all-
way stop. Staff researched the four-year collision occurrence history of reported collisions at the
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subject intersection to determine if there has been a past collision pattern. There have been no
reported intersection collisions. However, there have been two reported collisions near the subject
intersection during this four-year period. Both incidents involved a single vehicle that ran off the
roadway and the accidents were not of the type susceptible to correction by having an all-way stop.
Based on the collision history, this intersection is not considered to be a "high accident" location.
Minimum Traffic Volumes. The 24-hour approach volumes at this location were obtained and the
volumes did not meet the minimum requirements. An all-way stop is generally considered if the
approach volumes on each leg of the intersection are approximately equal. Side street traffic volume
is substantially less than the through volume of the major road, which is Hosp Way.
Mr. Kim stated that the comer sight distance value necessary for the design speed of30 mph on a
collector street is given as 350 feet (corner sight distance required for 35 mph is 402 feet). Staff
conducted measurements of the existing corner sight distance that is available for drivers on the side
streets to view an approaching vehicle. The driver position was assumed to be 9.8 feet behind the
prolongation of the curb line with the front of the vehicle positioned at the curb and gutter
prolongation. The mhiimum corner sight distance is met for the westerly direction from Wintergreen
Drive and the easterly direction from Grove Avenue. The minimum stopping sight distance is
satisfied for both directions for the design speed and posted speed limit of 30 mph.
In conclusion, Mr. Kim stated that based on the above findings, warrants had not been met to
establish an all-way stop at Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue. Therefore, the Traffic
Safety Coordinating Committee recommends that an all-way stop not be established at the Hosp
Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue intersection.
DISCUSSION;
Commissioner Roney asked if there has ever been a signal at that intersection.
Mr. Kim stated that staff evaluates potential traffic signal locations on a bi-annual basis. There are
warrants associated with that evaluation. He was not aware that this location has ever met any
warrants for a traffic signal, and has therefore never been proposed for a future traffic signal.
Commissioner Roney stated that at one time his mother had been asked to sign a disclosure for a
potential traffic signal at the intersection.
Mr. Kim said that it has never met signal warrants.
Mr. Johnson stated that in the mid-80's, when development was occurring around that intersection,
the developer designed a traffic signal at that time as a condition of project approval that some day
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there may be a need. However, that need is based on meeting traffic signal warrants. There is a 20-
year old traffic signal design on file if there were to be a traffic signal that would have to be updated
to current standards. There are no plans to put a traffic signal in at this tune.
Commissioner Bradshaw said that as she looked at the historical vehicular volumes, she saw that in
1999 traffic peaked out at nearly 3,200 vehicles per day, and now it is at about 2,500 vehicles per
day. Was there a detour in the area or what caused that spike in the vehicular volumes?
Mr. Kim replied that is was almost impossible to say what caused that spike. Traffic volumes are
based on a hose that is stretched onto the roadway. If you look at historical day-to-day recording of
traffic volume, you would see that it varies. There is no record as to why that spike of 3,200 vehicles
occurred, but it could be due to a detour situation. There is just no way of knowing. Mr. Johnson
noted that traffic volumes could change due to new roads being implemented like the College
Boulevard/Cannon Road corridor being opened last year.
Commissioner Bradshaw asked when the stop sign was installed on Hosp Way and Forest View
Way.
Mr. Kim stated that he thought it was approximately four to five years ago.
Commissioner Cress asked if that all-way stop met the warrants.
Mr. Kim stated that it did not. The City Council directed the staff to install it.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY:
Chair Dorsey opened Public Testimony.
Wanda Wood, 2952 Wintergreen Drive, Carlsbad stated that she represented the Homeowners
Association. She said that although Mr. Kim had stated that none of the criteria had been met for a
stop sign, those residents that used that intersection on a daily basis saw a need for a stop sign. She
felt there existed a reasonable expectation to be able to exit Grove Avenue and be able to get out
onto Hosp Way without having to be involved in an automobile accident.
Ms. Wood handed the Commissioners a packet of photos as a handout that depicted various streets in
her neighborhood. Item 1 is a view where one would exit Wintergreen turning left onto Hosp Way;
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Item 2 is a view exiting Wintergreen turning right onto Hosp Way; Item 3 is a view on Hosp Way
after exiting Wintergreen at the intersection; and Item 4 is an area map.
Ms. Wood stated that the homeowners felt that stop signs were needed before serious accidents or
fatalities occurred. Accidents have occurred - one vehicle hit a house and caused damage. There
have been multiple near misses. 72 homeowners use this intersection on a daily basis. Ms. Wood
wondered how a stop sign got installed on Forest View Way where only 20 homes have access. She
stated that if cost was an issue, then perhaps the Forest View Way stop sign could be moved to their
intersection instead. Traffic flow has changed. Homeowners are using Donna Drive because it is so
hard to get out from Wintergreen Drive onto Hosp Way. Ms. Wood showed a snapshot of a
handmade sign that said "Slow - Blind Curve - Proceed with Caution " The only problem was that it
was on the wrong side of the street because there was no sign for them to attach the sign to. The
citizens that live in that area are really concerned. She asked each of the Commissioners to take
some time and drive at the area in question so they could see what is going on.
Chair Dorsey closed Public Testimony.
Commissioner Roney asked what the logic was of moving a stop sign out to Wintergreen Drive from
Forest View Way.
Mr. Kim stated that it was not a cost issue, so that would not be a consideration of that stop sign. The
Forest View Way location had a more limited sight distance situation there than at Wintergreen
Drive.
Commissioner Cress stated that since the Forest View Way site was established by ordinance, it
would require an ordinance to either move it or do away with it.
Mr. Johnson stated that the City Council adopted an ordinance to establish the all-way stop at Hosp
and Forest View Way, so they would have to rescind that ordinance if that were the ultimate
recommendation. Stop signs are very serious traffic control devices; they are not just moved around
like chess pieces. Stop signs are put in for a reason. City Council directed staff to install the one at
Forest View Way. What is being discussed today are the merits of this particular intersection at
Wintergreen Drive.
December 5,2005 Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Page 8
MOTION:
ACTION:
VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Motion by Commissioner Cress, and duly seconded by Commissioner
Roney, to recommend that an all-way stop not be established at Hosp
Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue.
3-1-0
Dorsey, Cress, Roney
Bradshaw
None
ITi£M 6B: Establish a prima facie speed limit upon Alicante Road from Alga Road tj
Poinsettia Lane.
Mr. Johnso^stated that this item is a request to establish a prima facie speed limit on Alicante Road
from Alga Roadto Poinsettia Lane. Referring to Exhibit 1, he stated that Alicante Roadterminates at
Poinsettia Lane rqr public traffic use. In the future, Alicante Road will be extended northerly to
provide access to the Bressi Ranch Development and to serve the Alga Norte jKommunity Park.
South of Alga Road, Alicante Road has a posted speed limit of 40 miles per^hour.
Alicante Road is a residential serving road located in the Villages of>ta Costa development. It
opened hi April 2005 and is 1. Dvrniles hi length. There is a 750-foot segment of Alicante Road north
of Alga Road that has a landscapechnedian dividing both directiorXof travel. The remaining portion
of roadway has a double-yellow cente^hjie strip with one traveUane in each direction. Alicante Road
functions as a local collector road. A collector road has a daily traffic volume capacity range of
between 2,000 and 10,000 vehicles. A traffXcount was obtained at two locations on Alicante Road
on November 9,2005 to determine the two-wa$Q 24-h«mr average daily traffic volume. The recent
count data ranges between 1,400 and 1,800 vehiblgfiper day.
Staff reviewed the Police Department collisiorireportsl^r the time period from the date that the road
opened in early April. One collision has been reported on th^s new roadway segment. It was a hit and
run collision that resulted when the vehicle ran off the road and knocked over a street light pole.
Mr. Johnson stated that staff conducted a speed survey on AlicanteNRoad on November 8,2005 to
determine the critical speed ofyehicles. The critical speed was determmed to be 41 mph. The critical
speed is used to help determine the appropriate prima facie speed to pfcst upon a roadway. The
premise hi speed zoning/fs that the majority of drivers are traveling at or near the 85th percentile
speed which is considered a reasonable speed. With a 41 mph critical speed, thisswould indicate that
we should be lookjiig at a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit unless there areS^me extenuating
circumstances that might require an additional lowering of 5 miles per hour.
Mr. John>6n said that the three most persuasive arguments for setting a realistic or rational speed
limit ape: (1) critical speed; (2) collision history; and (3) conditions that may not be readily apparent
to tfce driver. Based upon the results of the Engineering and Traffic Survey, the Traffic Safe*
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City of Carlsbad
Office of the City Clerk
December 15, 2005
Bob Johnson
PW - Engineering
RE: Hosp Way and Winterqreen Drive/Grove Avenue - Request to change the present
two-way stop to an all-way stop.
THE ABOVE ITEM HAS BEEN APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
According to the Municipal Code, most appeals must be heard by the City Council
within 30 days of the date that the appeal was filed. (REMINDER: If the notice requires
a public hearing, the item will not be noticed in the newspaper until the agenda bill is
signed off by the City Manager and the City Attorney).
Please process this item in accordance with the procedures contained in the Agenda
Bill Preparation Manual. If you have any questions, please call.
Karen Kundtz, Assistant City Clerk, 760-434-2917
Copies To: Glenn Pruim, Engineering Enclosed: Copy of appeal
City Manager Copy of agenda
City Attorney
The appeal of the above matter should be scheduled for the City Council Meeting of
Signature Date
H:\Appeals\Appeal Notice to Department-Wanda Wood. 12-14-05.doc
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has multiple elements, (such as a General Pian Amendment, Negative Declaration, Specific
Plan, etc.) piease list them ali. If you only want to appeal a part of the whole action, please
state that here.
On December 5, 2005 the TrafficlSafety Commission denied the request to change the
present two way stop at Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue to an all-way
stop. The basis for this denial was the Carlsbad Transportation Division assertion that the
present two way stop meets the minimum criteria as set forth by the Caltrans Highway
Design Manual.
Reasonls) for Appeal; * Please Note * Failure to specify a reason may result in denial of the
appeal, and you wil! be limited to the grounds stated here when presenting your appea
BE SPECIFIC How did the decision maker err? What about the decision is inconsistent witn
state or local laws, plans, or policy?
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DATE City,State,
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ATTACHMENT TO APPEAL FORM DATED DECEMBER 14, 2005
Reason(s) for Appeal
The Carlsbad Transportation Division's presentation at the December 5th Traffic Safety
Commission meeting was extensive in detailing the rationale for retaining the status quo
at the Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue intersection. As a lay citizen I do
not possess the capability to refute the Carlsbad Transportation Division's assessment.
There are, however, other considerations that need to be addressed beyond those set forth
in the City's technical presentation of December 5th. First, there is virtually no visibility
to the right when leaving Wintergreen and moving onto Hosp and limited visibility to the
left. Even though there has not to date been a recorded multi-vehicle accident at this
intersection it nonetheless remains a very dangerous intersection. Secondly, the City has
established precedence for an all-way stop at Hosp/Wintergreen/Grove through the
previous installation of the all-way stop at Hosp Avenue and Forrest View Way, even
though this intersection also does not meet the requirements for an all-way stop. The
visibility characteristics of the Hosp/Forrest View Way and Hosp/Wintergreen/Grove
intersections are similar. However, the Hosp/Forrest View Way intersection serves 20
residences while the Hosp/Wintergreen intersection serves 72. If it is not feasible, either
by design criteria or cost, to have an all-way stop at both of these intersections, then the
present all-way stop at Hosp/Forrest View Way should be relocated to
Hosp/Wintergreen/Grove due to the larger volume of traffic.
MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
CITY OF CARLSBAD
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2005
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 3:00 P.M.
1200 CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Comments from the audience on items not listed in the agenda will be heard at this time;
however, no action will be taken by the Commission until the matter is placed on a future
agenda. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes. (A total of five [5] speakers will
be heard.) Fifteen minutes is provided for the public comment portion of the Agenda.
5. PREVIOUS BUSINESS
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. Hosp Way intersection with Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue - Request to
establish an all-way stop.
B. Alicante Road, Alga Road to Poinsettia Lane - Request to establish a prima facie
speed limit.
C. Poinsettia Lane, El Camino Real to Melrose Drive - Request to establish a prima
facie speed limit.
7. REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS
8. REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER
9. ADJOURNMENT
CERTIFICATE OF POSTING
1 do hereby certify that a copy of the foregoing
agenda was posted on the door of tha Council
Chambers
Signature
Marcia Long - Re:' Apjiijeal Jo jClty Council ] " ^ \ ' ' Page 1
From: Bob Johnson
To: Marcia Long
Date: 12/15/2005 10:59:14 AM
Subject: Re: Appeal to City Council
Thanks Marcia. We will follow-up to get it scheduled for the City Council to consider.
Marcia Long 12/15/05 10:17 AM >»>»
Bob:
Please find attached the appeal made by Wanda Wood regarding the Traffic Safety Commission denial of
the request to change the present two-way stop at Hosp Way and Wintergreen Drive/Grove Avenue to an
all-way stop.
Also, attached is a copy of the December 5, 2005, Traffic Safety Commission Agenda.
Please let this department know if you any questions.
Thank you,
Marcia Long
Senior Office Specialist
City Clerk's Office
City of Carlsbad
(760) 434-2808
Fax (760) 720-6917
mlonq@ci.carlsbad.ca.us
Hosp Way / Wintergreen Drive / Grove Avenue Intersection
REQUEST TO ESTABLISH ANALL-WAY STOP
Appeal of December 5, 2005 Traffic Safety Commission Recommendation
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