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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-12-16; City Council; 19678; Removal of Stop Signs at El Fuerte St& Chorlito StCITY OF CARLSBAD - AGENDA BILL 16 AB# MTG. DEPT. 19,678 12/16/08 CM Request for removal of stop signs at intersection of El Fuerte Street and Chorlito Street DEPT. HEAD CITY ATTY. CITY MGR. UA RECOMMENDED ACTION: Receive a presentation from Jeff Painter. ITEM EXPLANATION: The City Council provides an opportunity for citizens and organizations to have an item placed on a City Council Agenda by submitting a letter to the City Manager. Attached is a letter from Jeff Painter requesting the opportunity to make a presentation to the City Council regarding a request to remove the all way stop signs at the intersection of El Fuerte Street and Chorlito Street. FISCAL IMPACT: None. EXHIBITS: 1. Letter to City Manager Lisa Hildabrand, from Jeff Painter. DEPARTMENT CONTACT: Rob Houston 760-434-2958 rhous@ci.carlsbad.ca.us FOR C/7Y CLERKS USE ONLY. COUNCIL ACTION: APPROVED D DENIED D CONTINUED D WITHDRAWN D AMENDED D CONTINUED TO DATE SPECIFIC D CONTINUED TO DATE UNKNOWN D RETURNED TO STAFF D OTHER-SEE MINUTES D No action was taken(See Minute? for detaiIs. ) \ \ Lisa Hildabrand, City Manager, City of Carlsbad Transmitted by email October 7, 2008 Dear Lisa; I am writing to request that the all way stop signs at the intersection of El Fuerte St. and Chorlito St. be removed. I am currently, and have been a resident of Carlsbad since 1982, and I also work in Carlsbad, traveling to and from work along El Fuerte St. a minimum of four times a day. I know that the City Council approved the installation of the signs over the recommendation of staff, due to pressure from a few local residents, but I think that decision should be rethought, in consideration of other local residents, and also in the light of $4 gas prices these days. I am enclosing two photographs of the intersection, one taken from the south, and one from the north. The two stop signs appear in the middle of a lazy country lane in a 45 mph zone. The photos remind me of the scene from "Blazing Saddles", when the sheriff installs a toll gate in the middle of the prairie, hoping that the bad guys are dumb enough to stop at it. The speed limit on El Fuerte is 45 mph. Then, for no apparent reason, everyone has to slam on their brakes and stop at an intersection that is always, I repeat, always, empty. It is ridiculous. I have never seen a car turning into, or from Chorlito Street. Speed there is not really an issue. Coming from the south, there is already a stop sign two blocks south at Unicornio, and from the north, it is all up a steep grade. If speed is still an issue, you could reduce the speed in that couple of blocks to 35, or put up "traffic calmed zone" signs up. But to make us all come to a complete stop from 45 mph on a country lane is not fair to us local residents who regularly travel on El Fuerte. I live one-half block in from Alga, and I confess that I would love to have all of the cars traveling on Alga at the speed limit of 50 m.p.h. slam on their brakes and have to stop when they are approaching my intersection too, but, let's be realistic.... hi both of these cases. I am requesting that the Carlsbad City Council follow their own staff recommendation and be more considerate of all of us who live in the area, and not just the few who live right near the intersection.. Sincerely, Jeff Painter 661 1 Santa Isabel St., #107 Carlsbad, Ca., 92009 (760) 930-4003 COPY COPY 295 foot corner sight distance From Chapter 200, first paragraph, page 1: "Corner sight distance is used at intersections (see Index 405.1, Figure 405.7, and Figure 504.3J)." Chapter 400, Topic 405: (a) General—At unsignalized intersections a substantially clear line of sight should be maintained between the driver of a vehicle waiting at the crossroad and the driver of an approaching vehicle. Table 405.1 A Corner Sight Distance (7-1/2 Second Criteria) Design Speed Corner Sight (mph) Distance (ft) 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 275 330 285 440 495 550 605 660 715 770 Sketch 1 COPY VIEW OF SPEEDING EL FUERTE STREET TRAFFIC BY CHORLITO STREET DRIVER WITH RETAINING WALL OBSTRUCTION PER CALTRANS SECTION 405.1 Measurement of Corner Sight Distance per 405.1: "In determining corner sight distance, a set back distance for the vehicle waiting at the crossroad must be assumed. Set back for the driver on the crossroad shall be a minimum of 10 feet plus the shoulder width of the major road but not less than 15 feet. Corner sight distance is to be measured from a 3.5-foot height at the location of the driver on the minor road to a 4.25-foot object height in the center of the approaching lane of the major road." Sketch 2 COPY AGENDA ITEM # c: Mayor City Council M l II I I T C O City Manager I N U T E S CityAttomey City Clerk MEETING OF : CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting) • • DATE OF MEETING: May 8,2007 • TIME OF MEETING: 6:00 p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Lewis called the Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk, as follows: Present: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. Absent: None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, minutes of the following meeting were approved as presented: Minutes of the Regular Meeting held April 24, 2007. PRESENTATION: Mayor Lewis presented a Proclamation to Police Chief Tom Zoll in recognition of Law Enforcement Officers' Memorial Day, May 9, 2007. CONSENT CALENDAR: Item No. 10 was pulled for discussion. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, Item Nos. 1 through 9, 11 and 12 as follows: AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: Council waived the reading of the text of all Ordinances and Resolutions at this Meeting. 1. AB #18.983 - STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NO. 1. Council adopted RESOLUTION NOS. 2007-097. 2007-098 AND 2007-099. initiating proceedings and ordering the preparation of an Engineer's Report of a Special Maintenance District, and approving the Preliminary Engineer's Report, and setting a Public Hearing for July 10, 2007. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 2 2 AB #18.984 - STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NO. 2. Council adopted RESOLUTION NOS. 2007-100. 2007-101 AND 2007-102. initiating proceedings and ordering the preparation of an Engineer's Report of a Special Maintenance District, and approving the Preliminary Engineer's Report, and setting a Public Hearing for July 10, 2007. 3. AB #18.985 - BUENA VISTA CHANNEL MAINTENANCE DISTRICT ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-103. approving the annual benefit assessments for the Buena Vista Channel Maintenance district Benefit Area No. 1. 4. AB #18.986 - SEACREST RIDGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENT. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-104. approving an Affordable Housing Agreement with Cyril and Joanne Kellett to allow a housing alternative through the construction of a second dwelling unit to satisfy the inclusionary housing requirement for the Seacrest Ridge Minor Subdivision. 5. AB #18.987 - 2007-2008 CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-105. approving the submittal of the 2007- 2008 Consolidated Action Plan for the Community Development Block Grant Program to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. 6. AB #18.996 - DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE (QBE) PROGRAM. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-112. approving the City of Carlsbad Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) Program as contained within Council Policy Statement No. 67, and authorizing the execution of the DBE Program Race-Neutral Implementation Agreement. 7. AB #18.988-ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-106. accepting the donation from the Rotary Club of Encinitas to benefit Carlsbad Youth Sports Programs and the Sportsmanship/T.R.U.S.T Program. 8. AB #18.989 - SETTLEMENT OF CLAIM. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-107. accepting the Stipulations with Award authorizing the expenditure of funds for the settlement of the Workers' Compensation Claim of Judy E. Blackburn. 9. AB #18,990 - TERMINATING THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-108. terminating the existence of a local emergency first declared on March 15, 2005. 10. AB #18,991 - ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUNDS. This item was pulled for discussion. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 3 11. AB #18.997 - ADDITION OF NEW CLASSIFICATION MATRIX FOR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR SERIES. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-113. adding the classifications of Associate Contract Administrator, Buyer/Contract Administrator and Senior Contract Administrator, reclassifying personnel, amending the salary schedule for the Carlsbad City Employees Association, and amending the Local Conflict of Interest Code. 12.AB #18.998 -TERMINATING THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-114. terminating the local emergency declared on April 1, 2007, and providing an update on the Buena Vista Sewer Line Spill. DISCUSSION OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM: 10. AB #18.991 - ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUNDS. Fire Division Chief Chris Heiser gave a brief overview of the equipment to be purchased with the grant funds. He also explained that the Mobile Data Computer Program is part of a regional integrated fire dispatching program. In response to an inquiry from Council Member Nygaard, Mr. Heiser confirmed that there will be an annual maintenance fee associated with the program. He further explained that the maintenance costs will be shared with the other agencies in the region. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin, Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-109, accepting Federal Emergency Preparedness grant funds for the Fire Mobile Data Computer (MDC) Program for North San Diego fire agencies. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION: This item is continued from the Council Meeting of January 9, 2007. 13. AB #18.992 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT. Deputy City Engineer Bob Johnson displayed a map of the area where the proposed speed limit would be established. Dwight Johnson, 6327 Chorlito, Carlsbad, requested that the maximum speed limit on El Fuerte Street be 35 miles per hour due to limited site distances at the intersection of Chorlito and El Fuerte Street. Council Member Nygaard commented that the vegetation at the Corner of El Fuerte Street and Chorlito Street obscures the street signage. Robert Lattin, 2848 Cacatua Street, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Mr. Lattin asked why corner site distances and the grade of the road were not taken into consideration when determining the suggested prima facie speed limit. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 4 Mr. Lattin also provided Council with a handout (on file in the Office of the City Clerk) containing the corner site distances and existing stopping site distances for the following intersections on El Fuerte Street: • Rancho Pancho • Chorlito Street • Cacatua Street • Unicornio Street In closing, Mr. Lattin commented that El Fuerte Street still has construction truck traffic and requested that no large trucks be permitted on El Fuerte between the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m. Anne Estes, 2825 Esturion Street, Carlsbad, spoke in support of a 35 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street and the installation of stop signs at the intersections. Robert Woelffer, 6138 Paseo Monona, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Mr. Woelffer suggested that the speed limit on El Fuerte Street be lowered to 35 miles per hour and that stop signs be placed at the intersection of Rancho Pancho and El Fuerte Street. Mr. Woelffer also spoke in support of additional police officers to help enforce traffic regulations. Glenn Bernard, 3520 Avondale Circle, Carlsbad, spoke in support of establishing traffic circles rather than installing stop signs at the intersections. In response to an inquiry from Council Member Packard, Deputy City Engineer Johnson explained that the recommendation of a 45 mile per hour speed limit on Ei Fuerte Street was based on the results of the Engineering and Traffic Survey. He further explained that if the City installs stop signs at some or all of the intersections, a new traffic study would need to be performed and it is possible that a new critical speed would be determined. Based on the critical speed, staff would then recommend a prima facie speed limit. In response to an inquiry from Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, Mr. Johnson explained that a road can have varying speed limits based on the road conditions. He further explained that the posted speed limit could change at an intersection. Council Member Nygaard suggested that the vegetation obstructing the site distance on Chorlito Street be trimmed. City Attorney Ron Ball explained that the City does have the ability to require that the vegetation be trimmed providing the vegetation is in the public right of way. In response to an inquiry from Council Member Packard, Mr. Johnson explained that round- abouts are used in lieu of traffic signals or stop signs. He also confirmed that although the road would need to be re-aligned, there is sufficient room to install round-abouts at the intersections on El Fuerte Street. In response to Mayor Lewis, Mr. Johnson stated that after adoption of a prima facie speed limit, staff would return with an ordinance for stop signs on El Fuerte Street. Mr. Johnson also explained that corner site distance is not a factor in determining if an intersection warrants a stop sign. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 5 Council Member Nygaard confirmed that there are no haul route permits currently issued for El Fuerte Street. Council concurred to have staff return at a later date with an Ordinance for the installation of stop signs at various intersections on El Fuerte Street. Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin confirmed that a new Engineering and Traffic Survey will be performed following the installation of stop signs on El Fuerte Street. Council discussion ensued regarding their support for establishing a 45 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Alga Road to its intersection with Palomar Airport Road. City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, Council introduced ORDINANCE NO. NS-829. amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44, of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by the revision of Section 10.44.220, to establish a Prima Facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Alga Road to its intersection with Palomar Airport Road. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION: 14. AB #18.993 - DKN HOTEL. Council Member Hall recused himself from participating in voting on this item at 7:05 p.m. due to a potential conflict of interest. City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, Council adopted ORDINANCE NO. NS-840. amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a zone change, ZC 05-02, from Multiple- Family Residential (R-3) to Tourist Commercial (C-T) on a .49-acre parcel generally located west of Lincoln Street between Pine Avenue and Oak Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 1. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: Hall. Council Member Hall resumed participation in the Regular Council Meeting of May 8, 2007 at 7:06 p.m. PUBLIC COMMENT: Michele Levy, 3021 Highland Drive, Carlsbad, spoke in support of a Fire Department Master Plan. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 6 Minette Ozaki, 2275 Via Aprilia, Del Mar, came forward to address Council. Ms. Ozaki requested that the City consider purchasing the property owned by the County Airport Authority for recreational trails. Ms. Ozaki explained that the property is currently vacant and not being used for any type of recreation purpose. Ms. Ozaki also provided Council with a map (on file in the Office of the City Clerk) illustrating the subject property boundaries. Glenn Bernard, 3520 Avondale Circle, came forward to address Council. Mr. Bernard spoke about the following issues: • Council Compensation • Council Term Limits • Campaign Signs • City Attorney as an Elected Official In closing, Mr. Bernard stated that he could be reached at 760-729-8462. RECESS: Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 7:15 p.m. Council reconvened at 7:20 p.m., with five members present. DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORT: 15. AB #18.994 -ACCEPTANCE OF BIDS. Senior Civil Engineer Terry Smith and Fire Division Chief Chris Heiser presented the staff report and reviewed a PowerPoint Presentation regarding Fire Station No. 6 (on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Irene Strause, 3291 Highland Drive, Carlsbad, expressed concerns relating to the size of the proposed fire department. She further requested that Council direct staff to design a fire station for the 21st century. Rick Fisher, 1509 Alta Vista Drive, Vista, representing the Carlsbad Fire Fighter's Association, stated that the proposed station would not be large enough. He further explained that the station will not be adequate for equipment storage and training purposes. Mr. Fisher also expressed concerns relating to the location of the proposed fire station. He stated that a fire station should be located centrally in a neighborhood rather than on the periphery. In closing, Mr. Fisher requested that Council delay awarding the bid until the needs of the Fire Department could be discussed at a Council Workshop. Michele Levy, 3021 Highland Drive, Carlsbad, spoke in support of a Fire Department Master Plan. Chief Heiser explained that the proposed fire station is comparable in size to the other stations in the City. In response to an inquiry from Council Member Hall, Fire Chief Crawford explained that although not every emergency vehicle can transport a citizen, every emergency apparatus owned by the City contains the equipment and personnel to respond to emergencies. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 7 Mayor Lewis confirmed with staff that the City currently has three active ambulances and one reserve ambulance. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin, Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2007-110, accepting bids and awarding the contract to Edge Development for the construction of Fire Station No. 6, Project No. 3901. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 16. AB #18.995 - ENDOW CARLSBAD. Finance Manager Dave Barnum presented the staff report and reviewed a PowerPoint Presentation (on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Mr. Barnum gave a brief overview of Endow Carlsbad, stating that the entity is a non-profit organization based in Carlsbad, directed by residents with the mission of "promoting and increasing responsible and effective philanthropy". Mr. Barnum requested that Council consider the following four options: 1. A one-time contribution to Endow Carlsbad from Council Contingency and require a 4 to 1 match. 2. A one-time contribution to Endow Carlsbad from Council Contingency without any matching requirements. 3. Request that Endow Carlsbad apply for Community Activity Grant Funds in the 2007-08 grant process. 4. Decline to provide any funding to Endow Carlsbad at this time. Knox Williams, 3491 Seacrest Drive, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council on behalf of Endow Carlsbad. Mr. Williams stated that he would be happy to answer any questions from Council. Mr. Knox explained that Endow Carlsbad has a Grants Committee in place and that the Grants Committee will consider requests from non-profit organizations or possibly even for-profit organization that have a worthy cause. Council Member Hall suggested that staff return with a report to determine if combining the Carlsbad Community Activities Grant with the Endow Carlsbad program is feasible. Council Member Nygaard suggested that Council form a sub-committee to determine how best to assist Endow Carlsbad and volunteered to serve on the sub-committee.. Council discussion ensued regarding the formation of a sub-committee to determine how best to assist Endow Carlsbad. ACTION: On a motion by Council Member Hall, Council directed staff to return with a report regarding the feasibility of combining the Community Activities Grant program with the Endow Carlsbad program; and, Council concurred to the formation of a sub-committee to determine how best to assist Endow Carlsbad. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Hall, Packard and Nygaard. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. May 8, 2007 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 8 COUNCIL REPORTS AND COMMENTS: Mayor Lewis and Council Members reported on activities and meetings of some committees and sub-committees of which they are members. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS: None. CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS: None. ANNOUNCEMENTS: City Clerk Lorraine Wood announced that Council has been invited and may attend the following upcoming event: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 10:00 a.m. Rancho Carlsbad/McMillin Development Pipe Delivery Photo Event Rancho Carlsbad 5500 El Camino Real Carlsbad, California ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, Mayor Lewis adjourned the Regular Meeting of May 8, 2007 in memory of Bob Richardson at 8:12 p.m. City Clerk Sheila R. Cobian Deputy City Clerk AGENDA ITEM # I b c: Mayor From: <QUEBEKKER@aol.com> CiW MaTaeer To: <Council@[205.142.109.13]> cS Attorney Date: 12/16/2008 9:55 AM SJrfT^ Subject: CITY OF CARLSBAD | CONTACT US completed and posted the "ContactCT^to^gS^nt. THE SUBJECT LINE. Below, please find the information that was submitted- Mayor Lewis and City Council: "•" •. inciusion o, an A,,-Way Stop con.ro, a, ^^^ rc ^ *»- ™downhill direction leading to Rancho Pancho Road 9 6I" Speed recorded in the ^^ *> ^ J.the downhill section of E, Fuerte ^ ^o for a sidewa, on E, Fuerte Road the Corner Sight Distance, which in tSrn limits ^the DeSDLd to T? ! '^ °f tNS retaininQ Wa" limits Section 405 of the Caltrans Highway Design ManuaL9 Ph m9X'mUm aCCOrding to hf C0nfirmed °- -asurement that less maximum 30 mph exists undeT ^^^^^S^n^ ^^^ ° beNeve) that a control is not used at this intersection QhWay Design Manual' IF an Al|-way Stop Hensley 2841 Esturion Street Carlsbad, Ca 92009 QUEBEKKER@aol.com . 73 AOL 8'°; Wind0^ NT 5.1) AGENDA ITEM # / 6> c: Mayor City Council : City Manager From: <home4dwight@gmail.com> CityAttorney To: <Council@[205,142.109.13]> Date: 12/15/2008 4:56 PM Subject: CITY OF CARLSBAD | CONTACT US iSoOk. £>t»J* A visitor to the City of Carlsbad Web site has completed and posted the "Contact Us" form to department, City Council. ***•*-**************************************** FOR SECURITY REASONS, DO NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE. .a.**.*.****************************************** Below, please find the information that was submitted: Regarding item 16 on your Council Meeting agenda on December 16, 2008: A substantial "Calming" effect on vehicular traffic occurred with the inclusion of an All-Way Stop control at the corner intersection of El Fuerte and Chorlito streets. An All-Way Stop control has made the intersection of El Fuerte and Chorlito Streets much safer, and this intersection has now been in operation for over a year now with no accidents. Without Stop controls, traffic studies by the City have shown that the vehicular traffic going across Chorlito Street averaged 53 MPH in both uphill and downhill directions, with a much higher speed recorded in the downhill direction leading to Rancho Pancho Road. Our studies have shown that downhill traffic will often exceed 70 MPH in the downhill section of El Fuerte Road and the All-Way Stop control at the El Fuerte and Chorlito Street intersection has been beneficial from the stand point of "calming" the downhill vehicular traffic, which allows the Rancho Pancho Road intersection to be much safer. A City owned concrete retaining wall was erected about 10 years ago for a sidewalk on El Fuerte Road adjacent to the Southern face of our property; the Easterly edge of this retaining wall limits the Corner Sight Distance, which in turn limits the Design Speed to 30 MPH maximum according to Section 405 the Caltrans Highway Design Manual. The City of Carlsbad Engineering Department (Jim Murray) has confirmed our measurement that less than 330 feet of Corner Sight Distance exists for the corner intersection and he concurs (I believe) that a maximum 30 MPH exists under Section 405.1 of the Caltrans Highway Design Manual, IF an All-Way Stop control is not used at this intersection. Failure to include an All-Way Stop at the El Fuerte-Chorlito Street intersection will cause either an unrealistic speed limit of only 30 MPH to be imposed, or a liability to the City of Carlsbad from the standpoint of ignoring the requirements spelled out by Section 405 of the Caltrans Highway Design Manual in the event of an accident. Thank you! Dwight Johnson, P.E. Dwight Johnson 6327 Chorlito Street Carlsbad, CA 92009 USA home4dwight@gmail.com Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.0.4) Gecko/2008102920 Firefox/3.0.4 99.128.209.46