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Memorandum
May 4, 2015
To: City Council, Interim City Manager, Assistant City Manager, City Attorney,
Assistant City Attorney Mobaldi, Communications Manager, City Planner,
Associate Planner Shannon Wernecke
From: Assistant City Clerk
Re: ADDITIONAL. COMMUNICATION RE: CITY COUNCIL ITEM NO. 11-MAY 5, 2015
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
The attached comments received today by the City Clerk's Office for City Council Item No. 11 for the
May 5, 2015 City Council meeting are summarized as follows:
3 comments in support.
129 comments in opposition.
D~t\JlA~
SHELLEY COLLIJJCMC
City Hall
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive I Carlsbad, CA 92008 I 760-434-2820 I 760-720-9461 fax I www.carlsbadca.gov
Howe &Associates
LAND USE PLANNING AND CONSULTATION
MEMORANDUM
DATE: May 4, 201S
TO: Carlsbad City Clerk
FROM: Mike Howes, AICP
SUBJECT: MCUP 14-r7 Gunther Guns Indoor Shooting Range
RECEIVED
MAY ~ 4 2015
CITY OF CARLSBAD
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
Please provide the attached two documents to the City Council at their briefings prior to the
City Council hearing tomorrow night.
One is a letter from Bill Rowland addressing the lead issue. This letter was a part of the
Planning Commission staff report, but was left out of the Agenda Bill for the City Council.
The second is testimony that was provided at the Planning Commission hearing from one of the
speakers, but was not included in the Planning Commission minutes.
cc Don Neu
Attachments
2888loker Avenue East. Suite 217, Carlsbad, CA 92010 www.hwpianning.com 760.929.2288
February 13th, 2015
Carlsbad Planning Commission
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92008
RE: MCUP 14-17-Gunther's Guns Shooting Range
Dear Members of the Carlsbad Planning Commission
RECEiVED
MAY -4 2015
CITY OF CARLSBAD
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
My name is William Rowland!. I am writing to you to point out what I believe are some misconceptions
provided to you by City Planning Staff in their report recommendingthat you deny the appeal by Lisa
Gunther regarding MCUP-14-17.
While I cannot address the issues of zoning I do have specific expertise in the area of sh10oting range
design, development and operations including issues of maintenance and lead management. My
professional background is as a Law Enforcement officer. I served 28 years with the Carlsbad Police
Department and retired as a Captain in late 2013. During my career I served as a fiream1s instructor,
department armorer, firearms training supervisor and weapons training unit manager. I have been Cl
member ef the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the National Association of Shooting
Ranges (NASR) and completed the National Rifle Association's range development training course. I
served as the principle police~ member of the City team that developed, designed and constructed the
City of Carlsbad's state of the art Public Safety Training Center. (STC)
When we set out to develop an indoor training facility with live fire shooting ranges om~ of the major
considerations was how to maintain a safe and healthy environment for our training staff and officers.
Lead exposure is one of a nUJmber of health and safety issues for those who work regularly with firearms
especially in an enclosed range. What we found is that with careful design and effectiVE! operations
policies, maintenance routines and cleaning practices we could effectively mitigate the problems caused
by airborne lead and other £:ontaminants. With these BMPs in place we have run the (SCT) for over two
years and 10s of thousands of rounds fired with no environmental or health related prCiblems. This has
been verified by independent environmental testing and regular employee health moniitoring. These
practices are not difficult to implement or maintain and are consistent for all shooting facilities either
publicly or privately owned. I am familiar with the conceptual plans for the Gunther's facility and know
that they are well aware of these issues and have the same level of commitment to the health and
welfare of their future customers as we have for our City employees.
I would like to draw your attention to Attachments #9 and #12. Both of these documents explain the
appropriate design, construction am;l subsequent maintenance practices that support the development
and operation of a safe indo>or shooting range. Attachment #9 lead Management and OSHA Compliance
for Indoor Shooting Ranges, produced by NSSF, is an updated version of one of the documents I used
when planning the design and operation of the shooting ranges at the carlsbad SCT.
Attachment #8 produced by the Centers for Disease Control focuses primarily on a limited number (by
comparison with the number of recreational shooters nationwide) of lead exposure cases. It appears
that most of those that they cited from shooting facilities were not maintained to proper standards.
Attachment #11 an article from the Seattle Times appears to be reporting with a particular bias. They
appear to have focused on some tragic but exceptional case studies to make a dramatic point. These
stories from poorly designed or maintained facilities should have no bearing on the application before
you. Staff has presented no evidence that the Gunther's intend to build a facility and then not properly
maintain it. That would definitely not be in their best interest as community members <lr as a business
entity which depends on satisfied customers for their livelihood.
Attachment #10 "Poisonous; Pastime, The Health Risks of Shooting Ranges and Lead to Children, Families
and the Environment" I found the opening paragraphs of the document alluding to a link between lead
exposure at shooting ranges, to "violent criminal activity" or "spree shooting'' off putting. Ingesting lead
is definitely hazardous and c:an have detrimental health impacts but historically, children with high lead
levels have been linked to le!ad tainted paint and other domestic sources of contamination. As with the
other articles the reference to outdoor ranges and lead management has no bearing on the indoor
project up for your consideration.
While dramatic stories of contamination may be compelling they are certainly not the norm.
Unfortunately in this case I think it may also be overstated. I have been a recreational shooter since I
was 16 and have spent mom time on ranges both indoor and outdoor than most gun owners or casual
shooters ever will. I have taught shooting skills and safe firearms handling to youth camp attendees and
police officers alike and I have never experienced any ill effects from these activities. As a law
enforcement officer, where firearms are an unavoidable part of daily life, I chose to tea1ch my own
children gun safety and let them shoot when they were old enough to understand the safety concepts.
As pre-teens they often aco:>mpanied me to the City's old outdoor range and even helped in picking up
brass and cleaning up. This was well before we adopted updated range maintenance equipment and
clean-up consisted of regular soap and water. My son is now a High School teacher and my daughter is a
PhD candidate conducting cancer research at a prominent University.
In conclusion, while managing lead exposure is an important consideration in the operation of an indoor
shooting range, current ran1ge designs, proper air and material handling equipment and effective
maintenance practices make it an easily managed. Based on my professional training <md experience I
believe that using the lead issue as a pretense for recommending denial of the Gunthe1r's MCUP request
would be improper and unsupported by the evidence presented to you. I regret that I am not able to
address you directly due to scheduling issues. I encourage you to visit the Carlsbad SafE~ty Training
Center if you would like to see first-hand how cleanly and efficiently a well-designed and well
maintained indoor shooting range can be managed.
Sincerely,
William Rowland
The issue before us this ~evening is the definition of "Recreational" and "Recreational
Shooting". I have selected a number of unbiased sources that define "Recreational"
and "Recreational Shooting" to help us with the core issue of this evening's
consideration. Webster's Colligate Dictionary defines "Recreational" as an adjective of
recreation which is defined as, "to create anew, restore, refresh, refreshme~nt of strength
and sprits after work, a means of refreshment or diversion, hobby. Wikitravel states that
Recreational shooting catn refer to several activities including hunting, participating in
shooting competitions, or using firearms as a hobby. San Bernardino County publishes
a map showing "Recreational Shooting and Hunting Areas"
USDOJ, National Institute of Justice, in the", introductory paragraph of "Guns in
America National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms states, "The nearly
200 million guns in private hands are used in part for recreation, mostly hunting and
target shooting." '~"'~~_c:,~:_;_;_.:__:_--"-'-""-'-"L:O-"-'-'"-"'"-"-'-'-'--"~.=-=--=--=--'--'-'"'-''.;c_;'-c-'
In determining the local use of facilities for "Recreational Shooting" consid4~r the
following:
1. is shooting as
the "Recreational Outdoor Range. Of course zoning and planning
regulations are not applicable on Camp Pendleton.
2. Poway Weapons & Gear's indoor range has 42,000+ square feet, 42 lanes and
three separate ranges -25, 50 and 100 yards it is the third largest indoor gun
range in the nation. This range is located at 13550 Danielson Stree~t. Poway, 25
miles from the proposed Gunther's Gun Shooting Range.
& shooting range is on
unanimously approved by the Poway City Council in February 2012,.
3. Sights' is a smaller range with 24lanes and has 2
separate ranges ·-15 and 25 yards. This range is located at 618 Airport Rd.
Oceanside, 10 miles from the proposed Gunther's Gun Shooting Range the
4. Center is a small range with 14 twenty-five yard
lanes. This rangE~ is located at 5590 Ruffin Rd, San Diego, 26 miles from the
proposed Gunthe~rs Gun Shooting Range the property is zoned IL-:2-1 vvhich
allows recreation facilities.
5. Diego's indoor range is a small range with 13 twenty-five
yard lanes. This r~nge is located at 7853 Balboa Ave, San Diego, :26 miles from
the proposed Gunther's Gun Shooting Range the property is zoned IL-3-1 which
allows rc:.r•rc.,;nu"'t
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6. San indoor range is a small range with 10
twenty-five yard lanes. This range is located at 12150 Flint PI, Poway, 25 miles
from the proposed Gunther's Gun Shooting Range the is
allows recreation facilities
7. P2K Range's indoor range is a larger facility with 11 twenty-five yard, 2 fifty yard
and 7 one-hundred yard lanes. This range is located at 2082 Willow Glen Drive,
El Cajon, 40 miles from the proposed Gunther's Gun Shooting Range the
property has a land use designation A72 and a zoning of SR-4, semi-rural
residential.which allows participant sports and recreation.
All of these ranges have a sophisticated purging filtered ventilation system for cleaner
air for the shooter and surrounding properties that effectively surpass all NIOSH, NRA,
and OSHA air quality standards.
The old saw, "Comparisons are odious", may seem to apply here. Howevelr the point of
examining other agency zoning regulations as they apply to this case is that for every
indoor shooting range in the cities located in San Diego County and San Diego County
has been approved and iis located within a planning zone that allows shooting ranges to
be included under the designation of "Recreational Uses". For the planner to determine
that recreational use does not include an indoor shooting range is arbitrary and
capricious.
Firearms and Lead Contamination Safety
1. Data sources including the National Center for Health StatisticS, the National
Safety Council, the Bureau of the Census, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives, and firearms industry reports, the 2009 Fact Sheet on
Firearms Accidents proves that despite a doubling of our country's population
since 1930, and a quintupling in the number of privately owned firea1rms, the
annual number of accidental firearms deaths has decreased 75%. In fact, the
fatal firearm accident rate has decreased 92% since the all-time high recorded in
1904. Nationwide, the annual number of fatal firearm accidents among children
has decreased 86% since 1975.
2. Comparisons to Other Sports -The National Safety Council's Injury Facts 2008
Edition, as well as the International Hunter Education Association, the fact sheet
reveals that only 2 people per 100,000 are injured while enjoying the sport of
hunting, compared to 2,585 who are injured while playing football, 1',984
basketball players, 1,349 bicycle riders, 1,332 soccer players, 1 ,29fi
skateboarders and 1,122 baseball players (all per 100,000).
Morgen Fry
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J<:1nis Musante <Janismus@aol.com>
Friday, May 01, 2015 10:55 AM
Council Internet Email
Shooting range
I fail to see any justification whatsoever for you to reverse the Permit Office and allow a shooting range. We are a
community of young families. Why would we need a shooting range? Why would this Council do anything to encourage
the use of guns? Please reject the appeal.
Thank you.
Janis Musante
7127 Tanager Drive
Carlsbad 92011
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Sherry Freisinger
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City Clerk
FW: Proposed Gun Range
From: Art Ferber [mailto:artferber@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 11:04 Al\11
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: Proposed Gun Range
Dear Council Members,
We are NOT in support of a recreational shooting range in Carlsbad. It sets a negative tone for our Carlsbad community
and strongly urge the City Council to reject this business permit.
Art & Eileen Ferber
6746 Barberry Pl.
Carlsbad
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Sherry Freisinger
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FW: Indoor shooting range
From: Susan Marsteller [mailto:susan.marsteller@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:58PM
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: Indoor shooting range
Dear council,
As a long time resident, mother, and grandmother, I would like to express, that I am strongly opposed to having
an indoor shooting range as a part of Carlsbad. I feel this will bring safety concerns we don't want, or need.
These would include air quality, noise and use of lead, which is a hazardous material. There is already a range
in Oceanside. I live in Poinsettia Cove and not one neighbor I have spoken to, wants this here.
A concerned resident,
Susan Marsteller
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Sherry Freisinger
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FW: 126 signers: Say "NO" to Shooting Range in Carlsbad petition
From: Narima Lopes [mailto:petitions@moveon.org]
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 1:37AM
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: 126 signers: Say "NO" to Shooting Range in Carlsbad petition
Dear Carlsbad City Council,
I started a petition to you titled &!y"NO" to Shooting Range in Carlsbad. So far, the petition has 126 total
signers.
You can post a response for us to pass along to all petition signers by clicking here:
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"Stop the proposed shooting range in Carlsbad"
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Dear Carlsbad City Council,
We are pleased to present you with this petition affirming this statement:
"Stop the proposed shooting range in Carlsbad"
Attached is a list of individuals who have added their names to this petition, as well as additional comments
written by the petition signers themselves.
Sincerely,
N arima Lopes
MoveOn.org 1
Cherise Lopes-Baker
Encinitas, CA 92024
May 2, 2015
Allie rubey
Carlsbad, CA 92009
May 1, 2015
Carl Sawyer
Del Mar, CA 92014
May 1, 2015
Put it indoors if you have to have a shooting range. Do not support gun use.
Janis Musante
Carlsbad, CA 92011
May 1, 2015
Niru
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30, 2015
Manish Adhiya
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
I am extremely against a shooting range being in Carlsbad's Industrial Park or ANYWHJERE IN CARLSBAD
FOR THAT MATTER!!!!!!!
Jean Stringer
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Seema
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Jamie Zamoff
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Please no shooting range in Carlsbad
Jayshree
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
MoveOn.org 2
Tara J Guinn Clark
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Courtney Savage
carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr30,2015
How soon we forget. The shooting at Kelly does not need to be repeated. Protect our schools, our children and
our community. No! No! No!Please No Shooting Range in Carlsbad.
Kelly Bandemer
Carlsbad, CA 92018
Apr30,2015
susan baldner
carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr30, 2015
carlos Dinamarca
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30, 2015
William Fowler
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 30,2015
I have been a resident for almost 18 years .. I DO NOT want a shooting range in my city :md will pay CLOSE
ATTENTION as to how my city council members vote!
Ann Madison
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 30,2015
Anastasia Rose
Del Mar, CA 92014
Apr30, 2015
James Krupiarz
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr30,2015
No to the shooting range. The planning commission is right on this one.
Victoria Syage
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 30,2015
MoveOn.org 3
Remember Kelley School Shootings-please don't support guns!
Elizabeth Cooke
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
STOP THIS NONSENSE OF TAKING A WAY LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE-WE NEED A PEACE
FLAG IN EVERY CORNER OF THIS PLANET OF OURS AND LIVE HAPPY!!!
Julia Noronha Rodrigues
Signal Hill, CA 90755
Apr30, 2015
Althea Nixon
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
David Walker
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Marla Gunasegaram
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30,2015
Definitely No to Shooting Range in Carlsbad
Chiaying Lin
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Diana ecker
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 30,2015
Staci renert
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
We do not need this in Carlsbad!!
Eli Dinamarca
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
MoveOn.org 4
Bad idea to promote ranges in our community when they are not zoned. I support the right to own guns and
ironsides is close enough. Why not zone the area for stip clubs while you are at it?
Michael Clarke
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Christina Zamoff
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Sharldne White
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr 30,2015
It is time to learn from the lessons of gun violence. Please do not put our children in harms way.
Roma
Elgin, SC 29229
Apr 30,2015
Teresa Mundy
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
vera shadi
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr29, 2015
susan locker
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 29, 2015
Kasha cohen
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
Skye O'Grady
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr29, 2015
Why do we need more violence ??this is encouraging others to shoot ?? If YOU really want something in
CARLSBAD then please come with some sensitive proposal !NO SHOTTING range PLEASE ! !
Pragna Mehta
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr 29,2015
MoveOn.org 5
Lena Paredes
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
Sherry Barbes
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 29,2015
Kara Lani
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr29, 2015
Brenda Parker
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
"NO" to Shooting Range in Carlsbad.
Suresh Mehta
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
JoannKocyk
San Marcos, CA 92078
Apr 28,2015
Kelly Brannigan
Oceanside, CA 92058
Apr28, 2015
No shooting range in Car1sbad,please
Lata Kumar
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
Niravdesai7 @hotmail.com
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
No to shooting range
Nirav desai
Calsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
MoveOn.org 6
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We do not want nor need a shooting range in carlsbad. Seem negligent to allow one near schools. Oceanside
has a range15 minutes away, that should be sufficient for anyone who feels a need to shoot a gun.
Bob andrews
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
Sasha Andrews
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
Definitely not. Not in mt backyard.
sudesh kumar
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
Sukumar Shah
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Larry Wampler
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28,2015
J amels I soda
Vista, CA 92081
Apr28, 2015
Rural areas are a better choice for shooting ranges should there be any. Keep shooting ranges away from
family oriented communities and city environments.
Vicky Jans
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr 28, 2015 ·
Sharon McFalls
El Cajon, CA 92021
Apr28, 2015
we do not need a shooting range in our community
Mary Borevitz
San Marcos, CA 92069-9715
Apr 28,2015
Jennifer Batra
Carlsbad, CA 92009
MoveOn.org 7
Apr28, 2015
Toni Rondinelli
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr28, 2015
Victoria Binkerd
Santee, CA 92071
Apr28, 2015
This is not the kind of activity I want to see in Carlsbad as a resident. I am sure there are other places in the
County shooters can go.
Carrie Bedard
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 28,2015
Sara Ohara
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr28, 2015
PUT THE GUN SHOP PUT OF BUSINESS> NO NO NO NO GUNS lllll
Jody Hood
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
No to the shooting range in Carlsbad!
Susan Sears
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
I am against guns. We do not want this range near us.
SonalShah
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 28,2015
I don't think we need to promote gun use in any form, but especially not as a form of recreation. There are so
many other recreational activities available. And to have such a shop anywhere near a school? That just
screams trouble. I am against it.
Erin Newton
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Christine Hamparyan
Carlsbad, CA 92009
MoveOn.org 8
Apr 28,2015
Ursula Centers
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
Heather W agy
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr27, 2015
jim rondinelli
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr27, 2015
Aisha ayazi
sedona, AZ 86336
Apr 27,2015
Jonathan Y orck
eugene, OR 97405
Apr 27, 2015
Elizabeth wilkinson
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr 27, 2015
Janet
Eugene, OR 97405
Apr27, 2015
Cheri McClaughry
rocklin, CA 95765
Apr27, 2015
Najoo Panthaky
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 27,2015
Simona Hellinger
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 27,2015
Jeff Ringel
Hillsborough, NJ 08844
Apr27, 2015
Victoria Davis
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr 27,2015
MoveOn.org 9
Julie Pynes
San Diego, CA 92Jl30
Apr27, 2015
Seth Venezia
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Charles Dodson
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr27, 2015
LoraZaroff
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
What I feel is that a shooting range is better than people sighting in their guns in the open or practicing
shooting in the open but I support the people of Carlsbad that do not want anything like this in their City.
What I think is much more important than this is Background Checks!!! That is what we should be pushing
for is Background checks just like Oregon is,
Sheila Kadah
Oceanside, CA 92057
Apr 27, 2015
Elyse Matson
Carlsbad, CA 92009 ·
Apr 27, 2015
Allison Borts
Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067
Apr27, 2015
Outrageous idea to have guns anywhere near schools.
Judith Birnberg
Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
Apr 27,2015
Patricia Hansen
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27, 2015
Samuel McKee
Long Branch, NJ 07740
Apr 27,2015
MoveOn.org 10
Eileen Miller
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
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We do not need a gun range in Carlsbad, we need more OPEN SPACE and less development!
AmandaM.
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr27, 2015
K~lly McMahon
Santa Rosa, CA 95409
Apr 27,2015
I work in Carlsbad, I can't imagine a need for a shooting range, there are too many gun incidents now in our
country!
wendy hall
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr 27, 2015
I do not want a shooting range in my town
Nasrin Weigley
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
Gwen Lauren Meitchik
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 27,2015
Jill Transki
Santa Barbara, CA 93108
Apr 27,2015
Lynda
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 27,2015
absolutely opposed to a gun range in my back yard!
Gloria Merriam
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
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Bad idea to have a shooting range close to schools. Every parent should be concerned and vote "NO"
Rohinton & Najoo Panthaky
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 27,2015
Nita
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27, 2015
Ceseley Nicholson
Santa Rosa, CA 95405
Apr 27,2015
Susan cutri
Cardiff, CA 92006
Apr 27,2015
Tricia
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 27,2015
Michele
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Sophie
Houston, TX 77005
Apr27, 2015
My son goes to Pacific Ridge School and the last thing I want to worry about is a gun range walking distance
from his school! No!
Erin Hawk
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr 27, 2015
Barbara White
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 27,2015
Y az F Bilimoria
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr 27,2015
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It's a STUPID idea and one that should be rejected for all the obvious reasons. NO to a shooting range!!
Manek Dustoor
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Keep our kids safe!
Beatrice Shushan
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27, 2015
NO to shooting range
vani
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr27, 2015
Barbara Mead
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr26, 2015
olga
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 26, 2015
I'm shocked and surprised that in such a heavily populated area we are trying to get a gun range. I know that
gun ranges are used by the 99.99% responsible persons-but it really is the 0.01% we have to worry about-
Risk= probability of happening* consequence. With the constant litany of people having access to guns-who
should have not had-inflicting harm on the local public-it's inconceivable you would be taking this risk. Have
the gun owner take personal responsibility for everyone who picks up a gun on his/her range-I'm willing to
bet they will not. That says it all.
David Baker
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 26,2015
Pacific Ridge School (Private 7-12) is located i or 2 miles from the proposed shooting range which must
NOT be allowed.
nancy k.lee
carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr 26,2015
We do Not need a gun store or a shooting range in Carlsbad. Please DO NOT approve this!!!!! I'm very
concerned for our city and the nearby neighborhoods.
Lynn Selzer
MoveOn.org 13
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr 26, 2015
Aliza Lopes-Baker
Carlsbad, CA 92021
Apr26, 2015
Aura christian
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr 26,2015
Randy Norris
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr26, 2015
Robin Friedheim
Carlsbadc, CA 92011-4027
Apr26, 2015
arlene drucker
San Diego, CA 92110-1247
Apr 26, 2015
We want our children safe from guns
Patricia McFarlane
Oceanside, CA 02057
Apr26, 2015
I certainly hope the city fathers have enough concern for saftety of all, especially our small citizens. WE not
need more guns or facilities that encourage shooting, in the city
K TBOSE
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr26, 2015
N arima Lopes
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr 26,2015
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Steve Gideon <stevegideon@me.com >
Friday, May 01, 2015 1:47 PM
City Clerk
Recreational shooting range
I've been made aware that Gunthers is attempting to get approval to open a shooting range in Carl:sbad. This would be
very beneficial to me and my family, and I urge you to please approve this range. It would allow us all to enjoy our sport,
while staying in our home city. I would much rather have my hard earned money going to the City of Carlsbad rather
than another city.
Thank you for your ear,
Regards,
Steve Gideon
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Subject: Gunther Guns recreational shooting range
Sir or Madame,
I am writing to you in regard to the Gunther Guns recreational shooting range that has been voted on by
the Carlsbad Planning Commission. As a local, responsible, father and businessman, I fully support the
need for a local shooting range in Carlsbad. I do not understand why the local officials are so against a
local business trying to meet the needs of local gun owners. A gun range is a necessity for responsible
gun owners. A place we can safely teach and practice our sport, would be a great addition to carlsbad.
1 feel that the local officials, specifically, city planner Don Neu, is abusing his power and casting his own
political views and opinions on me and my family and friends. Shooting is a recreational sport, enjoyed
by 40 million Americans. Carlsbad residents deserve the right to enjoy our sport in our town.
Additionally, it will help the community through increased revenue, not just for Gunther but other local
businesses as well.
I fully support the addition of a Gun Range at 2717 Loker Avenue West in Carlsbad. Carlsbad has already
approved and operates a shooting range for its city employees (Carlsbad Police). The citizens deserve
this right and ability as well.
Respectfully,
Zac Kalemba
Zac Kalemba
1808 Aston Ave
Carlsbad, CA 92008
760.814.3952
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Sherry Freisinger
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23 56 Adler Creek Lane
Fallbrook, CA 92028
May 4, 2015
Carlsbad City Council
1635 Faraday Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Council Members:
Jeff Lucia <jeff.lucia@gmail.com >
Monday, May 04, 2015 3:58 PM
City Clerk
FOR COUNCIL: Letter regarding proposed recreational shooting range in Carlsbad
It is my understanding that a Carlsbad city planner has asserted that the proposed recreational shooting range to
be located at 2717 Loker Avenue West, Suite B, is not a permitted or conditionally permitted use, nor is it
similar to permitted or conditionally permitted uses, including the category of recreational facilities. I further
understand that the Planning Commission, in a tie vote, upheld the planner's finding after being asked to vote
only on whether the planner had abused his position in making this determination.
In fairness to residents and the business owners who applied for the permit, I urge you to reconsider the issue on
its own merits. Whether the planner abused his power or erred unintentionally is, at this piJint, an employment
matter. The issue at hand is, and ought to be, the accuracy of the planner's determination, not his intent.
I ask you to consider the following points:
1. Recreational shooting is a recreational activity.
The permit denial was based largely or wholly on the premise that the proposed recreational shooting range
would not constitute recreational use. Recreational shooting at target ranges is unquestionably a
recreational activity, widely recognized by many official public agen'cies. Examples include:
• U.S. Department ofthe Interior's Bureau of Land Management
(http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/prog/recreationlhunting.html)
• U.S. Census Bureau and U..S. Fish and Wildlife Service's National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and
Wildlife-Associated Recreation (https ://www. census. gov /prod/20 12pubs/fh w 11-nat. pdf) .
• U.S. Department of Agriculture/U.S. Forest Service
(http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/sbnf/recreation/otheractivities/?recid=26225&actid=l06)
• United States Marine Corps
(http :1/www. pendleton.marines.mil/PendletonN ews/N ewsArticleDisplay/tabid/5440/ Article/53 7946/recr
eational-shooting-tournament-for-the-cgs-cup. aspx)
• State of California (http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page id=25642)
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-... and countless others. A recreational shooting park operated by a city was even recognized with a
Program Excellence Award for Citizen Involvement (populations 50,000 and greater) nomination by the
International City Management Association. (http://webapps.icma.org/pm/images/awardsbooklet.pdf)
2. Denying the permit would be a particular disservice to Carlsbad women.
• Considering that women represent the fastest growing segment of recreational shooters
(http://www. utsandiego.com/news/20 15/jan/21/shot-show-women-
shooters/, http://www. bizj oumals.com/ stlouislbizwomen/news/ out-of-the-office/20 14/04/i -am-the-gun-
industry-s-fastest-growing-eustomer.html?page=all) there is clearly a need to have a safe, modem
facility to engage in recreational shooting close to where they live.
• It is absolutely in the interest of public safety to have firearms owners, particularly new recreational
shooters, be able to learn firearms safety and to become proficient and safe in handling their firearms.
• Women deserve to have the opportunity to practice their firearms skills and learn firearms safety for the
purpose of lawful self-defense.
• Carlsbad has already suffered a high-profile tragedy in the kidnapping and murder· of one of its
residents, Kathleen Scharbarth, who in November 2011 was kidnapped from her home on Via Puerta in
Carlsbad, taken to a remote area, and strangled. This tragedy likely spurred women in Carlsbad to go
through the legal steps to buy firearms for their own defense against similar attacks, and they deserve
and need a place to practice safe firearm handling.
• Carlsbad has the highest percentage of female residents in the entire North County. It's higher than
Vista, Oceanside, San Marcos, Escondido, Encinitas, Poway, San Diego (city)'and the county as a
whole. (Source: http://guickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/0611194.html)
Refusing to permit the range would be doing a disservice to women in Carlsbad and the surrounding area.
3. The proposed recreational range has received remarkably strong support from the public.
As a local business owner, I would welcome a recreational target shooting range, such as the recreational range
proposed by Lisa Gunther, to Carlsbad. It would provide me and my family, as well as visiting clients from out
of town, the opportunity to engage in target practice and/or competition in a safe, enjoyable environment
consistent with the upscale nature of Carlsbad. I have spoken with many other people who share this view, and
hundreds of residents attended the Planning Commission meeting in February to show their support for the
proposed range-an unprecedented turnout.
I urge you to correct the city staff member's error, and reverse the Planning Commission's subsequent action,
without further delay.
Respectfully,
[SIGNED]
Jeff Lucia
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April 7, 2015
Carlsbad City Staff
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1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad, Ca 92008
Re: Bad behavior.by supporters
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FROM THE DESK OF
GREGG GUNTHER
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Dear Mr. Mayor· Council members· Planning commissioners and city staff,
It has been brought to our attention by Ms. Leslie Devaney esq. that individuals have been contacting
city hall with less than respectful messages including name calling and calls for resignatiion of city staff.
Lisa and I do not condon'3 such activities and we have not directed anyone to do such things. We
sincerely apologize for the behavior of these individuals.
We will post a message on our website within the next week urging folks who are following this matter
to use better judgement i9nd stay focused on the issues and respect the process.
It is not our intention for <myone at city hall to be called inappropriate names or have th1;ir jobs
threatened. Although there may be disagreements, we firmly believe that Mayor Hall, the "city council,
the planning commissioners and city staff all have one thing in common ... They have Carlsbad's best
interests in mind.
Sincerely yours,
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Gregg Gunther 32°
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2717 LOKER AVE WEST, CARLSBAD CA (760) 444·1100
CITY OF CELIA A. BREWER
CITY ATTORNEY
JANE MOBALDl
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
CARLSBAD
April 6. 2015
Leslie E. Devaney
Stutz Artiano Shin off & Holtz
2488 Historic Decatur Rd., Suite 200
San Diego, CA 92106
Re: Gunther Guns Appeal
Dear Leslie,
PAUL G. EDMONSON
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
RONALD KEMP
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
Your clients' City Council appeal hearing has now been scheduled for May 5,
2015. I appreciate you taking the time last week to discuss your clients' appeal. As we
discussed, our code does ~ot provide a way for staff to directly consider a conditional
use permit at this juncture. Further, you confirmed that your client does not wish to
return to the Planning Commission for further consideration of the City Planner's
determination that their proposed shooting range is not substantially similar to an
allowed use within the P-·M zone.
Thank you for also understanding that the language of Carlsbad Municipal Code
section 2.24.070, which states that in the event of an unbroken tie vote "the matter
shall be deemed denied,'' applies to the appeal, not the resolution. Therefore, the
affirmative Commission vote on the resolution to deny the appeal and upholld the
determination of the City Planner did not equate to a denial of Resolution No. 7087,
which clearly passed as evidenced by the tape of the meeting and the discussion prior to
the vote.
Therefore, at the appeal hearing the only issue before the City Council will be
whether there was an error or an abuse of discretion on the part of the Planning
Commission in upholding the City Planner's determination {CMC 21.54.150{b).} No new
evidence will be considered at the City Council hearing (CMC 21.54.140{c).) The burden
of proof is on the appellant to show that there was not substantial evidence to support
the Commission's determination that a shooting range is not a use which falls within the
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intent and purpose ofthe P-M zone and which is substantially similar to a specified
permitted use (CMC 21.S4.140(b).)
Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns. If not, I will
be instructing the Council as I've outlined above and I look forward to seeing you at the
meeting.
Very truly yours
Celia A. Brewer
CITY ATIORNEY
Memorandum
May 5, 2015
{City of
Carlsbad
To: City Council, Interim City Manager, Assistant City Manager, City Attorney,
Assistant City Attorney Mobaldi, Communications Manager, City Planner,
Associate Pl<mner Shannon Wernecke
From: Assistant City Clerk
Re: ADDITIONAL. COMMUNICATION RE: CITY COUNCIL ITEM NO. 11-MAY 5, 2015
CITY COUNCIIL MEETING
The attached comments received today by the City Clerk's Office for City Council Item No. 11
for the May 5, 2015 city council meeting are summarized as follows:
186 Comments in support of the City Manager's recommendation denying Gunther Guns'
shooting range appeal
3 Comments in opposition to the City Manager's recommendation denying Gunther Guns'
shooting range appeal
Department Name (use "&" not "and")
Division Name or Location 1200 Carlsbad Village Drive I Carlsbad, CA 92008 I 760-434-2820 t
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Michael Brenner <mbb_1000@yahoo.com>
Tuesday, May 05, 2015 10:01 AM
City Clerk
Melanie Kuderka; Jay Kuderka; Cyndi Reed; Shelly Potwardowski; Skip Reed; Tab &
Orlen; Megan Foster; Robert Aboolian; Lori Brophy Kartsub; Rina Brenner
Opposition to gun range on Loker Avenue
Dear City of Carlsbad Clerk,
Please add my name to the petition by Narima Lopes opposing the gun range
on Loker Avenue. If this is not possible, please add this e-mail to the
record for the City Council to consider when this topic comes before them
today. I OPPOSE the gun range because it is a public safety hazard for
the following reasons:
l. increased levels of lead contaminants
2. increased levels of suicides and violent confrontations that have
happened at gun ranges
3. increased levels of contraband gun sales occurring at gun ranges
including transactions by gang members
I ask the City Council to simply agree with the Planning Commission
decision and vote NO on this agenda item. Thank you for your
consideration.
Sincerely,
Mike Brenner
2775 Palmetto Drive
Carlsbad
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Donna Heraty
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Subject: FW: Call against the shooting range
From: Kira Linberg
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To: Help
Subject: Call against the shooting range
Rita Brenner called to say she is against the shooting range.
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Donna Heraty
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Subject: FW: Gunther Guns
From: Bruce Bandemer [mailto:BruceB@bandemercpa.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:00 PM
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: Gunther Guns
Dear Council;
I do not support putting a gun range in the Carlsbad business park The city should develop a zoning criteria, just like it
does for any type of business, and determine if there is a place for this type of business in our city. You need to be
sensitive to location, business type nearby, proximity to residential locations, etc
Please do not support the gun range at that location.
Bruce Bandemer
Bruce H. Bandemer, CPA PFS
Bandemer Accountancy Corporation
2720 Jefferson Street
Carlsbad, CA 92008
760-434-1522 ext 100
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Dear Matt Hall, Mayor and Carlsbad City Council,
We are pleased to present you with this petition affirming this statement:
"Stop the proposed shooting range in Carlsbad"
Attached is a list of individuals who have added their names to this petition, as well as additional comments
written by the petition signers themselves.
Sincerely,
Narima Lopes
MoveOn.org 1
Stormy
Carlsbad, CA 92009
May4,2015
Harry Tracy
Encinitas, CA 92024
May4, 2015
Dianne Sterling
Encinitas, CA 92024
May4, 2015
Jignesh
Carlsbad, CA 92011
May4, 2015
Too close to our school!! l
lindachoi
carlsbad, CA 92009
May4, 2015
We want a world-class city, not a city allowing weapons to be fired near their public schools. What an
outrage!
Phi1Rogl11
Carlsbad, CA 92011
May3"2015
Ma:ryMeyers
Carlsbad, CA 92009
May2,2015
Sudha and Santosh bansal
Carlsbad, CA 92009
May 2, 2015
Cherise Lopes-Baker
Encinitas, CA 92024
May2, 2015
Allierubey
Carlsbad, CA 92009
May I, 2015
Carl Sawyer
Del Mar, CA 92014
May I, 2015
MoveOn.org 2
Put it indoors if you have to have a shooting range. Do not support gun use.
Janis Musante
Carlsbad, CA 92011
May l, 2015
Niru
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Manish Adhiya
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
I am extremely against a shooting range being in Carlsbad's Industrial Park or ANYWHERE IN CARLSBAD
FOR THAT MA TIER1l!!!!!
Jean Stringer
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Seema
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 30,2015
Jamie Zamoff
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Please no shooting range in Carlsbad
Jayshree
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Tara J Guinn Clark
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Courtney Savage
carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr30, 2015
How soon we forget. The shooting at Kelly does not need to be repeated. Protect our schools, our children and
our community. No! No! No!Please No Shooting Range in Carlsbad.
Kelly Bandemer
Carlsbad, CA 92018
MoveO:n.org , .
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Apr30, 2015
susan baldner
·carlsbad, CA 920Jll
Apr30, 2015
carlos Dinamarca
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
William Fowler
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr30,2015
I have been a resident for almost 18 yeats .. I DO NOT want a shooting range in my city and will pay CLOSE
ATfENTION as to how my city council members vote!
Ann Madison
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr30, 2015
Anastasia Rose
Del Mar, CA 92014
Apr30,2015
James Krupiarz
Carlsbad; CA 92011
Apr3Q, 2015
No to the shooting range. The planning commission is right on this one.
Victoria Syage
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr30, 2015
Remember Kelley School Shootings-please don't support guns!
Elizabeth Cooke
Carlsbad~ CA 92009
Apr 30.2015
STOP THIS NONSENSE OF TAKING AWAY LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE-WE NEED A PEACE
FLAG IN EVERY CORNER OF THIS PLANET OF OURS AND LIVE HAPPY!!!
Julia Noronha Rodrigues
Signal Hill, CA 90755
Apr30, 2015
MoveOn.org 4
Althea Nixon
Carlsbad. CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
David Walker
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Marla Gunasegaram
Carlsbad. CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Definitely No to Shooting Range in Carlsbad
Chiaying Lin
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30,2015
Diana ecker
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr30,2015
Staci renert
Carlsbad. CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
We do not need this in Carlsbad!!
Eli Dinamarca
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Bad idea to promote ranges in our community when they are not zoned. I support the right to own guns and
ironsides is dose enough .. Why not zone the area for stip clubs while you are at it?
Michael Clarke
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr30, 2015
Christina Zamoff
Carlsbad. CA 92009
Apr30,2015
Sharlene White
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr30, 2015
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It is time to learn from the lessons of gun violence. Please do not put our children in harms way.
Roma
Elgin, SC 29229
Apr30,2015
Teresa Mundy
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
verashadi
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr29; 2015
susan locker
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr29, 2015
Kashacohen
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
Skye O'Grady
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr29, 2015
Why do we need more violence '??this is encouraging others to shoot ?? If YOU really want something in
CARLSBAD then please come with some sensitive proposal !NO SHOTI'ING range PLEAS.E ! !
Pragna Mehta
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr 29, 2{)15
Lena Paredes
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
Sherry Barbes
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr29. 2015
K.araLani
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr29, 2015
Brenda Parker
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr29, 2015
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"NO" to Shooting Range in Carlsbad.
Suresh Mehta
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Joann Kocyk
San Marcos, CA 92078
Apr28, 2015
Kelly Brannigan
Oceanside, CA 92058
Apr28,2015
No shooting range in Carlsbad,please
Lata Kumar
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Niravdesai7@hotrnailcom
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
No to shooting range
Nirav desai
Calsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
We do not want nor need a shooting range in carlsbad. Seem negligent to allow one near schools. Oceanside
bas a range15 minutes away, that should be sufficient for anyone who feels a need to shoot a gun.
Bob andrews
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28,2015
Sasha Andrews
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
Definitely not Not in mt backyard.
sudesh kumar
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
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Sukunlar Shah
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Larry Wampler
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Jamels Isoda
Vista. CA 92081
Apr28,2015
Rural areas are a better choice for shooting ranges should there be any. Keep shooting ranges away from
family oriented communities and city environments.
Vicky Jans
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr28, 2015
Sharon McFalls
El Cajon, CA 92021
Apr28, 2015
we do not need a shooting range in our community
Mary Borevitz
San Marcos, CA92069-9715
Apr28, 2015
Jennifer Batra
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 28,2015
Toni Rondinelli
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr28,2015
Victoria Binkerd
Santee, CA 92071
Apr28, 2015
This is not the kind of activity I want to see in Carlsbad as a resident. I am sute there are other places in the
County shooters can go.
Carrie Bedord
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
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Sara Ohara
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr28, 2015
PUT THE GUN SHOP J>UT OF BUSINESS> NO NO NO NO GUNS!!!!!
Jody Hood
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
No to the shooting range in Carlsbad!
Susan Sears
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
I am against guns. We do not want this range near us.
SonaiShah
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr28, 2015
I don't think we need to promote gun use in any form, but especially not as a form of recreation. There are so
many other recreational activities available. And to have such a shop anywhere near a school? That just
screams trouble. I am against it
Erin Newton
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Christine Hamparyan
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28,2015
Ursula Centers
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr28, 2015
Heather Wagy
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr27, 2015
jim rondinelli
Oceanside, CA 92054
Apr27, 2015
Aisha ayazi
sedona, AZ 86336
MoveOn.org 9
Apr27, 2015
Jonathan Yorck
eugene, OR 97405
Apr27, 2015
Elizabeth wilkinson
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr27, 2015
Janet
Eugene, OR 97405
Apr27,2015
Cheri M<;:Claughry
rocklin, CA 95765
Apr27,2015
Najoo Panthak:y
Carlsbad; CA 92010
Apr27,2015
Simona Hellinger
Carlsbad, CA 9201 1
Apr27, 2015
Jeff Ringel
Hillsborough, NJ 08844
Apr27, 2015
Victoria Davis
CARLSBAD, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Julie Pynes
San Diego, CA 92130
Apr27, 2015
Seth Venezia
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27,2015
Charles Dodson
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr27, 2015
LoraZaroff
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
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What I feel is that a shooting range is better than people sighting in their guns in the open or practicing
shooting in the open but I support the people of Carlsbad that do not want anything like this in their City.
What I think is much more important than this is Background Checks!!! That is what we should be pushing
for is Background checks just like Oregon is.
Sheila Kadah
Oceanside, CA 92057
Apr27, 2015
Elyse Matson.
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Allison Botts
Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067
Apr27; 2015
Outrageous idea to have guns anywhere near schools.
Judith Birnberg
Shennan Oaks, CA 91423
Apr27, 2015
Patricia Hansen
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27,20l5
Samuel McKee
Long Branch, NJ 07740
Apr27, 2015
Eileen Miller
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
We do not need a gun range in Carlsbad, we need more OPEN SPACE and less development!
AmandaM.
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr27, 2015
Kelly McMahon
Santa Rosa, CA 95409
Apr27, 2015
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I work in Carlsbad, I can't imagine a need for a shooting range, there are too many gun incidents now in our
country!
wendy hall
encinitas, CA 92024
Apr27,2015
I do no~ want a shooting range in my town
Nas1in Weigley
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
Gwen Lauren Meitcbik
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Jill Transki
Santa Barbara, CA 93108
Apr27,2015
Lynda
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27,2015
absolutely opposed to a gun range in my back yard!
Gloria Merriam
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27,20l5
Bad idea to have a shooting range close to schools. Every parent should be concerned and vote "NO"
Rohinton & Najoo Panthaky
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
Nita
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27, 2015
Ceseley Nicholson
Santa Rosa, CA 95405
Apr27, 2015
Susan cutri
Cardiff, CA 92006
Apr27, 2015
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Tricia
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Michele
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27,2015
Sophie
Houston, TX 77005
Apr27, 2015
My son goes to Pacific Ridge School and the last thing I want to worry about is a gun range walking distance
from his school! No!
Erin Hawk
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr27, 2015
Barbara White
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Yaz F Bilimoria
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Apr27, 2015
It's a STUPID idea and one that should be rejected for all the obvious reasons. NO to a shooting range!!
Manek Dustoor
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr27, 2015
Keep our kids safe!
Beatrice Shushan
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr27, 2015
NO to shooting range
vani
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr27, 2015
Barbara Mead
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr26, 2015
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olga
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr 26,2015
I'm shocked and surprised that in such a heavily populated area we are trying to get a gun range. I know that
gun ranges are used by the 99.99% responsible persons -but it really is the 0.01% we have to worry about-
Risk= probability ofhappening*consequence. With the constant litany of people having access to guns-who
should have not had-inflicting harm on the local public-it's inconceivable you would be taking this risk. Have
the gun owner take personal responsibility for everyone who picks up a gun on hlslher range-I'm willing to
bet they will not. That says it alL
David Baker
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr26, 2015
Pacific Ridge School (Private 7-12) is located i or 2 miles from the proposed shooting range which must
NOT be allowed.
nancyk.lee
carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr26, 2015
We do Not need a gun store or a shooting range in Carlsbad. Please DO NOT approve this~!!!! I'm very
concerned for our city and the nearby neighborhoods.
Lynn Selzer
Encinitas, CA 92024
Apr26,2015
Aliza Lopes-Baker
Carlsbad, CA 92021
Apr26, 2015
Aura christian
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Apr26, 2015
Randy Norris
Oceanside, CA 92056
Apr26, 2015
Robin Friedheim
Carlsbadc, CA 92011-4027
Apr26;20I5
arlene drucker
San Diego, CA 921 W-1247
Apr26,2015
MoveOn.org 14
We want our children safe from guns
Patricia McFarlane
Oceanside, CA 02057
Apr26,2015
I certainly hope the city fathers have enough concern for saftety of all, especially our small citizens. WE not
need more guns or facilities that encourage shooting, in the city
KTBOSE
carlsbad, CA 92009
Apr26, 2015
NarimaLopes
Carlsbad, CA 92011
Apr26, 2015
MoveOn.org 15
Petition: <'NO TO THE SHOOTING RANGE IN CARLSBAD"
Cadsbad does not need a shooting range on Loker Ave. Two schools are in dose vicinity of the
proposed shooting range. The planning commission has rejected the permit but the gtm shop
owner has now appealed to the Carlsbad city council and the hearing is on May 5,
We, the undersigned. are concerned citizens who urge Carlsbad City Council to deny the pennit
for the shooting range in Carlsbad
Printed Name Signature Address Comment Date
Donna Heraty
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Council Internet Email
Tuesday, May 05, 2015 10:26 AM
City Clerk
FW: Gun Range Support
From: Bob Christiansen [mailto:christiansenbob@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: Gun Range Support
OFrl~~ C-tY\ l<e~W'\ .
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I want to voice my support for the gun range being considered by the City Council. I serv'e on our
neighborhoods "Neighborhood Watch" team and am active in our community.
I attended the Citizens Academy 2 years ago and one of the most often asked questions was whether or not
Carlsbad citizens would be able to use the gun range at the new Police Training Center. I believe that
Gunthers should be allowed to open a gun range here in Carlsbad.
Thank you very much.
Bob Christiansen
2532 Abedul St.
Carlsbad, CA 92009
760-448-5012
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Donna Heraty
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Jim Williams <jwilliams3@earthlink.net>
Tuesday, May 05, 2015 10:56 AM
City Clerk
Proposed gun range
Dear sirs: I support the efforts to build a recreational gun shooting range here in Carlsbad at the Gunther Guns facility. It
will be a welcomed addition to the city's offerings to it's citizens and visitors.
Regards,
James Williams
6982 Mimosa Drive
Carlsbad, CA 92011
818-780-1222
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Donna Heraty
From: Council Internet Email
Sent:
To:
Tuesday, May OS, 2015 1:48 PM
City Clerk
Subject: FW: Shooting Range -Proposed
From: victor@vburns.com [mailto:victor@vburns.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May OS, 2015 1:25 PM
To: Council Internet Email
Subject: Shooting Range -Proposed
I fully support all activities in our fair city. I want to live, work, play, shop and accomplish as much as possible in my own
town. There seems to some disjoint and reluctance of the Planning Commission to validate that shooting sports are a
recreational activity. And while the exact use is not specified in the City Planning Documents, you cannot hardly ever
think all uses could be spelled out in such a document. Is it not the Planning Commissions job to work these matters
out? It sure seems to me that such a use in the proposed location would be an asset to the city.
Recreational shooting, target practice, firearm safety training are an important part of many familiies activities no to
mention another place for persons who carry firearms as part of their work etc. and need to practice to stay proficient.
As such,a local range than instructs on firearm safety and teaches shooting sports with a quality facility in our area
would be fantastic. Traveling to adjacent cities or all the way to Riverside and Orange Counties to shoot is really a lot of
effort.
Shooting ranges like the one proposed are so well regulated by the State and Federal government there can be no
operational issues surrounding this use.
I fully support this use in our City and even more so in the proposed location so we have yet another recreational activity
in which to participate on our own backyard.
Please, I encourage to you to vote to allow the proposed shooting range to be built and operated for the benefit of our
entire city population. Please make whatever accommodations and instruction back to staff, the Planning Commission
etc. so this project can move forward.
Respectfully,
Victor Burns
2709 Unicornio Street-Carlsbad-CA
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