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MTG. DATE: 4-1 6-01 PINE SCHOOL STATUS REPORT 0 ACTION
STAFF: BEVERLY
RECOMMENDED ACTION :
Accept and file staff update. -
ITEM EXPLANATION :
On March 27, 2001 the City Council once again considered the interim use recommendation for
the Pine School Property. The staff presentation that evening included the comments and
recommendations which were received during staff presentations during four public venues,
including the recommendation(s) of the Parks and Recreation Commission.
The Council's action that evening relative to the future of the Pine School site was as follows:
Remove all structures now.
Begin the Master Planning process.
Lease modular units which can be located on site to allow for existing services and
Directed staff to prepare reports which outline the services provided by the Centro De
provide restroom facilities.
Informacion, the Stay-N-Play and the summer recreation program and define what their
particular program needs are.
Staff will discuss what the next steps will be relative to the Pine School property and be available
to answer specific questions.
EXHIBITS:
1. City Council Agenda Bill #16,130
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DEPT. Recreation
Cln OF CARLSBAD - AGENDA BILL
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INTERIM USE RECOMMENDATION
FOR THE PINE SCHOOL PROPERTY
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I CITY MGR.~
RECOMMENDED ACTION :
Consider the recommendation and alternative options for the interim use of the Pine School
Property. Review the results of public input received during Community Fonrm(s). Direct staff to
process the appropriate environmental review, permits and ancillary documents required of
Council direction.
ITEM EXPLANATION :
On January 9,2001 staff presented to Council, a recornmendation and several alternative
suggestions for an interim use of the Pine School Property until its ultimate development as a
Zommunity park site. After Council discussion and considerable public input, staff was directed
:o perform a Community Outreach Program relative to this issue in order to accomplish two
lbjectives, they were:
0 Increase the public's awareness and understanding of what the interim use
0 Improve the public awareness and understanding of the Park Master Planning Process
recommendation and alternative suggestions entail.
and the procedures involved in park development. Reiterate the difference between the
Interim Use Plan for Pine School and how the Master Planning Process will determine its'
ultimate use.
To fulfill Council direction, staff conducted a public outreach program which included
Iresentations at four individual venues. Those venues were:
0 Youth Enrichment Services (Y.E.S.) Group held at the Barrio Museum on
0 Parks and Recreation Commission held at the Public Safety and Service Center on
0 Community Forum held at City Council Chambers on January 30, 2001.
0 Senior Commission held at the Senior Center on February 1,2001.
January 17,2001.
January 22,2001.
itthough many of the same comments expressed during the community outreach process were
dso expressed. during the Council meeting, the following information will summarize the outcome
It each meeting. In addition, attached as exhibits are the minutes or summaries of actions taken
It those various meetings. (Exhibits 1 through 3) .
louth Enrichment Services (Y.E.S.) Group
4s a result of comments received during the Y.E.S. presentation, staff prepared graphic layouts
If the various alternatives. Those graphics assisted in the public's understanding from a visual ~
Ierspective of what was being proposed. The graphics were displayed at future public meetings. .
At a special meeting held February 9,2001 the Youth Enrichment Senrices endorsed alternative
#I which is an enhancement to the recommended action and also includes the development cr
interim use ball fields. The group also recommended that any interim development utilize
design criteria which would save existing trees to the greatest extent possible. Additionally, the
group would like to see development of the “Community Facility” placed on a fast track.
(Exhibit 1)
Parks and Recreation commission
After a staff presentation, a limited amount of public input, and Commission discussion, the
Commission unanimously (6-0) recommended the following action: (Exhibit 2)
1. Implement Alternative #1 outlined in the report which razes all structures with the
exception of the northern most wing and cafeteria building. Rehabilitate those structures,
relandscape the razed area, install playground equipment and construct the interim use
activity play fields at an estimated development cost of $987,000.
2. Move CIP funding foward to begin the Park Master Planning Process now and move
’ development funding foward to construct the park (to include the “Community Facility“)
when the planning process is completed.
Communitv Forum
By far the largest venue for Community input, this well publicized Community Forum was held at
the City Council Chambers and was attended by over 100 members of the public. In all, 18
speakers addressed the issue and in summary, the main items of discussion centered around
the following issues:
The Centro De lnformacion - A majority (7 of 8) indicated the importance of the facility
staying open and remaining in the existing neighborhood. A petition of 400 signatures
was submitted in favor of the Centro remaining on site. This petition was also delivered
to the City Council.
Development of a “Community Facility”/Community Center/Multi Cultural-Educational
Facility/Gymnasium, etc.
Importance of and need for additional activity play fields.
Concern about possibility of eminent domain or other direct impacts to adjacent
properties.
Importance of providing activities for area youth.
A more detailed account of the speakers concerns are identified in the attached minutes.
(Exhibit 3)
Senior Commission
The Senior Commission allowed the final venue for Community input. Although the amount of
public input received was somewhat limited, many of the same issues were again addressed.
In addition, other comments included a request to consider the development of a lawn bowling .
facility, a pool, wood working amenity, and the importance of establishing a buffer between the
Pine School Park Site and the Senior Center. Several comments also expressed concern over
spending funds on an interim facility when it may be best to raze all structures and develop the
park site now. The Senior Commission accepted the staff report but took no official action.
Over the past 2 months, staff has been engaged in a rather extensive Community Outreach
Program which resulted in the distribution of over 300 flyers (English & Spanish), news releases
and publications in several newspapers, four individual community presentations and the
development of an extensive mailing list of concerned citiiens wishing to be notified of future
discussions relating to this issue.
Although a majority of thediscussion did indicate a desire to move CIP funding forward to begin
the park planning and d6velopment process sooner, a majority of discussion also indicated an
importance in continuing the Centro operation and doing so at its current location.
Notwithstanding that, staffs recommendation continues to remain as initially presented to
Council on January 9, 2001. In review, the staff recommendation and suggested alternatives
include:
'RECOMMENDED INTERIM USE :
The recommendation for an interim use at Pine School is to take a minimalist approach towards
any new development features and to raze all structures except for the most recently
constructed wing (Centro De lnformacion), and the cafeteria building. Rehabilitate those
structures to allow for the continued operation of the Centro and the relocation of the Stay-N-
Play Recreation Program. Re-landscape the razed area, resurface the hard court play area and
consider the installation of new playground equipment.
Est. Development Cost $620,800
Annual M & 0 Cost $ 95,500
' This recommendation assumes that $620,800 of Public Facility Fee Funding in the Capital I
Improvement Program Budget (Park Site Planning 8 Development - Pine School) would be
moved fotward immediately to complete this minimalist approach towards an interim
development.
ALTERNATIVE #7 :
Alternative #1 is actually an enhancement of the recommendation, which would also include the
development of interim use activity playfields (non-lighted). In addition to razing the Pine
School structures, this enhanced 'alternative would also raze the CUSD Maintenance Facility
and Carlsbad Village Academy (July 2001) to allow for one (1) adult size soccer field to be
constructed in Combination with the existing baseball/softball field and one (1) additional mid
size stand alone soccer field. This option also provides playground equipment and additional
parking.
A consideration with this alternative is that the ultimate development of the park site could be
delayed 7-10 years, and would then allow the 'Community Center" (CIP FY 2010-2020) to be
developed in conjunction with the park. This option would also allow the Chase Field Complex
and any other adjacent acquisition to be considered as part of the overall Park.Master Plan
when the site is ultimately developed.
Est. Development Cost $987,000
Annual M & 0 Cost $1 30,500
AL T€RNA TIVE #2 t
Move CIP funding forward, implementing the park planning process immediately and begin parh
development within two years. This alternative would initiate the public input and review
process to determine what park amenities would best meet the needs and desires of the
community. It is anticipated that this alternative will result in a significant community outreach
program. - - -
Master Planning Costs $ 300,000
Park Development Costs $1.614.000
$1,914,000'
Annual M & 0 Cost' $1 12,000 + (EST.)
'Does not include "Community Center"
This alternative assumes that funding for development of the park site as currently outlined in
the CIP would be moved forward from FY 2002-04 for planning ($300,0010) and from FY 2004-
05 for development ($1,614,000). However, it does not consider funding for the "community
center" at this time ($4,000,000) or its estimated annual M & 0 expense ($310,000). It should
also be noted that advancing CIP funding for one project may defer scheduled CIP projects or
prohibit requests to advance additional projects.
ALTERNATIVE #3 :
Raze all Pine School buildings; lease two (2) portable classrooms for the Stay-N-Play recreatiol
program and the Centro Operation. Provide restroom facility, re-landscape razed area and
consider installation of playground equipment.
Est. Development Cost: $438,400
Annual M 8 0 Cost: $124,300
This alternative assumes that the Centro will continue to operate at its present location and that
the afternoon Stay N Play program will operate from this site as well as a summer recreation
program. Similar to any alternative involving structure demolition, those costs would be
allocated from the CIP because the razing of structures would be associated with the ultimate
cost of project development. Construction of a restroom facility would also be funded with CIP
funds and also considered as a project cost.
EXHIBITS:
1. Letter from Carlsbad Youth Enrichment Services - February 12,2001
2. Draft Minutes and Summary Report of January 22,2001 Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting for AB 101-10, "Interim Use Recommendation For The Pine
School Property".
3. Minutes of January 30, 2001 Community Forum - 'Pine School Interim Use".
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Februiiry 12,2001
Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Department
1200 Carlsbad Village Drive
Carlsbad. CA 92008
Dear Mr. Beverly:
At a special meeting of Carlsbad Youth Enrichment Services held Friday.
February 9.2001 the Pine School interim use recommended action and
suggested alternatives was discussed. These were outlined in a workshop
held on January 30 in City Council chambers.
Our organization endorses Alternative #1 (which is an enhancement to the
recommended action that we agree with) as it includes interim use of
ball fields. Our concern is that children have immediate use of the playing
fields.
U.c also \could like to recommend that any design for interim use of
ball fields and playground equipment use the criteria of saving existing
trees IO the greatest extent possible.
Everyone would like to see the "Community Center" placed on a fast
trac I\.
\{.e appreciate bein? able yartirinat? in th,. nrcyrlcc and wy~k! like 10
ha\'e a representative from I'ES on any future committees that will be
discussing or determining the uses of the future "Community Center".
Thank you for considering our imput.
Sincere]! h
Vice Chairman
EXHIBIT 1
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Pab and Recreation Commission
10. AB #101-10 INTERIM USE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PINE SCHOOL PROPERTY
Keith Beverlv aave the staff presentation on this item. He explained that the item went to -~
City Council;; Tuesday, January 9,2001 , and that it dealt with the proposed interim use of the
facility. He added that City Council directed staff to go out into the community and make sure
that the community understood staffs recommendations and explain the eventual Master
Planning process to the community, and what that process will entail.
Mr. Beverly explained &at has been done to date with the workshops. He referred to the area
on slides and explained the current status of the PrOpel'tY. as outlined in the Commissioner's
packets for the evening. Mr. Beverly described staffs recammended interim use as well as
three alternatives., also outlined in the Commissioners' packets. He stated the costs for the
proposed plan and for the alternative plans, and suggested alternative sources for funding.
. Questions and discussion included the following issues: Concern that the Parks and Recreation Cornmission was left out of the loop before the item
was presented to City Council
Clarification on the direction staff received on the item
Recommendation that the City follow the park Siting use process
..Procedure if another alternative was recommended by the Parks and Recreation
Commission Explanation of why the recornmended action was selected
Suggestion that Alternative #l would give something back to the community
Importance of keeping children occupied as soon as possible to prevent them from
becoming involved in criminal activities
Competition among different projects for funding with desire to build all facilities now
Source of funding for a park in the Northwest Quadrant
Possibility of beginning the planning process right away on the Pine School Property
Clarification of park-in-lieu fees
Joe Canales, Carlsbad, explained that his mother lived near the baseball field and asked for
clarification of potential road connections. Mr. Beverly explained that nothing has been decided
at this point. Mr. Canales also asked for darifcation of when the school district was vacating the
building. He suggested placing the swimming pool or a satellite police department at the site.
.He recommended going fotward with the project, and suggested that this type of issue should
come before the Parks and Recreation Commission prior to being heard at City Council, Mr.
Beverly addressed the issues raised by Mr. Canales.
Mario Monroy, 749 Magnolia Avenue, Carlsbad, stated that the Northwest Quadrant Group
suggested that no minimal expenditures be made before the Master Plan was developed, He
added that once the Master Plan was developed, money would move ahead. He mentioned that
the Mayor said that a bond could be considered. He expressed his hope that the Commission
move the planning process ahead, including the bond issue.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
After Aviara Oaks School, no other schools could be used to.meet park inventory according
Issue of leaving the buildings as is + Importance of obtaining citizen input + Feasibility of spending an additional $300,000 more than staffs recommendation and to
to City Council
begin the Park Master Planning process, sooner
EXHIBIT 2
Parks and Recreation Commission -0- January 22,2001
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Pachem, AB #AlOl-lO, to recommend an
additional alternative, which is to recommend Attemative #l as outlined in
the Ci Counal Agenda Bill and to immediately move forward into
Alternative #2 with the community center added.
Schulberg, and Davidson AYES: Vice Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco, Ramirez,
NOES: NLne ABSTAIN: Nene
ABSENT: Chaimn Cox
11. AB #101-1.1 COMMllTEE ASSIGNMENTS
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Davidson, AB #lOl-1 1 , to table the item
AYES: Vice Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco, Ramkez,
NOES: None
_. ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Chairman Cox
until the next meeting.
Schulberg, and Davidson
COMMllTEUCOUNClL REPORTS
None.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
1.
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ramirez to adjourn the Regular Meeting at
AYES: Vice Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco. Ramirez,
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Chairman Cox
9: 10 p.m.
Schulberg, and Davidson I
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Stark
Minutes Clerk
January 24,2001
TO: MAYOR LEWIS MAYOR PRO TEM KULCHIN
COUNCIL MEMBERS FINNILA, NYGAARD, HALL:
FROM: SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST
SUMMARY REPORT OF THE JANUARY ~2,2001 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
PUBLIC OPEN FORM
Lisa Rodman requested to address the Commission regarding the development of an additional swim complex for the community. At the conclusion of her solicitation for a second swim complex, and because this was a non
agenda item, the Commission requested staff to address this issue at the next Parks and Recreation
Commission Meeting. The presentation is to also include the results of the most recently conducted city wide
survey with respect to recreational amenities.
CONSENT CALENDAR
With the exception of agenda item #101-2, the following consent items were unanimously (6-0) approved.
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6.
AB #IO14 COMMISSIONERS REPORT - Departmental information for January 2001.
AB #101-3 SISTER CITY TOURlPARlS AND KARLOW VARY - Information relayed by the Sister City
Committee.
AB #I014 RECEIPT OF $500 DONATION - The Commission received a donation in support of the
Opportunity Grants Program and recommended acceptance by the City Council. I
AB #i 01-5 RECEIPT OF $242 DONATION - The Commission received an additional donation in
support of the Opportunity Grants Program.
AB tl01-6 COMMISSION ASSIGNMENT TO REVIEW ZONE 19 PARK ARTWORK - The Commission
ratified Commissioner Pacheco's appointment to the Artwork Committee.
AB #lo107 CPRS AWARDS AND INSTALLATION BANQUET - The Commission was notified of, and
extended an invitation to attend the Awards and Installation Ceremony.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
AB #lo1 -2 LElTER FROM RICHARD LANTZ - The Commission discussed the issue of the need for a
second pool in Carisbad as reference by Mr. Lank's letter which was addressed to both the City Council
and Parks and Recreation Commission. Staff briefly relayed the history of the secondary pool request(s)
over the past several years and responded that the current CIP budget acknowledges a site location
(Alga Norte Park) and funding ($5,300,000) for development of the future swim complex. Staff further
responded that this item would be discussed per the Commissions direction at the next Commission
Meeting. By a 5-1 vote (Schulberg-nay/Cox absent) the Commission recommended that in some
manner, a report be forwarded to City Council expressing the interest of the Commission in advancing
the development of another swim complex in Carisbad. In addition, the recommendation included that
staff bring the issue of the pool development back for discussion at the next Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Schulberg was in opposition of the motion because he 'indicated that other areas of
recreational interest, such as trail systems (not just a pool), should also be reported on as well. Staff
indicated this information would be delivered to the Council via the Summary Report for this commission meeting.
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DEPARTMENT REPORTS
8. AB MO1-8 ZONE 19 PARK PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN APPROVAL AND PARK NAMING PROCEDURE RECOMMENDATION - Staff presented the Zone 19 Park Preliminary Master Plan as
I prepared by the park planning design team. The proposed plan was based on previous discussions
during the November Commission Meeting and on public comment received at the open househvorkshop
held on December 7, 2000. The Preliminary Master Plan as presented, included the 'Preferred Concept
Plan", community center plan, and the park building programs.
By a 5-1 vote (Cunninghm nay/Cox absent) the Commission did not endorse the plan as presented.
Rather, the vote recommhded that before further processing, staff indude the development of a swim
complex within the Preliminary Master Plan at the location outlined foi the two (2) lighted soccer fields.
The issue related to naming the park site was deferred until a later date.
9. AB #lo18 ZONE 5 INTERIM BALL FIELD - After a staff presentation acknowledging the need to
replace the existing Safety Center ball field as a result of the proposed construction of the Public Works
building, the Commission unanimously approved (6-0) the development of an interim ball field pian at the
future Zone 5 industrial recreation park site. More permanent ball fields will be provided through
acquisition of park acreage in the Northeast Quadrant and in the final design of the Zone 5 park site.
IO. AB #101-10 INTERIM USE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PINE SCHOOL PROPERTY - Staff
presented the same interim use report to the Commission which was presented to the City Council on
January 9, 2001. Although the item was placed on the agenda as an informational item for discussion
and comment by the Commission, it was also meant to serve as an additional venue for review and
comment by the general public.
Subsequent to an acknowledged dissatisfaction that the introduction of this item to the Commission did
not precede Council presentation, the unanimous (6-0) recommendation by the Commission was two
fold: I
1. Implement alternative #1 outlined in the report which razes all structures with the ex&ption of the
northern most wing and cafeteria building. Rehabilitate those structures, re-landscape the razed
area, install playground equipment and construct the interim use activity playfields at an estimated
development cost of $987,000.
2. Move CIP funding forward to begin the Park Master Planning process now and move development
funding forward to construct the park (to include the 'community facility") when the planning process
is completed.
11. AB #101-11 COMMlnEE ASSIGNMENTS - This item was deferred until the next PRC meeting.
Respecffully Submitted,
KEITH BEVERLY 0
C: City Manager
Assistant City Manager
Department Heads
Commission Staff Liaisons
PRC File -.
Minutes of:
7ime of. Meeting:
Date of Meeting:
Place of Meeting:
CO~MUNlTY FORUM - PINE SCHOOL INTERIM USE
6:OO P.M.
January 30,2001
City Council Chambers
Staff Members Present;
Ken Price, Recreation Brector
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
.Doug Duncanson, General Services Manager
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator
Jim Hawks, Police Chief
Frank Mannen, Assistant City Manager
Pat Kelley, Principal Building Inspector
Jason Martin, Associate Planner
Jeff Amour, Assistant Library Director
Sue Spickard, Senior Services Manager -
Ken Price, Recreation Director, welcomed everyone to the workshop. He explained that on
January 9, 2001, City Council received a presentation regarding the interim use of the Fine
School property. He added that during that meeting, City Council heard a presentation from
staff regarding staffs recommendation and alternative uses for the property. After the
presentation, City Council heard citizen input, resulting in City Councils’ request that the
community should be aware of the recornmendation and the alternatives. City Council directed
staff to conduct an outreach program so that the community understands the information
contained in the report (recommendations and alternatives) as well as the difference between
interim use and how the Masker Planning process will determine the ultimate use.
Mr. Price explained that the goal for the workshop was to share the interim use, ideas for the
park, including staffs recommendation, and to also discuss the park planning process and what
it entailed. He added that the most important aspect of the process was to hear the concerns
,and questions of the community which would be passed on to City Council.
Mr. Price reviewed the Agenda, and added that staff was sending around a sign-in sheet for
people to fill in their names and addresses. He mentioned that as more news developed on the
Pine Street property, staff would make everyone aware of what was going or,
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator, explained the Park Master Pianning process.
He stated that it was a document plan that guided the City through the development of a park.
He referred to the public input process chart on a slide and described other workshops
previously held for other parks. He stated that after input from the community, staff synthesized
the information into a plan. He pointed out slides showing the Poinsettia and Carrillo Ranch
master plans.
Mr. Steyaert explained what was in the current Capital Improvement Program Budget for this
park and reviewed the schedule. He added that it was important to integrate input from the
community, staff, and other City departments.
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, described the Interim Use Report, including staffs
recommendation and suggested alternatives, as outlined in the handout given to attendees. He
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mentioned that the presentation he was giving that evening was the same PESenbtiOn given to
City Council and the Parks and Recreation Commission. He pointed out the site on the slide,
and described the background in detail. Mr. Beveriy reviewed the current CIP Budget for the
park site and indicated that it would take approximately two years to ptan the park.
He also described what was done to develop the Interim Use Strategy to date, and stated that
the consensus was to &&e a minimalist development approach for the property as outlined in
the handout. He then deicribed Alternative #l , which would allow the property to be used as an
active recreational area for a number of years. He added that at the end of 7-10 years, the
community facility could be built which would allow development of the entire site at one time.
Mr. Beverly described Alterative #2 which included developing the park site according to the
current CIP schedule. Alternative #3 was explained as razing all structures and moving modular
units on site to accommodate Stay 'n Play and the Centm Operation.
He then outlined the fiscal impacts of the recommended action and the three alternatives. He
explained that the estimates were based upon past experiences, current practices, and
applicable industry standards for restoration costs but then added reasons why the costs could
change. Mr. Beverly stated that there were alternative funding sources and described a few of
them.
Public comment commenced at 6:40 p.m.
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Allen Manzano, 1250 Hoover Street, Carlsbad, stated that he had a copy of a petition that was
being fonvarded to the City Council. He expressed his desire for the Centro Operation to remain
on the site and explained why. He added that there were over 400 signatures on the petition.
Roy Sanchez, 3482 Roosevelt, Carlsbad, stated that the community center should be built first.
He explained that if the City waited toolong to construct the community center, the costs would
increase too much. He pointed out that there were basketball and soccer courts on school
grounds so those amenities could wait. Mr. Sanchez recommended using the money for the
community center and added that the community had been trying to get one in the area for the
last 15 years.
Leslie Chavez said that she agreed with Mr. Sanchez that the community center should be
completed first. She gave reasons why the City should not take away the Centro Operation and
described some of the activities for learning that currently took place at the Center. Ms. Chavez
emphasized the importance of educating the adults in the comrnuntty.
Joe Canales, 3447 Jefferson, Carlsbad, stated that he represented his mother. He suggested
that the Pine School site could house buildings such as a community center, amphitheatre, or a
pool. He suggested that the City provide a larger mom for Ms. Chavet at the library. Mr.
Canales suggested demolishing everything and making it one nice place. He added that he
grew up there and attended Pine School in the ffih grade. He recornmended putting the money
towards a new pool, which would benefit the community as a whole and not just the Hispanics.
Bill Fait, 1650 Oak Avenue, Carlsbad, indicated that he had a few questions. He mentioned that
he was under the impression that the demolition would include the maintenance facility and
academic site. He asked if .another demolition was required for the maintenance facility and
academic site. Mr. Beverly responded that because of the uncertainty when the maintenance
and academy would actually leave the site, the answer was unclear at this time. He explained
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that the cost used was in a range between $200,000 to $250,000 and that some of the
alternatives would include demolition now whereas others would not.
Mr. Fait said that he was concerned if there were two separate demolitions because it would be
more expensive and should be avoided if possible.
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Mr. Beverly said the sitesay also be used for training exercises for the Fire Department bot
that was not definite. --
Mr. Fait also asked if Alternatives 1 and 2 were ever considered to be meshed since he felt
there were good things in both alternatives. Mr. Beverly indicated that Alternative 2 suggested.
moving CIP funding up right away. '
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Mr. Fait stated that he would be in favor of moving master planning up even further in the
schedule since he felt that this was a very important project for the City and for the Northwest
Quadrant specifically.
Denise Childs, spoke on behalf of her sister who just purchased a house off Madison. She
stated that once her sister moved into the house, she was told that the City might be
demolishing houses as part of eminent domain. Mr. Beverly assured her that the City was not
pursuing property through eminent domain and explained that the City recently acquired two
Farcels that were placed on the open market.
f s. Childs emphasized that as a teacher in Vista, she felt it was important to keep the Cent6
I: + Inforrnacion. She added that parental support was very important. She pointed out that the
i lgest factors in a student's success were parental and community support.
Jim Comstock, 2755 Jefferson, Carlsbad, explained that he was president of Carlsbad Youth
Baseball and Carlsbad Soccer Club. He pointed out that there were no soccer ftelds in the
bamo and explained how his group was trying to involve more residents from tit4 barrio in the
baseball programs. He stated there were a shortage of fields and that it was difficult issue to
turn players away, but that it would probably happen within the next year or two. Mr. Cornstock
said that today they were lacking a field for 11/12 year olds to play on.
Larry Cisneros, 7034 Ivy Street, Carlsbad, stated that he was affiliated with Carlsbad Pop
Warner Football He said that he was part of the board that gave money to the Carlsbad Unified
School District for the stadium and gave money to the high school towards the high school field.
He explained that practice facilities were a problem and that lights were critical since practice
wac often takblg place in the dark. 1
Caroljean Kottlstedt, 3710 Adams Street, Carlsbad, stated that her grandmother's property was
at 3322 Madison. She wanted to know .what types of facilities were going to be built on the
properties that were purchased by the City and if it would require rezoning. She also asked for
clarification on closing the street off Chestnut and expressed concern about safety in the area if
there were neither lights nor a watch patrol in the area. Ms. Kohlstedt added that she did not
think fields were the answer in that area and that it was important to have some type of
community center where adults and children could be educated.
Mr. Beverly clarified that the property the.Ci~ acquired was on the open market and that the
recommendation and alternatives did not consider what will be done on those praperties. He
added that the City would be sensitive to residents nearby when evaluating what would be done
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with the pmperties. Regarding Chestnut, Mr. Beverly explained that at this point nothing has
been considered and that before anything could be done, there would be public review and
input. With regard to lighting, he explained that safety was an important issue and that there
were lighting alternatives that could &considered on an interim basis and for the permanent
site as well.
Gil Apodaca, representel his mother who rives at 3345 Madison, Carlsbad. He wanted to know
if the public would hav6ore opportunities for input in planning the park. Mr. Beverly
responded yes. and clarified that this public workshop was only for the interim park.
Mr. Apodaca referred to Moonlight Theater. He stated that he also went to Pine School and
would like to see development of the park going ahead as quickly as possible. He
recommended that the development should be handled like a business which could have a
. gym, multicultural building, performing arts center, small amphitheatre, or'a small swimming .
pool. He expressed concern about the:parking situation and volunteered to become more
involved in planning the park.
Pam and Maria, 3368 Eureka, Carlsbad, represented Head Start, and expressed that they were in favor of Centro Operation remaining open. They explained that Head Start used the facility
which was a safe learning environment for the children. They added that they hoped the City
would keep it open for future leaders.
Barbara Moreno, 2605 Madison, Carisbad, said that she was here for the youth of Carlsbad and
explained that at one time she ran the Stay-N-Play program. Ms. Moreno mentioned that in
1997 the program opened with 20 children, and went to 220 children attending daily within three
weeks. She described some of the activities, and pointed out that even on a rainy day, children
walked over to participate. She stated that this community deserved the center more than any
other neigborhood since it was the oldest in Carlsbad. and added, that she and her sisters went
to Pine School.
Julio Ramierz, 1298 Buena Vista, Cartsbad, represented his father who lived at 3515 Madison.
He stated that waiting for completion of the park until 2020 was too long and commented that
the City and staff was doing a great job. He expressed the importance of remembering the
children of the community and stated that. the children did not have means to get to the library
which was why it was important to.keep Centro Operation open. Mr. Ramirez encouraged
everyone to participate in the public workshops.
Another speaker said that the Center should stay since it reduced violence, provided more
education for the children, and kept them away from the streets. She added that the City should
create more places to educate all children,
Don Jackson, 260 Normandy Lane, Carlsbad, stated that he played softball at Pine School in
the 1930's. He said that the children today needed more fields to play on and that development
of the park should be moved up.
Rodney Martinez, 3367 Madison, Carlsbad, said that he was in favor of Alternative #2, and that
the City should get the CIP funding moving very quickly. He explained that he was a park
ranger in the county of San Diego and stated that it was important to have security at the site
right away. He suggested that the City should not put picnic tables there and abandon it but that
it was important to staff the area. He asked if the area would be gated and locked up at night.
Mr. Beverly said that until the planning process began and it was determined what will be
developed on the site, no decisions would be made regarding fencing the fadities.
Emily B. Cordella, La Costa, said that she frequented facilities on Carlsbad Village Drive, and
that she was concerned that there were no skateboarding facilities in the area. She asked that
the Center remain open and that a skateboard facility be added in the area to the future plans.
She pointed out the irnpgrtance of the children getting to a skateboard facility without havihg to
be driven there. - - -
Clara Lorenzo, 3120 Madison, stated that she had two girls, 3 and 7, and that she was there to
support keeping the Centro Operation. She stated that since her children started attending
Head Start, they were motivated to read and walk to the Center. She added that at the library
there were older people reading, which meant the children had to be quiet. Ms. Lorenzo stated
that at Centro Operation, the children had the opportunity to view videos and look at books. She
mentioned that the Center was open at times that fit their needs, and that in order for the . .
children to become productive citizens, they needed to know how to read and write.
The Public hearing was closed at 6:35 p.m.
Mr. Beverly thanked the audience for attending and participating in the Community Forum and
stated that based upon the comments received, a report would be made to the City Council. He
added that one more venue was scheduled for the next day (February 1) at the Senior Center
at 1 :15 p.m. He reminded the audience to sign the sheet so that they can be contacted when
the City Council meeting occurs.
The Community Forum closed at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Stark,
.Minutes Clerk