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AGRICULTURAL CONVERSION MITIGATION FEE AD HOC
CITIZENS’ ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
September 2, 2008
1635 Faraday Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Room 173A
ITEM 1: CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chairperson, Eric Larson called the meeting to order at 1:10 p.m., and welcomed Jackie Stone as
a new Committee Member.
Committee Members Present: Irv Rosten-Retired, Julie Baker-Planning Commission Representative,
Richard Erhardt-Chairperson of the Beach Preservation Committee,
Eric Larson-Chairperson/Executive Director of the San Diego County
Farm Bureau, Ken Alfrey-Board Member of the Agua Hedionda
Lagoon Foundation and Hope Wrisley-Community Leader, and Jackie
Stone-League of Women Voters
Staff Members Present: Scott Donnell, Senior Planner
Kevin Pointer, Associate Planner
ITEM 2: ELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON
Motion to elect Eric Larson as Chairperson of the Agricultural Conversion Committee (following the
earlier resignation of Chairperson Julie Nygaard in accordance with her taking office as a member of
the City Council) was made by Ms. Wrisley and seconded by Ms. Baker. Motion to elect Julie Baker as
Vice-Chairperson was made by Irv Rosten and seconded by Eric Larson. By consensus, Eric Larson
was elected Chairperson of the Committee and Julie Baker was elected Vice-Chairperson.
ITEM 3: APPROVAL OF JUNE 6, 2007 MINUTES
Referring to Page 10, Section 7, Line 12, Chairperson Larson, corrected the minutes by stating the
word “All” should be replaced with the word “most” and should read as follows: “Most farms are on
leased lands in Carlsbad.”
Motion: Motion made by Ms. Wrisley and seconded by Ms. Baker to accept the Minutes of the
meeting of June 6, 2007. By consensus, the minutes were approved as revised.
ITEM 4: HISTORY OF COMMITTEE BACKGROUND AND OPERATING PROCEDURES
Associate Planner Kevin Pointer made reference to the report in this meeting’s agenda packet and
presented a brief slide show. Mr. Pointer briefly reviewed the earlier history of agricultural conversion
mitigation. Following the state’s administration of the conversion and mitigation program, the City took
over the administration of that program for Carlsbad. The present committee was established in 2004,
by the City Council, as a mechanism to gain more knowledge and understanding of how to implement
the program and disperse the funds that had already been collected by the state and by the City. In
2006, the City Council adopted a program establishing regulations and procedures that would carry the
committee forward in soliciting grant proposals to recommend disbursement of those funds to projects
that would in return mitigate the conversion of agricultural land to urban uses.
Ms. Wrisley pointed out that the committee was originally established with a four (4) year life and asked
if there is a provision for extending the life of the committee.
Mr. Pointer replied there is a provision for extending the committee’s life. In 2005 the committee was
created for a four (4) year term and that term lapses on August 2, 2009. If, by that time, the committee
has not carried out its full mandate and the City Council otherwise chooses to re-establish the life term
of the committee, they would have the opportunity of doing that before the “sunset” date of the
committee. As part of the City Council’s mandate, the charge of the committee was to make
recommendations to expend the money that has been collected from the agricultural mitigation
conversion fees, in keeping with the criteria and regulations established by Section 21.202.060 of the
Municipal Code, which establishes the Agricultural Conversion Mitigation Program.
DISCUSSION:
Chairperson Larson asked for questions or discussion. Hearing none, Mr. Larson stated that the
committee had been using a facilitator up to this point and wondered if there were any comments or
concerns regarding the resumption of using a facilitator. He added that he feels that a facilitator is no
longer needed and he would like to save the expense of a facilitator.
Ms. Wrisley said she would like the committee to reserve the right to have a facilitator, at a later date, if
necessary.
Chairperson Larson asked if the committee agreed with Ms. Wrisley to which all members agreed.
Mr. Pointer stated that part of the City Council’s mandate, Committee procedures establish that the
chairperson is to lead the meetings while a facilitator would lead the discussions. Facilitator
participation is not absolutely necessary at all meetings but if at some time in the future when the
committee might consider grant proposals, staff would certainly encourage use of a facilitator.
ITEM 5: REPORT AND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON STATUS OF PROJECTS AWARDED
WITH GRANT FUNDING
Mr. Pointer reported that of the sixteen (16) grant proposals that were submitted to the City, thirteen
(13) were approved for an approximate total of $6.5 million by the City Council in accordance with the
Committee’s recommendations. To date, four (4) of those projects have been fully funded and have
been or are in the process of being fully constructed. Five (5) of the thirteen (13) authorized grants
have received partial funding and the remaining four (4) have not yet received any funds. Updates on
the progress of those funded projects can be found in this meeting’s agenda packet and have been
provided by individual project applicants. As of the time of the printing of the agenda packet however, a
report from the Audubon Nature Center had not been received regarding the improvements to their
Learning Center. However, a copy of a letter from the Audubon Nature Center, received on the date of
the meeting, was distributed to each of the committee members and was made available at the meeting
for public distribution. This letter indicated the status update of their Audubon Nature Center project.
Staff believes that the implementation and awards are taking place very appropriately and encourages
all of the award recipients who have not yet received the money, to move forward with the utmost
success.
DISCUSSION:
Ms. Baker stated she understood there is a possibility that some of the recipients are now not sure they
will be going forward with their projects and asked Mr. Pointer to explain.
Mr. Pointer replied that a letter had been received from Catholic Charities stating that the original grant
of $108,000 has been set aside for preliminary project development planning as well as for permit fees.
Mr. Pointer then deferred to the applicant’s representative present in the audience to address additional
questions regarding the intentions of the Catholic Charities applicant.
Ms. Baker asked if there is or will be a time limit placed on the applicant’s project regarding completion.
Mr. Pointer replied that he knows of no such time limit.
Chairman Larson stated that he didn’t recall setting any time limits.
Ms. Baker suggested there should be a discussion, on a future agenda, to determine if there should be
time limits applied to the grant projects and if so, how long should the limits be.
Sister RayMonda DuVall, representing Catholic Charities stated that the delay in implementation all has
to do with operational funds. Catholic Charities believes that they would be able to build the project
with the City funds and perhaps an augmentation of those funds. What are not available, however, are
operational funds. Since submittal of the original project application, operational costs have already
increased by $30,000. Catholic Charities would like to brainstorm or provide other suggestions for the
committee to consider, but it would put aside the original proposal and modify that proposal to one that
Catholic Charities can afford to operate given the various sources that have been committed towards
funding the project. Catholic Charities believes that they are the best to construct a project and operate
a project; however, they do not want to lead the City or agency into a hole.
Ms. Wrisley asked if La Posada is in any danger of not being able to operate due to lack of funds.
Sister RayMonda responded that Catholic Charities allocates $100,000 every year towards La Posada.
The Board of Directors for Catholic Charities has committed to funding this amount to La Posada
annually; however, they would like the Catholic Charities portion of funding for La Posada to not exceed
this amount. Sister RayMonda responded that La Posada is not in danger of being unable to operate.
Irv Rosten asked whether the resident population has increased or decreased since the last time the
Committee met.
Eddie Preciado indicated that the resident population at La Posada has increased. La Posada has
seen the homeless population increase to approximately 25 persons because of their work with other
cities in North County in the past eight months.
Irv Rosten then asked if the majority of increase has been farmworkers. Eddie Preciado indicated that
before he left for vacation that there were at least 13 farmworkers and at least 8 non-farmworkers. He
speculated that are likely more farmworkers now.
Ken Alfrey asked Sister RayMonda and Eddie Preciado if they are suggesting that the already
approved $100,000 for the design, be placed back in the fund and further asked whether they felt the
committee should consider another grant application from La Posada.
Sister RayMonda clarified that she intended to convey neither. She explained what she wanted to say
was that she believed the design was submitted for which the $100,000 was to approve the design and
do the permitting was not an affordable plan in the best scenario for the City or for Catholic Charities.
She then suggested that they come back to the committee with a different plan that is much more
modest, that is probably much more attainable in terms of operations and that fund ought to be
available so that the City has an opportunity to review something. Also, at that time, the committee
could make a decision on it and if appropriate, to issue the permit. She also stated that she thinks
Catholic Charities and the City need to “go back to the drawing board” and come back with something
that will meet the needs, and meet the state requirements for that funding but also will be operational
for the next twenty (20) years. Sister RayMonda also pointed out that the new plan would be much
more adaptable to any changes in their services as time passes. For example, if in ten years, the need
is no longer there for farmworker housing, then perhaps the project could be converted based on
another need, such as family housing. She expressed how much Catholic Charities likes the current
design but the reality of it is that they could afford to build it but they would not be able to operate it.
In response to a question from Chairperson Larson about the original design, Sister RayMonda replied
that the low rents paid by farmworkers and others would not come close to totaling enough to cover the
expenses.
Chairman Larson asked Sister RayMonda what time frame the committee could expect results if the
committee is amenable to having an alternative project brought forward, to which she replied, “two
months”.
Chairperson Larson asked if there were any other questions for Sister RayMonda or any other projects
or project proponents.
Ms. Baker queried the e-mail received from Mr. Munoz of the Agua Hedionda Lagoon Foundation and
asked if there was any more information on the request to leverage additional funds.
Nikki Weaver, representing the Agua Hedionda Lagoon Foundation as the Discovery Center Director,
addressed the committee. She indicated that the Agua Hedionda Lagoon Foundation is troubled with
the difficulty to acquire additional acreage of approximately 5-7 acres surrounding their property. She
indicated that there is difficulty coordinating among various agencies regarding regulations applicable to
the land.
Ms. Baker asked if there was a time frame regarding anticipated resolution of the issues. Ms. Weaver’s
response was approximately 10 months. Ms. Weaver indicated that although not all of the issues have
been resolved, they may begin to use some of the funding immediately.
Chairperson Larson asked if there was anyone present from staff who could speak to the sand
replenishment Project.
Mr. Pointer pointed out that there was no one present from the Engineering Department to respond.
Chairperson Larson pointed out that the budget for that project actually changed since the Committee
made a recommendation for a “Carlsbad Only” project and now money from the agricultural conversion
mitigation fund is being folded into a SANDAG project. He said he wants a re-confirmation, to the
committee, that this makes sense and also a statement of the City’s rationale for moving in that
direction.
Mr. Pointer replied that it is his understanding that the City Council looked at re-evaluating and
modifying the original recommendation of the committee. Council decided that with the region-wide
beach sand replenishment program that is currently being conducted by SANDAG that the same
benefits could be attained in terms of the amount of sand on the beach. But those benefits could be
obtained through using a little less money generated from the City of Carlsbad that the City had
originally earmarked and encumbered for the “Beach Only” project. Also, it is Mr. Pointer’s
understanding that the SANDAG project is on track for a 2011 completion.
ITEM 6: RECEIVE REPORT AND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON FUND BALANCE, FUND
AUGMENTATION, LAND CONVERSIONS AND FUND PROJECTIONS
Mr. Pointer stated as follows: This item discusses the amount of funding non-encumbered and available
for funding of potential future grant solicitations or grant projects. The current amount of money within
the actual fund is approximately $5.9 million. Of that money, however, City Council has encumbered
about $5.2 million. Some of that money will be disbursed to the applicants of projects that have already
received grant awards. In the meantime the City is retaining those funds which are accruing interest.
Over the past year the City acquired approximately $280,000 in interest income so there is a continuing
increase in the dollars in the fund. The City, overall, has collected the majority of the money that will
contribute to the program. The coastal agricultural lands that are within the City (whether previously
converted or not), are approximately 900 acres. About 77% of those lands have already been
developed and converted to urban uses. They have, essentially, paid the mitigation fees or mitigated
the conversion in some other way. To date, all of the developers have paid the mitigation fees. The
remaining 23% of the lands are still available for conversion to urban uses. However, staff does not
foresee that all of that land will eventually convert to urban uses. Those lands may be preserved for
other uses, require a permanent preservation for habitat, or may remain undeveloped for other reasons.
An example of this is urban planning regulations that would preclude a developer from fully developing
100% of their entire property. The maximum fee projection is $1.7 to $2.2 million dollars depending on
how much of those lands can or will be converted to urban uses. Right now there are about $700,000
left in the grant account that is currently un-encumbered but has potential to be distributed for additional
grant projects.
Ms. Wrisley questioned whether the City has already received mitigation funding for the Robertson
Ranch, Cantarini and Holly Springs projects
Scott Donnell responded that the City has not and will not receive funds from these projects because
they are not part of the program due to their location.
Mr. Pointer clarified that projects such as the Encina Auto Plaza will be going forward to the Planning
Commission in the near future and has the capability to contribute approximately $250,000 towards the
fund. Mr. Pointer clarified that the purpose of conveying available un-encumbered balance in the fund
(about $700,000) is to allow the committee to consider the potential and capacity for funding additional
grant projects. Mr. Pointer continued through the presentation of a powerpoint slideshow depicting
maps showing properties that are subject to the program, as well as a map showing projects that have
been funded through the program.
A member of the audience, Mat Huff, questioned whether these maps were/are available on the City’s
website. Mr. Donnell and Mr. Pointer indicated that the information is available in the agenda packet
which is posted to the City’s website.
ITEM 7: RECEIVE REPORT AND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON AVAILABLE FUNDING
AND POTENTIAL GRANT SOLICITATIONS
Chairperson Larson asked for committee comments regarding the $700,000 on hand and also
discussion regarding Catholic Charities’ request for additional time to bring in a revised project.
Ms. Wrisley stated she would like to see their time extended to two (2) to twelve (12) months but for no
longer than that.
Chairman Larson reminded the committee that part of the committee’s charter is that they meet a
minimum of twice a year and because this meeting is the first to be held in 2008, they will have to plan
to meet again before year’s end, which will work out well with Catholic Charities proposed two (2)
month extension.
Ms. Baker suggested the committee wait for a time before they do any more grant funding. She said it
might be useful to know whether the projects they’ve already funded have come to fruition and if they’ve
been beneficial. She stated they could possibly learn something from and would be helpful in
determining whether they’ve been on the right track or whether they should be going in a different
direction.
Ms. Wrisley made a statement in response to Ms. Baker indicating that with the Encina Auto Plaza, they
could have additional funds, which may make it better to fund with a bigger sum of money than to
disburse smaller amounts of money over time.
Mr Alfrey agreed with Ms. Baker and Ms. Wrisley in that the committee has distributed almost 80% of
the funds and the committee should give those projects time to develop and gather feedback on them
before the committee recommends funding other projects.
By consensus, the committee will meet again before the end of 2008 if there is an agreement that the
committee will give Catholic Charities an opportunity revise their project and subsequently return to the
committee. This will also give the committee a chance to evaluate the projects they have already
funded.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Chris Calkins representing the Carlsbad Flower Fields presented a cymbidium that the committee
funded through award of grant funding. He urged the committee not to defer for too long, and
encouraged the committee to consider soliciting additional grants. He mentioned that the Carlsbad
Flower Fields has a project. He mentioned problems affecting agriculture such as the water crisis at the
state and our county levels in particular. Mr. Calkins is aware of the significant benefits of remaining
agriculture. He urged grant funding for a Carlsbad Flower Fields project that would make better use of
potable and recycled water without treatment that would help them avoid salt build-up. Jackie Stone
asked if Mr. Calkins had done experimenting with using any desalinated water. He indicated that the
desalinated water would be blended in and wouldn’t be detrimental.
Andy Mauro, representing Audubon Society watershed project, expressed the Society’s appreciation for
the funding they received from this committee. He indicated that they are considering a project for
which they would like to obtain funding assistance. This project is the Buena Vista Creek Watershed
Management Plan.
ITEM 8: POTENTIAL FUTURE MEETING DATES
By consensus, the committee agreed to meet again on November 17, 2008 at 1:00 p.m.
Chairperson Larson clarified that in deference to comments heard at the meeting, subsequent meetings
are to contain an item to discuss additional grant solicitation.
ITEM 10: ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Larson adjourned the meeting at 1:45 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
Carol A. Cruise, Minutes Clerk