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Home My WebLink About2006-05-16; Citizens Committee to Study Flower Fields and Strawberry Fields Area Ad Hoc; Minutes 1 City of Carlsbad Citizens’ Committee to Study the Flower Fields and Strawberry Fields Area Summary Notes of Meeting #1 May 16, 2006, 9 a.m. to 12 p.m., City of Carlsbad, 1635 Faraday Avenue, Room 173B Present: Committee members: (*non-voting members) Pete Aadland Vern Farrow Kip McBane Jill Agosti Bob Garcin Gina McBride Jennifer Benner Courtney Heineman* Robert Morgan Chris Calkins* Gary Hill Eric Munoz Nancy Calverley* Mark Johnson Peder Norby Marvin Cap Pat Kurth Seth Schulberg Claudia Carrillo* Keith Lewinger Daniel Swiger Bill Dominguez Cary Manning Mark Winkler Farrah Douglas Len Martyns Present but not officially appointed to the committee until City Council meeting of 5/16/06: Leslie Meyerhoff Laura Means Pope Absent: Marvin Sippel* Heidi Willes City of Carlsbad Staff: Gary Barberio – Principal Planner Karen Chen – Management Analyst Courtney Enriquez – Management Intern Cynthia Haas – Economic and Real Estate Manager Sandra Holder – Community Development Director Bob Johnson – Deputy City Engineer, Transportation Barbara Nedros – Administrative Secretary Mark Steyaert – Park Development Manager Jane Mobaldi – Assistant City Attorney Michael Holzmiller – Former City Planning Director, Consultant to City 9 public/other Facilitators from National Conflict Resolution Center: Robin Seigle Lisa Maxwell Notetaker: Christina Simokat 2 he community pertise ance of open space and property rights hance access excellent city planning ity of Car o say their job and their role with the Committee (see above). lopment Director I. Overview of Purpose: Mayor Pro Tem Matt Hall ¾ Purpose of this committee is to study the ballot initiatives ¾ There has been a history of citizen input committees to study growth, open space, trees, sidewalks, and preservation issues. Goals: • Review the properties, background and history • Review ballot measures • Receive public input with detailed presentations • Make an objective comparison • At the end, make recommendations II. Introductions of Committee Members and Staff: Lisa Maxwell and Robin Seigle (NCRC) Committee members asked to say their name, their occupation and one sentence about their interest in serving on the committee. List of committee members’ interests in participating in this process: • History of community • Objectivity and neutrality of process • Future of Carlsbad • Care about city Protect and reali• stic view point •To voice opinions • To have a voice in the process and results • To add to the process • To serve/give back to t • To contribute knowledge, technical ex • Strong belief in citizen participation • Orderly development of city with bal • Quality of life • Preserve and en • Balance • Continue • Opportunity C lsbad staff asked t I. Purpose and Scope of Committee: II Sandra Holder, Community Deve 1. Review background of the properties 2. Review proposed ballot measures 3. Receive public input – including detailed presentations from ballot measure proponents 4. Prepare an independent and objective comparison 5. Other potential recommendations ix week meeting timeframe S Report out by not later than July 18, 2006 Environmental review (CEQA) Financial Analysis (9212 report) 3 IV. Process and Procedures: Robin Seigle and Lisa Maxwell (NCRC) t meeting to replace two of and agreement on NCRC ground rules entioned by Holder), which would be ll estion to have voting record to determine how much consensus there is. Record o and minority o ere be more than one minority report? factual report, not opinion ¾ Que o ey Mobaldi st: several members of this committee are ex officio members who will not stion: How will this committee’s information be used, especially when there are already formation from these public meetings will be available on the City of Carlsbad website ¾ There will be two new committee members (noted above) at the nex who resigned. ¾ Overview ¾ Question: Regarding the potential minority report (m produced in the event that consensus is not reached. If someone dissents within the group, they wi be asked to explain their view. Need to define what will constitute a majority. ¾ Comments: o Sugg to include number of committee members for and against, not names? Try to achieve complete consensus on the report, inclusive of majority views. Could th o The first product of this committee should be a sti n: Is this committee subject to the Brown Act? Yes, Assistant City Attorn answered that this is a meeting, which falls under the Brown Act, and this means that the public is invited to attend these meetings and members of the committee are not allowed to discuss the issues outside of the meetings. ¾ Conflicts of intere be voting. ¾ Que measures on the ballot? Holzmiller answered, to provide information to the City Council and the public. In www.carlsbadca.gov/chall ¾ Question: Will this committee be able to affect the wording of the City ballot initiatives? lzm e now setting up to have a minority report when we should be aiming to produce o too much polarization, and some think that the discussion o xplanation: with complete consensus, one person can block it. It is g, not o for o l. os and cons for each of the Ho iller answered that it is possible to still affect the wording of the City’s potential initiative. ¾ Comments: o We ar an objective comparison. Some feel there is already of consensus is premature and setting them up as pro and con and is too much pressure. Facilitator e generally helpful to determine the standards for decision making at the beginnin at the time the decision is being made. Possibilities are: complete consensus, general consensus – those that don’t go along with the consensus can do a minority report, voting requiring a majority or some percentage, eg. 60/40, 70/30, 75/25, or other Members of this committee should set aside their personal opinions about the issue these meetings and analyze the initiatives objectively The committee was convened to advise the city counci o The committee was convened to provide a neutral list of pr initiatives, and that if additional recommendations surface, then those can also be presented to the city council. 4 uture meeting schedule F : er cannot attend a meeting, Barbara Nedros, City of Carlsbad, (760) 602 0, ¾ If a committee memb 271 bnedr@ci.carlsbad.ca.us, can arrange for them to listen to the audio tape. A room will be made available at the City offices As determined by the Committee, meetings will be as follows: 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. at the City of Carlsbad, 1635 Faraday, Room 173B Tuesday, May 30, 2006 Tuesday, June 6, 2006 Thursday, June 15, 2006 Tuesday, June 20, 2006 Tuesday, June 27, 2006 July 11 tentatively held as backup meeting e report lection of Chair and Vice Chair July 18 tentatively held for final work on th E : ember be the Chair/Vice-Chair? Group can decide according embers include: Chris Calkins, Nancy Calverley, Claudia Carrillo, Courtney Heineman re the ex-officio members actually members of the committee? Yes, they are mb he Committee elected: ¾ Question: Can a non-voting m to Assistant City Attorney Mobaldi. Group voted no, a non-voting member cannot be a Chair or Vice-Chair. Non-voting m and Marvin Sippel. ¾ Question: A me ers, but they are non-voting, according to the Assistant City Attorney Mobaldi. T Chair: Eric Munoz Vice-Chair: Kip McBane V. Notebook Review – Michael Holzmiller he notebook is available to the public at the Carlsbad libraries, at the Public Counter at the Faraday tatus of the existing ballot initiatives en Space Initiative of 2006 -- signatures are being gathered d berry Fields, Open Space and Public Trails Protection Act of 2006 -- City Council will be looking at that this evening (May 16, 2006). T Center, 1635 Faraday Avenue, the City Manager’s Office and each committee member has one. S 1. Carlsbad Gateway Parkland and Op 2. Save the Strawberry and Flower Growing Fields Act of 2006 -- signatures collected and submitte and currently under review 3. The Flower Fields, Straw 5 plant be involved in this property ? Holzmiller answered that this will have to be reviewed, but that he believes the pipeline is authority on site 4 so any plan would have to be reviewed by e Coastal Commission. authority on the Mello II sites. (Sites I, II & III) anged, so if any of the allot initiatives are voted for by the voters, the Coastal Commission will have to review them, and initiatives do not have to go through environmental review, but city itiatives do. Citizen initiatives require signatures, whereas city initiatives do not. roup decides that public comment will be restricted to 3 minutes, except for presentations. UPP ffers to hold one-on-one study sessions for committee members, requests guidelines for le to hange the city government center from the Faraday area to the strawberry/flower fields area? Is ensity caps are being changed and will affect current property owners’ use of their land. He eeting rather than at the end of the meetings. except for the meeting that focuses on presentations from the proponents of the initiatives and o ntative requests that their property be referred to as “SDG&E” rather than the “strawberry fields” as that name is misleading and creates an emotional reaction. otes prepared by NCRC staff. ¾ Question: Will the pipeline for the potential desalinization on site 4 located in the Cannon Road ROW. The city does not have coastal permit th The city does have permit All the measures involved will require that the Local Coastal Program be ch b will have the final authority. Holzmiller noted that citizens’ in VI. Public Comments G 1. Ramona Finnila, coordinator for Carlsbad Citizens for Usable Public Places (CCUPP): CC o presentations, requests a copy of the notebook, and requests review of state regulation 9212. 2. Dan Conway, no group affiliation. Glad to see this process happening. What is the rationa c there a conflict of interest in the city structuring a review process of this site when it will benefit? 3. Mike Bovenzi: A previous citizens’ committee recommended preserving these areas already. D requests that all committee members watch city council proceedings this evening. VI. Committee Member Comments: o Request that public be able to speak earlier in the m o Another requested that the public comment period be restricted to a maximum of 20 minutes, public input. SDGE represe N