HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-02-23; Housing and Redevelopment Advisory Committee Ad Hoc; MinutesDATE OF MEETING: February 23, 1981
TIME OF MEETING: 7:OO P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: Council Chambers '
CALL TO ORDER was made by Chairman Chriss at 7:Ol P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present - Chairman Chriss, Members Ward, Hall, Runzo, Carney,
Sanchez, and Helton.
Member Hayes arrived at 7:03 P.M.
Absent - Member Mariz.
Also present were Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney:
Jack Henthorn, Director; and Drew Aitken.
2. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
Chairman Chriss indicated he had a conflict of interest on
the first two development plans, and turned the chair over to
Vice-chairman Hall.
Joe's Transmission
A brief staff report was presented by Drew Aitken. With the
aid of wall exhibits, he outlined the project location and'
description.
After brief Committee discussion, Vice-chairman Hall inquired
if there was any public input.
The Cmittee recognized Mr. Don Brown, Chamber of Commerce,
who expressed his support, on behalf of the Chamber, in the.
need for housing above businesses. He added that it
assisted in reducing crime, and allows people to be aware of
what goes on in the buildings and facilities.
The Committee then recognized Mr. Harold Clark, who
indicated he was in favor of having second-story residential
units, in that it allowed presence after dark. .
The Committee found the proposal consistent with the Village
Design Manual, and approved same, subject to conditions
listed in the report; and further, that the Committee does
reaffirm its position on this issue to the Planning Commission
Killian Block 2nd Story
The staff report was given by Drew Aitken, essentially as
contained in the analysis.
Mr. Aitken then introduced Bob Nielson, representing the
property owner, and partial bwrre-r of the property. With the
aid of wall exhibits, he briefly outlined the master plan.
Mr. Nielson explained that the plans have been submitted to
the various City Departments, and they have not received any
adverse comments to the remodeling of the second story.
Mr. Nielson further explained the applicant's proposal to
remodel the existing commercial building. He added that the
overall development would not be completed for approximately
seven years, and stated the biggest problem at this time was
the inability to establish a parking district downtown.
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Member Ward inquired.if the applicant has pursued an
arrangement with the Chamber of Commerce and the City on the
parking across the alley. Mr. Nielson explained the chain of
events that took place, prior to the matter being turned over
to ,the. Chamber of Commerce.
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Member Ward indicated that he would like to see a proposal,
that shows in more detail the master plan, as to how the
parking can be maximized on-site, and still maintain optimum
utili.zation. Mr. Ward added that the Committee would then be
in a better position in providing additional' parkiBg, through
a parking district.
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Member Hayes expressed concern over the south wall, in it's
present state. She stated that if Joe's Transmission's
present building is converted into office space, and if the
south wall continues to show as it is; and further if the
remainder of the corner is utilized for parking, she feels
it will create a landscaping problem.
In response, Mr. Neilson explained that there is a proposed
landscaping plan for Joe's Transmission, however, the
Committee has not yet been provided with same. He further
explained that they are also concerned with the blank south
wall, and are interested in co-sponsoring, along with the
Chmer of Commerce, a contest of graphic design for the
wall. He also indicated an award would be presented for the
best design, and the design would be,placed on the.wdl1.
Member Ward then suggested for Committee consideration, a
loan of the parking area across the alley, to this project on
an interim basis. Mr. Ward explained it could be a loan for
credit, for his interim improvements, and applied to this
property. In exchange for this, he suggests that the
applicants consider utilizing the entire corner, which is
presently Joe's Transmission, as a parking area similar to
the one at State and Grand, that the City provided.
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Jack Henthorn suggested that the busi-nesses that front on *
Elm Avenue be asked if they had any objections to the area
going to Mr. Nielson, since it was put to the general use Of
the merchants in the area. Staff then reiterated their
recommendation, in that the applicant submit the master plan
for their review.
The Committee recognized Mr. Don Brown' from the Chamber of
Coverce, who explained there are people who park in their
parking lot on a regular basis, however, they do not use the
alley. Mr. Brown stated that the space on the Chamber's side
of the alley is not being utilized.
The Committee then recognized Mrs. Olivia Fiamengo, Vice-
President of' Carlsbad Camera l'nc.
her business has a parking lot to the rear, which they use
in conjunction with three other occupants in the building,
and she indicated that there is not ample parking for their
normal day of affairs. She further explained that her concerr
was with the plans for Joe's Transmission; in that she would
like to see it be utilized for parking.
A motion was made to refer this matter back to Staff,
allowing Staff to work with the applicant, and bring same
back to the Committee in two weeks.
Mrs. Fiamengo explained
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Vice-chairman Hall turned the chair over to Chairman Chriss.
Arcade C.U.P,
A brief staff report was presented by Drew Aitken. Staff
further indicated that they have visited another of the
applicant's operations in Pacific Beach, and the applicant
has also furnished copies of the proposed rules for the
arcade.
Member Hayes expressed con'cern over the restroom facilities,
and over the comments she had received from a member of the
police department. Staff responded they felt it was one
member's comments, as they do not know what the Departmental
position is at this time. However, Staff has spoken with. the
Chief of Police on the matter.
The Committee then recognized Mr. Z. P. Kahnamoui, 5338 Mt.
Burnham, San Diego, the applicant. In response to Committee
inquiry, Mr. Kahnamoui explained that he would be providing
bicycle parking at the rear exit door.
Megnber Ward expressed concern over security for the applicant'
neighboring businesses. Mr. Kahnamoui made reference to his
arcade business in Pacific Beach, and stated that he felt
it depended largely on the type of management, as to whether
or not one would have to deal with problems such as security
for his neighbors. In response to the inquiry referace the
availability of restrooms, Mr. Kahnamoui explained that since
the arsade would not offer the purchase of any types of
drinks, he was not required to furnish restrooms. Also, in
response to the Committee's concern over the potential
problem of loitering, the applicant responded that once the
customers leave the arcade, they will be required to fully
vacate the immediate area.
Member Hall inquired as to the length of the CUP. The
Assistant City Attorney responded that the Planning
Commission has been requiring a review period very early on
suspect uses, i.e., usually after a year, with a provision
for renewal if there are no problems. Mr. Hentschke
explained that it was totally discretionary on the part of . the Planning Commission.
Mr. Kahnamoui explained that anyone wishing to use the arcade
would be required to fill out brief applications and would be
. issued membership cards. He added that the arcade would be
off limits to children during school hours, and any unusual
circumstances would be reported and confirmed with, the parents
The Committee recognized Mrs. Olivia Fiamengo, Vice-president
of Carlsbad Camera Inc. Mrs. Fiamengo stated her biggest
concern was with the parking and traffic problems, both
vehicle and pedestrian. Additional concerns are loitering,
and she does not feel the cl'ienkele from the arcade will be
mature enough for the applicant to totally control, and this
also causes concern over security. Mrs. Fiamengo further
explained there are currently problems with noise control,
and electrical wiring, and feels the addition of machines in
an arcade would only compound the problem.
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The Committee recognized Mr. Bob Nielson, who expressed his
concern over the parking problem in the downtown area, and
the potential loitering problem.
The Committee then recognized Mr. Harold Clark, who
expressed his agreement with Mrs. Fiamengo and Mr. Nielson.
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A motion was made to.forward this matter-to the Planning
Commission for their action, and request that they consider
the following in their deliberation: First, that a report
be submitted by the Building Department’ regarding electrical
services and power in the building; Secondly, that the
security €or the other tenants in the building and the
neighborhood be considered; Third, the loitering problem be .
addressed; Fourth, the parking problem, specifically bicycle
parking be considered; and lastly, if the Commission does
take positive a.ction, that there be a time specific for the
CUP on a trial basis, and that it not be open-ended.
The motion failed due to lack of a majority.
A motion was made that the Committee consider that an arcade
is not an improper use for the redevelopment area, but that
this particular location may not be adequate; and it i-s
requested that this be considered by the Planning Commission.
RECESS
Chairman Chriss called a recess at 8:58 P.M., and the
Committee reconvened at 9:08 P.M., with eight members present.
3. JACK-IN-THE-BOX.
A brief staff report was presented by Drew Aitken, whQ
explained that the problem was with the drive-thru arrangement-,
However, Staff, along with the Planning Staff have reached
an adequate compromise, and they will be meeting with Jack-In-
The-Box representatives on February 24, 1981. After the
meeting Staff will meet with a Planning Commissioner and a
member of this Committee to resolve the issue, and go back
to the Planning Commission for final resolution. Mr. Aitken
indicated Staff would come back to the Committee with a
report also.
Chairman Chriss appointed Member Ward to’ the Special
Committee in the Jack-In-The-Box matter. Member Ward
accepted the appointment.
The Committee and Staff bxiefly discussed the two alternatives
to the access issue, and the drive-thru arrangement.
4. MCCARTHY PARKING STRUCTURE..
A brief staff report was presented by Drew Aitken.
Member Hayes indicated she had submitted a parking structure
plan from the City of San Clemente to Staff., and suggested
that it also be forwarded to the Chamber of Commerce. Staff
concurred. .
The Committee directed Staff to forward this item to the
Chamber of Commerce, along with the plan Member Hayes
submitted .-
5. COMMITTEE RE-APPOINTMENTS.
A brief staff report was presented by Drew Aitken, who
indicated this was an information item only, and npted the
expiration of several member appointments.
. Chairman Chriss requested the Committee consider the appoint-
ment of a new Chairman.
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6. CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Chairman Chriss indicated that Dan Hentschke, the Assistant
City Attorney would make this presentation.
Dan Hentschke gave a brief report on the status of the
Conflict of Interest Code, and explained that it had been
adopted by all other Departments. He further explained that
it is an amendment, in effort to avoid having to go through.
further amendments in the future.
.A motion was made to adopt the Conflict of Tnterest Code, and
forward same to the City Council for approval.
7. MONTHLY BUILDING REPORT.
At the request of the Committee, the reports were submitted
by t-he Building Department, and Drew Aitken gave a brief
report on same.
8. LIGHTING IN PARKING AREAS.
After brief Committee discussion, a motion was made that a
letter of recommendation be forwarded to the City Council, to
establish appropriate requirements for lighting of private
and public parking lots that remain open after dark.
The motion was subsequently withdrawn, and the item tabled
to the'next workshop meeting.
9. BY-LAWS: COMMITTEE ATTENDANCE, CHAIR SELECTION, AND
RE-APPOINTMENTS.
Jack Henthorn explained that this item was brought forward
due to the fact that the Committee will be looking at new
Committee members, and possibly a new chairman, and he
suggested that the Committee might refer to the By-Laws
relative to meeting attendance, and appointment of a Chairman.
The Assistant City Attorney expressed concern over committee
attendance, and after brief discussion, it was suggested that
this item be tabled to the next workshop meeting.
10. ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF WORKSHOP MEETING OF JANUARY 19, 198
Minutes of the Workshop Meeting, held January 19, 1981, were
approved as corrected.
11. ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF MEETING OF JANUARY 26. 1981.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting, held January 26, 1981, were
approved as corrected.
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NEW BUSINESS
Member Hayes requested that on projects for Committee
consideration, they be given the address, along with the
lot number, to make the location easier to find.
OLD BUSINESS
Chairman Chriss requested the Committee decide on a date for
the workshop, and the items to be discussed.
Member Ward suggested that the Committee begin working on
the evaluation and re-study of the parking in the downtown
area. Jack Henthorn responded that to his knowledge, the
study was completed and forwarded to the Chamber of Commerce.
The Committee then directed Member Ward,'as Chairman of the
Chamber Committee and redevelopment, to follow up on this
matter, and report back at the next workshop.
Member Runzo suggested for Committee consideration that a
sign.be placed on the new parking lot on,State Street,
designating same.
The Committee set the workshop meeting for Monday, March 9,
1981 at 4:OO P.M., and tentatively set the place for the
workshop at the Chamber of Commerce; the following items to
be discussed:
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1 - The Development Plan on State Street.
2 - Report back from Member Ward in refekence to parking.
3 - Lighting Ordinance
4 - Committee By-Laws
5 - Staff will bring forward Unfinished Business, and
have a report'on the status of each item.
ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned to the Workshop
Meeting dn Monday, March 9, 1981, at 4:OO P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
Ann R. Alleman
Minutes Clerk
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