HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-02-27; Housing and Redevelopment Advisory Committee Ad Hoc; Minutesc . MINUTES
Time 0; Meeting: 2:OO p.m. ( Workshop 1
Date of Meeting: February 27, 1989
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
Meet ins of: HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Densham called the Workshop to order at 2:22 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chairman Densham, Committee Members Hayes,
Helton, McCoy, Mikhael, Palmesi and Rombotis.
Member McMahon arrived at 2:35 p.m.
Absent: Member Norby.
Staff Present:
Chris Salomone, Director of Housing & Redevelopment
Patty Cratty, Senior Management Analyst.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
There were no requests to address the Committee.
NEW BUS I NESS/ I NFORMAT I ONAL:
1. REDEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN.
Chairman Densham stated that the Housing and
Redevelopment Plan and its accompanying documents have
been in effect in 1981. This Committee feels that
sfgnlficant progress has been made in the Redevelopment
Area.
two years old at this time, the Committee would like to
have an evaluation of the Redevelopment Area. This
would focus on projects, activities and philosophies
and identify parcels of land and what they can be best
used for and ancillary things about the Redevelopment
Area. This master plan is not to address capital items
but events and qua I ity of 1 i fe items.
Since reports by consultants are approximately
Chris Salomone explained that the Redevelopment Area
has been fortunate and has experienced success and
everyone feels it has a very bright future. He said it
is felt it will become economically successful. The
Redevelopment Area has the location and the money and
it is not built out. This is an opportunity to look at
the Redevelopment Plan and try to address where the
area will be eight to ten years from now. He said the
Committee wants to find out what would make this a
world-class City and keep what is valuable and develop
the opportunities that exist.
Mr. Salomone stated he had invited three firms to make
presentat ions today; O'Connor; POD, Inc. - Frank Brower; and P & D
Technologies - Gary Wood and Arnold Torma.
Aust i n/Hansen/Feh 1 man - Pat
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MEMBERS \I
Pat O'Connor, Austin/Hansen/Fehlman, gave his
presentation first; using slides and stating that the
Redevelopment Area is adjacent to the coast and
bordered on the north and south by a lagoon, and 1-5 to
the east. He said the front door should be along the
ocean, and talked about districts and streets,
identifying the artwork that will serve as gateways into
the City along Carlsbad Boulevard.
Mr. O'Connor discussed changes in land use planning and
densities.
master plan have more meetings over a shorter period of
time .
He suggested the committee working on the
Mr. O'Connor said the plan must be realistic and focus
on the specific goal of the project. A vision must be
established, amd this should involve everyone who has
some stake with the plan.
RECESS:
Chairman Densham called a recess of the Workshop at
2:54 p.m., and announced it was Marty Orenyak's 50th
Birthday---and everyone joined in singing "Happy
Birthday". The Workshop re-convened at 2:56 p.m., with
eight members present.
WORKSHOP: (Continued)
Frank Brower, POD, Inc., gave his presentation, using
two charts, one showing the process and one showing the
structure of the team.
the Members.
He supplied copies of these to
Gary Wood and Arnold Tormer represented P & D
Technologies. They spoke of the images, process and
philosophies, and said this was more of a strategic
plan rather than a master plan.
Mr. Wood said that streets, parking and utilities were
important issues. He mentioned the commuter rail and
that the sites had been identified where the stations
might be. The parking needs to be appropriate and also
meet the needs of the retail community, so you do not
overbuild.
Mr. Wood said it was important to have recognition of
the issue of goal conflicts and identify them--and then
resolve them--such as increased density vs village, or
ample parking without destroying the streetscape.
Mr. Wood also said that an analysis should be attempted
to see where the money was going on the public side and
what money was from the private side--to show the cash
flow.
Chairman Densham said it was necessary to identify how
what the Redeveopment Area does affects the rest of the
city.
Chris Salomone stated one of the concerns of Carlsbad
was the over-build in the other communities and that
was why it was necessary to update their program now.
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Mr. Salomone said there has been talk about corridors
and linking the lagoons together--also about blending
residential and commerical together and what would be
the result of that--and these are issues to be studied.
Member Hayes stated she wanted the area to be "safe"--
as someone who lives in the Redevelopment Area, she
wants people there and for it to not be empty and to
have a "townness" feel and preserve that feeling.
In answer to question as to whether to have the RFP on
all objectives, or just focus on one at a time, Mr.
Wood said it should happen together; economics, design,
transportation, pedestrian, urban design issue,
infrastructures, with a team of specialists. He said
future planning should be tested against economics,
also against infrastructure capacity.
Member Palmesi commented that there are a lot of
seniors in that area and felt the designers should be
flexible to changes.
Chairman Densham said seniors would be important as
well as pedestrians.
Chris Salomone said that the questions to be answered
included a need for location of parking structures; the
theatre value needs to be assessed; a transportation
center is in the offing--in the railroad right-of-way--
and they need to know the impact of that.
to be a public land inventory, including the land
available to Redevelopment or owned by them, and what to
do with that land; this is in addition to the railroad
right-of-way.
There needs
Mr. Salomone said as to land use, housing is a clear
message, and the desire is to get permanent residents
downtown--not just low income. He said that questions
as to how to address that and how to encourage and
where, needed to be answered.
Mr. Salomone said the barrio area is something to be
studied and how to maintain its culture; tourism as a
goal and the local economy, and what is the balance.
Mr. O'Connor said they also need to study how to extend
the downtown area to the other side of 1-5.
Member Rombotis said they need to talk about "people"--
we want to have people safe and able to come to the
downtown area--and live there.
Chris Salomone said he would like to build off of the
successful events held downtown.
Mr. Wood said what do you want to be happening downtown-
-what events.
mapped out.
A program for downtown needs to be
Chairmana Densham said that the Redevelopment Plan
needs fine-tuning and specific items should be
addressed.
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Chris Salomone said he wanted a rendering of where the
Redevelopment Area was going--a visual perception. He
said there will be amendments to the Manual and those
will become an Ordinance.
Mr. O'Connor suggested tailored zoning might be
considered.
Member McMahon stated she agreed with the progress the
City is making in Redevelopment; but she wanted to
fine-tune the areas around the Redevelopment Area--and
being accessible safely.
Member Hayes said her fear is of Elm Avenue--and that
instead of being something easy to cross, it might
become a barrier for south/north movement. Mr.
O'Connor said with the installation of the traffic
signals, Elm should become easier to cross. It will
also be more inviting to walk in that area with the
additional lighting to be installed.
Member McCoy said the problems on design without
adequate guidelines--types of designs permitted or not--
he felt guidelines were needed.
Chairman Densham suggested the merchants have input in
design; also, the barrio should have representatives.
He said the key item was specific input from the Design
Review Board, Planning and Engineering staffs.
Member Helton said a master plan is needed and then
information as to what can be done in certain areas--
and designate what can be done in certain areas.
Member Mikael said she wanted the outside areas
included--expanding the Redevelopment Area. Mr.
Salomone indicated that could only be done by creating
another Redevelopment Area.
Member Palmesi said Tyler Street is unsafe to walk in
the daytime or nighttime----and there are a lot of
seniors in that area. It is dangerous and needs to be
studied for improvement.
Marty Bouman stated that there is talk about a
pedestrian-oriented village and one that is a pleasure
and fun to walk around in or leave your vehicle some
place and shop and work and play there. He said the
problem is the trips involved in bringing people to th-
village--they don't start on foot. The automobile is the
only way to there--lacking good public transportation--
and balancing that with the pedestrian-oreiented
commercial and recreational areas and still making
provisions for getting there and storing the automobile
and then having access to it when it is time to leave---
is the problem--but it can be done. However, the main
access is Elm Avenue.
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Mr. Wood suggested the work scope should be to start
at a high altitude and work your way down to the local
area and consider the lagoon to lagoon and coast to Is-
5. The philosophy of the consultant is to prepare the
City's Redevelopment Area master plan and help the City
birth that plan and also his job is to be instrumental
in identifying and resolving goal conflicts or dilemmas-
-for example--installing stop lights to slow down
traffic to allow pedestrian crossings is very good--
but it may have a down side--congestion and air
pollution. Implementation has to be part of it--how and
in what order--and that may tell the plan what to do.
The comment was made that the task force would be
important in its role in the process and
communications.
2. Who will serve as review committee?
Chairman Densham said the Long-range Planning Sub-
Committee of the Housing and Redevelopment Committee
would serve as the core of this group. ( Hayes, Norby
and Densham) At their meetings the main object would
be to have the various represented areas--with the
primary function to aid in writing the RFP and selection
of consultant. A representative from the barrio;
merchants; seniors; a citizen-at-large (active community
involvement in other parts of the City); Council and/or
City staff should be included and the group should hold
regular meetings and be well-organized.
Member Rombotis said the Design Review Board should be
represented, with input from Planning and Engineering.
Mr. O'Connor suggested two groups--to break it down
into smaller groups.
Discussion on how many from Design Review Board
determined that Members McCoy and Rombotis felt one
Member enough. Members McCoy and Rombotis could
alternate, if necessary. They felt they share the same
viewpoint and could compare notes.
3. What will the process be?
Chris Salomone said staff should be directed to draft
an RFP and meet with the Long-Range Planning Sub-
Committee and establish a budget, and make
recommendations to the Housing and Redevelopment
Commission.
Housing and Redevelopment Advisory Committee directed
staff to draft an RFP and meet with the Long-range
Planning Sub-committee; establish a budget and make
recommendations to the Housing and Redevelopment
Commission.
Member Hayes asked how the information would get out to
those not on the Long-range Planning Sub-committee and
consensus of the Committee was to have weekly meetings
and send the minutes to the individual Committee
Members through Chris Salomone.
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Staff was directed to have the minutes of the Master
Plan Committee provided to each Committee Member as
soon as possible after the meetings and to be receptive
to input and questions as to what went on at the
meetings. Also, there are to be reports at the regular
meetings of the Advisory Committee.
ADJOURWENT :
By proper motion, the Workshop was adjourned at 4:55
p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
CHRIS SALOMONE
Housing and Redevelopment Director
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk