HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-04-24; Narcotics and Drug Study Committee Ad Hoc; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD
Minutes of: NARCOTICS and DRUG STUDY COMMITTEE
Date of Meeting: April 24, 1969 (Thursday)
Time of Meeting: 7:00 P.M.
Place of Meeting: City Manager's Conference Room
PRESENT: Carl H. Neiswender, Councilman and Chairman
Douglas Deason, Secy., rep. Carlsbad High School
Capt. Wallace Rossall, Carlsbad Law Enforcement
Dr. Harvey Tuomi and Dr. Reid Binder.
ABSENT: Dr. E. R. Hertweck, Mira Costa Psychology Dept.
William E. Moore, rep. Carlsbad Union School Dist.
Rev. Larry DeWein
The minutes of the April 3 luncheon meeting were distributed and
Dr. Tuomi suggested that a few sentences be deleted from them.
Captain Rossall presented a new narcotics folder (Series No. 3)
and it was suggested that a quantity be ordered.
Cmn. Neiswender stated that this meeeting was called to evaluate
what was presented by Judge Vaughn at the last meeting. A copy
of the letter from the Justice Department regarding presenting
reports to the Regional Advisory Board will be mailed to each
committee member,
Mr. Deason discussed a new parent-child counseling program that the
Probation Department is sponsoring. Capt. Rossall also gave some
insight on the Pilot Program. A discussion was held as to how the
juveniles and their parents would be referred to any counseling group
Dr. Tuomi maintained that presently everything is operating in
San Diego whereas many services should be available in North County
and stated that there are three groups of students, i.e.
1. Those that will never use drugs because of morality
or religious background.
2. Those that are hardcore users.
3. The middle group, or those that may or may not.
Cmn. Neiswender reiterated that the Committee should now come up
with a progress report or a summary for presentation to the City
Counci1.
Mr. Deason stated that a recommendation had been made to add six
additional men to the Police Department and that the schools had
evaluated their program and have added new materials to strengthen
it.
Dr. Binder recalled that Dr. Tuomi had suggested a referral center
such as Vista has established (24 hour telephone answering service
for drug information). As yet no one knows how it is working out.
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Dr. Tuomi also suggested that someone from a service club hold a
workshop for a group of students.
Dr. Binder stated that we need something in-between as not every
person will appear before a court.
Mr. Deason mentioned that when the school's reach their limitation
of control, they refer the offender to a Psychiatrist or try to
obtain additional help. Mr. Deason also stated that there is much
unused talent in the community, such as retired professional people
or military wives who are not working but are trained to help. Dr.
Tuomi reported that Escondido's workshop is progressing and that
the majority of students are interested in this problem. Dr.
Tuomi suggested that the therapy group be comprised of members of the
Extension Department of the Probation Department. If we could be an
extension of the Probation Department, we could receive referrals
from them, but would have to have cooperation from them. We could
have sort of an out-patient therapy system.
Capt. Rossall stated that some students want a counseling service
away from home to seek advice, while others preferred to be able
to better communicate with their parents. Dr. Binder stated that
any kid 12 years or older is going to do what he wants to do and
parents can exert very little pressure. If there is a place where
students can reveal their problems, it might encourage some to seek
help before they are picked up by the Police.
Group counseling is much less liable to go sour than individual
counseling. Mr. Deason felt that when you use the community re-
source type situation, there is a problem of confidential material,
and Dr. Tuomi maintained that there will be a segment that will
have nothing to do with groups here, but then they can go to San
Diego.
Mr. Deason stated our first step should be to meet with Mr. Fare,
Chief Probation Officer in San Diego, and determine just how their
department would fit into our program. We should be prepared to
give Mr. Fare a thumbnail sketch of what we want to do.
Dr. Tuomi suggested for group counseling that we select people
who have a code of ethics, such as professional people, members
of the Police Department, etc. Mr. Deason thought it would be
easier to get started with an educational discussion group rather
than a Probation Department System.
Dr. Binder stated it is easier to get a small group started and
Mr. Deason remarked the "Maybes" are the ones that the school
would like to reach. Dr. Binder asked how we could get the
community better attuned to the fact that there is a problem.
How do you reach the person at home who will not attend meetings
or lectures?
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Dr. Tuomi stated that the forces against cigaret smoking have
some very good commercials on radio and TV and wondered whether
the American Cancer Society had anything available on drugs.
CBS had a special on marijuana and the public derived much in-
formation from it. Similar programs should be continued, as
the present format of TV is not of any great value.
Cmn. Neiswender will call Mr. Fare, Chief Probation Officer, and
invite him for lunch to meet with the Committee. He will give
him an option as to whether or not Mr. Sargent, who is an employee
in the Probation Department, will accompany him.
It was agreed
meeting until
by the Committee that there would
the Committee received a response
be no scheduled
from Mr. Fare.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 P.
Respectfully submitted,
Helen L i n d s 1 ey,
Recording Secretar