HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-12-06; Prop D Citizens Liaison Committee Ad Hoc; MinutesProp D Citizens Liaison Committee
Action Minutes
December 6, 2007
1635 Faraday Avenue, Carlsbad
Room 173A
Committee Present
Pat Kurth Jim Comstock
Farrah Douglas Bill Dominguez
Diane Lantz Mark Winkler (Alternate)
Gary Hill
Absent: Dan Livingston
City of Carlsbad Staff:
Sandra Holder – Community Development Director
Cynthia Haas – Economic and Real Estate Manager
Jane Mobaldi – Assistant City Attorney
Gary Barberio – Assistant Planning Director
Mark Steyaert – Park Development Planner
Barbara Nedros – Administrative Secretary
Michael Holzmiller – Consultant
Lewis Michaelson – Katz & Associates
1 public/other attendees
Meeting started at 9:00 a.m.
Lewis Michaelson congratulated the Committee for having standing room only for
participation at the Community Conversation held on December 3, 2007. It was noted
that approximately 150 people participated in the Community Conversation.
The committee listed all the criteria that they had discussed at previous Committee
meetings that would make a successful Community Conversation (workshop). The
following are some of those that were listed that they felt they had accomplished:
o Good background/Education process
o Lots of public participation
o Youth participation
o Diversity of participation
o Neutral environment
o New voices
o Quality input
o Momentum
It was decided that the video is an important piece for the process. It was suggested to
change the order of the video by placing the information about Prop D and the
properties first and the history second. It was also suggested that there did not need to
be quite so much time spent on the history.
The Committee thought that we should get an article out to “Thank you, Carlsbad” for
participating in the Community Conversations. Possibly in the following:
o Carlsbad magazine
o Other media (Coast News)
o Newsletters
Sandra Holder indicated that she would talk to Val Brown about creating a new video to
include Phase 1 and 2 and to add something in the beginning that says, “Thank you
Carlsbad”. Another possible outlet suggested was a poster that says “Thank you
Carlsbad” with the Continued Conversation dates listed that could be placed in the
libraries. It was also suggested that efforts be made to have articles placed in the
newspapers to get individuals interested in Phase II.
The Committee discussed the Continued Conversations and what they would cover. It
was suggested that the future Conversations could be organized around various groups
of stakeholders and/or topics, including Prop D property owners, adjacent property
owners, the agriculture community, and youth. In any case, it was agreed that such
decisions should not be finalized until the Committee receives a report and presentation
from Partners for Livable Communities after they have had the opportunity to review all
of the inputs from the two Community Conversations
There was much discussion regarding “place making” and what that meant in the
process. “Jane Mobaldi had concerns regarding “place making” in that she thought it
would constitute site design, which she believes is contrary to the purpose of Prop D
outreach which is to develop zoning concepts.” Others believed that there was room for
discussions of place making, even if the eventual outcome was to adopt zoning that
would accommodate the vision developed by the community process. Lewis
Michaelson indicated that it appeared different people had different definitions of what
“place making” is. He suggested Bob McNulty of Partners conduct a mini-workshop on
what place making is and is not at the Committee’s next meeting. The Committee
agreed that would be a useful topic and agreed to extend their next meeting length to
three hours.
Bill Dominguez indicated that the Committee also needed clarification on what the
CC&Rs of Carlsbad Ranch would allow and to make the public aware as well.
There was a question about the usable area on the SDG&E property. Michael
Holzmiller told the Committee that there is a total of 172 acres - 50 acres is for HMP –
90 acres is leased for Hub Park.
Claudia Carrillo, SDG&E Representative, told the Committee that SDG&E owns the
property but we are not a developer and have no plans to develop the property. We
have determined that the property is not needed for the business we are in and will
eventually sell the land in a manner that is most financially beneficial to our ratepayers.
That being said, we want to be good corporate citizens and are desirous in cooperating
and hearing the ideas and thoughts of the residents of Carlsbad. Ultimately, SDG&E will
need to do what is best for the ratepayers, but we hope to do that in a manner that is
most consistent with the desires of the residents of Carlsbad. SDG&E is aware that we
need to work cooperatively with the City of Carlsbad and we will continue to actively
participate in the Prop D process.
Next Steps
The date of January 17, 2008 was suggested for a next meeting. This meeting will be
about 3 hours from 9:00 a.m. to Noon. It was suggested that it be held in the Council
Chambers so that the meeting could be recorded. The Agenda for the next meeting will
be:
1) Report on the Community Conversations from Partners for Livable
Communities
2) Place making Education
3) Discuss Continued Conversations – Topics, Dates, Etc.
4) Presentation on Carlsbad Ranch Specific Plan
5) SDG&E Property Constraints
The Report from Partners for Livable Communities should contain Themes, Repetitive
uses, and top couple of items citizens did not want to see.
Public Comment
There was no public comment.
The meeting adjourned at 11:00 a.m.