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ARTS COMMISSION
11:00 a.m.
January 12, 1989
Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
Chairman Bear called the Meeting to order at 11:04 a.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present - Chairman Bear, Commissioners Brierley, Frye
and Straub.
Absent - Commissioners Bischoff, Meilach and Roston.
Staff Members Present: Connie Beardsley, Manager, Arts
Office
Clifford Lange, Library Director
Sue Spickard, Senior Coordinator
OLD BUSINESS;
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
Minutes of the November 9, 1988, meeting were approved
as presented.
Senior Center Artwork - for approval
Chairman Bear announced there would be a presentation by
the artist and then the members of the audience could
speak. He stated this art piece was selected by the
Selection Committee and he read the complete process from
a report prepared for the audience and the Commission.
Mr. Bear added that the Selection Committee unanimously
selected Christine Oatman's "A Flight of Butterflies" for
the Senior Center, and this was from 39 entries
submitted for review.
Chairman Bear said if the Arts Commission approved the
recommendation of the Selection Committee, the artist's
contract would go to the City Council for approval.
Chairman Bear concluded his remarks, stating that the
maquettes were on display for public comment for three
weeks at both the Senior Center and the Library. Of the
178 responses, Oatman received the most votes (81) for
her artwork.
Christine Oatman, the Artist for "A Flight of
Butterflies", presented a slide program showing
different works she has completed. Ms. Oatman explained
that working with many small pieces of sculpture gives
more flexibility than working with one large immobile
piece of sculpture.
Ms. Oatman stated the gallery area (or hallway) of the
Senior Center is a long and narrow area, and rises to a
height of about 25 feet. Her intent was to use the
entire space, rather than Just one spot against a wall.
The butterflies start small and become larger as they
progress down the hall.
Bear
Brierley
Frye
Straub
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Senior Center Artwork (continued)
Ms. Oatman referred to the triangular shapes in the
architecture of the building, and stated she had
repeated those shapes in her work. She also used the
same colors as both the outside of the building and
the interior.
The butterflies would start with a wing span of about two
feet and grow to five feet. They would be made of
fiberglass screening, to be seen through from one
direction, and be opaque from the other. She felt the
butterflies were a relevant symbol and an uplifting
concept.
Ms. Oatman explained the two shades of grey to be used
in triangles in the floor to reflect the shape of the
butterflies above.
Mary Casler, 3843 Highland, spoke in favor of the Oatman
selection, stating it was beautiful and had a meaning--
representing the change from a child into a senior.
This will lead eyes upward from one end of the building
to another, and there will be movement.
Mrs. Casler approved of leaving the walls of the gallery
vacant to place future art exhibits there.
Mrs. Casler concluded, stating this was an excellent job
and that she hoped the Arts Commission approved the
choice.
Louise Kirtland, Associate professor of Art, Palomar
College, complimented the Selection Committee and stated
her support of the process developed by this Commission.
She said Carlsbad has a well-defined set of guidelines
for selecting art work and one that takes into
consideration public opinion. She said it would be very
sad if a small, vocal minority caused this project to
not go through. This would jeopardize future public art
projects. Quality artists may not submit for future
projects if the process is not adhered to.
Ms. Kirtland urged the Commission to keep the process and
realize it is an important reason for the success of the
public art program.
Theresa Maggio, 2610 Unicornio, Senior Commissioner,
spoke in opposition to the art selection, stating it
would be a dust collector, and made her feel like a
child in a crib. She said the seniors need to watch
where they are stepping and not be looking up.
Ms. Maggio said she felt the building should be
completed first, and then the decision made for the art
work for the gallery.
David Castner, 1550 Sunrise Circle, stated he agreed
with three members of the Senior Commission who had
stated they did not like the butterflies.
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Senior Center Artwork (continued)
Mr. Castner said that over 500 people participate in the
Nutrition Program and a large number felt this was
inappropriate to decorate the Senior Center.
Mr. Castner said the people who use the Center were not
adequately represented on the Selection Committee, and
no one was on the Committee from the Nutrition Program.
Mr. Castner stated his objection to the use of
butterflies, stating this building was not a nursery or
a kindergarten. He suggested waiting until the building
was built and let it tell you what should be put there.
Linwood Van, Chairman of the Senior Commission, stated
that Mr. Castner, Ms. Maggio and he were all involved in
the design of the Senior Center. He expressed concern
for any hurt feelings, as he has the highest regard for
the members of the Selection Committee.
Mr. Van stated that personally he felt this art work did
not meet the objective or the criteria. He felt this
would collect dust and deteriorate.
Mr. Van stated the Senior Commission was divided in its
comments on the selection and he did not like this
concept.
Pat Feille, Carlsbad/Oceanside Art League, stated she
was on the Selection Committee and a great deal of
thought and time went into the selection of the art
work. This gallery area will be used by many people
other than the seniors and people will be able to look
down from the second floor and enjoy this art. Ms.
Feille commented on the total involvement of this art
work and added there will be a lot of space for art work
to be displayed in that gallery area.
Pat Hansen, 3514 Highland, stated she would be retiring
next year and intended to use the new Senior Center
often. She expressed her delight with the choice of the
Selection Committee, and said she would like to see the
walls of the gallery filled with exhibits of all sorts
of paintings and other art work, to be changed monthly.
Ms. Hansen stated her respect for the process this
Commission worked a long time to put into place, and
everything was considered in making this selection,
including the design of the building.
Doris Ritchie, 3379 Garibaldi Place, stated she is a
Senior Commissioner, in her second term, and was on the
Committee for the building as well as the art work. She
said it was critical for the art work to be put in at
this time, as the floor and the lighting has to be done
with the construction.
Ms. Ritchie said this is a dynamic piece of art and
when you walk into the Senior Center this would be a
living art environment. For those who can't look up,
there will be art on the floor.
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Senior Center Artwork (continued)
Ms. Ritchie concluded, asking everyone to not sell the
seniors short—that they can understand more than a
sandbox or a blue wave. The butterfly form is
considered one of God's greatest creations, and Ms.
Ritchie asked the Commission to select this for the
Senior Center.
Chairman Bear summarized, stating the Arts Commission
action was to accept or reject the recommendation of the
Selection Committee.
Commissioner Brierley stated he was on the Selection
Committee and he did have a concern about keeping the
butterflies clean. He felt this was uniquely different
and agreed this art work would flow throughout the
building. He added that all pieces submitted were
reviewed and discussed thoroughly before a decision was
made, and said that art is a very personal thing.
Connie Beardsley stated that maintenance was discussed by
the Selection Committee, and the artist used the
screening because it can be air-hosed and cleaned very
easily.
Commissioner Frye made a motion to accept the
recommendation of the Selection Committee. He stated he
thought it was vital to do this in advance to
incorporate it into the building. Commissioner Straub
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Straub stated that the maintenance concerns
had been answered; the concerns about being in a hurry
to select the art had been addressed, and she wanted to
expand on that.
Ms. Straub stated that one of the things this Commission
had been trying to encourage was to have artists come in
from the beginning and give their input. The Architects
appreciate that and she said she was delighted to see
that San Diego had incorporated this in their park In
the canyon. She said that addressed the question of "Why
now?"
Ms. Straub said that some people had said butterflies
were not appropriate—and she asked—why not? Some
people like one concept of art and others like another.
Another concern expressed was that the users were not
adequately represented—she felt that was the crux of
the issue. Some people will like the art work and some
will not—and through the years Ms. Straub said that
people have been known to change their minds—in both
directions—with regard to art pieces.
Ms. Straub stated that the selection process was arrived
at with thought, but if anyone had suggestions on how to
get into the heart of the population and come up with a
greater consensus, those suggestions would be happily
received. The Selection Committee did have an appointed
representative from the Senior Commission and the Senior
Center Committee. She felt the process had taken all
groups into consideration and the Committee worked very
hard on the selection. The choice has to be now, if it
is to be part of the building.
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Senior Center Artwork (continued)
Commissioner Straub stated she supported the process and
felt it needed to be honored.
Chairman Bear stated the Arts Commission had worked to
come up with a process for selection which was
responsive and took into consideration the citizenry of
Carlsbad. He said it was not perfect, but they had
gotten better citizen input. The maquettes and exhibits
were in the Library and the Senior Center and the public
did agree with the selection.
Mr. Bear asked for ideas from the public as this
Commission goes forward with future pieces in public
art, in order to get more representative viewpoints
from the community.
Commissioner Frye stated he was puzzled by the
statement that the majority of the seniors did not like
it. When the models were In the Library, a larger
number favored the proposal.
Linwood Van stated that the ages of those commenting on
the art work was not known, as far as the comments from
the Library.
Doris Ritchie said that the statement that the majority
of the seniors were not in favor was inaccurate, as
that was only the seniors on the Nutrition Program at
noon. She said there are many seniors in programs
there throughout the day, and she said they were in
favor of the selection. There is a diverse clientele
using the Senior Center, and every status is
represented—with the nutrition not the only ones being
served there.
Ms. Ritchie said this art work would attract more
seniors who are not coming to programs at this time and
would create an exciting environment.
Commissioner Brierley said there were comments about
the building being inappropriate just as there are
about the art selection, and time will tell whether the
design is proper and whether the art fits.
Arts Commission accepted the Selection Committee
recommendation for "A Flight of Butterflies" by
Christine Oatman, for the gallery area of the Senior
Center.
Chairman Bear suggested the Arts Commission try to get
on the agenda of the Senior Commission to present to
them the process this Commission has gone through and
work together to perfect that.
Commissioner Frye suggested that concentration not be
centered exclusively on the current seniors, but on
future seniors as well.
Bear
Brierley
Frye
Straub
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Grants - for approval
The Arts Commission made the following determinations
for grants:
Patrons of the Arts Foundation
Boys and Girls Club of Carlsbad
Carlsbad/Oceanside Art League
San Diego International Children's
Carlsbad Youth Theatre
North County Concert Association
Carlsbad High School
PATH
Carlsbad Community Band
Hope Elementary School
3's Company & Dancers
Festival
$4,000
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500
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1,500
2,000
1,000
2,000
3,000
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Commissioner Frye suggested having a Selection Committee
to study the grant requests and bring recommendations to
the Commission so that more time could be devoted to each
proposal. He suggested the item come back before the
Commission in August to consider formation of such a
Committee.
The Commission, by consensus, tabled the Temporary
Sculpture Exhibit report and the Guidelines for Public
Art to the February meeting.
This meeting will be continued on Monday, January 23,
1989, at 11:00 a.m., for a discussion on Goals and
Objectives and the budget.
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper motion, the Meeting of January 12, 1989, was
adjourned at 1:05 p.m., to Monday, January 23, 1989, at
11:00 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
CONNIE BEARDSLEY
Manager, Arts Program
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk