HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-05-07; Arts Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF: ARTS COMMISSION
TIME OF MEETING: 4:00 p.m.
DATE OF MEETING: May 7, 1992
PLACE OF MEETING: Safety & Service Center
CALL TO ORDER;
Chairperson Ladouceur called the Meeting to order at 4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present: Commissioners Ladouceur, Batter, Portera, Straub, Wood and Wrench.
Commissioner Spencer arrived at 4:30 p.m.
Absent: None.
Staff Member Present: Connie Beardsley, Arts Manager
Chairperson Ladouceur welcomed Arthur Wood, the new Arts Commissioner.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
On Motion by Commissioner Portera, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held
April 2, 1992, were approved as presented.
AYES; Ladouceur, Batter, Portera and Straub
ABSTAIN; Wood and Wrench
OLD BUSINESS;
SPLIT PAVILION
1. Presentation of Committee Report
Council Member Eric Larson gave the report for the Split Pavilion Ad
Hoc Committee, the members of which were Council Members Stanton and
Larson, Arts Commissioners Batter and Wrench, and David ~Sammons.
Mr. Larson stated the charge of the Ad Hoc Committee was to communicate
response to the artwork; seek a re-examination by the artist and the
subcommittee of the design and materials of the landscape plantings and
other issues, and seek the artist's cooperation in defining
artistically acceptable changes. The Committee met with Andrea Blum on
April 16, 1992, and held meetings on April 22, 1992, and May 4, 1992,
with the report of the Committee dated May 4, 1992.
Mr. Larson emphasized that the Committee was appointed to be a fact
finding group to determine what artistically acceptable changes could
be made. He said the subcommittee was not to "negotiate", but to
report on their findings.' Those findings of acceptable and not
acceptable changes as agreed to by Ms. Blum are listed in the final
report, but do not limit the Commission in formulating their
recommendation to the City Council. What the ultimate course of action
will be is to be decided by city Council. If some form of negotiated
settlement is required, then negotiations will be needed at that time.
Chairperson Ladouceur opened the meeting for public input at 4:10 p.m.
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Jerri Wolder, 5460 Carlsbad Boulevard, spoke in opposition to the Split
Pavilion, thanked the Arts Commission and City Council for the job they
are attempting to do. However, she felt that the Council and the
Commission are here to represent the citizens of Carlsbad. She has the
impression they are in favor of the artist and have not given
consideration to the citizens of Carlsbad. This is biased. People
have different view points and cannot agree on some works of art—and
that is stimulating to the mind. She said she was upset with the fact
that many of the people speaking in favor of keeping the Split Pavilion
give their art degrees, intimating that those without Art as a major
are stupid and ignorant and could not appreciate art. Ms. Wolder said
she resented that. She felt public rights were more important than
art, and felt that the meeting with the artist was not as public as it
should have been.
Ms. Wolder said she has been collecting petitions and has gone to the
beach quite a bit. People are flocking to the beach to see this, and
they are really amazed that Carlsbad would waste this money, and people
felt Carlsbad should not be held hostage by someone in New York. Those
people who want to tear the artwork down should realize that is
unlawful.
Ms. Wolder said her observation is that the area is dangerous—mainly
to children. They are climbing on the bars and running on the ice
plant. she was concerned about the dirty water in the ponds and the
danger of those ponds. If the City is sued, then the artist should be
sued, as it belongs to her. She said this would not grow on her or on
many others, and her patience is growing thin. Ms. Wolder asked that
the officials take some action and quit the game-playing. This is
entitled correctly—Split Pavilion—and it will not be over.
Debra Blair, 3100 Ocean Street #8, stated she is a teacher in the San
Marcos School District. She said the Commissioners should sit in the
park some weekend and listen to the people—then they would remove the
Split Pavilion quickly.
Val Gibson, 2425 Steven Circle, spoke in opposition to the park,
stating it is an insult to everyone and should be removed. She said
the publicity referred to $365,000—and didn't it cost 1.2 million
dollars?
Angelo Carli, 4235 Sunnyhill Drive, stated he was not speaking for or
against the Split Pavilion, but to offer the Commission any assistance
he could give in an effort to help the Commission find it easier to
find some kind of principle and reasonable judgment they are trying to
reach and not be swayed into political or popular decision-making. He
said that politics and popularity are subject to time—principle and
reason are not. He gave a history of works of art throughout the world
where the public opinion at first was not favorable, but with time
those different works of art have become symbols of our culture. He
gave the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C., as the latest example of
this.
Pamela Wischkaemper, 4039 Sunnyhill Drive, stated she likes the
sculpture and enjoys sitting there. She understands that many people
do not like it, but this controversy is doing something to the City
that she is not happy with, as Carlsbad has always been a friendly,
wonderful place.
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Ms. Wischkaemper said she was ashamed to say she lived here after
Andrea Blum's visit and the way a group of people treated another human
being. Ms. Blum designed the sculpture, and had a right to do so, as
she was commissioned to do the artwork. Ms. Blum was cat-called at
the sculpture, and there was a dead fish and red food coloring in the
reflecting pond. Ms. Wischkaemper said this is destroying public
property—hers as well as those doing the destroying—and it is
unconscionable.
Ms. Wischkaemper said people pushed in front of the photographer at the
site and that is not fair. She asked what kind of example did that set
for the children. It is all right to dissent—but she urged the people
to follow the laws, rules and regulations. When the sign ordinance is
ignored and huge, ugly signs are placed all over the Village area,
those people should see whether they are breaking the law before
putting up those signs.
Ms. Wischkaemper said she wants this to come to an end—the decision
will make some happy and some unhappy—but they have to accept that and
move forward. If the sculpture stays, she did not want the City to
spend hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting for this group of
dissatisfied citizens—if they can't accept the decision, they should
hire their own lawyers.
Rick Rorapaugh, 2892 Sanford Lane, spoke in favor of the Split
Pavilion, stating he likes the sculpture and likes to sit there. He
likes the bars along Carlsbad Boulevard, as they give the illusion of a
wall keeping the traffic away from him and the park. He likes the
peaceful atmosphere and the view.
Mr. Rorapaugh said the City made a mistake in the timing of the
construction of the piece, by starting it in June. They should have
started during the fall and winter months. However, what is going on
now is stupid and dumb. The decision was made and the contract signed-
-and that is that. The art work makes people think and feel and elicit
response. He said he wants to keep it. He suggested that the people
spending so much energy on this could spend that time on the problems
of the schools and the homeless and could do a lot to help solve those
pressing problems.
Roger Peterson, 180 Cherry, representing Cherry Avenue Neighbors, spoke
in opposition to the Split Pavilion, stating that the way Andrea Blum
was treated was outrageous and wrong.
Mr. Peterson stated that he posed questions at the January 21, 1992,
Council Meeting, which were to be answered at the February 4 Arts
Commission Meeting, and are still unanswered. He demanded answers to
those questions.
Commissioner Spencer arrived at 4:30 p.m.
Mr. Peterson stated there is no place to find a complete file on this
Sculpture Park in Carlsbad. The City signed an agreement and was not
aware of the California Art Preservation Act, and now is in an
operating agreement with the State that can be terminated. He
suggested this site be turned back to the State. Ms. Blum has the
rights to that for her lifetime plus 50 years, and the agreement with
the State is for 20 years. He felt the City should let the State of
California worry about that. The City gave away more than it had to
give.
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Mr. Peterson said the sculpture should be moved to another location,
and that the site should be turned into what was needed and called for
by the State Parks Department—parking and bathroom facilities. He
asked the citizens to clean up their act and allow everyone to be proud
of the great place they live.
Steve Nelson, 295 Juniper Street, stated he is proud of the City and
the people who have voiced their opinions. He stated that he felt
Commissioners Ladouceur and Portera should abstain on any action taken
by the Commission on this item, as they both said they were embarrassed
to serve on the Ad Hoc Committee and respected Andrea Blum's position
too much to meet with her.
Jim Watson, 3283 Lincoln Street, denounced the vandalism and everything
illegal with regard to the Split Pavilion. He said he has an attorney
challenging the sign ordinance in the proper function.
Mr. Watson stated he was linked to the bad attitude the citizens
portrayed to Andrea Blum at the Pavilion by the press. He stated Frank
Mannen and Connie Beardsley were present and were aware of his behavior
that day. Some surfers screamed at Ms. Blum, and he denounced that.
At this time, he has a file that is very thick and he said he knows
more about this topic than any of the City people. He said no one will
look at the facts.
Harold Clarke, 824 Caminito Del Reposo, spoke in favor of the artwork,
stating it defies graffiti, frames the ocean view, enhances the City of
Carlsbad and its reputation for good taste and visitors will have a
favorable impression. As to the negative aspects—he failed to see any.
Chairperson Ladouceur closed the Meeting to public comment at 4:45 p.m.
Commission discussion followed.
Commissioner Wood stated he watched the construction and has spent a
great deal of time there. He was ashamed of the treatment of Andrea
Blum, and said that Eric Larson apologized on behalf of the entire
City. Mr. Wood stated he thought the subcommittee was trying to
negotiate an equitable settlement to the dispute. He did not think
their recommendations will satisfy the people making the noise.
Mr. Wood said that acceptable changes are to change the landscaping and
remove the bars on the north wall. He thought perhaps other bars could
be negotiated to be removed and he recommended a further approach to
Andrea Blum. She made two major modifications after she said she would
not. He felt the east/west bars might look odd without the north bars,
as it is not part of the concept. Artists rely on public support and
money and art needs public support. He said this is hurting all
artists everywhere. He hoped another step could be taken.
David Sammons, 1703 Evergreen, the citizens' representative on the Ad
Hoc Committee, stated he refused to judge the artist before he met her,
and did meet her on April 16. He said the report from the Committee is
excellent. He requested a change in the Transcript dated April 16,
1992, page 12, fifth paragraph, to change the period to a comma
following the word "terrible".
Commissioner Batter stated that the artist meant the bars by the
restaurant do not look right and if those could be closed with
landscaping, she was willing to remove those bars.
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Commissioner Straub felt the changes were quite clear; one, change the
landscape, and two, after that is completed, to consider taking down
the bars on the north side, and she proposed that a recommendation to
the City Council deal with those two issues.
Commissioner Spencer said there were three issues; landscaping, and how
that would appear; removal of the bars to provide closure; and
something about the rails themselves.
Commissioner Wrench stated that the subcommittee pursued changing the
bars—different material, color and size. He said it was clear to him
that she intended smaller bars, but somewhere along the line a
substitution was made. He wondered whether this was really worth
making an issue over, for it would make more of a mess to change the
bars just to downscale the size of them. He could not support changing
the diameter of the bars.
Commissioner Portera agreed with Commissioner Wrench regarding the
changing of the size of the bars, and stated he was in favor of the
acceptable changes. The artist showed good faith, although some of the
people are not getting exactly what they want—it is a matter of
compromise, with give and take.
Commissioner Portera stated he would vote on the report, as he saw no
reason to abstain.
Chairperson Ladouceur said the artist has to draw a line to keep her
integrity, and she felt someone else would be better on the Committee
and more neutral than she. She said the Commission supports the local
process.
Commissioner Wrench stated this due process has been a fair one, and
whatever happens, the citizens cannot take the law into their own
hands. The City will have to make the final decision. He said he is
tired of the uncivil behavior exhibited in the City about this, and
enough is enough. Enough time and money has been spent by the City and
the citizens, and there are better things and issues on which to spend
their time and energy.
Commissioner Straub said that many comments have been made about
acceptable and unacceptable behavior. She felt the following quotes by
Elie Wiesel, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, might be used as a litmus
test for that concern:
"I would say that an idea becomes fanatical the moment it minimizes or
excludes all the ideas that confront or oppose it."
"The fanatic is afraid of pluralism and diversity; he abhors learning."
"A fanatic has answers, not questions; certainties, not hesitations."
"...it leads to dehumanizing, degrading and contagious hatred. Nothing
good, nothing worthy, nothing creative can be born of hatred."
Commissioner Wood said the people who come here should not be lectured,
and he reiterated his desire to try one more time to meet with Andrea
Blum.
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Commissioner Batter stated that Ms. Blum was willing to address all
different areas in depth with the Committee, and she doubted whether
she would make any further changes. However, she added that
she could not speak for Ms. Blum, and that would be up to the City
Council to pursue.
Council Member Margaret Stanton, a Member of the Split Pavilion
Committee, stated that she wondered whether Ms. Blum would be amenable
to more changes, as each of the members of the Committee explored every
inch of that artwork in an attempt to get an agreement with Ms. Blum on
changes she would accept. On the next to last page of the report,
Council Member Larson asked the artist if she would redesign the piece,
and she said "no". She felt a great deal of time had been spent in the
years designing the piece and now with the Committee and the Arts
Commission in formulating a recommendation to the City Council.
Commissioner Wrench stated that the Arts Commission had given
consideration to the process by which the project was conceived and
implemented; the full range of community input, pro and con; the report
of the Aad Hoc Committee, which has met with the artist; understanding
of the legal issues involved and the cost of the project to date; the
artistic conscience and judgment of its individual members, and now
recommends, as follows:
2. Recommendation for City Council
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Wrench, the Arts Commission
recommended,
1) that the City immediately proceed to modify the
landscaping in accordance with the guidelines and
procedures discussed by the Ad Hoc Committee and the
artist, and
2) that, following modification of the landscaping, the City
seek the artist's consent to remove the north-boundary
rails, and
3) that the artist's concerns regarding workmanship on
concrete sealers be addressed, and
4) that the City then declare the project complete and
subject to the full protection of the law as provided for
other City assets and capital facilities.
AYES; Ladouceur, Batter, Portera, Spencer, Straub and Wrench
NOES; Wood
Commissioner Wood objected to Item #4.
RECESS:
Chairperson Ladouceur declared a Recess at 5:34 p.m., and the Commission re-
convened at 5:44 p.m., with all Members present.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS;
Chairperson's Report
Chairperson Ladouceur asked the Commission whether they were in favor of
holding a workshop. She said she felt the Commission needed to set some goals
for the year and see how they could promote the arts in Carlsbad.
The Commission, by consensus, agreed to hold a workshop, and Connie Beardsley
will call the Commissioners with possible dates.
Manager's Report
In response to Commission query, Connie Beardsley reported that the request
has been made by the City Council to amend all contracts for a waiver for the
California Art Preservation Act and the Federal Act. Notes have been sent to
all the artists who have signed contracts, and they are in the process of
being returned at this time. As far as the new Library, there is no rush on
that, since the Library is not going forward at the moment. Larwin Park and
Alta Mira are ready to go forward. Ms. Beardsley stated she is awaiting the
waiver for Larwin Park, and the City is ready to hire an artist for Alta Mira
Park.
Ms. Beardsley reported that the jazz concerts will start in June.
Carrillo Ranch
Commissioner Wrench reported that the ad hoc committee has reached an interim
completion point. A consensus was reached on the shape of the land form, to
guide the City staff in negotiations with the owners. The owners of the
surrounding land are obliged to give certain amounts of land to the City, but
just where that land will be is not determined at this time.
Commissioner Wrench stated there is a need to keep talking about this, even
though the time for the Ranch to be developed is far away, he felt it was very
important for everyone to continue to talk about this and keep tuned in to
what is happening with regard to the use of the surrounding land.
Arts Element to the General Plan
Chairperson Ladouceur stated there will be a report at the next meeting.
Arts Associates
Jackie Wrench reported that the Speakers Series, Art is Life Plus was finished
very successfully. A grant has been received for the Library gallery. She
expressed appreciation for the breakfast series. She announced that the
Festejando a las Madrecitas will be held on Saturday, May 9, 1992, from noon
to 5:00 p.m., at Holiday Park.
Connie Beardsley stated that the Planning Department wants to take the General
Plan to City Council in June. She said there may have to be a special meeting
to get the Arts Element in final form. The Committee will form a draft to be
sent to the Commissioners before the meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENT;
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-agenda item.
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NEW BUSINESS;
3. Budget Review of Pops Concert
Chairperson Ladouceur stated there is a lack of funds for including in
the budget both the pops concert and the grants. She referenced a
letter dated May 6, 1992, from the Patrons of the Arts Foundation,
expressing concern that the grants may be eliminated and asking that
they be retained.
Connie Beardsley stated that as of now, the pops concert is out of the
budget and the grants are included, and a decision should be made today
as to which of the two the Commission wants to recommend.
Commissioner Batter reported that the many telephone calls and contacts
with the businesses in the area were not successful as far as getting
any donations for the pops concert.
Kevin Mann, 333 North Emerald Drive, representing the Spectrum
Theatrical Works, spoke in favor of the grants, stating that their
group would like to continue to perform in Carlsbad. He felt the
grants would benefit 15 or 16 groups rather than just be one event, as
the pops concert.
Commission discussion determined that some Commissioners felt that
Council should be asked to underwrite the pops concert. The
Commissioners said they would write letters as individuals and talk
with Council Members to try to get funding for the pops concert.
Connie Beardsley said she would contact the symphony orchestra to tell
them the pops was cancelled out; also to determine how much longer they
would wait in case money could be raised.
ACTION; On motion by Commissioner Wood, the Arts Commission voted
to retain the grants program in the budget.
AYES; Ladouceur, Batter, Portera, Straub, Wood and Wrench
NOES; Spencer
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper motion, the Meeting of May 7, 1992, was adjourned at 6:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
CONNIE BEARDSLEY
Arts Manager
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk