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Meeting of: CITY COUNCIL (Adjourned Regular Meeting)
Time of Meeting: 6:Oo P.M.
Date of Meeting: October 13, 1981
Place of Meeting: Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Packard called the meeting to
order at 6:OO P.M. I
ROLL CALL: Roll Call was taken by the City
Clerk:
Present: Mayor Packard, Council Members Casler,
Anear, Kulchin.
1 Absent: Council Member Lewis.
Council Member Lewis arrived at 6:O6
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281 1. AB ib6770 - AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S
RECOMMENDED AGRICULTURAL PROGRAM.
The Planning Director gave a staff report on the matter
and briefly reviewed the history of agriculture in the
City and the various manners in which it has been
addressed in the past. He then summarized the contents
of the Memorandum, dated October 13, 1981, from the
Agricultural Advisory Committee, and referenced a wall
exhibit showing the locations of the various soil types
in the City.
Be introduced the Chairman of the Agricultural Advisory
Committee, Mr. Peter MacKauf, who addressed Council and
outlined some basic guidelines that the Committee used
during their deliberations.
In conclusion, the Planning Director referenced the City
Manager's note on the agenda bill and indicated the need
for Council consideration of the matter as a policy
issue.
In response to Council questions, the Plannning Director
stated that in the proposed program the owners of type 4,
5 and 6 class soils would have the option to volunteer
to participate in the program. Further, if they
volunteered, they would be subiect to all conditions of
the program. If they did not volunteer, they could
develop their entire property in accordance with existing
zoning and land use regulations. In addition, he stated
that the program would not apply to property which
already has.an approved tentative map.
Council recognized Dr. Yamamoto, 1201 Via La Jolla, San
Clemente. Dr. Yamamoto stated that he had purchased a
small piece of land in the City for use as a future
home.He indicated a neighbor had leased the land for a
couple of years to farm, but had discontinued farming
operations because it was too rocky. Dr. Yamamoto
concluded by expressing complete frustration with the
program and restrictions it would place on the
development of his land.
Council 'recognized Mr. Howard Mueller, Conservation
Service, 1523 East Valley Parkway, Escondido. Mr.
Mueller stated that the City of Carlsbad has no class 1
and no class 5 soil. In addition, much of the class 2
soil is in valley bottoms which are not conducive to
farming because of frost. Re also indicated that farming
is based on not only soil type, but also management. He
concluded by explaining the differences between the types
of soils and expressed wTllingness to respond to any
questions.
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Council recognized Mr. Ronald Wooten, of Rrowne fi Vogt,
representing Mary Bressi and her daughter. He stated tha
the Bressi property had not yet been annexed to the City,
and expressed concern that the program would add yet
another restriction to any development which may occur on
the property. He concluded by stating that Mrs. Bressi
just does not want to be put into the position where ther
will be so many restrictions that she won't be able to
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Council recognized Mr. Terry Hackett, who indicated that
he represented owners of property on the Batiquitos
Lagoon. Mr. Backett stated that the property was
currently in the County, but that application had been
made for annexation, and he posed several questions
regarding the proposed program.
Council recognized Mr. Dwight Spires, 17941 Mitchell,
Irvine, representing Occidental. Mr. Spires gave a
history of problems dealing with agriculture since the
approval of the Coastal Act, and the many problems it has
created for developers as a result of the City and Coasta
Commission's disagreements. He suggested it would be
appropriate for the City to continue to work with the
Coastal Commission to resolve their differences, and all0
developers to continue with the dual permit process. He
expressed the opinion that the proper approach is to work
through the legal processes and mandates of the Coastal
Act.
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Since no one else wished to address Council regarding the
matter, Mayor Packard closed the item to public
discussion.
Mayor Packard expressed the opinion that the program woul
discourage annexation and would be an administrative burd
to implement. He indicated that if it is not economical1
feasible to farm a piece of land, an agricultural program
or an ordinance will not force a person to farm. He also
expressed concern that if a transfer of density is allowe
the agriculture would be retained on the flat land, and
development would be rewired on the slopes. He stated i
could cause problems because of the City's policies
regarding development of slopes and Coastal Commission's
policies regarding slopes. He indicated his belief that
the City's current policy of maintaining and encouraging
agriculture as long as it is economically feasible is an
appropriate policy.
For clarification purposes, Council Member Casler indicat
that those lands shown in yellow on the soils map could
develop in accordance with zoning and land use regulation
and would not be affected unless they volunteered to
participate. Therefore, Mr. Yamamoto's land could be
developed due to the soil type of his land.
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Mrs. Casler continued stating that the proposed
agricultural program is the same one that was presented t
and adopted by the Regional Commission, but was denied by
the State Commission. She expressed the feeling that the
City must come up with an agricultural plan to present to
the new Commission in an attempt to replace their current
program.
Further Council discussion related to possible effects on
annexations if the City did not have an adopted agricul-
tural program and whether any program which may be adopte
should be presented to the Coastal Commission for conside
ation in replacing their existing agricultural policy
for Carlsbad's LCP.
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Council returned the proposed agricultural policy to staff
for refinement and preparation of a plan to be submitted
to the Coastal Commission as an alternate agricultural
program to be applied within the City's LCP area.
RECESS :
Mayor Packard called a Recess at 7:48 P.M.,and Council
reconvened at 8:02 P.M., with all Council Members present.
~631 2. AB 86687 - Supplement #1 - LIBRARY SITE ANALYSIS.
The Parks & Recreation Director, Dave Bradstreet gave a
report on the matter as contained in the agenda bill, and
with the aid of wall exhibits explained the site criteria
analysis used in the determinations of the task force. RE
also referenced a wall map and identified the locations of
all sites considered by the task force. A slide presenta-
tion was then used to show the locations and terrain of
the five highest ranked sites.
Council recognized Seena Trigas, Chairman of the the
Library Board of Trustees, 6430 Flamenco Street. Ms.
Trigas reaffirmed the Library Board's preference for site
By and urged Council action on the recommendations con-
tained in the agenda bill.
Mrs. Runzo, 355 Elm Avenue, Carlsbad, responded to
questions about the number of years she had worked for a
library in the San Fernando valley, and the number of
libraries which were built on major arterials.
Council recognized Mr. Jim Goff, representing Daon Corpor
ation, 1241 Elm Avenue, Carlsbad. Mr. Goff expressed
concern about the fact that apparent feeling of the
Library Board is that they can pick five acres any where
they want. He expressed a willingness to work with the
City on a site, but indicated that it should be credited
against their park req-uirements, wherever the ultimate
site is located.
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In response to Council query, Mr. Goff indicated that the
current direction of the Council would reqpire Daon to
dedicate 21 acres at the proposed Alga Norte site, and 28
acres at the proposed Stage Coach Park site, and any
further developments would be required to pay fees. He
also indicated that Council had the option to require
additional land, but that would result in payment of
fewer fees. For clarification, he also indicated that
Site B, is the only site owned by Daon in the top five
and that although site C did not rank in the top five, it
was also owned by Daon, and is located in the proposed
Alga Norte Park.
Council discussion reflected agreement that funding
situations would not allow the City to build any more
than one additional library. Additional discussion also
related to what type the additional library would
become, and what status the existing library would then
hold. Further discussion related to defining the term
"main" as it refers to the library, and any implications
it would have on the location of the library
administration.
Council agreed that the City shall plan for one
additional library to be built, in the south part of the
City, which will be a larger facility than the existing
facility, and that it will be built in phases.
Additional Council discussion reflected agreement that
no decisions regarding administration of the libraries
were being made at this time.
Council directed staff to negotiate with the property
owners affected, and to return with cost details and
terms on sites J, B, and C, and to return the report to
Council as soon as possible.
Following further discussion, it was moved that no action
be taken on the third recommendation on the agenda bill,
relating to the store-front facility.
Council agreed to take no action at this time with regard
to a library building program, as contained in the second
half of recommendation number one on the agenda
bill.
[1101 3. AB /I6698 - Supplement #l - REPORT OF GLEN REITER.
Mr. Reiter gave the report to Council summarizing the
contents of his report, dated Septemer 22, 1981, titled,
"Diagnostic Analysis of the City of Carlsbad and Costa
Real Municipal Water District Areas".
In response to Council query, Mr. Reiter, explained that
of the $45 million worth of facilities required in the
future, approximately $41 million is in the Costa Real
Municipal Water District areas and $4 million worth is in
the City's Water area. In response to questions, he also
indicated that the Water District would have the unique
ability to charge a stand by charge to assist in the
funding, and that the City has revenue sharing to assist
its funding. He also indicated that it could be included
in the City's public facilities fee.
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The City Manager indicated that the report reflects the
need for the community to develop long range plans on how
the facilities will be funded.
Council recognized A.J. Skotnicki, 3535 Bedford Circle,
Carlsbad. Mr. Skotnicki indicated that timing is an
essential factor and since it is related to land use
such facilities. I the City would be in a better position to plan for
Council accepted the report.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
The City Manager distributed a copy of AB 1152, and an
analysis of same provided by Senator Craven's office. He
noted that the hearinE before the Local Government
Committee would be held at 1O:OO A.M., on October 15,
1981, and queried whether any Council Member desired to
at tend.
Mayor Packard reported on the bill as it had previously
been considered, and expressed concern that such a bill
would create a super structure which would control not
only the beaches, but also all drainage basins in each
city.
Council Members indicated that previous commitments would
prevent them from attending the hearing, but requested
that a staff member attend and report to Council on the
results.
OFF AGENDA ITEMS:
1l0] Council Member Casler indicated that Costa Real Municipal
Water District charges their mobile home spaces a ready t
serve charge of $2.53 per month, while the City charges
$5.20 per month. She asked that Council add this item to
the agenda for discussion and possible action with regard
to the rate differences.
Council agreed that the matter of the water rates in
mobile home parks be added to the agenda for
consideration.
Council Member Casler indicated that the Water District
was informing the mobile home parks within their district
that their ready to serve charge would be increased from
$2.53 per month to $5.20 per month if the City took over
the Water District. As a point of reference, they
suggested that people verify those facts by contacting
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Mrs. Casler indicated that since there is only one meter
in the park which needs to be read, or would need to be
replaced, that possibly a similar charge of $2.53 would be
appropriate for the Solamar Mobile Home Park.
Mrs. Casler indicated that a decision was needed as soon
as possible in that she would be talking at the Parks on
questions regarding that matter.
Following brief discussion, Council directed staff to
return with documents to reduce the ready to serve charge
in the City’s service area to a rate comparable to that
charged by the Water District.
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As a point of clarification, the City Manager indicated
that should the City be successful at the election, that
the District’s rate will remain in effect for that area
and no increase will automatically go into effect. He
indicated that a complete review and study of all charges
would be made, but that Council would have to take action
following full public hearings before any rates could be
increased.
NEXT COUNCIL MEETNG:
Council agreed that the regular meeting of October 20,
1981, would not be held due to many conflicts, and that
the next meeting would be scheduled for Monday, October
26, 1981, at 6:OO P.M., in the Council Chambers.
ADJOURNMENT :
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 10:2O
P.M..
Respectfully submitted,
City Clerk
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