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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-11-22; City Council; Minutes,6 I (57) (85) (113) 32 6 MINUTES Meeting of: CITY "NCIL (Adjourned Regular Meeting) Time Date of of Meeting: Meetinq: November 22, 1983 /\y 6:OO p.m. COUNCIL % %% 8 Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers CALL 93 ORDER: The Meeting was called to order by Mayor Casler at 6:OO p.m. ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk as follows: MEMBERS % %% Present: Council Members Casler, Kulchin, Chick and Presmtt. Council Member Lewis arrived at 6:03 p.m. Absent : None. PRESEMTATIONS : Mayor Casler presented a proclamation to Marc Revere, President of Carlsbad Firefighters' Association, proclaiming Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, November 24, 1983, as Firefighters' Appreciation Day in recognition of the outstanding mntributions made by the Firemen. Mayor Casler presented a proclamation to Gary Spencer, Vice-president of the Carlsbad Police Officers' Association, proclaiming Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, November 24, 1983, as Police Officers' Appreciation Day in recognition of the outstanding mntributions made by Pol ice Officers . PUBLIC HEARINGS CONTINUED E" N-ER 1 5, 1983: GENERAL PLAN A" A. AB #7567 - Supplement #3 - EIR 83-7/GPA/LU 83-2/ZC- 281 - RORERTS. Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, gave the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using a transparency to show the location of the property. Mayor Casler opened the public hearing at 6:lO p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Gil Martinez, representing the aplicant, presented slides showing the property and its relation to the industrial park. Mr. Martinez discussed the proposed change in density and stated the over-all density muld be a mxim of 14.2. He gave mpies of a letter and a map of the noise mntours in the area to the Council Members for their perusal. Mr. Martinez stated the noise level was less than the 55 CNEL and would be compatible and acceptable for the proposed developnt. He added there would be written notification given to the tenants advising them of the noise impact. He also stated that the applicant is ready to comit to an apartment development. In response to Council query, Mr. Paul Baumhoefner stated the noise level had been calculated from the point of the site closest to the airport. I MINUTES 325 COUNCIL /\y % %$ ? November 22, 1983 Page 2 MEMBERS % %% Mr. Girard Anear, 1728 Calavo Court, addressed Council in opposition to this project, stating that each unit built in this project would be a $75 deficit to the City, He questioned why a fiscal inpact analysis was not prepared on the development. He suggested it be deferred to allow for a full analysis of the fiscal impact. Mr. A. J. Skotnicki, 3535 Bedford Circle, addressed Council stating he opposed the increased density and the entire project due to the noise impact from the airport. He then referenced a letter from the Noise Control Board, and expressed agreement with same. He stated the City had an opportunity to build around the airport in a compatible fashion, and expressed the hope that this proposal would not be approved because it would destroy that plan. He also stated that residents that close to the airport would increase noise conplaints. He also questioned whether the Land Use Conmission was consulted reqarding this proposal. Mr. Jerry Hart, President of Palomar Pilots' Association, addressed the Council in opposition to this project, using a wall mp showing the flight patterns, He stated his association would like a three-mile radius around the airport established as a mratorium zone for residential development until such time as the Master Airport Plan is updated. He stated the CNEL was in error, and this property is near one of the mst dangerous areas in the flight pattern. Mr. Hae stated in the future Palomar Airport will be 70 to 80 percent jets. Mr. John Dixon, 2186 Palomar Airport Road, Vice-president of the Palomar Airport Pilots' Association, spoke in opposition to the project, stating there is concentrated helicopter traffic in that area, and that this property was just south of that. Also he stated that people being told about the mise will not stop the conplaints. Mr. A. C. Waldrnan, Director, Airports Division, Gillespie Field, 1968 Joe Crosson Drive, El Cajon, spoke to the Council, stating he was neither in favor of nor against the project. He stated the noise problem is below State noise standards and there is nothing else that could be enforced on the property owners to stop development. Mr. Waldman stated he was available to give facts, and understood the airport was trying to be a good neighbor, and there are no plans to expand the airport. He stated the pilots are opposing what is happening at the airport, and are using scare tactics in the communities, and Mr. Waldman stated what the pilots are saying is not true. Mr. Waldman suggested a group be founded to hear proposals on developments and to come forward with a recomndation to Council. In a discussion, the Council Members felt perhaps the Council was being used as a pawn in another game, Mr. Waldman agreed this is being used for another activity that is going on at the present time. Mr. Waldman gave figures as projected for airport use and actual use, and the actual use is below that projected. Also, the trip numbers are down, due to the mnony. He also stated there are no plans or funds to update the Airport Master Plan. He also stated the existing plan is still valid. b 324 MINUTES \\k 5 November 22, 1 983 Page 3 COUNCIL % 5% 3 MEMBERS % %% Mr. Bernie Gilmre, Developer, Palomar Airport Business Park, addressed Council stating the industrial center needs employees, and housing in that area would help provide those qloyees. He stated he was in favor of the project because of the location and would hope other developers would do the same. Mr. Anear responded to Council query and explained his estimates and figures which reflect the loss of $75 per unit to the City on this project. Mr. Martinez spoke in rebuttal, stating this development would conplement and insure additional success of the business park. He stated the site is 4,000 ft. away from the 65 CNEL, and with less outdoor space in a higher density area, people would be indmrs and less aware of the noise. Also, he stated these would be renters, and if the noise bothered them, they could mve. Mr. Martinez also stated they could not build higher than the limit of 35 feet. Mike Molzmiller stated that staff recognized this project was out of the noise impact area. The concern staff had was the closeness to the flight pattern and it will be impacted by the airport because planes and helimpters will fly over the area. Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed at 7: 13 p.m. Council Member Chick questioned the difference between noise from airport and noise from the train track. He expressed the opinion that housing and apartments are needed. Council Me_mber Kulchin expressed concern about the safet:, factor. Council Member Prescott stated there will be a lot of jobs in the area and housing should be mde available. Council Member Lewis stated that the proximity to the airport could cause problems. He also noted that though apartments are currently being discussed, there is always the possibility of conversion to omdominim at a later date. Mayor Casler comnted she saw rn reason to change the general plan and increase the density. 1 Council certified Environmental Inpact Report 83-7. X Casler Lewis Prescott X Chick X Kulchin xx X Council directed the City Attorney to prepare documents Casler X denying GPA/LU 83-2 and documents approving ZC-281. Lewis xx Kulchin X Chick Prescott 323 1 Y MINUTES November 22, 1983 Page 4 MEMBERS COUNCIL k % . RECESS : Mayor Casler declared a recess at 7:31 p.m. and Council re-convened at 7:37 p.m., with all Council Members present. :571 B. AB #7567 - Supplement #4 - GPA/LU 83-3 - CALAVERA HILLS CCIVANY. Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, gave the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using transparencies to show the location of the property and the three mall park areas, Mayor Casler opened the public hearing at 7:44 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. J. Scott Turpin, 110 West C Street, San Diego, addressed the Council representing the applicant, and stated he was available for questions. Mr. A, J. Skotnicki, 3535 Bedford Circle, addressed Council in apposition to this project, stating the comercia1 area is being decreased, making that development less self-supporting. He also expressed concern that a negative declaration was issued rather than preparing an amendment to the EIR, He suggested that the changes are substantial and the overall impact should be analyzed through an amendment to the EIR. Mr. David Ptoffel, 4705 Edinburgh Drive, addressed Council expressing concern about traffic being routed through his neighborhood, if the teprary road through the cpen space area is closed. There would ke no other route to Tamarack at that time. Dave Bradstreet stated the City is working with the homeowners and would discuss this problem with then. Mr. Girard Anear, 1728 Calavo Court, addressed Council in opposition to this project, using a flip &art to show the cost per capita as far as property taxes on this propsed project. He stated he thought the park would be beneficial, but he objected to the loss of the comrcial area. In answer to a question from Council, Mr. Anear stated he was in favor of the original plan, but oy?posd to the increased density and loss of commercial . 1 Mr. Turpin spoke in rebuttal. stating there would be 435 additional units. He stated that as to the loss of revenue, you must have bodies to spend the mney and supprt the businesses. He stated that more than ten acres of comrcial could not be suppolrted by the area. Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed at 8:03 p.m. Mike Holzmiller stated there was an environmental review, but it did not address the fiscal impacts; it did address the traffic and grading. 4iJ vi -322 MINUTES \\b 5 November 22, 1 983 Page 5 COUNCIL % %' 3 MEMBERS % %% Council directed the City Attorney to prepare documents X Prescott X Chick xx Kulchin X Lewis approving GPA/LU 83-3. X Casler 57) C. AB #7567 - Supplement #5 - GPA/LU 83-9/ZC-285 - 113) TRUITT. Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, gave the staff report as oontained in the Agenda Bill, using transparencies to show the location of the property and the surrounding land uses. Mayor Casler opened the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Tom Wd, Attorney, 2130 Janis Way, addressed Council representing the applicant. Mr. Wcd showed slides of the existing structures on Tamarack and slides showing a noise wall and an apartment development near the railroad track displaying the feasibility of the requested project. Mr. wood used a transparency showinq Long Place and Hibiscus Circle, stating these were the only two areas of single family units. He gave a map to the Council showing property farther north at a higher density. He stated an apartment building, tcgether with a noise wall, would act as a noise shield for the other residents in the area. Regarding traffic on Tamarack, Mr. wood stated there are three driveways at the present time with people backing onto Tamarack. With this project, there would be off- street parking and one driveway leadina out to Tamarack. Mr. Fibod presented a letter to the Council from a resident across the street, in favor of this project. He concluded by stating it would be better to have rental units in a high noise area, as they would have the option of mving, and affordable apartments are needed in Carlsbad. He stated there would be no negative impact and the mst impact that would result would be a few more cars on Tamarack. The applicant, Mr. Truitt, responded to Council query stating the re-alignment of Tamarack would only affect 16 feet of the east bundary of his property. Mrs. Audrey Cowen, 3925 Hibiscus, spoke in apposition to the project, stating this is a fragile area and this would brinq the district down. The apartments would not stay rented or each one would be rented to several families in order to be economically viable for the developer. Mr. John McCoy, 390 Oak, addressed Council stating if Mr. Truitt wished to develop this property, he should be allowed to do it. Mr. kbod spoke in rebuttal, stating there are ways to build apartment buildings with windowless walls, thicker walls, etc. , to help abate the noise. 1 I 321 MINUTES COUNCIL I\\ 559 0 Ao A 8 November 22, 1983 Page 6 MEMBERS % %% Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed at 8:45 p.m. Council discussed the noise level problem and the problem of a second story looking down into the backyard of the surrounding yards. Also discussed was the desirability of Tamarack being resolved prior to increasing density. At 8:52 p.m., Council agreed to allow Mr. wood to add testimony. Mr. Kxxl stated Mr. Truitt had agreed not to build a two-story building and would agree to a "Q" overlay, reducing density to 10 to 20 units. He asked Council to mnsider this as an amenant to the original request . The City Attorney stated if this had not been mnsidered by the Planning Conmission, the project would have to be referred back. Council expressed the opinion that the railroad track is a good buffer between low denisity and high density. Council discussed the possibility of the applicant withdrawing the application and re-submitting at the next general plan hearinq. Council directed the City Attorney's Office to prepare Casler X documents denying, without prejudice, GPA/LU 83-9 and Lewis X Chick xx Prescott X ZC-285. X Kulchin Mayor Casler expressed the opinion that the project should not exceed the density of that existing across the street. FSCESS : Mayor Casler declared at recess at 9:Ol p.m. and Council re-convened at 9:07 p.m. with all Council Members present. (57) D. AE3 #7567 - Supplement #6 - GPA/LU 83-11 - COUNTY OF SAN DIEGC). Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, gave the staff reprt as contained in the Agenda Bill, usinq a transparency showing the location of the property. Another transparency was used showing the surroundina property, including the Palomar Transfer Station. b Mayor Casler opened the public hearing at 9:12 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Greg Garratt, Attorney, 530 B Street, San Diego, addressed the Council on behalf of the County, referring to a letter the Council Members had been given prior to the meting. He stated the County would construct Faraday Avenue and provide the basic utilities. As the private developers mm in, they will then develop the property. The funds received from this development will be channeled to airports in the area. However, Mr. Garratt stated the mney could not be earmarked for Palomar Airport specifically. He stated 90% would go to Palomar Airport. - MINUTES 32 0 \\k 5 November 22, 1 983 Page 7 COUNCIL % ?$%* MEMBERS * 6 * Mr. Garratt stated the Chamber was concerned abut improvements on Palomar Airport Road east of El Camino. He stated the City agreed to Palomar Airport Road improvement and the County agreed to El Camino Real improvement. The concern about Melrose was discussed by Mr. Garratt, and he stated the Board of Supervisors had deleted the portion of Melrose in the unincorporated area south of La Costa. He stated this should probably be reviewed again, and the County would welmme a letter to the Board of Supervisors requesting this, if the City and the Chamber desired to have that section of Melrose re-instated. Mr. Garratt assured the Council that the County desired high-quality development on this site and the specific plan process would assure that. He also stated that the County would receive no preferential treatment as far as taxes. The next item to be discussed by Xr. Garratt was the Transfer Station. He stated the lease had been terminated as the refit offered by Mr. DeJong was not sufficient. He assured the Council the Board members es not wish to demolish the station, but wish to preserve it. Mr. Edwar6 Boersma, 7204 Ponto Drive, addressed Council in apposition to this project. He stated the County had said in a letter that they could not grade the other property unless the Transfer Station area was graded at the same tim, which would mean the Transfer Station would be demolished. He stated it would not be in the best interest of the City to demlish the four million dollar Transfer Station. Trash is a growing problem and will continue to be a problem. Mr. John MKq, 390 Oak, addressed Council asking why the funds from this project could not be earmarked for Palomar Airport, and stating he felt the County should not be in competition with private industrial parks. He stated he felt the General Plan should be left as it is. Mr. Arie DeJong, Coast Waste Management Company, addressed Council stating it sounded as though the County had a change of heart, if the presentation tonight was indeed their present feeling. He stated he would want definite proof of the County's intent. Mr. Jerry Hart, President of the Airport Pilots Association, reiterated his previous statement that the pilots association would like a mratorium on residential devel-opmnt within a three-mile radius of the airport. In answer to a question from Council, Mr. Hart answered that people working there would not be affected as much as those living there. In addition, land owners could not be denied all development rights. Mr. Garratt spoke in rebuttal, stating the County had changed its mind with regard to demolishing the Transfer Station as stated in the letter referred to ky Mr. Boersma. l 1 MINUTES 319 - - 1 COUNCIL \\+ 5 %9 "0 .,"p,T A November 22, 1983 Page 8 MEMBERS Z. d Z. With reference to the dollars to go to Palomar Airprt, Mr. Garratt reiterated that 90% of that mney would be used in this area. Mr. Garratt reiterated the benefits to the City and added that this Faould be of mtual benefit to the County and City. Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the public hearing was closed at 9:50 p.m. Council Member Kulchin expressed the opinion that this request was premature. She stated that the chamber letter reuqests policy decisions and those need to be addressed. Council Member Chick mncurred with the remarks of Council Member Kulchin. He also expressed the opinion that the transfer station site needs to be looked at as part of the whole proposal. He also expressed the belief that the County would then be using public funds and would be in competition with private enterprise. Council directed the City Attorney's Office to prepare Casler xx documents approving GPA/LU 83-11. Lewis X Kulchin Chick Presmtt X Mayor Casler asked Council whether they would like to have an analysis of the qeneral plan amendments as recommended by the Land Use Planning Manager at the last Council Meeting. City Manager Frank Aleshire stated he had asked the Research & A.na1ysi.s qroup to go to the 1974 Plan and determine densities then and to track all changes to the densities and the Plan. Council Member Kulchin suggested a Workshop with the Planniq Department on this subject. (68) 2. CONSIDERATION OF CoUNTy REJOINING SANDAG. After a brief report by Mayor Casler, Council adopted the following Resolution: Casler X Presmtt VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION OF -. X Chick SWAG AS A CDNTRIBUTIKJG NEN3ER 'PD A FEGIONAL BUT X Kulchin RESOLUTION h?. 7409, SUPPORTING BOARD ACTION TO REJOIN X Lewis xx Mayor Casler asked Council to set a date to discuss CIP priorities. The City Manager stated the Safety Center is on hold until this meeting is held. Council agreed to meet December 7, 1983, at 3:OO p.m. in the City Council Chamhers. 1 OFF-AGENDA ITJ3M : Mayor Casler requested an off-auenda item be heard regarding the report issued by the Comittee of Senior Citizens and Council. Members and Council unanimously agreed. , 318 MINUTES - , November 22, 1983 Page 9 ~ ~~~~~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~ ~ Council P4enber Lewis stated he believed the Senior Citizens should become an entity of the City. Council Member Chick stated his consent to discuss was for the report only, and if anything else was to be discussed, it should be part of an agenda, and he withdrew his consent. The City Attorney stated since there was no longer unanimous mnsent, this would have to become an Agenda Item, on the next agenda. CLOSED SESSION: Council adjourned at 10~19 p.m. to a Closed Session to discuss litigation. Council reconvened at 10:35 p.m. with all Council. Members present. Mayor Casler announced that litigation was discussed and no action taken. ADOUIWMENT: By proper mtion, the meeting was adjourned at 10~36 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Aletha rn L. Rautenkranz 8,I?e=- City Clerk 1 c COUNCIL /\k % %' 9 MEMBERS % %%