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Meeting of: CITY COUNCIL (Adjourned Regular Meeting) Date of Meeting : May 29, 1984 \p 5 Time of Meeting: 6:OO p.m. COUNCIL % 9&' Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers MEMBERS % q
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Casler called the meeting to order at 6:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL: Roll call was taken by the City Clerk as
follows:
Present : Council Members Casler , Lewis, Kulchin,
Chick and Prescott .
Absent: None I II
(70) 1 . BEACH EROSION WORKSHOP.
The City Manager gave an introduction to the matter
commenting on the problems experienced with beach
erosion and actions taken by individuals in the past in
an effort to halt the erosion. He indicated the purpose
of the meeting was to note the problems that exist and
to attempt to bring together all parties to work toward
a solution. He concluded the introduction with a slide
presentation showing the deteriorating condition of
the beach and bluffs along the beach in Carlsbad, and
commented on the problem of the eroding bluffs
undermining Carlsbad Boulevard.
The presentation was continued by Sid Willard,
Departmental Geologist with State Department of Parks
and Recreation. Ms. Willard indicated her intention to
address the beach erosion problem on a geological basis, and noted that there are many problems being experienced
in coastal properties throughout the world. She stated
that factors such as changes in the weather from
volcanic activity, change in the ocean level, and urban
industrialization have all caused the change in the
movement of water above and underground. She stated
that because of these changes, the erosion is considered to be naturally accelerated and noted the probability
that Carlsbad Blvd. would eventually give way to the
ocean.
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Ms. Willard suggested that perhaps we would be better
not to halt the erosion because it is from that natural
erosion that beaches get their sand. With a slide
presentation, she displayed the beach areas in Carlsbad
owned by the State in 1978 and in 1982 following the
severe storms. She then summarized the State
Department's policies regarding the State beaches, and
indicated that possibly consideration should be given to
promoting the use of portable and expendable facilities
along the beach. She stated that the interface between
water and land must be flexible to insure its continued
ex is t ance .
The report was then continued by Mr. Rinehard Flick,
Assistant Research Oceanographer with Scripps Institute
of Oceanography. Mr. Flick indicated that this is an
eroding coastline due to the tectonic setting, climate,
and exposure to wave action. With the aid of a slide
present at ion, Mr. Flick explained that the Oceanside
Boat Harbor has contributed to the maldistribution of
sand, but cannot be blamed for all of the problem since
there are many other contributing factors including a
net loss of sand. He suggested there needs to be a new
source of sand, a way transporting that new sand to the
beach, and then a way of trying to keep it there.
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Dr. Flick, with the aid of charts, explained predictions
for the astronomical tides through the year 2000, the
steady increase in the yearly mean sea level, and
unpredictable affects of the weather on that mean sea
level.
Mr. Don Spencer , Chief of Shore Protection with the
Corps of Engineers, continued with the presentation.
With the use of a slide presentation, Mr. Spencer
presented the Corps' policy on beach erosion control and
types of improvements in which they may participate
financially. He also displayed examples of improvements
which were constructed with partial federal funding,
Mr. Spencer then referred to the Coast of California
Storm and Tidal Wave Study and detailed the purpose of
the study, factors to be considered in the study, and
noted it would take six years to complete the study for
a particular region. He concluded by listing the many
reports which would result from the study.
Mr. Mick Kelly, General Manager of Beach Builders of
California gave a report regarding the proposed artificial seaweed project, Mr. Kelly first gave a
history of his company and displayed a piece of the art if icial seaweed and explained the method of
implanting the seaweed. He then presented a film which
explained the purpose of the artificial seaweed project
how it works, and areas where it is currently
installed.
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The City Manager, in conclusion of the presentation,
suggested a recess. He stated that following the recess all individuals invited as resource persons would
assemble at the front of the chambers to respond to
Council questions,
RECESS : I Mayor Casler declared a recess at 8:03 p.m. and Council
reconvened with dl Council Members present at 8:12
p.m.
The City Manager introduced the resource persons present
to respond to Council questions. Those present were:
Dana Whitson, City of Oceanside
Ray Koons , Construction Consultant
Richard Ledford, Office of Assemblyman Frazee
Stu Schaf fer, SANDAG
Mike Dudley, SDG&E
George Armstrong, State Boating & Waterways
Bill Fait, State Dept. of Parks and Recreation Dexter Wilson, Wilson Engineering
Sid Willard, State Dept. of Parks and Recreation
Rinehard Flick, Scripps Institute of Oceanography
Don Spencer, Corps of Engineers
Mick Kelly, Beach Builders of California
In response to Council query, Sid Willard clarified a
previous comment and stated that the beaches are
destined to migrate and move, and that movement must be
accommodated, She expressed the opinion that the
parking lot at Tamarack is in an unwise location.
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In response to query, Dr. Flick stated that erosion
caused by storms does not create beaches. He expressed
the opinion that problems arise when the areas become
over-developed and then the need is felt to stop the
erosion.
Mr. Flick expressed agreement with the State on the
process of erosion, but not necessarily on the solution
He stated that any solutions would be complex and
expensive. In response to query in regarding the
proposed seaweed project, Dr. Flick stated that any kin
of erosion protection that is low cost or experimental
has to be viewed as an experimental measure because it
is unproven. That does not mean it will not work, it
merely means it is experimental. In that regard, he
suggested that measuring techniques should be
established to determine whether the project is
successful and how successful .
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In response to query, Mr. Spencer indicated that the
Corps of Engineers does not fund experimental projects.
Mr. Kelly responded to questions explaining the seaweed
project in Long Beach. He indicated it is protected by a federal break water on one side, but is open to wave
action from the south. With regard to the reported
unsuccessful installation in Del Mar, he stated that
there were only 25 units installed for only three
months, which is too few for too short of time.
Mr. Bill Fait responded to query stating that the only
erosion control projects in effect by the State are a
ground squirrel control and periodic budgeting for
replacement of storm drains. He stated there are no
short or long range plans for preventing bluff erosion.
Mr. Spencer responded to query and explained the status
and progress and the sand by-pass system to be built in
Oceanside.
Mr. Armstrong commented that any state and local funding
programs go for secondary protection, and if any funding
assistance could be received for a project, it would
probably be in the form of federal assistance. He also
expressed the opinion that the only type of structure
that he had seen that works is a rip-rap sea wall with
well placed rocks.
Mayor Casler stated that the City has no sand on the
beaches and has a lot of sand in the lagoons. She
questioned whether it would be possible to provide the
City with a small dredge for constant dredging of the
lagoons to continually replace the sand on the beaches.
She questioned the possibility of funding assistance in purchasing the dredge with the City providing the on-
going maintenance and operation.
Mr. Armstrong indicated that there would be a need to
look at the entire scope of the project including a
study of the type of sand in our lagoons and whether it
would be appropriate for the beach. He suggested that
such a project would be beyond the scope of State
Boating & Waterways' programs.
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Mr. Fait read the policy of the State Department of
Parks and Recreation which discourages structures.
Discussion then related to the type of sand in the
lagoons and whether it would be suitable for use to
replenish the beaches.
In response to further questions, Mr. Kelly indicated
that if there is a greater than 8% slope, the seaweed
project would probably not be recommended.
Responding to query, Mr. Dudley of SDG&E stated that
their dredge is permanently located in the City;
however, it is fairly stationary and the cost of
dismantling it and moving it to another location would
be very high.
In conclusion, the City Manager identified the different
items that would be coming before Council in the future
which would require additional consideration because of
the beach erosion problem,
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Mayor Casler declared a recess at 9:25 p.m. and Council
reconvened at 9:36 p.m. with all Council Members
present.
Council discussion related to the next action that would
be required with regard to the beach erosion issue, and
the City Manager indicated that some form of Council
action would be needed regarding the artificial seaweed
project prior to June 13. Council determined to meet at
5:OO p.m. on 3une 5, 1984, to discuss the issue.
(97) 2. AB 117761 - RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AGREEMENT FOR
(45) FARADAY ROAD - BECKMAN INSTRUMENTS.
After a brief report by the City Attorney, Council
adopted the following Resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. 7612 , APPROVING A RIGHT OF WAY
ACQUISITION AGREEMENT FOR FARADAY ROAD BETWEEN THE I CITY OF CARLSBAD AND BECKMAN INSTRUMENTS, INC, AND
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT,
(97) 3 AB #7762 - PASEO DEL NORTE . I
(45) The City Manager gave a staff a report on the matter as
contained in the Agenda Bill.
Council Member Lewis questioned whether the road could
be built using the bonds as provided,
In response, the City Attorney stated that if a
developer does not honor commitments, the City would
declare him in default of the agreement and would proceed to move against the bonds. In that event, the
bonding company would try to get the developer to pay
for the improvements but if they are unsuccessful, the
bonding company would litigate the matter extensively.
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Council Member Chick questioned the advantages of having
the road straight.
In response, the City Manager stated that staff believes
a straight road would be safer that a road with an "S"
curve,
Council directed the City Attorney to prepare documents
extending the time limit for completion of Paseo del
Norte from 3uly 17, 1984 to September 30, 1984; and
authorized the City Manager to apply to the Coastal
Commission for permit to realign Paseo del Norte betweer
Palomar Airport Road and Car Country.
As clarification, the City Attorney indicated that the
existing bonds could not be extended, Therefore, an
agreement would be developed to extend the approvement
agreement and new bonds would be required. He also
indicated that provision would need to be made for
acquiring the new right of way and vacating the old as
well as maintaining the alternate requirement for
building the road under the existing alignment in the
event the new alignment does not receive approval.
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Council expressed concurrence with the comments of the
City Attorney.
(26) 4. AB W7706 - Supplement 81 - 191 5 ACT: ASSESMENT
(79) DISTRICT FINANCING.
City Attorney gave a staff report on the matter as
contained in the agenda bill.
Council Member Chick referred to page 7 of the agenda
bill, paragraph 1, the last sentence, and expressed
concern about the wording which requires ''a pass throug
with a corresponding reduction in the sales price of th
house." He indicated that a reduction in the sales
price could already be built in and this wording may
cause confusion and attempts at additional reductions, He indicated that the lien should be covered in the
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The City Attorney suggested that the wording be modified
to delete the words "with a corresponding in" and insert "as a part of".
Council adopted Council Policy Statement No. 33
establishing procedures for assessment district
financing of public improvements, including the
suggested modification in Section 15.
ADOURNMENT
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 10 :08
p.m. to Tuesday, 3une 5, 1984 at 5:OO p,m. in the
Council Chambers.
Respectfully submitted,
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ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ
City Clerk
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