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Meeting of: CITY CDUNCZ (Regular Meeting)
Time of Meeting: 6:OO p.m. Date of Meeting: January 14, 1986
Place of Meetinq: City Council Chmhers
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Casler called ae meting to order at 6:OO p.m.
ROLL C?CL was taken by the Deputy City Clerk, as
folluiris:
Present - Council Menhers Casler, Lewis, Kulchin,
Chi& and Pettine.
Absent - None.
APPROVAL OF M.DTXFS:
Approval of the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held
Decerriber 17, 1985, was continued to January 21, 1986.
(79) 1. AB #7099 - Supplement #4 - 1986 PUBLIC FACILITY
FEE REXIEW AND UPDATE.
Jim Hagaman, Director of Research/Analysis, gave the
staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using
transparencies and wall &arts to illustrate the
tables mntained in the Agenda Bill.
Kim Kilkenny, 6336 Greenwich Drive, San Diego,
representing the Construction Industry Federation,
distributed copies of a report to Council Mabers
providing an analysis of the Public Facilities Fee expenditures. He summarized part of that report,
calling attention to the general cpvernmmt category.
He stated the percentage of fees spent cn this category was disproportionate and precluded Council €ran doing other things such as hilding roads and
parks. Mr. Kilkenny suggested capitalization as far
as the Public Safety Center and the use of that mney
for other projects. He stated Council was trying to
buy their facilities with cash. Therefore, they auld not buy as nu& for their mney. He suggested they borrm the mney for these expenditures and direct the
City Manager to mrk with the milding industry to
examine the feasibility of leveraging funds,
capitalizing the Public Safety Center and prioritizing
the Public Facilities Fees E'unds. He stated the
munt spent an government expenditures, due to the
Public Safety Center, was qproxjmately 69%.
City Manager Frank Aleshire stated that a year ago,
when the park deficiency was discussed, the Council
considered borrowing funds rather than pay-as-you-go,
and Council adopted the pay-as-ym-0 mthod. He
stated that when the renaval of the program was
considered, sane of mese projects could be
prioritized. If the cash flow were sufficient to pay
for those projects, it muld not be necessary to
capitalize or brrow and pledge the revenues from the
Public Facilities Fees Fund to py off the bnds. He
added there mst be a good projection of revenue
coming in to pay off the bnds.
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Council Merriber Lewis stated that had ben discussed an
the Public Safety Center and he recalled that Council
had praised the pblic that it mld be Wilt m a
pay-as-we-go basis .
Mayor Casler stated that the Council had determined
they would not brrm the mney to build the Safety
Center, and that was approved by a mjority of the
people.
Council Menher Chick stated he felt the suggestion to
borrm mney for Capital projects was a viable
alternative.
City Manager Frarik Aleshire stated that Council needed
to look & the current Public Facilities Fees list and
the arterial streets that my mt Ise in accord with
the current thinking of the City and determine whether
the City or the developer should pay for the
irprovement of those streets. He added there muld be assessment districts before the Council soon, so some
of the nunibers listed in the 1982 report should be
changed. He suggested Council go through the List and
consider ðer or nat all the projects are appropriate at this time. Mr. Aleshire stated the
list should be examined by Council and any projects
that need to be deleted should be discussed. Any projects that Council would like to add Should also be
discussed. He stated that an January 28, 1986, the
Palomar Airport Assessment District will be before
Council and the Cannon Road District should be before
Council within 30 days and decided within 60 days. La
Costa Boulevard and the three bridges over 1-5 would
be included in another funding program and mld not
need to be in the Public Facilities Fees List and
should be deleted.
Mayor Casler stated City Hall expansion should be
included on the list and Council Menbers mncurred.
She added the Senior Citizen Center should also be
included. If it were possible to receive
Redevelopment funds, -that could be taken care o€ at a
later date.
The Highway 78 widening was discussed, with Council
agreeing they need a further report an this item.
Item No. 4, Rancbo Del Or0 - Hicjhway 78 Access On/Off
Ramps, was to be paid for ly the developer and
therefore would not be included.
Item No. 5, the Railroad Bridge Widening at Palomar
Airport Road and Poinsettia, should have a mnplete
traffic study to determine whether two-lane or four-
lane bridges are needed. The City Manager stated this
project auld not be included on fhe other bridge and
thoroughfare funding program. Council requested mre
information on this item.
Gene Donovan, City Engineer, estimated a mnibination
of the two bridges over Palom Airport Road and
Poinsettia muld cost between four and five million dollars. 'He stated the estimates do need to ke
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It was determined that Item No. 6, Oliverihain Road
Connection to Leucadia Boulevard, is mt Carlsbad's
obligation. Hcwever, Council agreed they muld like to have the figures an the msts of the mmpletion of
this.
Item No. 8, ha& Area Irprovements - Parking/Access,
needs to have estimates suhnitted also.
Item No. 1, under Arts, 1% of Public Facilities Fees
Fund for the Arts, should not ke included in this
report, according to Mayor Casler. This mney is to
com from the Capital Improverrlent Fund and not from
the Public Facilities Fees Fund.
City Manager Frank Aleshire stated Tamarack
improvement between 1-5 and Carlsbad Boulevard was mt budgeted, and if Council wanted to widen Tmarack, that should be studied. Mayor Casler recomded. that
it also be included in the list.
City Manager Frank Aleshire stated that Palomar
Airport Road east of E1 Carnino Real, adjacent to the
Airport, had been part of an agreement ktween the
City and the county for the City to widen Palomar
Airpork Road and the county to widen El Camino Real
north of Palomar Airport Road. Mr. Aleshire suggested
that the half-mile from El Camino Real east should be
included on this list.
Mayor Casler inquired of Mr. Hagaman mether it was
his intent to have this item continued for a twc-nnnth
period, and he stated this wuld allw them to mqile
a wrk program.
Council continued the 1986 public Facilities Needs
List for two mnfhs for preparation of a work prqram with the inclusion of the requested projects for
consideration, and directed the City Manager to mrk
with other groups to discuss psible financing
alternatives.
(77) 2. AB #a73 - Supplement #1 - WIRK PROGRAM FOR NEW
LAND USE PROPOSAZ;S.
(77) 2. AB #a73 - Supplement #1 - WIRK PROGRAM FOR NEW
LAND USE PROPOSAZ;S.
Mike Holvniller, Planning Director, gave the staff
report as contained in the Agenda Bill.
Mayor Casler stated the LCP Program t&es precedence
over ~e General Plan inasmch as it has been approved
by a State agency.
Council Meniber Chick stated that he mld like to knm
what density reduction there would be &cause of the
LCP.
Frank Aleshire, City Manager, stated Gary Wayne has
been reviewing the impact of adopting the LCP and that
report is not completed at the present time. The LCP
does have lcwer densities in general %an the City's
General Plan. The report should be finished in
approximately a mnth.
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Mike Holzmiller explained fne grmth magement zones
as a three-part program with the Wee stages What",
"WhenClI and "Hm" . He used a &art to shw hm this would 'E applied to the developents in the City.
Mr. Holzmiller stated that the City would be divided
into eighteen zones and the developers would subnit a
phasing plan to the City. When that phasing plan was accepted, the hold on the projects wuld m off and the final naps and hilding permits auld be issued. He stated this would be progressing me step further
than dividing the City into the four quardrarrts, by
dividing it into eighteen zones, with separate phasing
plans for each of the zones.
In discussion, Mr. Holzmiller clarified the intent of
the phasing plans to be suhtitted by developers by
stating that if a small developer had sukmitted a
proposal for a project in an isolated area, he muld
need to fit this project into the entire overall
picture for that particular area.
Mr. Holzmiller stated staff felt there are already a nuniber of planning tools in place in the City and this will further implement the reconmendations of the
Citizens Cdttee and will also provide for mre
major decisions being mde up front ca? proposed
developwnts.
In answer to query, Mr. Holzmiller stated that projecsts that have already Et the mjority of the
requirements muld not have to delay their project any
longer than just enough tit to submit a phasing plan acceptable to staff and Council.
It was determined that it would be up to the developer
to sdt a phasing program as soon as psible. As
soon as that had been accepted by staff and Council,
the hold on final imps and building permits would ke
released. This could conceivably h as short a tirne
as one mth.
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Mayor Casler declared a recess at 7:53 p.m. I and
Council reconvened at 8:05 p.m., with all Members
present.
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2. AB #8473 - Supplement #1 - W3!3K PRQGFW4 FOR NEW
LAND USE PROPOSALS. (continued)
Pat O'Day, 2765 Sor&rosa Street, spoke in favor of the
proposed work program with the exception of the
prohibition of final qs. He stated he wanted Rand10
Santa Fe Road widened and felt any hold on those
projects having the requirement of improving that road
micjht slm Gam the improvemrrk of Rancho Santa Fe
Road. He said if there is a hold m final mps, this
could create mre wrk for staff.
Mary Ann Izner, 7034 Almaden Lane, La Costa corranunity
Awareness Group, spoke in favor of the proposed work
program, stating that Council decisions will affect
the future of dl1 of the citizens of Carlsbad.
Jon Briggs, 2650 Cdno Del Rio North, San Diego,
representing Sds Properties, stated they have the
only master plan approved in the last sixteen mnths
and have complied with all conditions imposed on their
project. Mr. Briggs stated that Item No. 3, placing a
hold on all ather final mps and luilding pennits
until a phasing program is develop&, Could result in
their having to go throucjh the same procedures that
they have already gone firoucjh.
Robert Lee, 3180 Camino Arroyo, stated planning was
not mrrpatible with the long-term needs. He stated
the planning rrust mrmlize the data at hand, and
stated his support for this plan.
William Dykes, 3152 Redhill Avenue, Costa Mesa,
representing Haws by Polygon, .stated his support for the plan. He also expressed a belief that three
mnths titre muld be sufficient rather ti?an six
mnths. He felt there was already a @hasing plan in
place and believed the City should process final qs.
He added if his project was placed on hold, it could
present problem with the lenders and the backers and
prove a problem as far as the inproventent of Rancho
Santa Fe Road. Mr. Dykes felt that Item No. 3 should
be eliminated.
Doug Avis, 11300 Sorrento Valley Road, Ste. 101, San
Diego, representing Bieri-Avis, stated they have Wo
of the pending master plans. He stated his support
for a m jority of fhe My of the staff report,
stating this clears up the responsibilities of the
developers and inplemerrts the pblic facilities in a
fair way. He stated if a developer cannot afford to
finance fie hprovements requested m a pro ject ,
perhaps that project is prenature. Mr. Avis asked for
t'hree anaendments: to reduce the perid of tim
application restriction to three mnths rather than six mnths; on restrictions m final qs,
consideration be given to projects such as Sarm-tis and a mthcd devised to allw such projects to continue.
He also asked Consideration I=e given to eliminating
the restriction an comnercial projects.
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David Resnidc, 2111 Palomar Airport Road #325,
representing Partin Bennett Financial Group, stated public facilities and infrastructure need to be
addressed. He stated the six-mn~ period was too
long, and felt that it should be less than three
mnths, or three mnths at mst. Mr. Resnick
suggested that industrial and comrcial developnt
should mt be stopped, On Item No. 3, Mr. Resnick
felt that if developers are stopped on mnditions they
have already met, this will create problem. He
suggested everyone work together and all ,prties be a
part of the solution.
Larry Clem, 7707 El Camino Real, representing HPI
Developlnent conp?any, stated that &ring the last year
they have created two mster plans for their
developwnt and he felt the mter plan they will
finally bring to the City will ke a del plan that
the City could use in the future. Mr. Clemns
supprted staff reconmendations and felt various
projects should have individual ansideration.
Joe Gallagher, 1165 Hoover, me in favor of the mrk
program, but stated that he muld rather see staff
take a threemnth tim ,period and then report badk to
Council hw they were progressing througln this work
program. If a longer time were needed, then another
three mnths auld be granted at that time.
Bob Ladwig, 3088 Pi0 Pia, Rick Ehgineering, presented
a prepared letter to Council Menbers and read the
letter into the record. Mr. Ladwig stated that he
agreed with Items 1 through 7, except for Item No. 3.
Mr. Ladwig suggested that an Item D be added to No.
1, nonresidential applications. Mr. Ladwig suggested that two autside planners be lhired to help corylete
the work in the Planning Department and that
developers be requested to wluntarily withhold
applications while staff is mqdeting their wxk
Program.
Don Woodward, 5100 Campus Drive, N-rt Beach, spoke
in favor of the wrk program, concurring with Mr.
Ladwig' s remarks.
Jim Hicks, 2910 Managua Place, stated that Carlsbad is
a unique cmmmity and approximately forty to forty-
five people am ae mjority of the large pieces of
land. He stated that all property mers should be treated equally. He felt the problem the City is
having are regional in scope. Mr. Hicks also felt
that applications should be held mly three mnths--
not six mnths. He stated the building permits and final mps provide ae funds to get the
infrastructures built.
Richard Glenn, P.O. Box 1540, representing Seafarrns
West, stated he mns an agricultural business and is
basically in favor of the mrk program as
recomnded.
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Jams Courtney, 4914 Avila, spcke as a mmber of the
Land Use Review Camittee, stating that he was mt
really for or against the work program, but felt it
was redundant. Mr. Courtney stated the General Plan
did a fine job and only guaranteed minirrolm density to
any developer, with everything else being neptiated.
He felt time was needed to allm staff to implement
the remndations of the Land Use Camittee and he
felt the mst impact of what a six-mnth shutdm
would entail wuld be mre of a problem to the City
and take away Cbllars that are needed to install
inprovemnts.
Kim Kilkenny, 6336 Greenarch Drive, stated that
evewing had been said at this pint and he was just
stating his approval.
John Brand, 5451 Oberlin Drive, San Diego,
representing John Lu& Conpany, stated he supported
the majority of the work program as proposed, but
would like to see the applications processed in a
shorter .time than the six-mnth limit proposed.
Christopher Garrett, Suite 2100, 701 B. Street, San
Diego, representing California Federal Enterprises,
reconmended Council receive input from the City
Attorney as to the legal issues in the proposed mrk
program. He stated the City Attorney should give
Council direction m any c3nanges *at they made and any impacts that there would ke cn the welfare of the
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Steve Ludlw, 2421 E. Southern Ave, Tqe Arizona,
representing U.S. Home Corporation, stated that he
agrees that something needed to b &ne regarding the
public facilities and added, hmever, that financial
arrangements and substantial sms of mney were
expended in the processing of qs.
Chuck Colton, 5150 Avenida Encinas, representing Daon
Corporation, stated they were supportive of dealing with the infrastruckure and supportive of the Planning staff. He stated they were mt supporkive of a
building mratorium and stated DaOn wld be willing to fund or partially fund the providing of additional
staff people to expedite the processing of the phasing
plans and the infrastructure plans in Lieu of the
propals as mde. He expressed amcem &out -the
improvement of Rand10 Santa Fe Road and the ability of
Daon to mild those inprovemnts if their final qs
were put an hold.
F'rank mla, 8062 Adam Ave, Huntington Beach, stated
the facilities can not be inplemented until there is
development to pay for them. He stated that his campany, and he felt other mnpanies, wxld 'ke willing
to contribute mney or staff tirne to help the Planning
Department "unload the tunnel". He stated they should
not infringe on the approved tentative naps as fhese provide for the infrastructure, and that cannut lx
done if there is a mratorium placed on dwelopment.
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Andrew Wright, 4330 La Jolla Village Drive, San Diego,
representing Lincoln Property carpany, stated his
opposition to Item No. 3, placing a hold on final maps
and hilding permits until the phasing program is
developed for the areas of the City in hi& the
project is located. He stated that the mdtrrent by
developers takes place prior to getting the final map
approval and that ninety-five prcent of the mney has
been comitted at that pint. He asked for No. 3 to
be &anged to include tentatively approved projects
and to allm those to aontinue.
Charles Christensen, 444 West C. street, Suite 400,
San Diego, spoke in favor of the mrk program as recammded, with two additions. He felt No. 3 should
apply to tentative imp approval conditions, as they
had been imposed on the developers. He stated the
developers rely on "mse anditions being the
conditions they must aortply with. He also felt the
tirrte for submittal should be reduced to 90 days.
Council Mer Kulcrhin inquired of the City Attorney
regarding the &ages in @icy and Mr. Biondo stated
Council could imp1-t all or mne of t&e program as
recorrpuended or any place in between. He said it was a
,Oolicy matter for Council to decide.
In answer to query, Mike Holzmiller stated that
projects could not be exeTted, but if they were very
close to what staff muld anticipate being part of the
program, as soon as the details were worked out, they
would be allmed to continue with fheir project.
Mayor Casler reiterated that it auld take as few as
30 days to aom up with a phasing program approval for
projects that are nearly in compliance at the present time.
Council Meniber Chick stated that he felt that som of
the projects in the City are 1713t being studied as they
should be and are not king mnitored closely enough.
He also added that the assessment districts should be in place by m. He felt the City does need a plan,
but he felt a mratorium was not needed.
Council Mer Pettine mde a mtion to adopt the work
program in its entirety, as presented. Council Merciber
Lewis seconded the mtion.
Council Mer Chi& mde a mtion to amend the
original mtion to strike Item 3 on page 4 of the
staff report. Mayor Casler seconded the mion for
the anenmt.
Mayor Casler stated she could agreed with No. 3, as
the applicants auld have a plhasing program developed
as quickly as me mna.
Council Mer Chick wit&drew his mendment to the mtion, with the ansent of the second.
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Council M-r Chick mved an mendtwnt under Section
D to add Item (9) to add comcial and industrial
projects to be exempted. This would also call for the
elimination of Section D under Item No. 2. Mayor
Casler seconded the mtion for the dent.
Council amended the original mtion as follc~nrs:
Itern No. 1 to contain an Item (D) to exempt industrial
and mmrcial elications. Under Item No. 2 strike
Item D.
Council Metthr Chick clarified his previous
statemnts, stating that he felt there mst be strong administrative program to address the mjor issues in
the City. He felt this was mt being done and he
would call for that to lx &ne.
Mayor Casler stated she hop3 staff would give regular
reports on their wrk progress and finish their wrk
in a shorter period of time -than the six mnths
estimated in the report.
Council accepted the proposed work program for new
land use proposals as presented, with t3ne previously
accepted amendment.
(78) 3. AB #a74 - SPEED LIMIT ON ELM AVENUE FROM EL WINO REAL TO TAMARACK AVENUE.
This item was continued to January 21, 1986.
( 100) 4 AB #7665 - SUppkYEIIt #2 - DELETION OF TRANSIEWT
OCCUPANCY TAX AT STATE PARK CAMP SITES.
This item was mntinued to January 21, 1986,
(28) 5. AB #a75 - DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPOINTMENT.
This item was continued to January 21, 1986.
( 74) 6 CLOSED SESSION.
The Closed Session to discuss employee relations
was mntinued to 5:OO p.m., ~anuary 21, 1986.
AWOURNMENT:
By proper mtion the Meeting of January 14, 1986, was
adjourned at 9:45 p.m. to 5:OO p.m., January 21, 1986,
in the Council Chambers.
Respectfully submitted, 5 UT* Re KUNM'Z Deputy City Clerk
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