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Meeting of : CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting)
Date of Meeting: July 21, 1967
Time of Meeting: 6:OO p.m.
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers COUNCIL 559 "0 4
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CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Lewis called the Meeting to order at 6:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL was taken by the Deputy City Clerk, as
follows:
Present: Council Members Lewis, Kulchin,
Pettine, Mamaux and Larson.
Absent : None.
INVOCATION was given by Reverend Cathy Ellicott-Carver
of the Unity Center of Christ Church.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Council Member
Kulchin.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (one motion)
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held June 16, 1987, were Lewis
approved as presented. Kulchin XI
Pettine 1
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held 3une 23, 1987, were Mamaux )
approved as presented. Larson J
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, Lewis
as follows: Kulchin x;
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WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING:
Council waived the reading of the text of all Ordinances
and Resolutions at this Meeting.
1. AB f8882, 89080 and 89081 - Supplements Sf1 -
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS: GPA/LU 86-4; GPA/LU 86-6;
AND GPA/LU 86-12 - DOCUMENTS FOR APPROVAL - CITY OF
CARLSBAD .
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9161, amending the
Land Use Element of the General Plan to include
childcare as a goal of the General Plan; to change
the land use designation for one area of the City'
General Plan and to change the text to implement
existing R-2 lots to be developed with duplexes.
GPA/LU 86-4 - City of Carlsbad; GPA/LU 86-6 - City
of Carlsbad (S/ of Corte de la Vista and EjAlicante
Road); and GPA/LU 86-12 - City of Carlsbad (R-2
lots to be developed with duplexes).
2. AB 89045 - Supplement # 1 - 1986-87 STREET OVERLAY
PROGRAM.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9162, accepting a bid
and awarding Contract No. U/M-13 for the 1986-87
street overlay program to South Coast Asphalt
Products Company.
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CONSENT CALENDAR: (Continued)
(105) 3. AB $19096 - AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT -
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PARKING LOT PROJECT.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9163, approving
contract amendment with the County of San Diego to reallocate Community Development Block Grant
funding.
(50) 4. AB 89097 - REFUND OF FEES.
Council approved the refund of $1,073.24 to Hatton
Company for overpayment of fees.
(104) 5. AB 89098 - NORTH COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COALITION
APPOINTMENT.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9164, reappointing
Dr. Pat Lowry to the North County Transportation
Coalition (NCTC).
Mayor Lewis announced staff requested Item 811 be
continued until July 28, 1987.
ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION:
(67) 6. AB #8777 - Supplement #I - MUNICIPAL CODE REVIEW.
Council adopted the following Ordinance: Lewis
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ORDINANCE NO. 1296, AMENDING THE TITLES OF THE CARLSBAD
Mamaux MUNICIPAL CODE BY THE AMENDMENT OF VARIOUS CHAPTERS AND
Pettine
RECOMMENDED AS A RESULT OF CODE REVIEW.
Larson SECTIONS TO MAINTAIN THE CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW AS
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(43) 7. AB 119099 - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION
TO APPROVE THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY CHURCH -
CUP 87-2.
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, gave the
staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using
transparencies to show the site and wall maps with a
conceptual drawing of the proposed church.
Mr. Grimm stated the proposed church met all
requirements, including parking. The applicant has
agreed to install a 6-foot block wall around the
property, except in the front, to reduce the noise.
Mr. Grimm discussed the other uses surrounding the
church area, stating that staff and the Planning
Commissj.on recommended approval.
Mr. Grimm suggested that one condition be added, that
if or when the new church was built, the old building
would be demolished. Discussion determined the church only leases the present building, and would not be in
position to have it demolished.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS : (Continued)
Mayor Lewis stated the neighbors who signed the
petition against this proposed church were worried about the increase in density. Staff stated no
increase in density could occur in that zone because of
this project.
Council Members discussed the possibility of limiting
the hours of use by the church, as weJ-1 as the number
of days a week meetings could be held. The parkina was
discussed, with staff stating if a parking problem
arose, the CUP would come back to Council for
modification. If there were too many people for one
service on Sunday, the services could be split into two
or three. As far as noise, staff felt that conditions
could be placed on this project to mitigate the noise.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearinu at 6:18 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Kevin McCann, Attorney, 1905 Apple Street, Ste. 5, Oceanside, representing the applicant, addressed Council
stating this church had grown and needed a new location
to meet its needs. However, it is still a small church,
and would certainly not accommodate a large
congregation.
Mr. McCann explained the church wou1.d be heavily sound-
proofed to eliminate any possibility of disturbing the neighbors. He stated they had met with some of the
neighbors and had not been warmly received. The
closeness of this church to downtown would serve the
needs of the community, including the Hispanic
community. He expressed the opinion this neighborhood
was a transition area, and a church would be compatible
there.
Pastor Juan Hernandez, 178 Edgewood Drive, Oceanside,
gave the history of the church and the desire to build a
church for the community. He stated that many of the
members of this church walk to church, and this location
would be easily reached. He added that the architecture
of the church would be complementary to the area.
Pastor Hernandez told of the flooding each year at the
present church site, and the smallness of the
structure, necessitating the children's classes meeting
outside. He felt this was dangerous for the children
due to the close proximity of the railroad tracks. At the present time, there are 70 members in the
congregation. Paster Hernandez stated it has taken a
long time to get to this size congregation, and he felt it would take many years to outgrow the proposed
church.
In answer to query regarding the hours the church would
be in use, Pastor Hernandez stated there would be
services on Tuesday and Thursday, from 7:OO p.m. to 9:OO
p.m., and Sunday from 1O:OO a.m. until noon and on
Sunday evenings from 5:OO to 7:OO p.m. At other times
there would be small ministerial meetings.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
In answer to Council question regarding the music to be
played in the church, Pastor Hernandez replied all
music would be indoors and would not be loud enough to
disturb the neighbors.
Donald Yerkes, 6733 Clover Court, appraiser, addressed
Council on the transition of the neighborhood, telling
of the offices located in the area, the Girls' Club, the Christian Science Church and the other uses in the
area. He stated he considered this site an excellent
church site, with the freeway and the park nearby. As
far as reducing the property values in the area, Mr.
Yerkes stated he had never seen property values
diminish because of a church.
Sheila Musser, 1232 Pine Avenue, spoke in opposition to
the proposed church, ref erring to a petition given to
Council Members. She stated the neighbors want this to remain a residential area, and feel the church would
create a parking problem and increase traffic as the congregation grew. As the church grew, it was feared
the problems would increase, and they would only have
to apply to the City for additional use time in the
church. Mrs. Musser stated Holiday Park is a very busy
park, and parking is at a premium on weekends and
holidays. She gave photographs to Council Members showing the area and the traffic and parking problems.
Regarding the question of the density being changed in
the neighborhood, Mike Holzmiller stated the only time
this would go to a vote of the people would be if the number of dwellings allowed under Proposition E was
exceeded due to a zone change.
William Morrow, a neighbor to the east and directly
adjoining the proposed church, spoke in opposition to
the church, stating the traffic would increase by his home, and he wanted this area to remain residential. He
stated the parking would be 20 feet from his house and would be right under his livingroom and bedroom
windows. He concluded, requesting that Council
preserve the neighborhood.
Alexa Holmes, 1344 Pine Avenue, spoke in opposition to
the proposal, stating the traffic is already at a
dangerous level, particularly for children playing in
the driveways.
Pat Hallinand, 1366 Pine Avenue, spoke in opposition to
the church site, stating the traffic and congestion are
already at a point where heavier use would be intolerable, and requested protection from over-
congestion.
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Ann Geissinger, 2368 Spruce Street, stated she owns
property in the area where the church is proposed, and
expressed concerns about parking. She felt the church
should find an adequate location where it could expand. She felt the 6-foot wall to control the noise would not
help if the structure itself was not soundproof and the windows and doors were left open.
3oe Kratcoski, 1302 Pine, spoke in opposition to the
church. He stated that the parking would not be
sufficient, and questioned how many persons would use
the classrooms and where they would park.
Ken Matler, 574 Sandalwood, El Ca,jon, Insurance Agent,
spoke for the church, stating churches in residential
areas are not a problem, and are usually a plus. He
stated this is a small church, and he believed that
these people would be good neighbors.
Eleno Saldovar, 2737 Jefferson, BG, spoke in favor of
the church, and stated this was a good location for the
church.
Josefa Maturino, 3096 Roosevelt, spoke in favor of the
church.
Maria Maturino, 3096 1/2 Roosevelt, spoke in favor of
the Apostolic Church.
Paula Vasquez, 3380 Harding, $14, addressed Council
stating her belief the church should be approved. The
children need to have classes indoors where it would be
safe.
Soledad Magana, 257 Roosevelt, spoke as a Member of the
Apostolic Assembly. She stated she hoped the church
would be approved because of her children.
Luis Sendejas, spoke in favor of a place of worship
where they could understand the messages.
Evelila Nava, 1742 Loretta Street, spoke in favor of
building the church, stating that the present location
is very dangerous.
Francisco Nava also spoke in favor of the church.
3aime 3ural spoke in favor of the church. He stated
that there is already noise from the freeway and from
loud car radios in the area.
Rosa Magana, 2775 Roosevelt, spoke in favor of building
the church on this lot.
Myrna Nava spoke in favor of having classrooms for
children, as she feels they need to meet indoors away
from the railroad tracks.
Frank De La Cruz, spoke in favor of the church, also
translated into English for the members of the church.
He stated they already had spent $25,000 on this
project and that the church members have sacrificed a
lot to be able to build this church.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Myrtle Broam, 3375 Adams? reauested that Council deny
the CUP because of lack of parking and limited space.
Jan Taylor, 351 Pine, spoke in opposition to the
request, asking this area to remain residential. She
stated the residents are upgrading their residences in
that area and want a peaceful place to live.
Cesar Herrera, 537 Brooks, Oceanside, spoke in favor of
the church, stating the neighbors should consider the young children who are in a dangerous situation at the
present location. He felt the church would be an
asset to the neighborhood and the City.
Obie O'Bryant, 1155 Oak Avenue, spoke against the
church being in this neighborhood, stating he had seen them serving food at their present location, and did
not want a food kitchen in the area. He stated the
parking on Sunday is critical in that area, and felt
the drawing shown of the church and parking Lot was not
accurate. Mr. O'Bryant stated the church should be
built in a larger area.
Ann Cole, 1158 Oak, agreed the church should have a new
location, but not in a neighborhood where they would not be able to expand.
Peter Taylor, 1351 Pine Avenue, spoke in opposition to
the Location of the church. He stated he had moved to
Carlsbad because the City has shown a commitment to
preserving residential areas and requested that Council
not jeopardize the zoning in this neighborhood.
Attorney Kevin McCann stated it would be unfair to tie
the demolition of the present building to the building of the new church, especially since that building is
owned by someone else.
In answer to query from Council, Mr. McCann stated the
applicant contemplates three rooms would be used for
Sunday School meetings, and no day school or nursery
school is planned for the proposed facility.
Pastor Hernandez stated the congregation is not as
large as they would like it to be, but would hope to
grow with the years. If and when the congregation
became too large for one seating on Sunday, they would
split the services. When asked how they would split
the Tuesday and Thursday services, in case those became
too large, Pastor Hernandez replied they would have to
provide a plan.
Kevin McCann spoke in rebuttal, stating the church
would be for the betterment of the City, and there is a
growing pattern of churches in residential
neighborhoods. Mr. McCann felt this church had
mitigated any noise problem it might cause, and to deny
the church the right to build there would be denying an
important service.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Donald Reed, 1245 Basswood, addressed Council. He told
of problems with parking with the Christian Science
Church, and stated the parking in this area is
particularly critical.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public hearing was closed at 7:58 p.m.
Council Member Pettine suggested this matter be continuec
and staff bring back additional conditions to mitigate
the problems of locating a church at this site. Mayor
Lewis concurred with continuing this item.
Council Members Kulchin, Larson and Mamaux stated they
wished to make a decision tonight. They indicated that
they felt this was not the proper site for the church.
The conditions that would be placed on the church would
be so restrictive that the site would not be usable.
Council Member Pettine made a motion to continue the Lewis
matter for two weeks to allow both parties to meet Kulchin
with the Planning Department to work out the Pettine X
differences. Mayor Lewis seconded the motion. Mamaux
Motion failed due to the lack of a majority. Larson
Council directed the City Attorney's office to return Lewis
with documents granting the appeal to deny CUP 87-2. Kulchin
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Council Member Pettine stated he would support this
motion as he felt the compatibility issue had not been
decided, and he suggested the church should supply more information.
RECESS :
Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 8:12 p.m., and Council
re-convened at 8:25 p.m., with all Members present.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
8. AB #9100 - REQUEST TO PREPARE LOCAL FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR ZONE 25.
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, gave the
staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using a
transparency to show Zone 25. Mr. Grimm reported that
99% of the property owners had agreed that the plan be
prepared.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 8:30 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
George Williamson, Lightfoot Planning Group, 702 Fourth
Street, Oceanside, requested Council to approve their
request to prepare the Local Facilities Management Plan for Zone 25.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the
public hearing was closed at 8: 32 p.m.
Council authorized the Lightfoot Planning Group to Lewis
prepare the Local Facilities Management Plan for Zone Kulchin
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9. AB /I9101 - ZCA-200 - LOCATION OF COMMUNILTY
DIRECTIONAL SIGNS - CITY OF CARLSBAD.
Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the staff
report as contained in the Agenda Bill. He stated this
amendment would allow the Planning Director to make
changes to future locations.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 8:36 p.m., and
issued the invitation to spsak.
Mike Pack, SunCal Sign Company, 8390 Miramar Place, San
Diego, expressed approval of this ordinance. He stated
this would not provide for more sites, but would provide
for redistribution when necessary.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the
public hearing was closed at 8:38 p.m.
Council adopted the Negative Declaration issued by the Lewis
Planning Director and introduced the following Kulchin X
Ordinance: Pet t ine
Mamaux ORDINANCE NO. 9834, AMENDING TITLE 21, CHAPTER 21.41 OF Larson
THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE BY REVISIONG SECTION
21.41.076 (C) (1) TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY
COMMUNITY DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.
IO. A6 /I9102 - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL FOR
DRIVE-THRU FINANCIAL BUILDING - SP-187(A)/CUP-304 -
LINCOLN SAVINGS & LOAN.
Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the staff report
as contained in the Agenda Bill, using a transparency to
show the site, and wall charts showing the location of
the proposed drive-through. He stated the major issue is that this is part of the regional shoppina center. Staff
has discouraged drive-throughs in a regional shopping
center. They are not compatible. Therefore, staff and
Planning Commission recommended denial.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 8:51 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Ron Roberts, representing Lincoln Savings & Loan and
Hughes Investments, addressed Council, reviewing the
history of this plan. He stated that drive-through
restaurants were strongly opposed by previous Councils,
but a financial drive-through had not been specifically refused. He explained the building size had been
reduced to eliminate any traffic congestion, and five
different options had been submitted to staff, with the
best design being selected. Mr. Roberts stated there
would only be approximately 30 cars a day through the facility, with the peak time averaging six cars per
hour.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Mr. Roberts felt this drive-through facility would
complement the regional center and would not open the
door for other drive-through facilities, as they would
have to come before Council for approval.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the
public hearing was closed at 9:lO p.m.
Council directed the City Attorney's office to prepare Lewis
documents denying the appeal of SP-I87(A) and CUP-304. Kulchin
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11. AB /I7099 - Supplement #8 - PUBLIC FACILITIES FEE
ANNUAL REVIEW AND UPDATE.
This item was continued for one week.
HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION:
Council adjourned to the Housing and Redevelopment
Commission at 9:19 p.m., and re-convened at 9:23 p.m.,
with all Members present.
DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
12. AB /I7439 - Supplement A2 - AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON
BOARD SAIL REQUEST.
Dave Bradstreet, Director of Parks & Recreation, gave
the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using
transparencies to show the alternatives for use of the
lagoon and slides showing the lagoon and legal access.
Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent, continued the
report, showing the alternatives and explaining them,
and stating staff's recommendation was Alternative f4.
She stated staff was flexible and would like to make the
lagoon and beach areas available for all people.
In answer to query, staff indicated Alternative #5 is
the existing Ordinance. Mrs. Chase indicated staff intended to change the dates to June 15 through
September 15, which would be more realistic for the peak
time.
Robert German, Risk Manager, stated mixed use on the
lagoon will increase the liability risk. There will be
cross-overs and conflicts, with additional exposure due
to the volume and number of uses attempting to use the
lagoon during peak periods.
This item was continued to July 28, 1987. Staff is to
bring a further report on the slalom course conditions
and the special use area.
Dave Bradstreet stated he would work with all involved
parties during the coming week to obtain a careful plan for use of the lagoon and try to satisfy all users of
the lagoon.
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DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS: (Continued)
(28) 13. A5 #9104 - PUBLIC ACCESS TO BOARD AND COMMISSION
(67) MEETINGS.
This item was continued one week.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
There was no one present to speak during the Public
Comment portion of the Meeting.
CLOSED SESSION:
(41) 14. CLOSED SESSION PENDING LITIGATION.
Council adjourned to a Closed Session at 1O:OO p.m., to
consider pending litigation Jackson, et a1 v. City of
Carlsbad, et al, pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(a), and re-convened at 10:13 p.m., with all
Members present.
Council heard the report and directed the City Attorney
to proceed with the litigation process.
I ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the meeting of July 21, 1987, was
adjourned at 10:14 p.m.
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I Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk
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