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Meeting of: CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting)
Date of Meeting: August 4, 1987
Time of Meeting: 6:OO p.m. Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
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CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Lewis called the Meeting to order at 6:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk, as follows:
Present: Council Members Lewis, Kulchin,
Pettine, Mamaux and Larson.
Absent : None.
INVOCATION was given by Father A1 Capuchino.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Council Member Mamaux.
PRESENTATION:
Council Member Kulchin presented a plaque to City Clerk
Lee Rautenkranz, 1986-87 President of the North County
Chapter of California Women in Government.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar,
as follows:
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING:
Council waived the reading of the text of all Ordinance
and Resolutions at this Meeting.
(43) 1. AB f9102 - Supplement #\I - RESOLUTION DENYING
(113) APPEAL AND UPHOLDING PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL OF
A DRIVE-THROUGH FINANCIAL BUILDING - SP 187(A)CUP-
304 - LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9178, denying the
appeal and upholding the Planning Commission's
denial of a drive-through financial building for
Lincoln Savings & Loan.
(74) 2. AB #9113 - AMENDING THE CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR EQUIPMENT MECHANIC I AND 11.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9179, amending
the classification plan of the City to revise the
classifications of Equipment Mechanic I and 11.
(99) 3. AB 83737 - Supplement #5 - ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS OF RANCHO LA CUESTA - CARLSBAD TRACT
NO. 79-4. UNIT 5.
Council accepted the public improvements,
authorized the City Clerk to release bonds, and
directed the Utilities and Maintenance Department
to commence maintaining the public improvements
associated with Carlsbad Tract No. 79-4, Unit 5,
(Rancho La Cuesta).
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CONSENT CALENDAR: (continued)
4. AB #9114 - ESTABLISHING THE TAX RATES FOR FISCAL
YEAR 1987-88 FOR LIBRARY AND SEWER GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9180, fixing the
amount of revenue from property taxes necessary to
pay the bonded indebtedness of the "1962 Sewer
bonds, series A, B and C, If and "1966 Library
Bonds" for fiscal year 1987-88; and
RESOLUTION NO. 9181, setting the tax rate for the
1987-88 fiscal year.
5. AB W9065 - Supplement fl - 1986-87 SLURRY SEAL
PROGRAM.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9186, accepting bids
and authorizing the execution of contract no. U/M-
15 for the 1986-87 slurry seal program.
6. AB 89115 - AGREEMENT WITH BUENA VISTA SANITATION
DISTRICT FOR LEASE OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN THE
ENCINA OUTFALL.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9182, authorizing
execution of an agreement between the Buena
Sanitation District and the City of Carlsbad for
lease of additional capacity in the Encina Outfall.
7. AB /I7797 - Supplement #I - EXTENSION OF BANKING
SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH SAN DIEGO TRUST AND SAVINGS
BANK.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9183, authorizing
the extension of the Banking Service Agreement with
San Diego Trust & Savings Bank.
8. A8 f9116 - ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS -
ARBUCKLE PLACE - P.D. 260.
Council accepted improvements, authorized the City
Clerk to record the Notice of Completion, release
bonds, and directed the Utilities and Maintenance
Department to commence maintaining the public
street associated with this subdivision.
ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION:
9. AB 89111 - MELROSE DRIVE SPEED ZONE - ALGA ROAD TO
RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD.
Council adopted the following Ordinance:
1 Larson 10.44.240 TO ESTABLISH THE SPEED LIMIT ON MELROSE
? Mamaux THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE BY THE ADDITION OF SECTION
1 Pettine ORDINANCE NO. 3218, AMENDING TITLE IO, CHAPTER 10.44 OF
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DRIVE FROM ALGA ROAD TO RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD.
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ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION: (Continued)
IO. AB 89110 - ALGA ROAD SPEED ZONE - EL FUERTE STREET
TO MELROSE DRIVE.
Council adopted the following Ordinance: Lewis
ORDINANCE NO. 3217, AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 10.44 OF Pettine THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE BY THE REVISION OF SECTION
10.44.090 TO EXTEND THE SPEED ZONE ON ALGA ROAD FROM EL Mamaux
FUERTE STREET TO MELROSE DRIVE. Larson
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11. AB f9104 - PUBLIC ACCESS TO BOARD AND COMMISSION
MEETINGS.
Council adopted the following Ordinance: Lewis
ORDINANCE NO. 1297, AMENDING TITLE 2, CHAPTER 2.08 OF Pettine THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE BY THE ADDITION OF SECTION
2.08.100 TO REQUIRE ALL MEETINGS OF THE CITY'S BOARDS, Mamaux
COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Larson
Mayor Lewis requested Item 817 be taken out of order at
this time, and Council concurred.
DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
17. AB /I9099 - Supplement #I - RESOLUTION GRANTING
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APPEAL AND DENYING CUP 87-2 - APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY
CHURCH.
Alexa Holmes, 1344 Pine Avenue, addressed Council
stating the only issue is land use.
William games Morrow, 1210 Pine Avenue, spoke against
granting the CUP, stating the only issue was the proper
and prudent use of a 90 x 200 foot residental lot in the
eleven hundred block of Pine Avenue. The lot would only
allow construction of a maximum of two family dwellings,
which would impact the neighborhood much less than a 135
seating capacity church with no room to expand. Mr.
Morrow stated the area is saturated with activity and
can't handle a high-use development in that area. He
reiterated the high traffic volume and dangerous
intersection at Pine, Basswood and Eureka, along with
the other high density uses, already contribute to the
congestion in the area.
William M. Smith, 1671 games Avenue, stated he would not
read the letter he wrote to the Council as long as it
was entered into the record. He referred to the last
paragraph of the letter where he asked Council Members
to attend this church and give themselves more time
before they commit the City to an unpleasant situation.
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Patrick Hallinan, 1366 Pine Avenue. was recognized by
Council and stated this was a land use issue. and could
result in the loss of peace and serenity for the
neighborhood. He felt there were other sites that would
be more suitable for this church and asked the church
to look elsewhere for a site where there were no
problems with congestion.
Shiela Musser, 1232 Pine Avenue, addressed Council
stating the traffic in this area has worsened, and five
stop signs have been installed recently. She stated her
concern for a well-planned land use in this area.
3ohn Thorndike, 295 Chestnut, Apt. 119, referred to a
memorandum he had written to Council. He stated the
moving of the church to the proposed location would
certainly be an improvement over the present location. He added landowners cannot be prevented from building on
their property unless it can be proven it would impose a
burden upon the public. In this instance, the City
would have to prove this would impose such a burden.
Kevin McCann, Attorney for the applicant, stated the
church had a right to have their church in this
location, and the feelings of the neighborhood could not
be the ruling force. He said the off-street parking
requirements were adequate, the access was approved by
staff, and the noise mitigation and aesthetic qualities
were approved by staff. In answer to concerns about
parking, Mr. McCann showed slides taken on a Sunday morning at different times, showing empty parking spaces
in that area.
Mr. McCann stated the applicant had agreed to enter into
an agreement with the City and the neighbors to allow
public parking at the church site during non-church
hours. Also, the office building at Pine and Pi0 Pic0
would agree to enter into a reciprocal parking agreement
to allow the church to use their 15 parking spaces.
Mr. McCann asked the Council to re-think their position
and allow the church to conduct services in the
neighborhood.
Pastor guan Hernandez, 178 Edgewood Drive, Oceanside, spoke on behalf of the Apostolic Church, stating the
members of this church are also members of the
neighborhood and also use the park. He stated the
members are willing to work with the neighbors and the
City, as many of them are also property owners.
Pastor Hernandez asked Council to give the church the
support it needs to build its church.
In answer to Council query, Pastor Hernandez stated the church wuld use the building nine to ten hours a week for I
services.
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Mike Holzmiller stated a CUP can be conditioned in any
way Council determined, as long as it was reasonable anlf did not restrict the use requested to the point where i.;
could not functionally operate. This church could be
restricted as far as use, hours of operation, landscaping, parking, and even as to the number of
members since that related to parking.
In answer to Council query regarding traffic, 3ohn
Cahill stated the recently completed improvements in
that area called for three stop signs. As the
improvements neared completion, it became apparent the
existing configuration was not working, so two
additional stop signs were installed. A transparency was used to show the intersection and the additional
stop signs.
Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer, in answer to Council
query, stated the last traffic count was taken in 1985,
and this added traffic would not create a problem for
the street.
Council Member Pettine stated he questioned the
compatibility of the land use and would need to look
at the conditions.
Council Member Kulchin stated the street in the area is
narrow and inadequate for the proposed use and this
would add to an already heavily impacted area.
Council Members Mamaux and Larson commented on the
existing traffic impacts in the area.
Mayor Lewis stated he felt the traffic could be handled
because of the hours of the church functions.
Council adopted the following Resolution: Lewis
RESOLUTION NO. 91 87, GRANTING THE APPEAL AND Pettine
OVERTURNING THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION Mamaux
GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CHURCH TO Larson
BE BUILT ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1198 PINE AVENUE.
The City Attorney stated, for the record, that there was a typograhical error on page 2, line 18, of the Resolution wherein the word "site" would be changed to
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12. AB %9117 - RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD/MELROSE DRIVE
INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
City Engineeer Lloyd Hubbs gave the initial staff report,
stating he had received a letter today from the City of
San Marcos, and he distributed copies to Council. Bob
Johnson, Traffic Engineer, continued the report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using a transparency to
show the proposed alignment. He added staff would
continue to work with the City of San Marcos with the
internal circulation of the industrial park.
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Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 7:23 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Tom Anthony, 1378 San Pablo Drive, San Marcos, owner of
the La Costa Meadows Industrial Center, addressed
Council, stating he was not opposed to a median on
Rancho Santa Fe Road, as this would make the road
safer, but he did not want his driveways closed.
Mr. Anthony stated there are over 1,200 people
working in the industrial park, and most of those
people must exit La Costa Meadows Drive. Mr.
Anthony felt there should be a signal at La Costa
Meadows Drive and Rancho Santa Fe Road, and also one at
Questhaven Road.
Hugh Terrell, Executive Vice President of the PTA, La Costa Elementary School, spoke about the death of one
of the parents at this intersection and referred to the
petition signed with regard to that intersection. He
stated he was in favor of Ultimate Alternate No.1 and
Interim Alternative No. 2, if there is a signalized
intersection. If not, Mr. Terrell stated he favored
Interim Alternative No. 1.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public hearing was closed at 7:30 p.m.
Council approved Ultimate Alternative No. 1,
maintaining the current alignment of Rancho Santa Fe
Road; and instructed staff to attempt to complete
agreements with San Marcos, San Diego County and La Costa Land Company to implement Interim Alternative No.
2 within 30 days.
Council determined that failing implementation of
Interim Alternative No. 2 within 30 days, the City
would proceed to the implementation of Interim
Alternative No. 1, signalization of the existing
intersection.
(112) 13. AB 88940 - Supplement #I - WEED ABATEMENT PUBLIC
HEARING TO HEAR PROTESTS TO COST ASSESSMENTS. I
Mike Smith, Fire Department, gave the staff report as
contained in the Agenda Bill.
Mayor Lewis requested a report on the Lake Calavera
area from the Interim City Manager.
Mayor Lewis opened the pubLic hearing at 7: 36 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak. Since no one wished to
speak on this item, the public hearing was closed.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Council adopted the following Resolution:
X Pettine RESOLUTION NO. 9184, CONFIRMING THE REPORT OF THE FIRE
Lewis
CHIEF SHOWING COST OF WEED ABATEMENT AGAINST EACH Mamaux
PARCEL OF LAND IN SAID REPORT, CONFIRMING THE COST, AND Larson
PROVIDING FOR COLLECTION ON THE REGULAR TAX BILL.
RECESS :
Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 7:27 p.m., and Council
re-convened at 7:47 p.m., with all Members present.
Kulchin
(77) 14. AB 119122 - ZONE 5 - LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PLAN (LFMP-5).
Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the initial
report, with Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, continuing the report, using transparencies
to show Zone 5. He explained Zone 5 consists of non-
residential land uses, and a chart was used to indicate
the existing development. Mr. Grimm reported on the
eleven public facilities as contained in the memorandum
report from the Planning Director. He called attention to Fire Station #5, stating should it not be funded
through the CIP, the burden for funding would then
shift to the development community; otherwise
development will stop.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 8:08 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Ronald Rouse, Attorney, 2111 Palomar Airport Road,
spoke on behalf of the four major property owners,
stating they were basically in agreement with the
Facilities Plan for Zone 5. However, they did request
some changes and modifications as contained in his
letter dated 3uly 1, 1987, to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Rouse stated new standards and/or fees were not authorized as part of the Local Facilities Plans, and
other zone plans had been approved without new
standards and fees. He felt such fees should not apply
to industrial and commercial development; particularly,
with regard to parks fees. He stated the buildings
had been built to contain open space and recreational
facilities that would be applicable to such businesses.
Mr. Rouse stated he recognized the need for parks in
residential communities, but would rather see those
funds expended in residential communilties where the
need exists. The proposed fee of 50 cents per foot is
vastly disproportionate to the existing fees attached to the residential sector. He stated the park fee should
be on a city-wide basis.
Bill Miller, 73 Engineer Road, San Diego, representing
Koll Company, addressed Council showing charts
indicating the share of PFF paid by Zone 5, and stated
he felt they had made an adequate contribution to the
park fund.
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Dean Greenberg, President of Centre Development, 2111
Palomar Airport Road, Suite 300, used graphs to indicat
San Diego vs Carlsbad office occupancy and industrial
occupancy, indicating the Carlsbad market is weak. He also used graphs to indicate City fees and those of
adjacent cities, showing Carlsbad fees higher. He
indicated if the additional fee is imposed, this would
drive the demand factor into surrounding cities.
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Another chart was used to indicate the fees in Zone 5,
and Mr. Greenberg stated he felt, as a major property owner, the City should re-consider the economic
realities of industry's present situation in light of
the proposed fees and alternative financing for Zone 5.
William Hartman, 1132 Melrose Way, Vista, business
address 6200 El Camino Real, representing Beckman
Instruments, stated he had been asked to represent
Beckman Instruments with regard to the impact these fee
may have on the future growth at 6200 El Camino Real. He told of the plans for development on the south and
north sides of the road, and stated they are engaged in
the production of health care products throughout the
world. This is a competitive market and any increase i
the costs means they may lose art to their competition.
3im Shaw, Grubb & Ellis, 2121 Palomar Airport Road,
spoke on the economic impact of additional fees on
industrial and commercial development, stating this
impact would be profound and would create a loss to the
real estate people in lost tenants. He asked Council t
consider that impact before imposing additional fees.
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public hearing was closed at 8:34 p.m.
Council Member Mamaux felt the proposed fee should be
studied with regard to making it City-wide. If fees ar
established in Zone 5, it would only be fair and
reasonable to enter into an agreement with property
owners for a reasonable payback on a phasing of
construction program, for the increased investment they
must make.
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Council Member Larson agreed and added he would not lik
to see a fee set this evening. The Parks & Recreation
Commission should study this and assess the need. Also,
they should determine whether this should be a City-wid
fee. I Council Member Kulchin stated she supported the concept
of a recreational fee, and agreed this should be
returned to the Parks & Recreation Commission. Council
Member Pettine concurred, adding specific costs should
be determined, as he would not want to price the
developers out of the market.
Mayor Lewis concurred, stating this should be returned
to staff to be sent to the Parks & Recreation Commissio for review. I 2 56
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Mike Holzrniller stated the ordinance provided any new
fee would have to go through the public hearing process As a follow-up, if the concept of the fee is approved,
staff would have to amend the Zone 5 plan to say
conceptually the fee is going to be looked at, and the
details would be worked out by the Parks & Recreation
Commission and forwarded to Council.
Council adopted the Negative Declaration issued by Lewis
the Planning Director, and adopted the following Kulchin
Resolution, amended to reflect that the concept of Pettine X
a recreation fee would be reviewed by the Parks & Marnaux
Recreation Commission, with a final determination
by Council:
RESOLUTION NO. 9188, APPROVING A LOCAL FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT ZONE 5.
15. AB 119118 - ZONE 3 BOUNDARY AD3USTMENT FOR CAR
COUNTRY EXPANSION.
Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the staff
report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using a
transparency to show the area to be added to the zone.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 8:58 p.m., and issued the invitation to speak.
Mike Ryan, 6994 El Camino Real, General Partner, owners
of eight acres adjacent to Stagecoach Park, referred to
his letter dated 3uly 16, 1987, addressed to Ray
Patchett. He inquired about the adjustment to this Zone
3 and asked about the procedures for others if they had
similar requests. Mr. Ryan questioned why this request
was not reviewed by the Planning Commission.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed at 9:Ol p.m.
Mike Holzmiller stated the ordinance does not require
zone boundaries be reviewed by the Planning Commission.
Mr. Holzmiller added guidelines would have to be
developed for zone boundary changes, but currently,
requests go to the City Manager's office for staff act ion.
Council adopted the following Resolution: Lewis
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RESOLUTION NO. 9185, APPROVING AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE Pet t ine x:
BOUNDARY OF LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT ZONE 3. Mamaux I
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
16. AB R9119 - APPEAL OF CITY ENGINEER'S DECISION -
MINOR SUBDIVISION #746 - CONSTANTINO MEDINA.
Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer, gave the staff report as
contained in the Agenda Bill, using a transparency to
show a plat of the project.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 9:13 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Kevin McCann, Attorney, 1905 Apple Street, Ste. 5,
referred to the letter submitted to Council regarding
this matter. He stated the applicant had dedicated land
to the City with the vested right to proceed with the
subdivision. He asked the Ci.ty to approve the appeal in
that the City asked for land in conjunction with the
Cynthia Lane Assessment District, with assurances that subdividing could take place.
Linda Swinland, 1319 Knowles Avenue, spoke in support of
the City's denial of the appeal, telling of the
atmosphere and character of the area. This is old
Carlsbad and should not be changed. If smaller parcels of land are allowed, that would change the area.
Iola Oathout, 1453 Buena Vista Way, adresssed Council,
stating she did not want the street put through. They
had been told by the City they could divide their
property into four parcels if they approved the Cynthia
Lane Assessment District. Mrs. Oathout felt it would
be more compatible with the surrounding area if the
parcel were divided into four lots.
Cecil Oathout, 1453 Buena Vista Way, stated he could not
understand why the City put in the laterals on the cul-
de-sac, since the laterals would only be required if the
property were subdivided.
Don Dominquez, 1288 Knowles Avenue, asked whether this
was an absol-ute decision, as he had also been told he
could subdivide his property into two lots.
Frank Lin, 1320 Knowles Avenue, stated he had received
the same promise from the City.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public hearing was closed at 9:27 p.m.
Marty Orenyak stated this was a question of time. He had
told Mr. Dominquez if he would wait until the Zone 1 Plan
was approved, they would make a finding that the lots can
be split into four parcels. The City did not intend to
back away from its word. Zone 1 is waiting to come to
Council at this time. They will have to justify the
numbers in the zone and the balance available in the
quadrant, but staff had no concerns with that.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
City Attorney Vincent Riondo recommended Council deny
the appeal and uphold the decision without prejudice. This would allow the applicant to re-file the map
when the City is in a position to give consideration, without a second set of fees.
Council denied the appeal of City Engineer's Decision Lewis
Minor Subdivision 746 (Constantino Median) without Kulchin
prejudice and upheld the City Engineer's decision. Pettine
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DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
(43) 17. AB %9099 - Supplement fl - RESOLUTION GRANTING APPEAL AND DENYING CUP 87-2 - APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY
CHURCH.
This item was taken up art of order. (See Page 3)
(102) 18. AB !I9120 - STATUS REPORT ON RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD
ALIGNMENT STUDY.
City Engineer Lloyd Hubbs gave an update on the status
of the Rancho Santa Fe Road alignment study, stating
there were two routes approved by the committee. Staff
has not formulated a recommendation at this time, and
will make a report at the September 1 Council Meeting.
Council accepted the report and will schedule the item
for a final report on September 1, 1987.
(37) 19. AB f9121 - REQUEST FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Council Member Larson referred to his memorandum dated
August 4, 1987, regarding the public comment period and
public hearings. He stated when the 1O:OO p.m. curfew
approaches, the citizens should have a chance to give their public testimony on items, when they cannot returr
to the next Council Meeting. He felt no one should be
discouraged from speaking before Council.
The public comment period could be divided into two
sections, with the period at the end of the meeting to
remain as it is, and perhaps two people using ten
minutes at the beginning of the meeting, with their
text presented early enough to be part of the agenda packet.
Council Member Kulchin stated she liked the intent of
Council Member Larson's comments, but the problem with
the text being included in the packet was they need ten
working days. She stated anyone could get on the agenda by writing a letter, and when they write the
letter and get a place on the agenda, Council can
respond to their remarks. Any comment made during the
Public Comment time cannot be discussed by Council at
that time.
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DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
Council Member Pettine suggested closing off
discussions at 9:45 p.m., to allow time for the Public
Comment.
Mayor Lewis stated he agreed there should be a Public
Comment time every session. If a citizen wants to
address the Council, a letter should be written to the
City and the citizen's request will be placed on the
agenda.
Due to the time, Council continued this item.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Mario Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, addressed Counci
asking for the cost of xeroxing a page of information
for a citizen, as the City Clerk's office charges 15
cents per page. He would like to know the cost to the
City.
Dennis Meehan, 3981 Gloria Lane, stated the Public
Comment section of Council was an appropriate forum for
candidates to speak and that should not be discouraged.
He stated he was not aware a citizen could write a
letter and have an item placed on the agenda. He felt
that was an important bit of news that should be
published.
COUNCIL REPORTS:
Mayor Lewis reported that the Carlsbad Bobby Sox are
involved in the Regionals this year and are again
requesting a donation of $500 from the City.
Council directed that the approval of the donation be
placed on a future Agenda.
AD30URNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of August 4, 1987, was
adjourned at 10:03 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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ALETHA L. RAUTENURANZ
City Clerk
I Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk
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