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Home My WebLink About1999-08-02; City Council; Minutes0 MINUTES 0 MEETING OF : CITY COUNCIL (Special Meeting) DATE OF MEETING: August 2,1999 TIME OF MEETING: 6:OO p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Lewis called the meeting to order at 6:OO p.m. ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk as follows: Present: Mayor Lewis, Mayor Pro Tem Hall, Council Members Finnila, Nygaard, and Absent: None Kulchin SHOPPING CENTER POLICY SCENARIOS WORKSHOP: I. WELCOME/INTRODUCTIONS - Mavor Lewis. The Mayor stated that the goal of this Workshop was to discuss the Community’s vision for hture shopping center development, and not to talk about specific projects. 11. INTRODUCTION AND BACKGROUND - Garv Wavne, Assistant Planner. Mr. Wayne stated that purpose of this Special Meeting and the Special Meeting of August 9, 1999 is to clarify the city’s vision regarding both neighborhood and community commercial development that will satisfy the shopping needs of Carlsbad’s existing and future residents. He stated that the vision is important because it becomes articulated in future policies, procedures and laws. Mr. Wayne explained that the current vision is articulated in the Land Use Element of the General Plan and its update in 1994. In the Spring of 1996 the City Council asked staff to investigate two questions: 1. Given the vision and land use objectives that the City has established for itself, does the City have sufficient land designated for existing and future retail shopping? 2. Assuming that we do need to add additional commercial sites, does the City have adequate means to prevent those undesirable effects commonly associated with strip commercial development? In response to these questions the 1996 Neighborhood and Community Commercial Land Use Study (draft) (on file in the City Clerk’s Office) was generated by the Planning Department. III. THE DRAFT 1996 COMMERCIAL STUDY - Dennis Turner, PrinciDal Planner. Mr. Turner described the key assumptions for the study: first, the study focused on the ultimate build-out condition of the City; and second the study focused on neighborhood and commercial sites and did not include such areas as The Village, Carlsbad Ranch, and the Poinsettia Transit area. He also explained that the retail centers in Vista, San Marcos, Oceanside, and Encinitas, that exist in a three mile radius fkom Carlsbad were included in the evaluation since they serve Carlsbad residents. Mr. Turner then discussed the definitions and characteristics of Shopping Centers: 1. A Neighborhood Center usually contains a Supermarket, with a typical lease area of 50,000 square 2. A Community Center can contain a tenant such as a Discount Store, Large Variety Store, or a feet and needs approximately 6,000 to 12,000 citizens to support it. Junior Department Store, a lease area of 150,000 square feet and needs minimum support from a population of 40,000 to 150,000. 0 0 August 2,1999 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP-SHOPPING CENTER POLICY Page 2 3. A Regional Center contains a Full-Line Department Store with a lease area of 400,000 square feet and requires 150,000 to 300,000 in population support. Mr. Turner then displayed maps showing the locations of the City’s Neighborhood and Community Centers with depictions of the areas within a three mile radius; a 1.5 mile radius; and a five minute travel time. He summarized by stating that neighborhood and community services were available in most areas of the City although some areas were served by sites outside of City boundaries. He indicated that the questions still needing resolution were: 1. Should Carlsbad meet its shopping needs through centers in other cities? 2. Should the City pursue commercial centers? IV. CONSULTANT REPORT- Richard A. Parker, Ph.D., and Louis M. Rea, Ph.D., Rea and Parker, Inc. Dr. Rea described the seven commercial scenarios/outcomes and corresponding characteristics that were used in their survey of Carlsbad residents: Scenario 1 : Community commercial development should not occur in Carlsbad. No neighborhood commercial centers are to be built of any significant magnitude within the neighborhoods themselves. Scenario 2: Build community commercial shopping centers on the remaining vacant sites (demand permitting) and create new neighborhood shopping sites within new neighborhood developments in Carlsbad, off the main streets. Scenario 3: The same as Scenario 2, but alter the form of new developments so that all things needed to meet daily needs of residents are located within walking and bicycling distance of one another. Scenario 4: A mixed approach utilizing some vacant commercial sites for neighborhood commercial, as currently developed. In new neighborhood developments, provide the remaining necessary neighborhood commercial centers, still relying upon neighboring cities to meet a significant proportion of community commercial needs. Scenario 5: Build community commercial on existing vacant sites, but no new neighborhood commercial in the new developments of any magnitude. Rely on community commercial and existing neighborhood commercial to fulfill neighborhood commercial to fulfill retail needs. Scenario 6: Utilize certain Planned Industrial property in the airport area for community commercial to serve primarily the daytime worker population. Use existing vacant commercial sites for neighborhood commercial as currently developed. Scenario 7: Community commercial development should not occur in Carlsbad. Residents will continue to rely upon community commercial sites in Oceanside, San Marcos, Vista, and Encinitas. Remaining community commercial sites on El Camino Real, will not be developed. Neighborhood commercial is to be built along planned street extensions, such as Cannon, College, or Poinsettia, instead. Dr. Parker described the survey of City residents to find out which values, and characteristics were preferred. The alternative visions were articulated as the seven Commercial Outcome Scenarios. 605 residents were included in the survey covering all four quadrants of the City. Dr. Parker stated that the survey results make it very clear that any Scenario which involves community commercial development within the City is not acceptable to the City’s residents. The survey also indicated that traffic congestion was a major area concern. Therefore Scenarios 2, 3,4 and 5 lack sufficient support for further consideration. He stated that Outcome Scenarios 1 and 7 have the strongest support. 0 0 August 2,1999 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP-SHOPPING CENTER POLICY Page 3 V. COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF REPORT: Council discussion focused on the following: How long would the data from the survey apply to Carlsbad? Mr. Parker indicated 5 to 10 years. Further elaboration on Scenario #6 was asked for in reference to the small areas of land available for development in the airport area. Mr. Parker stated that this Scenario was tooled because of the lack of retail centers to accommodate the large working population in the airport area. RECESS: Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 7: 17 p.m. and Council reconvened at 7:30 p.m. with all Council Members present. PUBLIC COMMENT: Mayor Lewis issued the invitation to speak at 7:30 p.m. Bob Gates, 6748 Lemon Leaf Drive, spoke in support of Scenario #1. Lydia Krak, 6609 Curlew Terrace, stated that she supports Scenario #1 and is opposed to Scenario #7. Gordon French, 29 13 Lancaster Road, endorsed Scenario #l. Bernice Hill, 2984 Ridgefield, spoke in support of Scenario #l. Richard Reck, 4534 Hartford Place, stated that he supports Scenario #l. W. Alan Kelly, 4912 Via Arequipa, spoke in support of Scenario #6. Jimmy Sutcliffe, 4583 Picadilly Court stated his support for Scenarios #1 or #7. Margie Monroy, 749 B Magnolia Avenue, stated support for parts of Scenario #3. Jan Sobel, CEO of the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, stated that the Chamber had not taken a position on the Scenario choices at this time. Diane Scott, 7243 Spoonbill, President of the Aviara Master Homeowners Association, stated support for Scenario #l. Me1 Baker, 3668 Azure Circle, stated support for Scenario #7. Tom Flanagan, 2988 Ridgefield Avenue, stated his preference for Scenario #l. Lee Altman, South Adams Street, spoke in support of Scenario #6. Seeing no one else wishing to speak, the Mayor closed the public comment session at 752 p.m. Mr. Wayne stated that the Special Meeting on August 9, 1999, will include a re-cap of the seven scenarios and will solicit any additional Public Comment. Council would then discuss and consider making a choice from the scenarios. That choice would then become the Vision, which may require changes to the General Plan. I 1 0 a August 2,1999 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP-SHOPPING CENTER POLICY Page 4 ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the City Council Workshop of August 2, 1999, was adjourned at 758 p.m. Respectfully submitted, LR*y LEE RAUTENKRANZ City Clerk Lorraine M. Wood Deputy City Clerk