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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-06-18; City Council; MinutesMINUTES MEETING OF : CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting) DATE OF MEETING: JUNE 18,2002 TIME OF MEETING: 6:OO p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Lewis called the Meeting to order at 6:OO p.m ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk, as follows: Present: Lewis, Kulchin, Finnila, Nygaard and Hall. Absent: None. LEGISLATIVE INVOCATION: The invocation was offered by Matthew Teague. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Council Member Hall led the Pledge of Allegiance. PROCLAMATIONS: Mayor Lewis presented a proclamation to Ivy Bodin, American Rose Society, in recognition of Carlsbad being named an “American Rose City”. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Mayor Lewis announced that City Council Members have been invited and may be participating in the upcoming events: Wednesday, June 19,2002 11:OO a.m. Council Study Session 1635 Faraday Avenue Carlsbad, California CONSENT CALENDAR: ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin, Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, Items #I through # 5, as follows: m: Lewis, Kulchin, Finnila, Nygaard and Hall, NOES: None. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 2 WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: Council waived the reading of the text of all Ordinances and Resolutions at this Meeting. 1. AB #16.792 -AGREEMENT WITH DUDEK &ASSOCIATES FOR WETLANDS MITIGATION SERVICES. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-175, approving the agreement with Dudek & Associates for professional services for preparation of revegetation construction plans and monitoring for Rancho Santa Fe Road wetlands mitigation, Project No. 3190. 2. AB #16.793 - QUITCLAIM DEED OF EASEMENT - CARLSBAD TRACT 85-24. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-176, approving the quitclaim of a portion of an existing access easement on Lot 102 of Map No. 12815 of Carlsbad Tract CT 85-24, adjacent to Faraday Ave. 3. AB #16.794 - FIRE DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-177, establishing the new classification and salary of Fire Marshal, and amending the Management Salary Structure and Conflict of Interest Code. 4. AB #16.795 -APPROVAL OF STORM DRAIN EASEMENT. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-178, approving a storm drain easement to the City of Encinitas to accommodate placement of a storm drain system underneath a portion of Carlsbad Boulevard, which will benefit both Encinitas and Carlsbad. 5. AB #16,799- STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE DISTRICT NO. 1: INITIATING PROCEEDINGS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-183, initiating proceedings for the annual levy of assessments and ordering the preparation of an Engineer’s Report for a Special Assessment District, and; Adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-184 approving the Engineer’s Report, and; Adopted RESOLUTION NO. 2002-185 setting a public hearing for July 23, 2002. ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION: 6. AB #16.796 - SURVEY AND ERADICATION OF CAULERPA TAXIFOLIA. ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, Council adopted ORDINANCE NO. NS-631, amending Chapter 11.24 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code to implement measures to aid in the survey and eradication of Caulerpa Taxifolia in the Agua Hedionda Lagoon. u: Lewis, Kulchin, Finnila, Nygaard, and Hall. NOES: None. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting PUBLIC COMMENT: None. PUBLIC HEARING: 7. AB #16.797 - LA COSTA GREENS AFFORDABLE SITE - SDP 01-17. Page 3 Citing a potential conflict of interest, Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin left the meeting at 6:lO p.m. Barbara Kennedy, Associate Planner, and Bob Wojcik, Deputy City Engineer, presented the staff report. Ms. Kennedy explained that the issue before Council this evening is the consistency of this project with the City’s policies and development standards. She noted that this project is consistent with the lnclusionay Housing Ordinance. Ms. Kennedy also noted that the land use allowing 180 affordable units has previously been approved in the Master Plan. In response to Council Member Finnila, Ms. Kennedy explained why this site was chosen for affordable housing. She said one criteria of identifying an affordable housing site is the close proximity to public transportation and shopping. Ms. Kennedy said that during the Master Plan process, other sites were investigated for affordable housing, but the northwest corner of the future intersection of Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road was deemed the most appropriate location. In response to Mayor Lewis, Ron Ball, City Attorney, said that in October 2001, Council made the land use determination for this location. Therefore, the land use decision is not before Council this evening. Mr. Ball explained that at this meeting, Council is being asked to adopt the Negative Declaration and approve the Site Development Plan. Mayor Lewis said any public testimony at this meeting should be limited to addressing the Negative Declaration andlor the Site Development Plan. Mayor Lewis opened the duly noticed public hearing at 620 p.m. and asked if anyone wished to speak on this matter in any way. Fred Arbuckle, President of Morrow Development, the master developer for the Villages of La Costa, spoke in support of the project. He said they would provide the land for a new school site across the street from the Dove Library in conjunction with the La Costa Greens Affordable Site. He said the northwest corner of the future intersection of Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road has been the designated site for affordable housing for the past four years. Mr. Arbuckle said that Phase 1 would include the streets and median improvements. Mr. Arbuckle explained that there would be an average of 35 feet of landscaping on the outside of the perimeter wall. He described the site plan and said the site plan meets all of the Master Plan criteria set forth by Council in October 2001. Anne Wilson, Community Housing of North County, 1820 South Escondido Blvd., Escondido stated that Dove Family Housing Management is a partnership between two experienced non-profit affordable housing development organizations. Community Housing of North County is located in Escondido and has developed housing throughout San Diego County for the past 14 years. Mercy Housing California is a June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 4 statewide affordable housing non-profit that has also developed housing over 22 years throughout California. Ms. Wilson described their credentials, on-site activities and the resident screening procedure. She said there are several successful affordable housing complexes in Carlsbad and most people do not realize that those housing complexes are affordable housing. In response to Council Member Finnila, Ms. Wilson said that there would be one full time and one part time managers on site at the La Costa Greens Affordable Site. Alexandra McIntosh, said she was representing Andrew Gerhard, 7008 Estrella De Mar. She said that Mr. Gerhard questions the validity of the density studies. She said the existing residents would rather pay for the median improvements than have affordable housing in their neighborhood. Ms. McIntosh said that Mr. Gerhard does not want to have affordable housing next to his home and feels that the affordable housing should be moved to another location. Mayor Lewis explained that the land use for the site of La Costa Greens has been previously determined. Tonight's decision is whether to approve the Negative Declaration and Site Development Plan. Gloria Busman, 7022 Lantana Terrace, spoke in support of La Costa Greens and said that affordable housing is needed. She said that La Costa Greens is a well-designed project and is close to stores and public transportation. Louis De Rose, 2026 Caleta Court, said he has not reviewed the minutes of the meeting when the EIR was approved for the La Costa Greens Affordable Site. He expressed frustration that at this meeting only the Negative Declaration and Site Development Plan are being considered. Mr. Rose said there are more significant issues than architecture, such as increased traffic and current homes decreasing in value as a result of affordable housing in the neighborhood. Mr. Rose said that La Costa has been a source of tax revenue for the City of Carlsbad and that La Costa Greens Affordable Housing Site will not be a source of tax revenue. Arthur Markovits, 3002 Unicornio Street, said he is not opposed to the concept of affordable housing but said that the northwest corner of the future intersection of Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road is an inappropriate location. He expressed concern that teenagers residing in the affordable housing will loiter at the shopping center. He said that affordable housing next to a resort, such as La Costa, is inappropriate. Audrey McMillian, residing on Estrella De Mar, asked Council to reject the Negative Declaration. She said the La Costa Greens Affordable Housing Site would result in increased noise to their neighborhood. Jack Sowell, 7092 Estrella De Mar, said that the project is too dense for the site. He asked that the three and four bedroom units be eliminated. He expressed concern that the project will not provide enough parking for all of the project's residents. Mr. Sowell expressed concern that this project will create additional noise and said that a 12-foot barrier wall should be installed to mitigate the noise impact to the existing neighborhood. Mr. Sowell also expressed concern that several families will live in each unit. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 5 Alphonse Kenison, 1941-8 Alga Road, said this site is an inappropriate location for an affordable housing project. Armanda Martinez, 7014 Estrella De Mar, submitted petitions (on file in the City Clerk's Office) signed by homeowners opposing the installment of the traftic signal at Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road and requesting in lieu of a signal, an extended median to prevent through traffic and left turns onto Estrella De Mar. She expressed concern that residents were not notified of the La Costa Greens Project and expressed frustration that discussion tonight is limited to the Negative Declaration and Site Development Plan. Ms. Martinez said that affordable homes should be built in Carlsbad and not affordable apartments. She suggested that affordable condominiums be built on this site instead of apartments. Ms. Martinez said that this project is too dense for the parcel of land. She said that the traffic studies are incorrect and she asked that Estrella De Mar be closed to through traffic. Council Member Hall recalled that City staffs original recommendation was to close Estrella De Mar to through traffic. However, during previous hearings, the homeowners on Estrella De Mar responded to Council by stating that they wanted their street left open to through traffic and a street light installed. As a result, Council Member Hall said that Council granted the homeowners' request. He questioned why the homeowners' had changed their mind. Phillip Hack, 2065 Caleta Court, said the La Costa Greens Affordable Site Project is incompatible with the surrounding neighborhood. He said the project would adversely impact the entire area south of Alga Road. Mr. Hack expressed concern for the increased traffic on Estrella De Mar and noted there are no sidewalks on Estrella De Mar. He also expressed concern that current residents' homes will be devalued by the close proximity to the affordable housing project. Mr. Hack said he felt that there has been no effort made to mitigate the impacts of the affordable housing project on the existing neighborhood. Mr. Hack suggested that the project be moved north of El Camino Real. Mayor Lewis explained that each quadrant of the city has affordable housing units. Kristine Thompson, 2304 Altisma Way, #106, Carlsbad, said she lives near the affordable housing project and spoke in support of the project. She said the design is consistent with the neighborhood. Ms. Thompson said that traffic is not heavy in the area. However, there are a lot of speeders and she said that a traffic signal might slow down traffic. Joan Surridge, 7255 San Luis, Carlsbad, spoke in support of this project and said it fills an urgent need for affordable housing. She said it is situated at a good location because there is shopping and public transportation nearby. Kay McConnell, 7261 Estrella De Mar, said traffic is currently very heavy in the area and the proposed affordable housing project will increase traffic. She expressed concern that drivers will take a short cut through Estrella De Mar. Ms. McConnell asked that a traffic signal not be installed and that the median be extended. Ms. McConnell said according to the May 15, 2002 Planning Commission Minutes, the residents want Estrella De Mar closed to through traffic. She submitted petitions from residents June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 6 opposing the traffic signal and requesting a longer median (on file in the City Clerk's Office). Mario Conte, 7044 Estrella De Mar, noted that other affordable housing has been built within new housing developments. He questioned the fact that La Costa Greens Affordable Site would be built in an existing neighborhood. Jan Sobel, 5620 Paseo Del Norte, #128, Carlsbad, CEO, Chamber of Commerce, said that the Chamber of Commerce supports affordable housing. She spoke of the need for affordable housing being located near shopping and public transportation. Ms. Sobel said that the northwest corner of the future intersection of Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road is an appropriate location for the La Costa Greens. Liz Kruidenier, 3005 Cadenzia Street, representing the League of Women Voters, said their organization has long been an advocate of affordable housing. Ms. Kruidenier said that the City of Carlsbad has been doing a good job providing affordable housing and she spoke in support of the La Costa Greens project. Tom Scott, 13038 Creek Park Drive, Poway, shared his positive experiences as a neighbor of affordable housing. He noted that the value of his home continues to increase, even though he is a neighbor to two affordable housing projects. He spoke in support of La Costa Greens and said it is a very nicely designed project. Mr. Scott said that families that need affordable housing often do not drive as many cars as others and traffic in the area is not impacted. Jacqueline McCulley, a member of La Costa Resort and Spa, said that the Resort was just sold and the new owners plan to make major improvements to the property. She said it is inappropriate for an affordable housing project to be located next to a world- class resort and spa. Ms. McCulley said the affordable housing project should be moved north and more expensive homes be built on the site instead. Brad Whaley, 7152 Almaden Lane, discussed the site plan and said that the traffic studies need to be reviewed for accuracy. He asked if the affordable housing project would be completely walled. Mr. Whaley said he supports improvement of the median on Alga. Mr. Whaley said that the method in which the buffer zones are illustrated, it appears that large unlandscaped spaces will occur along the wall. Mr. Whaley said any open spaces within the project would be too small for the residents to use. Mr. Whaley questioned the safety of children as they crossed the bridges in between the buildings of the La Costa Greens and asked if those bridges would be carpeted. Mr. Whaley said in his opinion, the bridges are very unattractive. In response to Council Member Hall, Mr. Whaley said that traffic studies are needed to determine if Estrella De Mar should be closed to through traffic. He said that a traffic signal would not be a benefit to the neighborhood because vehicles exceed the speed limit. Darryl Loring, 7240 Estrella De Mar, said that the La Costa Greens project would increase the amount of traffic on El Camino Real. He said that his home is already impacted by noise and this project will add to the noise. Mr. Loring said this project is too large for the parcel of land on which it will be located. Mr. Loring expressed concern June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page I that he was never notified during the planning stages of this project. Mr. Loring said that affordable housing is not the issue; the issue is that this project is incompatible with the existing neighborhood. Mr. Loring expressed concern for children's safety as they cross El Camino Real to go to school. Council Member Finnila noted that the Master Plan for Villages of La Costa has been in existence for several years. Ray Gilliland, 7014 Estrella De Mar, expressed concern for the additional traffic this project would create. Mr. Gilliland said he never received any notice of this project and expressed concern that the affordable housing project would devalue existing homes in the neighborhood. Mr. Gilliland said it is more appropriate to build affordable housing that could be purchased instead of building affordable rental housing. Joanne Marsolais, 191 5 Estrella De Mar, said she and her husband own a two- bedroom townhome. She said there is currently affordable housing in the area and another affordable housing project is not needed. She expressed concern for the increase of traffic as a result of the La Costa Greens project. In response to Council Member Hall, Ms. Marsolais said she was not sure if Estrella De Mar should be closed to through traffic. However, she noted that many people use Estrella De Mar as a shortcut. Ofie Escobedo, 161 1 James Drive, spoke in support of the La Costa Greens project. She said that affordable housing is needed in all quadrants of the city. Jack Henthorn, 5375 Avenida Encinas, representing Dove Housing, said their goal is to provide 180 affordable units. He said that the EIR was certified in the Master Plan. Mitigation measures were provided for traffic and noise. Mr. Henthorn said that the project is conditioned to address traffic concerns through the EIR. Mr. Henthorn described the open space and the recreational facilities that will be available on-site. He noted that the EIR addressed the fact that the noise level in the vicinity of the proposed project currently exceeds the City's noise standards. Mr. Henthorn said that mitigation measures were provided. Mr. Henthorn said that this development is required to provide a major park site and swim complex to benefit the entire community. Mr. Henthorn also explained that the La Costa Greens project is compatible with the neighborhood. Mr. Henthorn then addressed questions from the previous speakers. Mr. Henthorn said that the sound buffer wall would be located at the top of the slope and would be screened with landscaping such as trees, shrubs and groundcover. He said there would be no carports around the perimeter of the project. Instead, the carports would be located underneath buildings. Mr. Henthorn said it is important to note that this project was carefully planned and is not a low end product. Mr. Henthorn responded to Council Member Finnila and said that the bridges in between the buildings will only be for pedestrians. Carols Rodriguez, Rodriguez and Simon Design Assoc., Inc., 2445 Fifth Avenue, Suite 220, San Diego, said the pedestrian bridges between buildings have been designed to promote the safety of children. Mr. Rodriguez said that the bridges are not intended to June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 8 be a sitting area and would be strictly passageways for pedestrians. Mr. Rodriguez addressed the open spaces within the project. He explained that there would be a hierarchy of outdoor spaces for the residents' enjoyment. In response to Council Member Hall, Mr. Henthorn said that the wall would follow the perimeter of the project. He said the wall's primary function is to abate noise and screen the parking area. In response to Council Member Nygaard, Mr. Henthorn said that the children living in La Costa Greens would attend Aviara Oaks. However, he noted that the developer has offered land to the school district for a new school and negotiations are undetway. Anne Wilson, Community Housing of North County, 1820 South Escondido Blvd., Escondido stated that only occupants named on the lease may reside in each unit. Subleases will not be allowed and visitors are allowed to stay for a maximum of 14 days. Ms. Wilson said these residency issues would be closely monitored. Ms. Wilson said Dove Family Housing limits the number of residents by the number of bedrooms in each unit. In response to Mayor Lewis, Ms. Wilson explained earning requirements for potential residents of La Costa Greens. RECESS Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 8:lO p.m. Council reconvened at 8:15 p.m. with all members present, except Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin. Mayor Lewis asked if anyone else wished to address Council on this matter. Seeing no one else wishing to speak, the Mayor closed the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. In response to Council, Ms. Kennedy explained that the proposed project is similar to existing density in the area and other affordable housing projects within the City. She explained the 15% inclusionary housing requirement. Ms. Kennedy noted that the public hearing notice was published in the North County Times, two scoping meetings were held for public participation, the Planning Commission discussed this project at two separate public meetings and the proposed project has been before Council twice. She explained that each primary property owner was notified of this Council meeting. Ms. Kennedy explained that City Council policy is that the City will not pay for mitigation of existing projects. However, the EIR does mention that the City would help to facilitate the process of noise mitigation with the current residents. Ron Ball, City Attorney, explained the need for a nexus between the impacts of the projects and the mitigation imposed by the regulatory body. He noted that this project would increase noise by 3 decibels of the existing traffic noise. Mr. Ball said there is no nexus between the slight noise increase from the project and the wall as a mitigation tool. Mr. Ball said a sound wall would not be practical, due to the number of driveways on the project. In response to Council, Ms. Kennedy described the landscaping and said that the carports will be underneath the buildings. She said that each unit would have its own private open space and there would be a recreation area for the residents. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 9 In response to Council, Bob Wojcik, Deputy City Engineer, said that the Tentative Parcel Map contains the condition to install the median; the condition is not in the Site Development Plan. In order to change the condition, staff would need to explore the matter further. In response to Council, Ms. Kennedy said that staffs original recommendation was to close the median. Ms. Kennedy also explained the permit process for the proposed project. In response to Council, Debbie Fountain, Director of Housing and Redevelopment said that numerous studies show that property values are not impacted by nearby affordable housing projects. Ms. Fountain noted that property values are impacted by comparable sales. Ms. Fountain said that the City of Carlsbad currently has five affordable housing projects and there have been no negative impacts to the City. She said they are all well designed and professionally managed and maintained. She noted that included in the agreement with the developer is language, which allows the City to require the developer to change the management company, if they are not doing a good job. Ms. Fountain noted that only once was a management company changed for affordable housing and it was because the developer felt they needed stronger management. Ms. Fountain explained that the site for La Costa Greens was chosen because of its close proximity to shopping and public transportation. In response to Council, Ms. Fountain said, typically, each unit would have two persons per bedroom, plus 1. Therefore, a 2-bedroom unit could accommodate 5 occupants. Ron Ball, City Attorney, explained the City's inability to regulate the definition of what constitutes a family. He said that the Supreme Court has said that a family cannot be defined by blood or size. Anne Wilson, Community Housing of North County, 1820 South Escondido Blvd., Escondido stated that Dove Family Housing follows occupancy guidelines in order to avoid a large number of people in each unit. In response to Council, Ms. Fountain addressed crime issues within said that the criminal element comes from those living outside the affordable housing units. Ms. Fountain also answered Council's questions regarding traffic circulation and said there are multiple ingresses and egresses onto the proposed project. Council Member Finnila explained the difference between a master plan and site development plan. In response to Council Member Finnila, Ms. Kennedy described the mitigated measures on the project. Council Member Hall said he is willing to review the issue of a traffic signal and median, per the requests of the neighbors at this meeting. Council Member Hall spoke in support of the La Costa Greens project. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page IO Council Member Nygaard also spoke in support of the La Costa Greens project and installing a solid median. Council Member Finnila noted that costs of homes continue to rise and she said that affordable housing projects do not devalue existing homes. She explained how the City has planned for all types of growth citywide. Council Member Finnila noted that the affordable housing element has been part of the Villages of La Costa Master Plan for many years and has been an issue of controversy. Council Member Finnila described the inclusionary housing ordinance. Mayor Lewis spoke in support of affordable housing and noted that it is shared by all quadrants of the city. He noted that his home continues to increase, even though he lives near three affordable housing projects. ACTION: On a motion by Council Member Finnila that Council adopt RESOLUTION NO. 2002-179 adopting a negative declaration and approving a site development plan to allow the development of a 180-unit affordable apartment project on property generally located at the northwest corner of the future intersection of Alga Road and Estrella De Mar Road in Local Facilities Management Zone 10; and, that staff be directed to review the issue of the traffic light and median. AYES: Lewis, Finnila, Nygaard, and Hall. NOES: None. ABSENT: Kulchin. Ron Ball, City Attorney, said that staff needs to investigate the issue of whether Council is able to change the traffic signal condition in the Tentative Parcel Map. RECESS: Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 9:00 p.m. Council reconvened at 9:04 p.m. with Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin and all Council Members present. AGENDA TAKEN OUT OF ORDER: Council concurred with the Mayor’s request to take the agenda out of order and consider Item No. 10 next. DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORT: IO. AB #16,800 - PRESENTATION OF REQUEST FOR FUNDING A NEW POOL COMPLEX. Lisa Rodman, 3535 Simsbury Court, spoke regarding the need for a pool complex in the City. She requested that funding be placed in the Capital Improvement Program, Ms. Rodman suggested that a measure be placed on the November ballot regarding the need for a pool complex. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 11 Fred Arbuckle, President of Morrow Development, said he is the developer of the property around the future Alga Norte Swim Complex. Mr. Arbuckle said that he anticipates that construction of the project would begin this year. He spoke of the need for a 50-meter swimming pool and the need to consider a combination of facilities at one location. Larry David, 7042 El Fuerte Street, spoke of the need for a swim complex with a 50- meter swimming pool. Council Member Hall noted that during community discussions of the Pine School property, the Mayor suggested that a swimming pool and playing fields be placed upon the Pine School property. However, Council Member Hall said there was little response from the community. Preston Rodman, 3535 Simsbury Court, spoke of the need for a swim complex with a 50-meter swimming pool. Steve Eastwood, 3677 Maria Lane, spoke of the need for a swim complex with a 50- meter swimming pool. He said that the pool needs to be large enough for competition. Mr. Eastwood said he was unaware of the public discussions regarding the Pine School property. Tim Davidson, 2530 Davis Avenue, said that the future Alga Norte Swim Complex should be installed during Phase 1. If that is not possible, Mr. Davidson said that the issue of a swimming pool complex should be placed on the ballot. Jim Barton, 4925 Avilla Avenue, spoke regarding the need for a pool complex in the City. He requested that funding be placed in the Capital Improvement Program Mayor said that Proposition H precludes the City from spending more than $1 million of General Fund monies. Ray Patchett, City Manager, explained that if Council wants to spend more than $1 million from the General Fund, a ballot measure would be required, per Proposition H. If a ballot measure were used, Council would need to identify the type facility upon which the people would be voting (i.e. swimming pool, swimming complex, playing fields, etc.). In response to Council Member Finnila, Mr. Patchett said that a 50-meter swimming pool is included in the Capital Improvement Program in the fifth to sixth year out. Council Member Hall said he would like to have some direction from the community as to whether they would like a swim complex or a 50-meter swimming pool and an understanding of the economics attached to each issue. Mayor Lewis concurred. However, he noted that in the past, people in Carlsbad did not support a swimming pool. Mayor Lewis said that he hoped that more facilities than just a 50-meter pool would be built. June 18,2002 Council Member Nygaard said she would like to look at the City partnering with others to collect funds for a 50-meter swimming pool. Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin said she supported the public/private partnership to build a swim complex. She said that the Pine School property is too small for a swim complex. In response to Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin, Ron Ball, City Attorney, explained the timelines for placing a measure on the ballot. Council Member Finnila expressed concern that if the Alga Norte Park Pool were moved up on the priority list, other goals such as parks and road projects would need to be reprioritized. Mayor Lewis noted that even if the voters approved a swim complex, construction would not begin right away. Ray Patchett, City Manager, suggested that staff be directed to prepare a report and return to Council addressing Council’s concerns and questions expressed at this meeting. In response to Council, Ron Ball, City Attorney, said that Council could place a measure on the ballot asking the people if they wished to spend more than $1 million from the General Fund for a Capital Improvement. Mr. Ball said that Council would still be in charge of the construction timing. Council Member Finnila said she felt that there are many factors to consider such as the Proposition H vote, Council’s priorities, and that the public would like other facilities such as playing fields. Council Member Hall said he agreed with Council Member Finnila. Council Member Hall said he did not want to give a false sense of hope that if the ballot measure were successful, that the pool or.swim complex would be built right away. He said that the pool or swim complex would probably still not be built for several years. Mayor Lewis said he supported placing a measure on the ballot per Mr. Ball’s prior discussion. Council Member Nygaard spoke of the need for Council to determine if the people at large support setting aside $1 million to build a pool. She expressed concern about the future economy. Mr. Patchett reviewed the timeline for placing a measure on the ballot. Mayor Pro Tern Kulchin said that the issue of expanding the perimeters of Proposition H needs to be placed on the ballot. Council Member Hall said he is willing to set aside funds. Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 12 June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 13 ACTION: On a motion by Mayor Lewis, Council directed staff to prepare a report regarding the request for a swimming pool and return to Council, addressing Council’s concerns expressed at this meeting. m: Lewis, Kulchin, Finnila, Nygaard, and Hall. NOES: None. CONSIDERATION FOR CONTINUING MEETING: Mayor Lewis noted that the hour of 1O:OO p.m. had almost arrived. He asked if Council wished to proceed with this meeting or continue the remainder of the items to next week. Ray Patchett, City Manager, spoke of the importance of proceeding with the agenda. However, he suggested that Item No. 9 be continued. Council concurred to proceed. DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORT (continuedh 9. AB #16,791 -CITY COUNCIL POLICY NO. 43 AMENDMENT (EXCESS DWELLING UNIT BANK) ACTION: On a motion by Council Member Kulchin, Council continued this item to June 25,2002. AYES: Lewis, Kulchin, Finnila, Nygaard, and Hall. NOES: None. ADJOURNMENT TO CARLSBAD MUNICPAL WATER DISTRICT MEETING Mayor Lewis adjourned to the Carlsbad Municipal Water District Meeting at 9:49 p.m. with all members present. ADJOURNMENT TO JOINT SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AND HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION President Lewis adjourned to the joint special meeting of the City Council, Municipal Water District and Housing and Redevelopment at 950 p.m. with all members present. RECONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING: Mayor/President/Chair Lewis adjourned the joint special meeting of the City Council, Municipal Water District and Housing and Redevelopment at 1058 p.m. and reconvened the City Council Meeting with all members present. COUNCIL REPORTS AND COMMENTS: None. June 18,2002 Carlsbad City Council Meeting Page 14 CITY MANAGER COMMENTS: None. CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS: None. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the Regular Meeting of June 18, 2002 was adjourned at 10:59 p.m. City Clerk Janice Breitenfeld Deputy City Clerk