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Meeting of:
Time of Meeting: 5:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: April 30, 1986 Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers \\\A\ DESIGN REVIEW BOARD (Adjourned Regular Meeting)
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Rombotis called the Meeting to order at 5:Ol
p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chairman Rombotis, Members Hall, Holmes and
McCoy.
Absent: Member Schlehuber.
Staff Present: Chris Salomone, Community Redevelopment
Manager
Brian Hunter, Assistant Planner Marty Orenyak, Community Development
Director
DEPARTMENTAL:
1. MEDICAL OFFICES IN PR03ECTS APPROVED FOR GENERAL
OFFICE USE.
Chris Salomone stated staff was directed to bring a report
to the Design Review Board and schedule this special
meeting. Mr. Salomone stated he wanted to propose six
remedial steps to deal with this issue. He has asked
Brian Hunter to give the staff report from a planning
standpoint and a history of the problem. A transparency
will be used to show the existing process the applicant
goes through from beginning to end and how that system
will be impacted with the recommended steps. Then the
subject will be open for discussion by the Board.
Brian Hunter, Assistant Planner, stated the parking
requirement for medical offices is one space for every 200
square feet of gross floor area, while general office uses
are required to have one space for every 400 square feet
of gross floor area. The Ordinance documented in the
staff report talks about professional office parking in
the Village Redevelopment Area. To the private sector,
the general use of professional offices could be confused
as being a doctor's office. Staff felt the ordinance
could easily be confused. The revised Parking Ordinance
in front of Council May 6, 1986, has been rewritten to
clarify that and to simplify the matter. Medical and
office use has been delineated and can be understood.
Staff felt it would also be necessary to add a standard
condition to point out that at the discretionary permit
level, a building designated strictly office building has
parking required just for that title, there should not be
medical uses in that building. The problem is, the way
the zoning is at the present time, a doctor can go into
any office area and nothing catches the plan checker's eye.
Another recommendation is to change the business licence
procedure. Staff recommends changing this to include
staff determination whether or not the parking is
adequate.
Mr. Hunter stated the next recommendation would be to notify the Board of Realtors and/or leasing agents that
there are new rules and explain those rules to them.
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DEPARTMENTAL: (continued)
The next recommendation would be to change the counter
procedures.
revise the way the plan check procedure is done for
tenants.
doctor's office, that may consist of adding a sink in each
office. It is difficult at staff level to immediately
react to that as a doctor's office. For example, if the
applicant has sent in someone else, a runner, you cannot
tell what the plumbing revision consists of, so the
Building Department will have the plan check staff do a
follow-up to make certain what the use will be.
will not be issued.
tenant approvals have gone in. Staff believes it would be
wise to take the direction provided by the Design Review
Board, and that is to require those people to make
contributions to a parking district.
The Building Department has been advised to
When someone comes in with an approval for a
Permits
The existing problem is where the
Chairman Rombotis suggested a revision be made in the
Village Design Manual to indicate the requirements for
professional and medical offices. This is not clearly
delineated in the Design Manual. He stated this could be
in the form of a footnote rather than revising the entire
Manual.
Member McCoy stated he has a problem where the original
permit is issued, and before the final completion, someone
adds plumbing. He wondered how this could be stopped.
Chris Salomone stated staff's approach at this point is to
revise the counter procedures and direct the contract plan
checker to follow up on any office improvement and get a
waiver for clarification that they are not a medical
office. They would have to clarify what the office was,
and have the applicant sign off.
work with staff in devising the proper method.for doing
this.
The City Attorney would
Member McCoy stated he felt it must be specified on the
plan that it is not a medical office. Member McCoy called
attention to Item No. IO, and stated it was clear to him,
but he thought if anyone read the Ordinance through, it
also says medical and dental, one for every 200 square
feet. Member McCoy asked what is medical, and how is that
defined? There was a discussion on the different types of
offices that are not truly medical, but have the same type
of patient traffic.
Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, stated there are
several different categories of professional people that
are actually medical, but not truly doctors per se. He
felt this was something that would have to be defined and
determined by the Planning Director. In the Redevelopment
area, the Community Redevelopment Manager would be
authorized to determine the category for the proposed
use.
Member Holmes stated that, by the same token, the same
parking requirements as a medical doctor would be required
by some of these other professionals. The issue is the
parking. The City is trying to find a solution to the
parking problem.
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DEPARTMENTAL: (continued)
Member McCoy stated he felt the titles should be defined.
Member Holmes stated he felt there was no point in
differentiating between the different titles, as they are all doctors and operating on a 15 to 20 minute cycle for
their patients.
Member McCoy stated if it was possible in the new
Ordinance, it would be a good idea to define the titles.
Member Holmes stated he felt it was a two-fold problem.
First, is the existing buildings that were designed for
professional use and there was a change in occupancy.
Second, the medical building permit. He stated he had met
with Marty Arthur, and they are in the process of redoing
the business license form. They would like some input
from this Board.
with the signing off by the Planning, Building,
Enforcement Officer, or anyone else designated. Member
Holmes continued, stating he thought this was a licensing
problem. He gave as an example, a doctor comes in for a
permit and the application is sent to Planning, etc,.
Along the way, they either have a copy of the permit, site
plan, or whatever and it is either issued for a medical
building or professional building. He should be told he
cannot rent to medical offices in a professional building.
In the Redevelopment Area, he should be given the
opportunity to join a parking district.
The tentative changes would have to do
Chairman Rombotis asked how they would treat those that
are in the pipeline, and Chris Salomone stated from here on out this would be the attitude of staff to follow the
recommendations made tonight.
to go back, and review, and find instances where it has
happened in the past. There has been no history of
complaints, but in the Redevelopment Area there is a
potential in the future for that to happen.
taking the approach that this remedial action will prevent
this in the futuer.
It would be very difficult
Staff is now
Member McCoy said he did not feel the business license
procedure would do a thing to correct this.
they have the license, or if they already have a license,
they only move and it would already be too late.
By the time
Member McCoy stated that could be prevented if they were
checked at the plancheck stage.
Chairman Rombotis stated he felt the City needs to get out
to the major property owners in the area and tell them the
problem and inform the Board of Realtors. Members would
go to breakfast meetings and give presentations and really
get the word out to property owners and people who do the
renting, and let them know what the intent is and what the
new rules are with regard to the parking for medical
offices. He felt it should be possible to eliminate hard
feelings such as exists when people go as far as signing a
lease. Domino's Pizza did this recently, and then found
that they were not wanted in that area. Chairman Rombotis
further stated that he felt the property owners should be
aware of the goals of the Redevelopment Area.
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DEPARTMENTAL: (continued)
Chris Salomone said he was willing to do a mailer, if the
Board thought that was necessary. He stated if these
procedures were acceptable to the Design Review Board, he
would return to the Board with a memorandum to the effect
that those actions had taken place.
He further stated Domino's Pizza checked the zoning, and
they would have been in compliance with the zoning with
their proposal. They had no way of know what the goals
for that certain area happened to be.
Member McCoy stated the building at 3efferson and Grand is
what triggered this investigation.
taken out any permits for extra plumbing. Chris Salomone
stated he had checked with the applicant today, and the
Building Department does not have a record. He asked the
applicant to produce those records, but this has not been
done at the present time.
He asked if they had
Member McCoy stated it gets back to basically whether it
is a medical office or something else.
Chairman Rombotis stated applicants submit a plan, or a
plan check, and it would have to be done prior to the
final. As far as the building at 3efferson and Grand, the
staff does not know the present status of that situation.
Charles Rowe, 3138 Roosevelt, contractor on the job,
stated the tenant improvements were totally drawn out
except for submittal, and they have not be submitted as
yet. He stated they were unaware there was a parking
ordinance for medical on that site, and it was never their
intention to try to sneak anything through. He stated
there was an optometrist and a local GP on the first
floor. He added he was willing to answer any questions.
Chris Salomone said if the Design Review Board directed
him, he would begin these procedures at once and come back
with evidence that they had been acted upon. If, in
working with the Building and Planning Department a
better way was devised for this procedure, that would be
done. He stated he would like a week to implement these
changes and come back with a report for discussion on any
way to close any loopholes that might exist.
Member Holmes commented, if the Board was going to wait a
couple of weeks, he felt at the same time this was
submitted, the new license forms could be part of that
package. The Board could go over the entire package at
one time. In the meantime, in the Redevelopment zone,
they should have an option of paying into a parking
district and getting on with the project.
Chairman Rombotis stated he liked the procedures as
recommended and believed they were fair for the City and
the developers.
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DEPARTMENTAL: (continued)
The Assistant City Attorney commented that in
Recommendation No. 5, which is the parking district option
for existing buildings, he did not believe staff was
suggesting the City find all existing buildings with
medical use and get them to pay when there is a change of
use, In the Redevelopment Area, it does require a
Redevelopment and Occupancy Permit, and if there is a need
to increase parking, you either deny the Occupancy Permit or deny the Redevelopment Permit
into a parking district, or if there was not adequate
parking available, the applicant could find adequate
parking close to the building and the permit would be
allowed. The Redevelopment Manager would decide
Recommendation No. 5, parking district option, on a case-
by-case basis. The determination would have to be made on
a basis of some sort of a judgment whether all medical
uses generate the same types of parking requirements. The
term "medical" conjures a certain conception, and that may
not include the whole spectrum of health services as
such.
The person could pay
Member McCoy stated he would like to add a condition on
the gefferson and Grand building, and asked whether a
public hearing would have to be held.
Attorney stated one of the problems was that project had a
Redevelopment Permit and had vested rights. They have
extended a substantial sum of money in compliance with
that permit, and he doubted whether the new actions could
be retroactive.
adequate parking, as a whole, depending on the complete
roster of different types of offices that finally rent in
the building.
The Assistant City
That building in question may have
Member McCoy stated the parking was very tight when that
permit was issued and was based on a one space for every
400 square feet of office space. The Assistant City
Attorney stated that had already been changed to one space
for every 300 square feet in the Redev5lopment Area. He
further stated if the current tenants are over the limit
on parking permitted by the Redevelopment Permit, it would
be a use change, and perhaps they could be made to bring
their parking up to standards.
Chairman Rombotis stated the five actions with the added
provision to have the Village Design Manual changed, and
the clarification for No. 5 would probably solve the
problem. He did feel there should be a clarification
brought back on Item No. 5, the parking district option
for existing buildings.
Member McCoy stated he felt something needed to be done as
far as the building in question.
building should be left hanging without a decision being
made.
He did not think that
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DEPARTMENTAL: (continued)
Member Holmes stated the building in question is actually
an existing building, or at least, almost an existing
building.
the added parking needed for medical occupancy.
the only alternative at this time would be to ask them to
sign a parking district agreement.
stated he did not feel this violation had been done
intentionally.
It is unfortunate that someone was not aware of
He felt
Chairman Rombotis
Design Review Board approved the following proposed
actions:
1. Revise the parking ordinance.
2.
3. Revise business license procedure.
4.
5.
6. Change counter procedures.
7. Revise Village Design Manual.
Add a standard condition to discretionary permits.
Notify Board of Realtors and other interested parties
(leasing agents).
A parking district option for existing buildings.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Adjourned Regular Meeting of April
30, 1986, was adjourned at 5:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
CHRIS SALOMONE
Community Redevelopment Manager
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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