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Meeting of: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 5:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: October 5, 1987
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Robertson called the Meeting to order at 5:09 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present - Chairman Robertson, Commissioners Blackford,
Christiansen, Howard-genes, Swenson and Ex-
Officio Member McBane.
Absent - None.
Staff Present: Patty Cratty, Senior Management Analyst
Lynn Fitzgerald, Management Analyst
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held September 14, 1987, were
approved as presented.
INFORMATIONAL:
1. CHANGE IN SUPPORT STAFF
Patty Cratty announced Lynn Fitzgerald will be assigned to
this Commission starting with today's meeting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. H-12 HOSP GROVE
Lynn Fitzgerald gave the staff report, using a
transparency to show the site, including a brief history
of the grove.
Ex-Officio Member McBane stated the Historic Site would
include all the land the City owns in Hosp Grove.
Chairman Robertson opened the public hearing at 5:25 p.m.,
and issued the invitation to speak.
to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed.
Since no one wished
Chairman Robertson stated a better definition of Hosp
Grove was needed, and the lists of land owned by the City
and that to be purchased by the City should be combined.
Historic Preservation Commission directed staff to re-word
the title of the resolution to: "City-owned portions of
Hosp Grovef1 and include a more complete list of the
portions of lots, with descriptions.
This item was continued to the November Meeting.
Robert son
Blackf ord
Christiansen
Howard-3ones
Swenson
Robertson
Blackford
Christiansen
Howard-3ones
Swenson
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3. H-11 AGUA HEDIONDA ADOBE
Lynn Fitzgerald gave the staff report, which was to
report on the Agua Hedionda Adobe meeting the criteria for
designation as a Historic Point of Interest.
Chairman Robertson opened the public hearing at 5:23 p.m.,
and issued the invitation to speak.
speak on this item, the public hearing was closed.
Since no one wished to
Commissioner Howard-3ones suggested video documentation of
the site.
Historic Preservation Commission adopted the following
Resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. 09, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AGUA
HEDIONDA ADOBE AS A HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST.
4. H-10 STAGE STOP
Chairman Robertson gave the initial report on this item,
stating the recommendation was made at the last Commission
meeting to designate the Kelly barn as a Historic Point of
Interest. There was another small structure with a plaque
describing the site as the stage stop.
Ex-Officio Member McBane commented the barn was a point of
interest, but not the ground the barn stands on.
Chairman Robertson stated he interviewed Irwin Kelly, who
referred to the stage stop.
Chairman Robertson opened the public hearing at 6:40 p.m.,
and issued the invitation to speak.
A representative for Doug Avis stated when the plans are
firm, they will be willing to move the building.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public
hearing was closed at 5:50 p.m.
Historic Preservation Commission adopted the following
Resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. IO, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CARLSBAD
STAGE COACH STOP AS A HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST.
NEW BUSINESS:
5. NOVEMBER MEETING AT KELLY BARN
The Commission discussed the possibility of meeting at the Kelly barn in November, and decided to hold the first
portion of the November 9 meeting at 2:30 p.m., at Council
Chambers, and adjourn to the Kelly property to view the
barn, take photographs and video tape an interview with
Irwin Kelly.
Robertson
Blackf ord
Christiansen
Howard-3ones
Swenson
Robertson
Blackf ord
Christiansen
Howard-Jones
Swenson
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6. PALEONTOLOGICAL AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL GUIDELINES
Lynn Fitzgerald presented a recommendation from Brian
Hunter that the Historic Preservation Commission send
an agenda bill to City Council requesting staff time be
scheduled for preparation of an ordinancefguidelines on
archeological and paleontological resources in the City.
Historic Preservation approved this request and
recommended that Brian Hunter coordinate a presentation,
with the Museum of Man Specialist in both fields, for
the City Council.
INFORMATIONAL:
7. UPDATE OF COUNCIL/CHAIRPERSON MEETING
Commissioner Christiansen reported on the meeting between
Council Member Larson and the Chairpersons of the
appointed Boards and Commissions. She stated the
various problems of the Boards and Commissions were
discussed, particularly with regard to more direction as
to the function of each Commission or Board.
8. SANTA FE DEPOT
Patty Cratty gave the report on this item, displaying
memorabilia discovered underneath the depot.
rehabilitation of the depot is almost complete.
She stated the
9. CARRILLO RANCH
Patty Cratty stated the RFP's can go out, and it is hoped
there can be an adobe party.
IO. TOOTSIE K RANCH SIGN
Lynn Fitzgerald reported on the status of the Tootie K Ranch
sign removal project, and the suggestion was made to have
the sign be a part of the Village Faire Project.
11. HISTORIC RESOURCE DESIGNATION
Kip McBane inquired whether there are any paleontological
and archaeological sites on the Hunts' property.
Commissioners agreed Brian Hunter should make a report
before the Planning Commission on those sites. A memorandum
was to be sent to Mr. Hunter from this Commission requesting
such a report, and a review of the map at Museum of Man.
The items to be reported on at the next meeting are St.
Michael's Church and Calavera Lake.
The
Commissioner Howard-3ones commented everything could be
a Point of Interest until it moves up to become a
Landmark.
The Commission requested an overhead showing the list of
sites to be studied by the Historic Preservation
Commission.
The top three sites on the list are to be reported on at the
next meeting.
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12. COMMISSION LIABILITY
Patty Cratty had consulted the Risk Manager and stated the
City would defend the Commissioners in case anyone sued the
Commission.
13. NOVEMBER AGENDA
The Historic Preservation Commission will meet at the
Council Chambers at 2:30 p.m., November 9, 1987, and adjourn
to Irwin Kelly's property.
AD30URNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of October 5, 1987, was
adjourned at 7:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitked,
Management AMlyst
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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