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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-02-08; Historic Preservation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 5:OO p.m. Date of Meeting: February 8, 1988 Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Robertson called the Meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Robertson, Commissioners Blackford, Christiansen and Swenson. Commissioner Howard- 3ones arrived at 5:lO p.m. McBane arrived at 5:11 p.m. Ex-Officio Member Absent - None. Staff Member Present: Lynn Fitzgerald, Management Analyst APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The Minutes of the December 14, 1987, Meeting were approved as presented. The Minutes of the 3anuary 11, 1988, Meeting were approved as presented. PUBLIC HEARING: 1. CALAVERA LAKE AND DAM Lynn Fitzgerald reported the Costa Real Water District took this issue to their meeting last week and determined with the changes made, this item should go to their Board Meeting on February 17, 1988, and requested this Commission continue the item. She added the Commissioners were invited to attend that Board Meeting. Historic Preservation Commission continued the Calavera Lake and Dam item to determine whether the site meets the criteria for designation as a Historic Landmark, to the March Meeting. INFORMATIONAL: CHAIRMAN REPORT: Chairman Robertson stated the newspaper reporters had said they had difficulty hearing the Commissioners, so a microphone had been placed on the table. He asked the Commissioners to use the microphone when speaking, and added that all Commissioners were now facing the audience instead of sitting with their backs to them. Chairman Robertson reminded the Commissioners that no topic should be discussed unless it appears on the Agenda. Robert son Blackf ord Christiansen Swenson Robert son Blackf ord Christiansen Swenson Robert son Blackf ord Christiansen Howard-3ones Swenson - Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y MINUTES February 8, 1988 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Page 2 COMMISSIONERS Chairman Robertson stated he attended the dedication of Calavera Hills Park on 3anuary 30, 1988, and he gave a brochure to the Commissioners showing the Master Plan for the Park. Lynn Fitzgerald suggested memberships in the California Community for Promotion of History and California Committee for the Preservation of History, and the consensus of the Commission was to seek such memberships or to be on their mailing lists. Commissioner Blackford suggested Ms. Fitzgerald check with the City Attorney to see whether this would be permissible. Chairman Robertson displayed a copy of "Coloring Carlsbad", a coloring book, priced at $2.00, which presents some of the history of Carlsbad to small children. to see they had these printed again.. Commissioner Christiansen stated she was happy 2. VILLAGE FAIRE Steve Densham, 3965 Monroe, owner and developer of the Village Faire project, explained the project to the Commission using wall charts to show the proposed proJect. He indicated the project will be pedestrian-oriented and serve as a gateway to the Village. He went into details with regard to the parking and the improvements to be made in Rotary Park. The gazebo will be placed in the park and the chickens are to be placed somewhere in that area. Mr. Densham agreed the Tootie K sign could also be placed there. In answer to Commission query regarding designation of the Twin Inns building as a historic landmark, Mr. Densham stated he would rather not take any action until after the project is completed. There will not be any changes made to the original building, but he would not want any problems to arise during the construction of the new project, the Village Faire. Mr. Densham stated the man who had the molds for the chickens lives in Vista, in case the Commission was interested in any historic value in those molds. Mr. Densham invited the Commissioners to take a tour of the Twin Inns building at any time they desired by letting him know in advance. 3. SENIOR CENTER DESIGN Chairman Robertson stated this item will be before Council February 23, 1988, and they are working on the drawings at this time. The entrance off of Jefferson will have the existing flagpole and the facade has been duplicated, to keep the existing visual effect. Pine trees on Pine Street will be saved and one large interior-site tree, and the new building will be closer to Pine Street than the existing buildings. Chris Salomone, Community Redevelopment Director, had mentioned the tall windows and doors and the wood trim, and felt that material should be saved to be sold. However, the City must own the material before it could be offered for sale. r- MINUTES y.\ $ February 8, 1988 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Page 3 - COMMISSIONERS The Commissioners felt the flat portion of the building on the front did need some relief, to avoid resembling a motel. OLD BUSINESS: 4. ARCHEOLOGICAL AND PALEONTOLOGICAL GUIDELINES Reference was made to Mayor Lewis' letter with regard to the quidelines and his statement that staff time could not be spared to work on such guidelines at this time. Ms. Fitzgerald stated she would consult with Chris Salomone on the possibility of using Redevelopment funds as a loan to be repaid. The consensus of the Commission was to pursue trying to find outside funds to be used for payment of formulation of guidelines, with an RFP to be prepared. 5. CARRILLO RANCH UPDATE Chairman Robertson referred to the letter from Keith Beverly and Lynn Fitzgerald distributed copies of the February 5, 1988, letter. The sub-committee will not meet again until further direction from Council or the Parks & Recreation Commission. The arboretum item will be presented to the Parks & Recreation Commission at their February 22, 1988, meeting. Connie Beardsley will present the report to that Commission. Chairman Robertson stated the grant received for the Ranch was for stabilization of the buildings. there is no access to the property at this time. However, Lynn Fitzgerald stated this Commission was expressing concern for the historic aspect of the site and did not want it to change. The Arts Commission and the Historic Commission must maintain involvement in whatever procedure takes place with regard to the Carrillo Ranch property. Commissioner Blackford felt the arboretum item stands on its own, and the two Commissions need to stand on their own in terms of the many ideas and suggested uses for that ground. Parks & Recreation should realize that is where this Commission is coming from. Howard-3ones and Swenson will attend the Parks & Recreation Meeting. Commissioners The suggestion was made that additional funds can be gathered from many sources, including grants, and the Parks & Recreation Commission should be made aware of this. All input should be taken in the interim period. Kip McBane stated this Commission should be more demanding for input, as it has a valid interest in the historic preservation. This Commission has a mandated position, which it is going to protect. There was a question about how the Quimby Act would affect the use of that land. The consensus of the Commission was the Commissions should work together to ach project. three eve a better MINUTES February 8, 1988 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Page 4 COMMISSIONERS 6. PLANNER REQUEST Chairman Robertson stated Brian Hunter has been transferred, and if this Commission has a special need for a planner, they should let the Planning Department know and they will have someone at that meeting. consensus of the Commission was that it was important to have someone in the Planning Department who was knowledgeable about archeological and paleontological articles. The 7. PLANNING QUESTIONS FROM 3ANUARY Chairman Robertson referred to the letter in the packet and Ms. Fitzgerald read from the memorandum from the Redevelopment Office. 8. CALAVERA SCHOOL SITE SCULPTURE Chairman Robertson stated the Parks & Recreation Commission had voted unanimously to have an active play art object. 9. RED APPLE INN Commissioner Howard-Jones talked with Colonel Kline, and the Academy will take this item up at the end of March. Academy is anxious to make a dining room museum. The 10. GAUS HOUSE Lynn Fitzgerald will call Bob Herring to get a response to her letter of February 3, 1988. NEW BUSINESS: 11. AMMONITE FOSSIL - MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY Lynn Fitzgerald reported the display table-top cases will be built to house the two ammonites the Natural History Museum is giving to the City. There will be a tour February 26 for any Commissioners who are interested. 12. HISTORIC RESOURCE DESIGNATION - PUBLIC INFORMATION SHEET Commissioner Blackford stated the last paragraph needed to be changed. It was decided to have it read: also be given by City Council for a person to tear down, demolish or structurally alter one of these resources, but approval is not required for anything that will not change the color, style or general characteristics of a structure or site. Approval must The suggestion weas made that a lead-in was needed to give the people the community spirit needed to make such a designation. This should be a friendly thing and not something to put fear in the minds of the owners. would have something to pass on to their children--something they could point to with pride. They 13. LIBRARY DISPLAY AREA A copy of Commissioner Howard-3ones' letter to Hunt Properties was included in the packet, asking for participation in sponsoring a display area in the new Library. v .I t I MINUTES F)S\ 9 February 8, 1988 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Page 5 x - COMMISSIONERS 14. HISTORIC INVENTORY LIST Chairman Robertson stated the Calavera Lake and Dam item would be continued. Ramsay House - 1330 Chuparosa Way - Commissioner Howard-3one will investigate this item. Bungalow - 3309 Roosevelt Street - Chairman Robertson will get information on this item. He stated Patty Cratty had some material on this item. games Kelly Home - Sunny Creek Road - Chairman Robertson will get information on this item. Commission discussion determined they could walk the Kelly property some Saturday and have the interview here at City Hall. 15. MARCH CALENDAR Update seminar in Escondido Tootie K Sign Rough draft of Public Information Sheet Chicken Molds Goals (being modified at this time) Gaus House - Schedule for Designation How to Set up a Workshop Meeting to establi h Commission Goals -- to make this Commission more effective AD30URNMENT: By proper motion, the Meeting of February 8, 1988, was adjourned at 8:Ol p.m. Respectfully submitted, Management Analyst Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk