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Meeting of: HfSTORIC PRESERVATfON COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 4:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: August 14, 1989
Place of Meetlng: Councll Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chalrperson Blackford called the Meet
4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
ng to order at
Present: Commissioners Blackford, Christiansen,
Ga I 1 egos and Howard-Jones.
Absent: Cornmissloner Robertson and Ex-Officio
Member Mary Marcus.
Staff Present: Chris Salomone, Housing & Redeve
Patty Cratty, Senior Management
Cllnt Philllps, Senlor Managemen
Director
Analyst
Analyst
PUBLIC COMMENT:
opment
There were no requests to address the CommSssion.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meetlng held July 10, 1989, were
approved as mended.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. ARCHAEOLOGICAL GUfDELlNES UPDATE.
Dale Cheever, Bill Manley and Dr. Susan Hector,
Consultants from Recon, were present to glve an UPLJ,~ on
the guidel ines.
Copies of the Preliminary Draft of the Cultural Resource
Gufdellnes were dlstributed to the Commissioners. They
were asked to submit any recommendations or changes by
Thursday, August 17, 1989.
Ms. Cheever gave a summary of the guidel lnes and the
method used to compile them. The questions of how much
Information the City wants, how it wll 1 be kept and how it
wf 1 I be used wi 1 I need to be answered, and also who wl 1 1
have access to that Information.
Curation was discussed and Mr. Manley stated that this
Is a state-wide problem of who pays for It, how
accessible it is, etc. He further commented that
houses were Included In the archaeological sltes, as
there is the possibllity ff the orlginal house is
intact, that there is an archaeologlcal site there.
Ms. Cheever stated that input was needed on the data
recovery approval, with steps to be completed in the
process for the developers and ways to check thelr work.
She commented that she felt copies of the reports should
be avatlable In the Ilbraries. She added that there
will be a list of sltes compiled and the general
cond ltion of the sites.
Blackford
Christiansen
Ga I Iegos
Howard -Jones
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Ms. Cheever stated that the Clty needs to be more
Involved in the entire process.
2. ARROYO LA COSTA MASTER PLAN AND EIR.
Patty Cratty introduced thls item and stated that Dee
Landers of the P fanning Department was here to d iscuss
the Commission's concerns. Ms. Landers introduced Fay Round, who also would answer questions, but that she
would also take any questions back to the environmental
consultants for answers.
Fay Round stated that constraint level studies were
done on this property and that report should be on
f i le. He said that this property was not good for
deep f I I I, and they had recommended a data recovery
program, and when the scope of work was received, this
could be a condition to be sent to this Commission.
Ms. Landers said the EIR is almost complete and the
master plan and tentative maps are being reviewed.
She said the mitigation program is not detailed enough
and staff wi I I make comments to the consu Itants, and it
would be helpful to have a letter from the Commission
anticipating the adoption of the guidelines.
Landers added that she felt It would be to the City's
benef It to have this project reviewed in the I ight of
those gufdelines. She will send copies of the
cond it ions to th i s Comm i ss ion.
Ms.
3. EVANS POINT EIR AND TENTATIVE MAP.
Associate Planner Donald Neu gave an update on this
item, stating the Plannlng Department was waiting for
changes to the proposal, and until the complete
appl fcatlon Is received, the EIR report wit I not be
revised.
In response to Commission query, Mr. Neu stated the City is looking at leaving the open space area as such,
as it is not usable as a park. Commissloner Gallegos
added that he wou Id I ike the area surveyed again.
The Kelly barn was discussed by the Commissioners, and
Mr. Neu said that the barn needs a lot of repair and
if left as it is, access would be restricted. The
comment was made that most of the farm equipment was
destroyed as it was fat ling apart.
Chalrman Blackford said that the recommendation
should be made to have the developer reinforce and
maintain the barn. Mr. Neu said the developer would
want to know how long he would have to maintain the
barn. The suggestion was made to have this a responsibility of the homeowners association as part of
the development.
RECESS:
Chairman Blackford declared a Recess at 6:05 p.m., and the Commission re-convened at 6:14 p.m., with four
Members present.
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Patty Cratty reported the consultant Is preparing a
detailed plan, bullding by bullding, of the Ranch. The
ad hoc committee agenda was stil I pending Council
rev i ew.
CARR I LLO RANCH/GRANTS .
At this time ftem #11 was taken out of order.
11. CULTURAL RESOURCES.
Patty Cratty referred to Mr. Norman's proposal with
regard to the theatre and said that the feasibi I ity
study is due in the end of this month. Mr. Norman was
present to answer questions regard ing the theatre.
5. PEDIMENT FROM CARLSBAD SCHOOL OFFICES AT 801 PfNE
AVENUE.
Patty Cratty reported that Municipal Projects had said if
thls Commission wanted to go to Council and ask for
$3,000, for the pediment, but that there was no money in
the present budget. Ms. Cratty said the pediment was
originally in three pieces, and the construction people
said it was Impossible to keep it intact during the
removal process.
Commissioner Howard-Jones volunteered to contact the
School District people to let them help decide what
their feel ings were about lnstal I ing the ped iment at the
1 ocat ion.
The Historic Preservation Commission agreed to contact
the School District to have them help decide what should
be done with the pieces of the ped iment at the new
Senior Center/School Distrlct Offices.
6. COMMISSION WORKSHOP UPDATE.
Patty Cratty reported on the workshop held July 20,
1989, and stated that staff had written the goals.
The Commission added goals to preserve one prehistoric
site annually and curatlon of Carlsbad's EIR reports.
Ms. Cratty said she had requested space for artlfacts
at the new library, as the Commlssion had requested.
She also suggested there be a goals workshop each year.
7. HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE UPDATE.
Staff and Commissioner Gallegos attended this conference
and Commissioner Gallegos gave a report.
"Mil Is Act" were distributed to the Commissioners.
Copies of the
8. ARCHAEOLOGICAL TOUR UPDATE.
Clint Phillips reported on the tour.
Commissioner Gallegos suggested that the Commission take
part in a unit of an excavation and use the artifacts
for public display.
the Batiquitos Lagoon, on August 22, and this meeting wi I I be adjourned to 8:OO a.m. on that date, in the
event a quorum of Commissioners is present.
He will arrange this at a site on
B lackford
Christiansen
Gal legos
Howard -Jones
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9. EIR MITIGATION REPORTS.
Patty Cratty referred to the memorandum from Charles
Grfmm, Assistant Planning Dlrector, contained in the
packet, with regard to the EIR mitigation reports.
Chairman Blackford asked for a memorandum to Mr. Grimm
asking for a 1 i I st of those reports that they do have
in their possession.
10. SUB-COMMITTEE REPORTS.
Patty Cratty asked the Commissioners to think about
collecting artifacts for the Twin Inns for the next
Calavera Hills display.
Ms. Cratty distributed copies of the Historic
Preservation brochures as printed by Commissioner
Robertson.
There was no report on the newsletter.
Ms. Cratty reported there was no confirmation at this time for the joint Councl I/Commlssion meeting.
11. CULTURAL RESOURCES.
Part of thls Item was d iscussed on Page 3 of the
Minutes.
Ms. Cratty distrlbuted copies of the Consent for
Historic Landmark Designation as approved by the City
Attorney
Ms. Cratty reported that all the informatiion has sbeen
obtained on the Gage House and Hart Real Estate Off Ice,
and the owners need to be contacted to sign the consent
forms. Commissioner Howard-Jones w I1 contact the Hart
Real Estate Office and Commissioner Christiansen will
contact the Gage House Owners.
Reference was made to the letter from Lowel I Ponte
regard ing the adobe home at 522 Tamarack Avenue and his
request to be added to the Cultural Resources list.
By consensus, the Historic preservation Commission
agreed to add the Warrington house at 522 Tamarack
Avenue to the A I ist as number #15.
NEW BUSINESS:
12. PLAQUES FOR PRE-HISTORIC SITES.
Commissloner Gal legos stated that this was an lmportant
goal and there needs to be a listing made on pre-
historic sites. He vo\unteered to help complle a list
of known sites to determine which sites should get
plaques. Mr. Gal legos suggested these be tted into the
map and this Commission notified through the EIR. Ms.
Cratty said this Commission Is on the list to receive
all EIR's, whether or not there are cultural resources.
The Commfsslon requested a tetter be sent to the
P 1 ann i ng D {rector to cons ider hav 1 ng someone on staff
with expertise in archaeology and paleontology.
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13. DISPOSITION OF FARM EQUIPMENT.
Patty Cratty gave the report on this farm equipment and
the consensus of the Commisslon was to investigate
loaning this to Vlsta.
14. OCEANSIDE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
Commissioner Howard-Jones reported on the August
meet I ng of the Oceans {de H istor ic Preservat Ion
Commlsslon.
INFORMATIONAL:
15. SUMMARY REPORTS FROM VARIOUS COMMISSIONS,
COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
Information item on fy.
16. SEPTEMBER CALENDAR.
Guldel lnes (how to include paleontology)
Memo to Northwest Quadrant Committee to receive copy of
list of sensitive lands Arroyo La Costa
Cultural Resources
Carrlllo Ranch
Ped lment
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of August 14, 1989, was
adjourned at 8:15 p.m., to August 22, 1989, to examlne
a digging site, in the event a quorum of the Commisslon
Is present.
Respectfully submitted,
PATRICIA CRATTY
Senior Management Analyst
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk