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MINUTES
Meeting of: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 5:OO p.m.
Date of Meetlng: November 13, 1989
Place of Meetlng: C'ity Counctl Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chalrperson Blackford called the Meetlng to order at
5:07 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: CommissJoners Blackford, Chrlstiansen, Howard-
Jones, Robertson and Ex-Officlo Member Marcus.
Commissioner Gallegos arrlved at 5:15 p.m.
Absent:
Staff Present: C
PUBLIC COMMENT:
None.
int Ph Illps, Senior Management Analyst
There were no requests to address the Commlsslon.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the October Meet'ing were recorded and
have not been transcrlbed at thfs time.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. ARCHAEOLOGICAL GUIDELINES.
Clint Phlllips reported that there was a change in the
date on the staff report for the ftrst readlng of the
ordlnance at CouncFI. This ordinance wit 1 be lntroduced
November 21, 1989, and wfll allow the adoption of a
cultural resource guqdelfnes manual. The Agenda Bill was
sent to the CPty Manager, and wi I 1 be revlewed by the
CFty Attorney. Staff wl 1 I be advised of any changes.
Commqssloner Howard-Jones requested a copy of the Agenda BI 1 I to al low ComrnfssFon Members to contact Councf 1
Members for questfons.
Mr. PhFllips commented that the State request was to
mafntaFn the original guidelines as prepared and not make
any deletions.
2. CARR I LLO RANCH/GRANTS .
Cltnt Phillips read from his report contatned in the
packet, stating that Council recelved an Agenda Bill on
behalf of this Commisslon recommendfng the establishment
of a lyCarrTIlo Ranch Stabillzatlon Commtttee". This
Commlttee was established and In addrtion, Joan Klndte
was appofnted as Curator and Ex-OfflcFo Member of the
Comml ttee.
Mr. Phrlllps sard there are two archaeological sites on
the Ranch, and Mr. Donaldson's office is developlng a
report on those sites. ThTs will be monftored by the
State offfce.
Mr. Phfllips further reported that staff fs working on
the Natlonal Regtstry application for the Ranch.
Commissioner Howard-Jones Tnqulred about the hearing
that would be held on that appllcation, and Mr.
Phfl 1 Ips wf I1 check Into this and let the Commisslon
know.
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OLD BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Phl'llips continued, statlng that Mr. Donaldson's
office had selected two sub-contractors to do some of
the work, so progress Is being made. The two grants of
$90,000 and $400,000 have been rolled together, and the
first $90,000 has not been spent at this the.
Committee w?ll be dealing with costs.
The
Commtssfoner Howard-Jones requested staff to
InvestPgate havtng someone from the Planning Department
work w'lth thts Commtttee. Mr. Phillips w!ll dlscuss
thJs with Chris Salomone.
Chafrman Blackford referred to the copy of the letter
contalned in the packet from Joan Kindle and sald they
are proceeding wfth National Registry for the Ranch.
At this point, Commissioner Gallegos fnqutred about the
Archaeological Guidelines, and Mr. PhVIllps stated that
the Clty Manager felt the guidelines were in the form
they should be at thls time. There wlll be an
opportunlty for revtslons In the future. The State
recommended that they be adopted as they are, as thfs
wi 1 I be amend Ing the sub-section of the ord inance. Any future changes can be by an amendment to the resolutfon
and would be far easier than mend Ing an ord inance.
Commlssloner Gallegos would like to know the procedure
to be followtng for amendlng them and Mr. Philllps wtll
get that BnformatFon for him.
3. PEDIMENT FROM CARLSBAD SCHOOL OFFICES AT 801 PINE
AVENUE.
Chairman Blackford dlstrlbuted draw'lngs of the proposed
ped'lment, whlch is suggested to be placed In the Tnside
of the buildfng. Thls pediment wlll be put on a
back'lng board and left ?n the broken form and covered
wtth acrylic. It wtll be approxhately twelve and a
half feet In length, and w? 11 not be supported by the
wal 1. It will be attached to the wall laterally, to
support It from falling. Commissioner Howard-Jones
suggeted tfltlng it In order to read the plaque better
and allow for a sketch of the schoolhouse, and statlng
that it was a pediment from the 1926 schoolhouse.
4. COMMISSION REQUEST FOR STORAGE SPACE IN NEW LIBRAR'
BU I LD I NG.
Clfnt Phillips reported that staff had sent a letter to
the Library regarding thls storage space, but no answer
has been rece i ved .
Chairman Blackford suggested a different approach be
taken, and asked that the CommFsston Members each
compile a list of what should be stored fn the Library.
He felt If a llst was complled, glvlng speclfics, that
perhaps a posltive answer would be glven. Thls final
I lst, compl led from a1 I the Commlssfoners' tndlv?dual
1 Ists, would state that they wFshed to store the
following, but not llmited to:, glvlng some
flex?bilfty.
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OLD BUSINESS: (Contfnued)
The Commisslon discussed the Carlsbad Room that wfll be
lncluded Fn the new Llbrary, and expressed the thought
that perhaps thls would be the place for some of the
material they would Ilke to have stored there.
Commfssloner Robertson suggested that thls Commisslon be
wll ling to cooperate w'tth the Llbrary In curatlng
materials, and he felt thls should be tncluded in the
next budget request. In thFs way, the llbrary would be
more recept 1 ve toward accept 1 ng these h I stor lc
materia 1 s.
All Commissioners were reminded to bring a list of
Items and/or materlals they want stored In the new
Llbrary, to the next Commission meeting.
5. NORTHWEST QUADRANT PARK CONCERNS COMMITTEE.
Clint Phillips reported that this Commission wanted a
list of the sltes under conslderation by the Northwest
Quadrant park Concerns Commlttee. He distrlbuted copies
of the Memorandum dated November 6, 1989, from Kelth
Beverly of Parks and Recreation, and felt It was self-
explanatory.
6. SUB-COMMITTEE REPORTS.
Calavera H'llls Park Dlsplay Case
CommissPoners Robertson and Howard-Jones wtll work on
thls and it wlll be changed to the Twfn-Inns dtsplay
sometlme thfs month.
Rrochure/News 1 etter
Comm'tsstoner Robertson reported that the brochure ts
prlnted, but that he needed help wlth the newsletter.
He said there are a lot of blank areas, and he intends
to mall every Commlssloner a copy of the newsletter this
week, and they wlll I be asked to wrfte a short btography
on themselves and also fnclude any other articles and/or
photographs they feel would be sultable for the
newsletter. There will also be space for staff input.
Mr. Robertson asked for the Commlssfoners to return thls
Informatlon to Mr. Phll llps In order to get thls printed
before the December meetfng.
Jo i nt Cou nc 1 1 /Comm F ss 1 on Works hop
Commissioner Robertson explalined that he has written the
scrPpt for this presentatlon and gave a copy of It to
Cllnt Phillips for coples to be made and sent to the
Comrnissloners.
Mr. Phflllps sald Mr. Salomone had suggested thls
Commisslon plck a date for the Workshop sometime ?n
January, and a backup date. The Comrniss?on selected
January 9, 1990, as thelr flrst choice, with January 23
as a backup date.
CommissPoner Robertson would be able to give a I!ve
presentation for the st Ides.
January 9 would be the only tlme that
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OLD BUSINESS: (Continued)
SUB-COMMITTEE REPORTS (Continued)
Carrillo Ranch Archaeological Sites
Clint Phllllps announced that two Commlssfoners were to
be selected for the sub-commlttee. Commisstoners
Robertson and Gal legos volunteered to serve on thls sub-
comm i ttee.
7.. CULTURAL RESOURCES.
The Commission dfscussed the Ramsey House, and the fact
that Mr. Beverly had stated the Ramsey House dfd not
recelve a hlgh prlorFty Ifsting by the commfttee and was
not consldered for park acquls4tEon and development.
CommFssToner Christiansen stated that there Fs a buyer
Interested in the Ramsey House, and would malntatn the
house, although they would like to move ?t
approximately 30 feet in order to build the other
houses there. Commlssioner Robertson stated he would
like to see the house remain where ?t is.
Chairman Blackford stated that the Commission could no.
do anything until it sees a specific plan for the
property.
contains approximatly 1.46 acres.
The statement was made that this property
Dtscusslon by the Commiss?on determFned that coples of
the brochure should be sent to the Board of Realtors to
explain more fully the signiftcance of destgnations by
the H'Pstoric Preservation CommTssion. It was also
decided to have 500 more brochures prtnted and to
include a telephone number for staff at C!ty Hall, for
them to be able to answer questions by residents.
Commissioner Howard-Jones Is workfng on
the Hart Bul Idlng.
Clfnt Phll lips saPd that staff had comp on 3264 Hfqhland and now need a Commiss
research for
eted the research
oner to approach
the Owner ?or consent for landmark designatfon.
Commlssloner Chrlstiansen volunteered to do thls.
Cornmisstoner Gal legos asked staff to f f nd out about the
list of all archaeological sites In Carlsbad and the
map that Recon had promised In the orfginal work
package.
Commtssloner Howard-Jones read an article about
incentives in the Clty of Escond?do for people to apply
for landmark designations. The dlsincentJves were also
given to dpscourage people from destroylng landmarks
or demolition of sites.
these for the Commlssloners.
Staff will make coples of
Mr. Phi I1 ips announced that Alt Karlsbad and the Car lsbad
Santa Fe Depot are being reviewed for the Natlonal Regtstry, and notif icatton wl I I be glven on the
p rog r ess .
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CULTURAL RESOURCES. (Continued)
Clint Phillips announced there would be an item under
New BusFness on the December agenda - Cultural Resources - Village Area.
hlr. PhTlllps announced there would be 11 Locator Maps
Installed Fn the Vlllage Area. One side of the map
would be a descriptton of a hFstoric site In the C?ty.
He asked the Commlss loners to make a list of the 11
most sfgnfffcant historic sites.
INFORMATIONAL:
8. SUMMARY REPORTS FROM VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.
COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
There were no comments on the Summary Reports.
9. DECEMBER CALENDAR.
Newsletter - Commtssioner Robertson asked for the
Commlssloners to return the copfes by December 1.
the December 11 meetlng, the Commfssion can discuss the
malting llst for the newsletter. Clint Phflllps 'is to
find out whether there Is a llst available.
At
City Manager's Newsletter - to dlscuss ways to expedtte
the maFl!ng of thFs to the CommFssloners.
Guidelines - Commissfoner Gaflegos requested crtterfa
for those dolng the work and how to amend the
gutdel fnes.
Ltbrary space lists.
Ped Pment.
Cl int Phi I I ips safd that ftems for the next agenda
shoufd be Fn two days earlfer, to allow for the malling
of the packets. Staff would need to have al I Items by
December 4, for the December 11 regular meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the MeetTng of November 13, 1989, was
adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
CLINT PHlLLlPS
Senior Management Analyst
Harriett Babbitt
MiJnutes Clerk