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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-03-08; Historic Preservation Commission; MinutesMinutes of: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 5:OO P.M. Date of Meeting: Place of Meeting: March 8, 1993 CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER: Vice-chairman Dennis Gallegos called the Regular Meeting to order at 508 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present : Vice-chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, McCann and ex-off icio Savary Absent: Chairperson Howard-Jones Staff Present: Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst Eric Munoz, Associate Planner Bob Wojcik, Principal Civil Engineer Martin Orenyak, Community Development Director COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA: Allen Kindle, Carlsbad, representing the Friends of Carrillo Ranch, addressed the Commission and stated that he had come to the meeting under the assumption that one of the agenda items would be a discussion regarding funding for historic sites using ISTEA grant funds. Since he did not see it on the agenda, he requested the Commission to call a vote to add it to the agenda for discussion. As a final note, Mr. Kindle requested a correction to the minutes of February 8, 1993 on page 3, paragraph 5, Rancho Carrillo Master Plan, line 3, to clarify that the statement regarding parking on the school site was made by him and not by Brian Hunter. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, requested that the minutes be corrected to reflect Mr. Kindle's comment regarding parking at Rancho Carrillo. The revised sentence will read, "Allen Kindle, representing the Friends of Carrillo Ranch, stated that parking on the school site...". ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Aharoni, and duly seconded, to approve the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of February 8,1993, as corrected. Vice-chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, and McCann VOTE: 4-0 AYES: NOES: None ABSTAIN: None AGENDA REVISION: ACTION: VOTE: AYES: NOES: A BSTAl N : Motion was made by Vice-chairman Gallegos, and duly seconded, to add an agenda item to discuss the possibility of ISTEA funding for historic preservation at Carrillo Ranch. Vice-chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, and McCann None None 4-0 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION March 8, 1993 PAGE 2 Allen Kindle, Carlsbad, representing the Friends of Carrillo Ranch, addressed the Commission and stated that he understands that $200 million of ISTEA funds will be awarded over the next six years. The funds are administered by Cal Trans and Carrillo Ranch should qualify because of the proposed Citywide trail segment which runs alongside the Ranch. The first award will be approximately $38 million, of which San Diego County is due to receive $4 million. The second funding is $50 million and the cutoff date for project submittal is August 1, 1993. Although he is aware that there will be fierce competition for the funds in San Diego County, he would like to see some Carrillo Ranch projects submitted for consideration on April 1st. Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, reported that Pat Cratty is currently working to determine if there are any projects which might be applicable to ISTEA funding. The deadline to submit projects for the first funding is April 1, 1993, which means that a project must be all ready to go. ACTION: Motion was made by Commissioner McCann, and duly seconded, to support an application for ISTEA funding of any Carrillo Ranch project which may be available. Vice-Chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, and McCann VOTE: 4-0 AYES: NOES: None ABSTAIN: None OLD BUSINESS: 1. Environmental ImDact ReDorts Eric Munoz, Associate Planner, gave an update on the status of the EIR's being prepared that could impact historic resources. He stated that the draft EIR for Shelley Carlsbad is now available for public review. He presented a copy of the draft EIR to the Commission for their review and comment. Ex-officio Member Commissioner Savary advised the Commission that copies of the General Plan Update are also available for public review and that staff will be making a presentation to the City Council at their meeting tomorrow night. She urged Commissioners to attend the Council meeting, if at all possible, to learn more about the General Plan Update which will affect all citizens of Carlsbad. Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, will bring copies of the update document for each Commissioner to the next Historic Preservation meeting. 2. Cultural Resources Inventory Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, reported that staff had received a letter from Patricia Dresselhaus requesting removal of the historic designation on her property located at 2359 Pi0 Pic0 Drive. Vice-chairman Gallegos led a discussion about the necessity of having structures rated 3 or 4 tagged for review by the Historic Preservation Commission. The general consensus was that the current policy should be refined to preserve only those structures which are unique and of historical significance. If a property owner requests his property be exempt from the Commission's review, and it is not a unique property with historical significance, his request should be granted. Also discussed were the types of permits that could possibly be issued without a review and recommendation by the Commission. Staff was requested to draft a list of improvements which might be considered to be minor in nature and present them at the next meeting. A subcommittee consisting Of Commissioners Aharoni and Chereskin will work with staff on this draft. The old Kelly house was discussed. Cynthia Haas reported that the Deputy City Attorney had spoken to the Kelly's regarding the historical significance of their home. It may not be possible to exempt the Kelly house because it was identified by CEQA as a local point of interest. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION March 8, 1993 PAGE 3 Commissioner McCann reported that he had been to see Mr. and Mrs. Dresselhaus' home and that significant changes had been made to the original structure. After reviewing the blueprints, he feels the house is a very non-descriptive, eclectic design, with no historical significance. He would be in favor of removing the tag for future review by the Commission. ACTION: Motion was made by Commissioner McCann, and duly seconded, to leave the property located at 2359 Pi0 Pic0 Drive on the Cultural Resources Inventory but advise Planning staff that no additional review needs to be made by the Historic Preservation Commission, in the event a request is submitted for remodeling or demolition. Vice-chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, and McCann VOTE: 4-0 AYES: NOES: None ABSTAIN: None 5. Allen Leo Carrillo Ranch Kindle, representing the Friends of Carrillo Ranch, addressed the Commission and stated that he has heard the Carrillo Ranch-Master Plan will be on the Planning Commission's agenda on April 8, 1993. He believes that the Planning Commission and the City Council would like to know what the Historic Preservation Commission thinks about the Carrillo Ranch Master Plan. Assuming that the bridge and weir complex will be saved, the remaining two concerns of the Friends of Carrillo Ranch are: * Security for the 10.5 acre historic structure zone now on the National Register. The Friends tried to get the Parks & Recreation Commission to discuss this issue at their recent meeting but they declined. Absence of an access off Carrillo Way and the alternate access which has been proposed. If the Historic Preservation Commission has a position on the access issue, Mr. Kindle urged them to go on record with it so that staff can pass that information on to the Planning Commission and the City Council. Vice-chairman Gallegos led a discussion regarding the Carrillo Ranch issues. Commissioner Aharoni reiterated for the record that the Historic Preservation Commission took a position on several issues in response to the EIR, as follows: (a) (b) (c) Retain the current bridge and the weir complex; Access to the Ranch needs to be from Carrillo Way; and Some type of permanent fencing, such as a block or adobe wall, is needed to protect the historic structures and it should be installed prior to construction. ACTION: VOTE: AYES: NOES: ABSTAIN: Motion was made by Vice-chairman Gallegos, and duly seconded, to go on record that the Historic Preservation Commission is opposed to both drainage alternatives that have been presented for the Carrillo Ranch Master Plan. However, while neither alternative is ideal, the Commission believes that directing drainage to the north, avoiding the weir, is the better of the two alternatives. Vice-chairman Gallegos, Commissioners Aharoni, Chereskin, and McCann None None 4-0 3. Santa Fe Demt Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, reported'that Pat Cratty is still looking into the land issue which was identified by NCTD because they are concerned about being able to add an additional rail track at some future date. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION March 8, 1993 PAGE 4 4. SOH0 WorkshoD Chairman Marge Howard-Jones attended the recent workshop and gleaned many ideas from other cities represented at the meeting. The ideas were compiled and submitted to Commissioners in their agenda packets. This agenda item will be repeated in April so that she may review the ideas during that meeting. 6. Redevelooment Master Plan Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, provided copies of the preliminary Master Plan for general reading. Phases I and II look at the Village vision and the development potential in the redevelopment area. The historic element is not addressed until Phase Ill. Commissioner Aharoni suggested that the Commission compile a list of their concerns about the Plan, for submittal to Debbie Fountain of the Housing & Redevelopment Department. NEW BUSINESS: 7. Paul Normandin, representing the Normandin family who owns the Carlsbad Theatre on State Street, addressed the Commission and requested that the Commission advise him, in writing, what is needed in order to demolish the theatre. He also requested the names of those persons having final authority over the decision. He stated that recent decisions by the City have "killed" the theatre operation. Mr. Normandin left the meeting without waiting for the Commission's discussion. Carlsbad Theatre - Demolition of 2822 State Street Martin Orenyak, Community Development Director, gave some background on Mr. Normandin's comments and stated that SB 547 was passed several years ago which requires that all unreinforced masonry buildings must provide a plan for seismic reinforcement. The applicable property owners in Carlsbad were given one year to hire an engineer and identify what their retrofit would be. Mr. Normandin declined to participate. In addition to being an unreinforced masonry building, staff believes the theatre shares common walls with the adjacent property owners, thus posing a problem for demolition. Mr. Orenyak stated that if Mr. Normandin wishes to demolish the theatre structure, reinforcement of the common walls and compliance with whatever mitigation the Commission feels is necessary, would be required. After discussion, the Commissioners determined that they would like to tour the theatre to determine mitigation requirements. Prior to the tour, staff will provide each Commissioner with a copy of the Wayne Donaldson Theatre Feasibility Study so they will have sufficient information to evaluate the structure. Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, will arrange for the tour and, in order to comply with the Brown Act, will post a public notice of the tour date on the Council Chambers bulletin board at least 72 hours in advance. 8. Certified Local Government (CLG) Grants The possibility of requesting CLG funds for seismic testing in the redevelopment area was discussed. Since the submittal deadline for this year is April 30th, it was decided to place this topic on the September 1993 agenda for a possible submittal in 1994. Vice-chairman Gallegos would like staff to explore the possibility of submitting an application for training funds for Commissioners. Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, indicated that matching funds are required. However, due to the current City policy on travel, matching funds may not be available. Vice-chairman Gallegos requested staff to investigate the City's policy and, if possible, prepare the application. ,- HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION March 8, 1993 PAGE 5 INFORMATIONAL: 9. Historic Societv Reauest - Maaee House Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, reported that the Historical Society has received additional space in the Magee House to accommodate the researcher who formerly worked out of the Santa Fe Depot. The oak table which was at the Santa Fe Depot was moved to the Granary. The vacated space in the Depot will now be used by various groups for storage, since acoustics make it inadequate for a conference room. 12. ADril Aaenda Cynthia Haas, Senior Management Analyst, reviewed items for the April agenda. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the Regular meeting of March 8, 1993 was adjourned at 7:37 p.m. to a special meeting, if necessary, to tour the Carlsbad Theatre. The date of the special meeting will be posted for public notice on the Council Chambers bulletin board at least 72 hours in advance. Respectfully submitted, , CYNTHIA HAAS Senior Management Analyst 4% BET BUC NER Minds Clerk