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MEETING OF: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: January 13,1997
TIME OF MEETING: 5:30 P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Bizieff called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Bizieff, Jones, Valenti, Schwei, and Muth.
Also Present Were: Geoff Armour
John Daley
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of the meeting held September 9, 1996, were unanimously approved as
presented.
DISCUSSION WITH JOHN DALEY. OCEANSIDE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
COMMISSION:
Chairman Bizieff welcomed Mr. Daley and asked him to share information with the
Commission. Mr. Daley explained that he is a lifetime resident of Oceanside and is
actively involved in the Oceanside Historical Society and the Historic Preservation
Commission. He described the activities of the Oceanside Historic Preservation
Commission, which include providing plaques for historic buildings and applying for
grants to pay for these and other items. When a grant is awarded, the city must provide
matching funds. Mr. Daley noted that they hold quarterly meetings and work closely
with the Historical Society. Commissioner Valenti asked where they obtain their
plaques and the cost. Mr. Daley replied that they obtain them from an out-of-state
company which seemed to have the best price, which is about $106 for an 8 X 11
plaque. He also noted that each plaque has only the place name, date of construction,
and a reference number.
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Mr. Daley stressed that his Commission works through the Historical Society rather
than through the City, since citizens seem to react better to that approach. They don't
want what appears to be the City telling them what to do with their property.
Chairman Bizieff thanked Mr. Daley for coming and sharing his knowledge.
There followed general discussion regarding Mr. Daley's information and it was agreed
that the Carlsbad Historic Preservation Commission would prefer to order plaques
locally and include more information on the plaque than does Oceanside.
Commissioner Schwei said she would be happy to make some phone calls and obtain
information about prices, etc.
Chairman Bizieff then asked new Commissioner Dot Muth to fill the members in on her
background. Commissioner Muth gave a general description of her experience and
then asked questions about where the Commission's money comes from. Chairman
Bizieff told her the City gives the Commission a budget of $3000 each fiscal year and
the money must be spent during that time or it is lost.
REVISED HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE:
It was the general consensus that the statement that all historical designations are
voluntary by property owners should be stated strongly. Commissioner Jones
suggested the wording "this shall be voluntary by the property owner" be added at the
beginning of Section 22.02.010. Mr. Armour stated that the amended ordinance will be
handled by the City Attorney's office before it goes to Council, but he added that an
ordinance is not actually required at all. Commissioner Muth asked if she could go over
the ordinance to simplify it. This was agreed to and the matter was tabled to the next
meeting.
PLAQUE FOR HOSP GROVE PARK:
The wording of the plaque was approved by the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Chairman Bizieff said the next step is to talk to Mark Steyaert to see if there are any
funds left from the Hosp Grove Park budget to help pay for the plaque. Chairman
Bizieff said he will take on the task of designing the plaque, while Commissioner Schwei
obtains prices and follows up on information about a possible stone on which to mount
the plaque.
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INFORMATION ON ST. MICHAEL'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH:
Since ex officio Bailey Noble was not present, it was decided to table this item to the
next meeting.
1996-97 COMMISSION BUDGET AND SUGGESTED EXPENDITURES FOR
INFORMATIONAL RESOURCES:
Mr. Armour displayed books, newsletters, and magazines that he bought for the
Commission members' information. They will be kept in his office at the library and will
be available any time anyone wants to come in and look at them.
Mr. Armour added that there is $2800 left in the budget that can be used for more
books, plaques, workshops, or anything that is needed.
ANNOUNCEMENTS/COMMITTEE REPORTS:
Chairman Bizieff said the Carrillo Ranch Master Plan Committee has not scheduled
another meeting. They did have a meeting in November or December, which he did not
attend. He did receive a report that the exhumation of the horse is scheduled for
January 15. Mr. Armour said if they find the bones of the horse they will find another
place to bury them.
Chairman Jones said the Barrio Plan is still in committee. There is supposed to be a
meeting of the Oversight Committee either Thursday or Friday of this week. Both
parties will come together and report back to the Council.
Commissioner Valenti said he did not attend the last meeting of the Historical Society
and deferred to Mr. Armour for the report. Mr. Armour said there is a new board and he
is no longer the president. He reported that the city has done some work
on the Magee House, such as repairing the roof. There still needs to be work done on
the deck, railings and window frames. The Society has had a carpenter build a map
file, an "open" sign, and different display cases.
The Society has been offered a gift of a pot-bellied stove which was in the original
Santa Fe Depot. All members said they would like to have it back in Carlsbad and Mr.
Armour said it is now with the current owners in Santa Cruz and he will check on the
cost of shipping it.
The city has possession of the one remaining chicken from the old Twin Inns and it will
be restored and displayed around town.
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Mr. Armour then asked if everyone was satisfied with their committee
assignments. They said they were, so they will be left as is.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
None.
ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA:
A joint meeting with the Board of the Historical Society will be arranged. The Historical
Society meets the second Thursday of the month at 4:00 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the meeting of January 13, 1997 was adjourned at 7:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Pamela A. Batho
Secretary