HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-03-02; Library Board of Trustees; MinutesMEETING OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
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PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION, TASK FORCE MEETING,
WITH LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES
March 2, 1981
6:30 P.M.
Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER was made by Chairman Dahlquist at 6:36 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Parks *& Recreation Commission:
Present - Chairman Dahlquist, Commissioners McFadden,
Donovan, Murk, Boone, and Tarango.
Library Board of Trustees:
Present - Herbert Falkenstein, Margaret Brownley, Seena
Trigas, and David Dearie-.
INTRCTMJCTIONS
Chair.araa Dahlquist turned the meeting over to David Bradstreet,
who introduced the Commission, his Staff members, Mayor
Packard!1.,. Mary Casler, the City Manager, members from the
Planniinog Department, and the Historical Society.- Georgina
Cole, ttiie Library Director-, introduced the Library Board.
PROJECT' STATUS REVIEW
DavM Bradstreet pointed out wall exhibits, depicting the
existing General Plan of the City to show the area to be .
revised, existing-.park sites within the City, districts as
far as park-in-lieu, and a drawing, of the proposed Macario
Canyon Park by Rick Engineering. Mr. Bradstreet then turned
the sieeting over to Russ Iwanaga, the Consultant.
Mr. Jwanaga introduced the consultant team. He then-
explained that Phase I begins with review and research, and
•will allow his team to familiarize themselves with the
project of designing the park, and of preparing the
documentation of the element. He also encouraged any input
on the project, stating that it was the purpose of the
meeting, and that his team would bring everyone up to date
on what they have accomplished to present.
Mr. Iwaraaga introduced Ernie-Siedel. Mr. Siedel explained
that they are only reporting on the -items that they have had
a chance- to review to date, and gave a brief explanation of
what the agenda would cover.
Element . -
Mr. Siedel introduced Debbie Denne', who gave a presentation
on the parks and recreation element. She explained that the
current element will update the City's goals and objectives
for the General Plan, to meet_the needs of the current and
projected populations. She pointed out that the City's
combined total -of leased and City-owned developed park land
is 57.7 acres, and the City has title to 815.5 acres of land
for potential park sites. She further explained that of the
developed parks, there are approximately 1.6 acres per
thousand persons for the City, which is approximately 37 square
miles, excluding the 7 square miles which is county property. .
Ms. Denne1 continued that the recommended ratio for the
National Recreation of .Parks Association for developed neigh-
borhood parks is 2.5 acres por thousand people, with parks at
this level being a minimum of 5 acres. Further, 52 percent of
Carlsbad's existing parks are less than 2 acres in size, 34
percent are 3 to 5 acres, and 14 percent are 5 to 11 acres
in size.
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Ms. Denne' explained that th'e following are areas of concern:
1. The acreage for use as developed park land per person is
less than the national, standards, and more developed park
acreage is needed. This dpes not necessarily mean development
of additional new parks, but possibly expansion of those
existing parks. 2. The existing facilities are sub-standard
in size for their hierarchy of classification, in that any-
thing less than 5 acres is considered a mini-park. And,
3. The lack of diversity for recreational opportunity.
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In conclusion, Ms. Denne' used wall exhibits to depict the
four sub-areas in the.City, and briefly- explained the
development of same, and summarized a preliminary review of
opportunities a,nd constraints. .Ms. Denne' then opened the
matter up for discussion.
Frank Aleshire, the City Manager, suggested that a meeting
be held v.;i.tb the Coastal Commission staff, to ascertain what
their constraints are. Mr. Aleshire also suggested that an
in-depth look be iaade in terms of cost, and how it would tie
in with the overall program, and to ascertain how practical
things like equestrian trails would be.
Discussion was then held on the parks and recreation element, •
including the standards for developed park land.
In response to Commission inquiry on what would be done with
the existing parks, David Bradstreet explained that Staff is
working on this at the present time; they, are proposing on.the
2 to 4 acre park sites that are undevelopable, to combine or
trade off for isore usable" park'sites ^ '- .
The water problem was also addressed. Seena Trigas expressed
concern over projected limited funding, the options,-and the
priorities of same. . " .
Mr. Siedel then introduced Harriet Posner, from Economic
Research Associates; who presented a report on the economic
aspect of the project.. She pointed out suggestions for
recommended funding, and cutting down maintenance costs.
David Bradstreet addressed the Leo Carrillo property, and
introduced Mr. Tony Bellin from the Historical Society, who
gave some background and a brief report on same.
Macario Park
Mr. Siedel introduced Mike Lopez, who explained the first
phase of Macario Park. With the aid of a flow chart, Mr.
.Lopez explained that Phase I consisted of review of community
attitudes and demands,, review of planning and development
actions, summary of community goals, assessment of existing
policies, summary of existing planning implications, identi-
fication of opportunities and constraints, and evaluation of
existing regulatory measures. From this, they will investigate
the City's needs and desires, and proceed with the project
formulation.
Mr. Lopez added that, as of date, they have not compiled all
the information, and encouraged any input. Phase II will
consist of an analysis of information from Phase I.' - .
Discussion war, then held on the different stages of Phase I,
as depicted on the flow chart.
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Mr. Lopez also explained how the consideration of human and
environmental factors would assist them in finding the most
suitable site for the facility. Seena Trigas indicated that
the strongest factor in the location should be the
unification of north and south Carlsbad. Mr. Herbert :
Falkenstein explained that the park is ideally located for
the unification of north and south Carlsbad, and would be a
central focus for long range development of the City. He
feels the facilities should include recreational, leisure,
cultural, and performing arts.
Mary Casler indicated she does not feel. Macario Canyon Park is
the ideal location for a library, as there will be no
residential around it, and it will be some time before we can
develop it. Mrs. easier also-pointed out that she does not
feel the City -would get the use'out of the library if it were
located in Macario Park, as it does from the present library.
Laurie Boone suggested the City may want to consider looking
into private development within the park. She pointed out
that they had already received a request from the Y.M.C.A.
RECESS
Chairman Dahlquist called a recess at 8:53 P.M., and the
meeting was reconvened at 9:06 P.M.; Mr... Murk . left -at 9:00 P.M.
REVIEW OF CITIZEH'S SURVEY
Mr. Siedel introduced Ken Mullins from Danieliari and Associates
who explained the purpose of the survey, and pointed, out that
at this time it was in rough draft only, and the final
product would be reduced to approximately one page, front and
back. He added that the usual response from a survey is
approximately 20 -to 25 per cent, however, they are--hoping to
do better. Mr. Mullins briefly discussed the contents of the
survey.
Laurie Boone suggested that a task force get together to go
door to door with the survey, with the questions being asked
and the survey completed at that time, as this would yield
the best return.
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Mr. Iwanaga suggested that service clubs be used for
distributing and collecting the surveys. Mayor Packard
indicated that he feels the beaches should be included in ;the
survey, as they are a very significant recreational facility.
Margaret Brownley expressed concern with the survey as it is
titled, in that the inclusion of the library in the parks
and recreation survey, as a-library is not simply a
recreational facility. Mrs. Brownley added that without some
background information on- the people answering the survey,
she would almost rather see library not mentioned.
Mr. Siedel explained that when they arc considering recreation
and parks, they are defining recreation as both active and
passive activities. He further explained that in the text of
the element, they possibly need to state a very clear
definition, to show how broad the recreation experience is.
Mrs. Brownley pointed out that the library is an information
center. •
Lynn Chase added that the library is also a recreational
experience.
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Mrs. Chase continued that one of her concerns in going over
the survey, is that the terminology of park facilities is
use<3 so frequently, it seems to channel one's thinking into
a p*ark, rather than perhaps community services. She suggested
that this might be broadened, to bring to mind other types of. .
sarvices that the people might like. She also suggested that
in reference to the question concerning the willingness to
pay fees, that perhaps the survey could be more specific,
I.e., if a person would be willing to pay a certain amount for
a certain kind of a program, they would see more value.
It was suggested that, on question no. 21, gymnasium and
-community meeting room be added to the list. Also, that an
additional question lie added, as to the willingness to
walunteer in the parks and "recreation programs. It was also
requested that the age of the respondent be added to the survey
.Jeanne McFadden further suggested-that plays, concerts, and
lectures be added slso.
The Commission then recognized Jane Skotnicki, who suggested
that the Park include a facility for teenagers to go, and
da'nce. She requested that this be included in the survey.
ADJOURNMENT • ' ' • i
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 9:33 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted, j
r.
Ann R. Allemah, Minutes Clark
Carlsbad City Library
Statistics
February 1981
Circulation Statistics
Current
Year
Materials checked out through computer 30,022
Films and video tapes 1,231
Audio Visual equipment 102
Total Circulation 31,355
Previous
Year
28,771
934
146
29,851
Increase
(Decrease)
1,251
297
( 44 )
1,504
Reference Questions Answered
Adult Section
Children's Section
Total Reference questions answered
2,717
832
3,549
2,860
627
3,487
99 )
205
106
Materials Added to Collection
Books
Audio Visual materials
791
64
768
107
23
43 )
Attendance at Programs
Adult programs (4)
Children's programs (20)
185
1,703