HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-08-21; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
August 21, 1978
7:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
The Parks and Recreation Commission meeting was called to order
in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Raul Tarango at 7:30
p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Joe DeDiminicantanio
Barbara Donovan
Betty Wollrich
James Kinghorn
Raul Tarango
Laurie Nelson Boone
Chairman Tarango suggested direct contact with Councilperson
attending the Parks and Recreation Commission meetings be re-
stricted towards the end of the meeting to minimize time. Any-
thing said by the Councilperson is strictly his/her opinion and
n that of the City Council.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Wollrich asked that the motion regarding the letter
to the Planning Commission be amended to read the Magee House
and the not the barn.
Commissioner Wollrich stated the Commission had voted on the
approval of supporting the girls tennis club.
Commissioner Donovan stated she had voted no on the Urban Open
Space and Recreation Program (SB 174).
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved the minutes of the July 17,
1978 Commission meeting and the July 31, 1978 Commission work-
shop be approved as amended.
Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
AYES
OLD BUSINESS
A. City Hall Median Landscaping
Jon Hatch, provided the following information: The median
strip at City Hall (parking lot area) had been planted with
ice plant. Landscaping is not complete at this time.
Joe Eggleston asked that use of sound amplification at Holi-
day Park.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Use of Holiday Park/Sound Amplification
A letter dated July 17, 1978 to the Parks and Recreation
Commission from the City Manager requesting guidelines for
use of Holiday Park with sound amplification was included in
the Commission packet.
Captain Rossall of the Carlsbad Police Department addressed
the Commission. He reviews the facility use requests. In
doing so, he must consider the size of the group, use of
alcoholic beverages and sound amplification. The problem
to be considered is the use of amplified music. The request
that are denied are those dealing with loud music and long
hours. The requestor is contacted for clarification prior
to a recommendation being made. The requestor is always in-
formed they may contact the City Manager or the City Council
if they disagree with the Police Department's recommendation
CITY OF CARLSBAD
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Chairman Tarango asked what the time frame was for use of
music in the parks.
Captain Rossall said from before noon to 8 or 9 p.m.
Commissioner Wollrich asked how far in advance should the
requestor apply for use of the facility.
Captain Rossall stated the request form has printed on it
2 weeks prior notice
Commissioner Donovan asked if rock bands were indiscriminate-
ly disapproved.
Captain Rossall answered no. Applications are reviewed and
recommendations made on an individual basis. If function
has little control or the Police Department views an activi-
ty as being a nuisance, the applications are recommended for
disapproval.
Commissioner Wollrich asked' what were the possibilities of n
allowing a rock group to use the parks if the sound was aimed
away from residences.
Captain Rossall said he didn't know if that would help or if
prevailing winds would blow the sound back.
Mr. Eggleston stated the City Manager's letter to the Com-
mission requested a public hearing be held.
Commissioner Donovan stated the item is not an issue of large
proportion and does not warrant a public hearing.
Commissioner' Wollrich suggested if anyone had a complaint re-
garding the use of amplification in the parks, they should
contact the Commission.
Captain Rossall stated at this time there is not a code that
regulates amplification in the parks.
Commissioner Kinghorn said there should be a code but a publi
hearing is not necessary. There should be a regulation on
the volume and on a cut off time.
Mr. Eggleston said a amplification controller has been re-
quested in the budget that would turn the electricity off
when the sound reached a certain volume.
Commissioner DeDimincantanio moved that a letter be sent to
the City Manager stating the Commission feels it is unneces-
sary to hold a public hearing on the use of sound amplifica-
tion in the parks as it would create a problem that does
not exist.
Commissioner Wollrich seconded the motion.
Commissioner Wollrich suggested a study be prepared to set up
usage hours and volume levels for amplification in the parks
AYES
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OLD BUSINESS
B. Stretching the Parks and Recreation Dollar
A letter was written to the Commission on August 17, 1978
requesting a revision in the fee schedule for use of the
Harding Street Community Center and applicable fees be
assessed to the Magee House and the Kruger House. The lettei
was not written as a recommendation, it is to provide infor-
mation only.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio asked if the fee schedule was
for per hour or per use.
Mr. Eggleston said the Commission would make the recommenda-
tion.
^~ Mrs. Chase pointed out that the instructional classes held
in the facilities would be subject to the fee.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio said the City should not have
to pay rent on its own facilities. However, groups within
the city should be charged to use the facilities.
Mr. Eggleston stated a fee schedule study will be presented
to the City Council on August 29, 1978.
Commissioner Wollrich moved the fee scheduled be as follows:
1 Group 1 - no charge; Group 2 - resident group open to public,
ma'ximum 3 hour use; Group 3 - resident or non-resident groups
not open to the public.
Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
Ayes
Mr. Eggleston suggested as a means to cut expenses, the
Commissioners pick up their Parks and Recreation Commission
packets. This would cut $72.00 a year from the budget. The
services of Sharon Franklin as secretary to the Commission
are no longer available. Tamarra Dodson is a Clerk Typist
and does not take dictation. An appointment of a secretary
'•-- from the Commission would save from $214.00 to $266.00 per
year. If Commissioners want to attend conferences, they do
so at their own expense.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved the Parks and Recreation
Commissioners pick up their packets and elect a secretary;
however, the City should allocate funds for the Commissioners
to attend conferences.
Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
AYES
C. Budget Workshops Report
1. Parks and Recreation Commission
No additional information.
2. City Council
Jon Hatch presented the following fee schedule for Parks
Division services: a charge of $65.00 for installation of
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
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a street tree replacement request, bonding for developers
on street tree planting be increased from $35.00 to $65.00
per each lot, or $65.00 per 40 ft. of curbing; $10.00 per
man hour on request to have Park staff present at a function
other than normal working hours, $25.00 deposit for use of
City Recreation facilities which require cleaning after use,
charge of $85.00 for damage to City tree by a vehicle, $35. OC
charge for street tree replacement (larger tree) upon' request
$25.00 charge for unscheduled street tree trimming, and $20
per hour for unscheduled weed abatement.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved the fee scheduled be adopted.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio seconded the motion.
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Lynn Chase presented the following on the overhead cost for
the adult softball program: Leagues fees for 1977-78 were
$120 for a resident team and $145 for a non-resident team.
If the 1978-79 season is to" be based on the costs of
identical items with the increase in softballs and SCMAF
registration fees the cost would be $145 for a resident team
and $170 for non-resident teams. If the league is to totally
self sustaining with administrative costs added, the league
fees would be $228.26 for a resident team and $253.26 for
a non-resident team.
Mo'st cities in the area will be charging approximately the
same fee as Carlsbad's 1977-78 fee with the exception of
San Diego and El Cajon whose fees are $30 and $50 respective-
ly which do not include the cost of officials and softballs.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio requested it be researched why
Carlsbad's fees would be so much higher than the other cities
in the area.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved the softball fees be $145 for a
- resident team and $170 for a non-resident team because rais-
ing the fees any higher would eliminate the program. It is
recommended Council find other ways to work out the other
- financial problems.
Commissioner Donovan seconded the motion.
AYES
D. Other
The Parks and Recreation Commission was provided with the
201 budget reduction requested by the City Council.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved the budget reductions be
approved as presented.
-— Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
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Commissioner Donovan attended the Carlsbad Unified School
District Board meeting with Lynn Chase. The School Board
does not want to be a profit making organization but it does
not want to lose money. The large surplus the City has was
mentioned and accounts for the low priority Parks and Recrea-
tion has with the School District. If Parks and Recreation
is to use the school facilities, the District will charge
full cost of operating the facilities.
Lynn Chase indicated the School Board's attitude is very
negative toward the City and they fully intend to charge
Parks and Recreation the full fee for operation. The Parks
and Recreation Department will not offer some classes
due to the exorbitant rental fees. The Jazzercise Class
will no longer be sponsored by the Department. • The instruc-
tor.will rent school facilities using the percentage of fees
collected that the City would have received to cover the
rental fee. This means approximately a lose of $1,724 in
income to the City for a six month period.
Commissioner Kinghorn suggested the public be advised that
the recreational activities will be reduced because of the
cost of renting facilities and the small amount of income
the City receives from the instructional classes will not
not cover the cost of renting those facilities.
Lynn Chase suggested that before the public is advised of
the problem, some guidelines be received from City Council.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved a letter be sent to the School
Board outling the concerns of the Parks and Recreation
Commission regarding the fee schedule.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio seconded the motion.
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At the July 31, 1978 Parks and Recreation Commission work-
shop, the Commissioners present requested the percentage of
pay for contract instructors be 80% of fees collected..
Mrs. Chase requested consent from the full Commission.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved the percented of pay for
contract instructors be 80% of fees collected.
Commissioner Boone seconded the motion.
AYES
NEW BUSINESS
C. Ken Cox Memorial Fund
Miss Beryl E. Cox would like to donate $500 to the
children of Carlsbad in memory of her brother, Ken Cox.
The Parks and Recreation Department would make recom-
mendations on how funds are to be expended.
Commissioner Wollrich moved Council accept the donation
from Miss Cox and it be put into a trust fund.
Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
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TIME OF MEETING : 7:30 p.m.
PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers
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D. Other
The Stuart Scherr Family wishes to donate $50.00 to
the Parks and Recreation Department in memory of Rose
Giansiracusa. The donation would be used to plant a
tree in Magee Park.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved Council accept the donation.
Commissioner Boone seconded the motion.
AYES
The Parks and Recreation Department receives numereous
requests from citizens for Palm fronds. This is becom-
ing a big problem. Commissioners were asked for guide-
lines.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved the Department no longer
provide Palm fronds for anyone.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio seconded the motion.
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Lynn Chase requested approval of setting up the recrea-
tional instructional classes for a 5 month period runnin
from September to January.
Commissioner Kinghorn moved the program be set up for
5 months.
Commissioner Wollrich seconded the motion.
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Lynn Chase requested approval of the hiring of a full
time Recreation Leader III to be the Sports Coordinator.
Currently there is a part time employee who was given a
provisional appointment acting as the Sports Coordinator
whose position terminates August 25, 1978. There is an
emergency need to fill this position in order to con-
tinue with the sports program. The position is approved
in the budget.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved it be recommended
to Council to hire a Recreation Leader III to be the
Sports Coordinator
Commissioner Boone seconded the motion.
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
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Lynn Chase requested approval of hiring 7 Recreation
Leaders II for sports program at 20 hours per week,
2 Recreation Leaders II for sports program at 15 hours
per week, 1 Recreation Leader II for arts and crafts at
20 hours per week, 1 Recreation Leader II as an
instructional class coordinator for 20 hours per week,
and 1 Recreation Leader II for the teen program and
city-wide special events for 20 hours per week. These
positions are allocated in part-time salaries in the
budget.
The Commissioners stated they supported the program.
COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS
A. Street Trees
Commissioner Wollrich stated the Committee met and
revised the Street Ordinance and requests it be present-
ed to Council for approval.
Commissioner Wollrich moved staff draft the revised
ordinance and present it to Council for approval.
Commissioner Kinghorn seconded the motion.
AYES
COORDINATOR'S REPORT
Joe Eggleston asked if any Commissioner desired attending
the League of California Cities, September 24-26, 1978.
Commissioner Boone moved that no Commissioners attend
the meeting.
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio seconded the motion.
AYES
Commissioner Boone has been reappointed to the Commission
for a term that expires August, 19-82.
The La Costa Parks Agreement has be«n signed and received
from La Costa Land Company. The deed for Fuerte Park has
been received.
City Clerk Margaret Adams will retire on August 31, 1978.
The Commission request a proclamation from the City Council
be presented to Don Egermayer for his service on the Parks
and Recreation Commission.
COMMISSION ELECTION
Commissioner Wollrich moved Joe DeDimincantanio be chairman
of the Commission.
Commissioner Tarango seconded the motion.
AYES
Commissioner DeDiminicantanio moved James Kinghorn be
secretary of the Commission.
CITY OF CARLSBAD
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Commissioner Boone seconded the motion.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Parks and Recreation Commission meeting was adjourned at
10:30 p.m. by Chairman DeDiminicantanio
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