HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-03-16; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMEETING OF:
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
March 16, 1981
7:30 P.M.
Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER was made by Chairman Dahlquist at 7:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present - Chairman Dahlquist, Commissioners Boone, McFadden,
Donovan, and Murk; and City Council Liaison Lewis.
Absent - Commissioner Tarango.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held February 9, 1981, were
tabled to the next regular meeting for approval, due to lack
of a quorum.
OLD BUSINESS
Election of new Vice-Chair
Due to the resulting tie-vote at the meeting of February 9,
1981, Chairman Dahlquist indicated the Commission would have
to re-vote on the* matter.
Commissioner Boone indicated her wish to decline the
nomination. Due to the fact that there were no other
nominations, Commissioner Murk accepted the position of Vice-
Chair .
Levante Lease
Commissioner McFadden inquired if the lease had been
finalized. David Bradstreet, the Parks and"Recreation
Director responded that it has not, and indicated they were
changing the wording on the amortization costs. Following
discussion, Commissioner McFadden indicated she would like
to see the agreement state that all students in the elementary
school district may use the facilities, not all residents.
Discussion then reflected on the agreement between Jefferson
and Buena Vista. Commissioner McFadden inquired if she
could be furnished with a copy of the School Board's
findings on the Pine Field acquisition. Director Bradstreet
indicated he would check into it, and bring same back to the
next meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
Snack Bar Negotiations
A brief staff report was presented by Lynn Chase, Recreation
Superintendent, who gave some background on the matter. She
made reference to the memo from Ken Price, Recreation
Supervisor, of February 5, 1981 on the matter. She then
reported on how the snack bar was acquired, and gave a brief
history on same.
Ken Price continued the staff presentation, and suggested
each group make their presentations.
The Commission recognized Doris Beckham, representing the
Little League, who distributed copies of her presentation to
the Commission. She gave some background on organized
baseball, and the dedication of Chase Field. She outlined
the problems of the snack bar issue, and the Little League's
proposal of a one third/two third split, as a solution to the
problem.
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The Commission recognized Mike McNabb, representing the
Bobby Sox. Mr. McNabb explained their objectives, and stated
they would like to see a more equitable distribution of the
proceeds from the snack bar. He continued that the proposed
one third/two third split does not adequately reflect the
share of revenue that each organization is generating for the
snack bar. The number of games played by each organization
is more accurately the driving force, which is option no, 3
as outlined by the Parks and Recreation Department. With
regard to the equipment, he suggested that it be donated for
the common use of all groups, or that each group be
responsible for acquiring their own equipment and maintaining
same. In conclusion, he indicated they need the framework
that will provide flexibility from one season to the next.
Ken Price again continued the staff presentation, outlining
the staff's analysis of options on the matter, as contained
in the staff report.
Commission discussion reflected on how revenues have been
collected and distributed in past years, and the Bobby Sox
organization's objections to the one third/two third split.
The Commission then recognized Diane Stansel, also represent-
ing Little League. She explained that in the past, Little
League has done the books, and been responsible for getting
the supplies, setting up accounts, and maintaining same.
She added that Bobby Sox was never asked to contribute any-
thing but some workers, and they still collected their
revenue. Mr. McNabb responded that this was the way the
Little Organization chose to run things, and was the demand
of their organization. .He pointed out that-under the
proposal for this year, the Bobby Sox would be responsible
for their portion of the season, as far as operating, buying,
and acquiring the merchandise and equipment themselves. It
would be completely two independent organizations,
David Bradstreet gave a brief history on the matter, as it
existed in recent years, and indicated that other cities
share the same problem.
Council Member Anear was present, and spoke to representatives
of both organizations in private. He then reported that he
has suggested that they base the proceeds on the number of
games, and the Little League gets two (2) percent more, as
they are providing the equipment and facilities, and they
would maintain same. They would, however, have to work out
a solution for the tournament operations. He suggested that
each representative take this back to their respective
Board's.
Mr. McNabb from Bobby Sox explained that he has been given
the authority from his Board to make any decisions, He added
that a similar proposal had been made last year, and the
two organizations could not agree on what was going to be
paid for the equipment at tournament time. He stated they
need to come to agreement on post season tournament play.
Mr. McNabb suggested that option no. 3 seems to be the most
equitable.
Commissioner Murk expressed concern over resolving a
financial issue with these two organizations, using the City
Staff time.
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The Commission directed that the snack bar be closed for use
by Little League and Bobby Sox, until a written agreement for
each season is presented to the Director of Parks and
Recreation.
Chairman Dahlquist requested Commission approval to hear
Item D, Waiver/Reduction of Fees - Harding Community Center
at this time. The Commission concurred.
Waiver/Reduction of Fees - Harding Community Center
Following brief discussion on the matter, the Commission
denied the waiver of fees that have already been established.
Rancho Carrillo Master Plan
Commissioner Murk indicated he would abstain from the matter,
due to the fact that one of the principals is a client of his.
With the aid of wall exhibits, David Bradstreet gave a
brief presentation, including what has expired to date on the
matter. He then introduced Peter Templeton from the Planning
Center, to continue the presentation.
Mr. Templeton continued the presentation, with the aid of
wall exhibits, and gave some background on the project, along
with the project description.
Discussion reflected on the drainage problem along the
proposed Planning Center park site, revision of land use,
the street between the proposed residential area and the
Carrillo Ranch site, and unsafe conditions as the play fields
are laid out adjacent to Carrillo Way.'
David Bradstreet pointed out for clarification that there
are no plans for an equestrian trail throughout the
development; therefore, eliminating the possibility that Leo
Carrillo would be an equestrian center.
Discussion then reflected over Parcel "K", as delineated on
the wall exhibit, and the trade-off issue of same.
Further concern was expressed with regard to the equestrian
system, and Peter Templeton addressed the issue, pointing
out that there is not such a system today, and none of the
homes in the area are equestrian oriented.
The Commission supported Staff's recommendation to" retain
parcel "K", and further, to addressed the problem of the
street between the proposed residential area and the Carrillo
Ranch site. With regard to the equestrian trails, the
Commission chose to wait until the General Plan Element for
Parks and Recreation is updated.
Urban Open Space Recreation Grant
David Bradstreet gave a brief presentation on the matter.
The Commission discussed their views on the alternatives
provided by the Parks and Recreation Director for the use of
the funds. From the five alternatives suggested, the
Commission individually voted their preference on a priority
basis.
Boone
McFadden
Donovan
Murk
Boone
McFadden
Donovan
Murk
Boone
McFadden
Donovan
Murk
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The concensus of the Commission was as follows:
1) Playground equipment installation - Levante Park
2) Landscaping and equipment - Shapell
3) Construction of outdoor basketball court - Holiday
4) Lighting three tennis courts - High School
5) Par exercise course - Levante Park
COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT
Council Member Lewis reported that Mayor Packard would be
bringing to the Council at the meeting of March 17, 1981,
a recommendation for a new member to the Parks and Recreation
Commission. »
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Swim Complex
Director Bradstreet reported that the swimming pool is
progressing. There was a slight delay due to the rain,
however, the project is on schedule.
Park and Recreation Element Consultant
Director Bradstreet indicated that Staff is working closely
with the Commission, and further presentations would be made
by the consultants.
GPRS Conference
Director Bradstreet reported Staff was involved in the
conference, which was held in San Diego. He personally was
involved in running the tennis events, 5K run, and the golf
tournament, and indicated it was a godd conference. Next
year the conference is scheduled to be held in Sacramento. ,
1981-82 Budget
Director Bradstreet indicated the budget is in the process of
being prepared, and is due to the Finance Department by
March 27, 1981. He will have, at the next Commission meeting,
copies of the budget for distribution to the Commission.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Commissioner McFadden requested the Commission be provided
with a flow chart on how park lands are accepted. Discussion
reflected same.
ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 10; 05 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
Ann R. Alleman
Minutes Clerk