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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-09-21; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMEETING OF: DATE OF MEETING: TIME OF MEETING: PLACE OF MEETIING: MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 21, 1981 6:30 P.M. City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order by Chairman Dahlquist at 6:32 P.M. ROLL CALL Present - Chairman Dahlquist, Commissioners Boone, Murk, Donovan, McFadden, and Wright. Absent - Commissioner Tarango. Also present were: David Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation Claude Lewis, Council Liaison APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the Regular Meeting, held August 17, 1981, were approved as corrected. INTRODUCTION OF NEW STAFF MEMBERS Director Bradstreet introduced the newest members of the Staff; Marsha Backlund, Administrative Assistant; and Bob Vettle, Administrative Intern from San Diego State, who will be working on all facets of recreation, and using same as field experience. He welcomed the new members to the Department, and gave some background on their previous experience. OLD BUSINESS Cadencia Park Development Chairman Dahlquist gave some background on the matter from the last meeting. Ms. Lois Humphreys, 3337 Cadencia, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. She indicated that since the last meeting, she prepared a questionaire, to which she received 80 responses. On the designated park uses, 75 people indicated they would rather have a basic park design, and 5 people wanted designated uses. Ms. Humphreys continued to inform the Commission as to the results of the questionaire. She indicated that the majority of those people polled indicated they were willing to form an assessment district; although it would depend on the yearly cost. In conclusion, Ms. Humphreys stated that if the City plans to put soccer fields in, restrooms are a must. She added that the people do not want to see portable equipment put in, and added that they are willing to pay for the park, if it means getting what they want. Ms. Humphreys pointed out that Mr. Gerry Simons, who is also a resident; has prepared a basic design, and has indicated that he would be willing to donate his services on the project. Dahlquist Boone Murk Donovan McFadden Wright X MINUTES September 21, 1981 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS Ms. Humphreys further indicated that there are other professional people who would be willing to donate their services in the development of the park site. In response to Commission query, Ms. Humphreys indicated that they circulated approximate111 200 questionaires to people who reside in the vicinity of the park. She added that no children were consulted. Mr. Gerry Simon, 7248 Esfera Street, Carlsbad. Mr. Simon indicated he is the Senior Vice-President/Regional Manager of PRC Toups, which is a planning research and civil engineering company. Mr. Simon explained that his firm is willing to donate plans and engineering services for the development of this park site. He added that they also have a landscaper who is willing to donate his services in the project also. With the aid of a wall exhibit, Mr. Simon explained the concept of the proposed park site. He stated that they are aware of budget restraints, which is why they feel that the Homeowners' participation in the donation of services would be of great assistance. Commissioner Boone stated her opinion that the City has to think in terms of how the money can best be spent, and not in terms of a neighborhood park. She also expressed concern with regard to maintenance. Discussion reflected costs of maintenance for the proposed park site, and the potential problem of snakes, and the drop of the slopes. Commissioner Donovan suggested that fencing would be a necessity. She also inquired if the Homeowners' had considered taking over the maintenance, with guidance from the City. Director Bradstreet indicated that maintenance is approximately $5,000 per acre per year; and explained that if the City agrees to maintain certain parks, they would have to maintain all parks. Mr. Simon requested that the Commission keep in mind that there are many professional people in the neighborhood who are willing to donate their time and services. Ms. Linda Wetherill, 3319 Cadencia, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Ms. Wetherill indicated that their survey revealed that more people wanted a passive park, versus soccer and ball fields. Commissioner Boone reiterated some of the results from the Parks and Recreation Survey, done by the consultant on the Parks and Recreation Element. She added that the Commission has heard from many citizens at previous meetings of the need for playing fields within the City. Commissioner Boone expressed appreciation to Mr. Simon and the many residents who were willing to donate their time and services for the development of the proposed park site. Mr. Simon stated his opinion that the City must consider adressing the needs of the neighborhood. MINUTES September 21, 1981 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS Mr. Joseph Borg, 7247 Carpa Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Mr. Borg expressed concern that if the City puts playing fields on this site, they will use up the only open space in the area. Mr. Don Rupprecht, 3320 Cadencia Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Mr. Rupprecht distributed copies of his written presentation to the Commission, and discussed same. Mr. Rupprecht stated his opinion that it is imperative that action be taken immediately to develop this area, and enhance the beauty of the neighborhood. With regard to safety, Mr. Rupprecht stated his opinion that safety hazards will exist, regardless of the use designated for the park. He added that if the park is developed as an athletic field, the fields can be laid out in such a way as to minimize the potential for any soccer balls or baseballs being hit or kicked into the countryside. In conclusion, Mr. Rupprecht indicated that there is a definite need for additional athletic fields in the area for childrens1 organized sports, and strongly urged the Commission to proceed immediately with the development of the park area in question. Director Bradstreet indicated that the City will be holding a public meeting on the CIP Program, on Wednesday, September 30, 1981, at 7:00 P.M., at Kelly School; and he urged public attendance at same. He added that the purpose of the meeting will be to receive public input on the proposed projects within the City for the next five years. Mr. Gerry Simon addressed the Commission, and stated his opinion that baseball would not be compatible with other uses, although he feels soccer would be compatible. Commission discussion reflected the potential uses of the park site, and the effects that baseball, softball, and soccer would have on same. Ms. Nancy Dockswell, 3311 Cadencia, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Ms. Dockswell inquired if the schools were discontinuing the use of their fields for soccer activities. Chairman Dahlquist responded that they were not. Mr. John Mitchell, past President of the La Costa Youth Organization, and presently a member of the Board of Directors, addressed the Commission. Mr. Mitchell indicated that there are not enough playing fields in the City, and suggested the possibility of a tradeoff, by making El Fuerte, or some other proposed park site into an active play area. In conclusion, Mr. Mitchell requested more playing fields. Mr. Frank Malter, 2826 Unicornio Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Mr. Malter indicated he was in agreement with Mr. John Mitchell, and suggested that anything the City can do to provide more facilities will be greatly appreciated by the citizens. In response to Commission query, Director Bradstreet explained that due to non-use and costs of maintenance, the Parks and Recreation Department would recommend that the City not develop any more neighborhood parks. MINUTES September 21, 1981 Page 4 COMMISSIONERS — — _ Director Bradstreet continued to explain that the parks are usually active for the first couple of years, then the activity diminishes. He added that their philosophy is to go with the larger community parks. He indicated that much of their information is from a State wide survey, and same is in agreement with the new Parks and Recreation Element. Director Bradstreet continued to discuss maintenance costs, equipment costs, and Staff time. Director Bradstreet explained that this park site was the result of the annexation of La Costa, and the San Marcos Canyon . Commission discussion reflected their individual opinons on the development of the park site, and costs for same; as well as the alternatives outlined by Staff. Following discussion, the Commission agreed to utilize the site as a multi-purpose playing field as a temporary solution, until Alga Norte and Stagecoach are developed, at which time it would be offered to the community/neighborhood, if they will form an assessment district to pay for the maintenance. However, it they will not form the district, the site would then be sold. Ms. Nancy Holland, a resident of Cadencia Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. Ms. Holland requested clarification of the motion. Director Bradstreet explained same. Agreement for Maintenance and Use of Levante Park - Informational Item. Director Bradstreet indicated that Section 7 of the Agreement was revised to include that the building will be made available for school district use with City approval. Director Bradstreet briefly discussed the agreement, and Councils' concerns on same. NEW BUSINESS Roberti Z'berg Grant Application Director Bradstreet gave a brief report on the matter, and requested input from the Commission on same. Following discussion, the Commission agreed that Fuerte be the first choice, and Hosp be the alternative. Recommended use for Carrillo Site - Informational Item. Director Bradstreet referred to the letter of September 4, 1981, to Mayor Packard from the Historical Society, which suggests that the Leo Carrillo ranch might be an ideal location for a boarding farm. Following brief discussion, Commission concensus directed that a letter of thanks be sent to the Historical Society for their input. Dahlquist Boone Murk Donovan McFadden Wright Dahlquist Boone Murk Donovan McFadden Wright X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES September 21, 1981 Page 5 COMMISSIONERS COMMITTEE REPORTS SB 13 Commissioner McFadden gave a brief report on Senate Bill 13. Witness to a crime Commissioner Boone inquired as to the actions of a citizen if they witness vandalism to property, or any type of crime. Commission discussion reflected same, and suggested that Commissioner Boone check into the matter and report back to the Commission. Commissioner McFadden suggested that a representative from the Police Department be present at the next meeting to answer questions on same. Agua Hedionda Lagoon Chairman Dahlquist indicated that fences have been installed around the lagoon; however, expressed concern as there are still people who put their boats into the lagoon from the same areas. Director Bradstreet explained that the City has a problem with enforcement of same, as much of the area is private property. Commissioner Murk stated his opinion that same is an enforcement problem, and if the person does not have a sticker, it is the duty of the enforcement officer to issue a citation. Director Bradstreet indicated he would contact the property owners and the Police Department on the matter. Council Liaison Lewis suggested that the problem might be controlled by Dave Sammons, who operates the jet ski school. DIRECTORS' REPORT Swimming Pool Dedication Director Bradstreet reported that the pool is coming along well. He added that in his meeting with the School District, the Superintendent indicated that they did not want a separate use agreement. Director Bradstreet also reported that the dedication of the pool will be sometime in October. La Costa Canyon Park Phase II Director Bradstreet reported that the Park is under construction. Library Task Force - site analysis update. Director Bradstreet referred to the Agenda Bill for the October 13, 1981 Adjourned Council Meeting, and reported on s ame. MINUTES September 21, 1981 Page 6 COMMISSIONERS In conclusion, Director Bradstreet urged the Commissions' attendance at the Council meeting, to be held on Tuesday, October 13, 1981, at 6:00 P.M. Personnel Changes Chairman Dahlquist indicated that Commissioner Tarango has requested he not be reappointed to the Commission. She added that Mayor Packard will bring the matter up at the next Council meeting for consideration. Following brief "discussion, the Commission directed Staff to draft a letter of appreciation to Commissioner Tarango for his contributions. Director Bradstreet reported that Linda Betz, one of the Recreation Supervisors has resigned. He added that Ken Price has been promoted to Recreation Supervisor II, and Valerie Remmer has been promoted to Supervisor I. Civic Center Parking Lot Expansion Director Bradstreet reported that Staff was asked to prepare a landscape design on the parking lot expansion, which they did. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS Ordinance conflict regarding dogs in the park Director Bradstreet gave a brief update on the matter, indicating that the City Manager directed him to review same. He distributed copies of his memo to the City Manager of September 21, 1981 on same, and indicated that Staff is recommending Alternative II. Following discussion, the Commission agreed to recommend Alternative II to the City Council. Selection of Aquatics Supervisor Director Bradstreet referred to his letter of September 16, 1981 to the Superintendent of the School District, regarding the selection of the aquatics supervisor; indicating he just wanted the Commission to be aware of same. ADJOURNMENT By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 9:12 P.M., to Monday, October 19, 1981, at 6:30 P.M., at the Scout House. Respectfully Submitted, Ann R. Alleman Minutes Clerk Dahlquist Boone Murk Donovan McFadden Wright