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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
March 15, 1982
6:30 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chairman Murk at
6:37 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present - Murk, Donovan, McFadden, and McKee.
Absent - Dahlquist, Boone, and Wright.
Also present were:
David Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation
Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent
Bob Wilkinson, Park Planner
Frank Aleshire, City Manager
Claude Lewis, Council Liaison
Ann Kulchin, Council Member
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the Regular Meeting, held February 1, 1982,
were continued to the next meeting, due to lack of a
voting quorum.
NEW BUSINESS
Alta Mira Adopt-A-Park Area Request
Director Bradstreet gave a staff report on the matter.
Mr. George Rogers, representing the Alta Mira #4
Homeowners Association, addressed the Commission and
explained the requests of the Association, essentially as
contained in their letter to the Commission.
With the aid of a wall exhibit, Mr. Ernie Pruitt, Alta
Mira #4 Landscape Committee, continued the presentation,
outlining the proposed uses for the open space area.
Mr. Rogers responded to Commission questions regarding the
RV expansion, and indicated they are proposing an
additional 18 spaces to the existing 42 spaces, which
would only be for use by the Association. He further
indicated that the proposed development would be phased,
as they are looking at a long term lease, subject to
conceptual approval by the Commission and City Council.
In response to Commission query with regard to fees, Mr.
Rogers explained that funding will be generated through
a small increase in the Homeowners Association dues. He
added that it would also be possible to obtain additional
revenue by charging fees for public use.
The Commission approved the Adopt-A-Park request in
concept, and directed Staff to prepare the necessary
documents for future Commission approval; to include
special attention to the percentage for the RV park land.
Carlsbad Boys and Girls Club Request - Levante Park
Director Bradstreet gave a brief staff report on the
matter, and indicated that the request would not conflict
with the City's existing programs, but would be
supplemental to same.
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Director Bradstreet continued that the request has been
cleared through the Encinitas School District, and briefly
outlined same with the aid of wall exhibits.
Mr. Dan Sherlock, Executive Director of the Carlsbad Boys
and Girls Club, addressed the Commission. Mr. Sherlock
explained that the Carlsbad Boys and Girls Club has been
offered a grant to provide services to the children of the
La Costa area, and indicated their belief that the Levate
School site would be the most logical site for the
temporary facility.
He showed a slide presentation of other facilities used by
Boys and Girls Clubs throughout Southern California, and
requested Commission approval of a sub-lease agreement to
accomodate their proposal.
Commission discussion related to potential impacts on the
neighborhood, staffing, and hours of operation. Also
discussed was the issue of grading, and Director
Bradstreet indicated that Staff could handle same in-
house.
Club will work with the City to assure the facilities are
compatible and in conformance with the surrounding area.
Mr. Sherlock continued to respond to Commission questions
regarding a permanent facility, and indicated that they
are looking at potential sites through private developers.
He added that by the end of the lease, they hope to be in
construction at another location for a permanent
facility.
Mr. John Mitchell, member of the La Costa Youth
Organization and Carlsbad Boys and Girls Club, addressed
the Commission. Mr. Mitchell indicated that there would
be no over-lapping of activities between the two
organizations, and spoke in favor of the proposal.
Director Bradstreet indicated that Staff will keep a
master calendar of activites and use of the fields, in
order to coordinate activities of the various
organizations.
Mr. Joe Holt, President of the Carlsbad Boys and Girls
Club, addressed the Commission. Mr. Holt indicated that
the Boys and Girls Club will take whatever actions
necessary to accomodate the surrounding neighborhood.
The Commission recommended approval of a sub-lease for a
portion of the Levante School/Park area for a temporary
facility.
Request to conduct Wind-Surfing Classes on Agua Hedionda
Lagoon
Director Bradstreet gave a staff report on the matter.
Mr. Steve Bulger, IWSS Certified Instructor, representing
Internatinal Windsurfer Sailing Schools, addressed the
Commission. Mr. Bulger gave a presentation on the
matter, and indicated that they are requesting approval
from the City to use the Agua Hedionda inner lagoon as a
teaching and rental site for the International
Windsurfing Sailing School classes.
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Mr. Bulger continued his presentation, indicating that
the City would be insured, at no cost to the City. He
added that he is proposing the sport be re-established on
the lagoon, with the possibility of seasonal permits.
Mr. Mike Oddi, Supervisor Instructor for the International
Windsurfer Sailing Schools at Mission Bay in San Diego,
addressed the Commission. Mr. Oddi discussed safety
training, and indicated that out of approximately 2000
students, there have been no accidents. He added that
the sport would also provide revenue for the City, and
requested Commission consideration of same.
Commissioner McKee expressed concern with regard to
limited launch access, and restricted water space. He
suggested that if the desire of the Commission was to
approve the request, it should be conditioned to restrict
the use to specific times.
Mr. Bulger indicated he has been in contact with Mr. Dave
Sammons, Manager of the lagoon, who has agreed to rope
off a secton of the lagoon to accomodate the windsurfing
classes.
Commission discussion related to safety hazards with
regard to joint usage of the lagoon, and the feasibility
of using the middle lagoon which is leased to the City
and the YMCA by SDG&E.
Commissioner McKee expressed concern with regard to joint
usage, but agreed that everyone should be accomodated.
In discussion with the audience, it was suggested that the
use be approved for a time specific during the day,
similar to the operation at Mission Bay, and that rules
and regulations be set for sailing and sailboating.
Concern was expressed that the lagoon is monopolized by
the power-boaters, and an equitable solution to the matter
was requested.
In response to Commission query regarding fees, Mr. Oddi
indicated that the IWSS charges $60.00 for the classes,
which consist of two 3-hour sessions, with four students
at a time. He added that the students spend a total of 1
and 1/2 hours on the water.
Council Member Lewis suggested that Staff contact Mr.
Dave Sammons to discuss an equitable arrangement for
parking.
Following discussion, the Commission directed Staff to
further study the matter, and make recommendations to
provide time for the sport on the inner or middle
lagoons.
RECESS
Vice-Chairman Murk called a recess at 8:53 P.M., and the
Commission reconvened at 9:01 P.M., with four members
present.
OLD BUSINESS
Landscape Median Design Standard
Director Bradstreet gave an introduction on the matter.
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Director Bradstreet continued that Council approved
Alternative "B" by a 3 to 2 vote. He added that Rick
Engineering suggested that raised medians be installed
only at intersections for traffic control. They felt the
remainder of the median should be striped, due to the cost
to the developer to put in the raised median, as suggested
by Staff.
Director Bradstreet further indicated that there was some
concern raised with regard to the maintenance costs of
landscaped medians, and it was felt that the proposed
estimates were low. He concluded by requesting that the
Commission re-affirm the Staff recommendation with some
modifications in landscaping.
Bob Wilkinson, Park Planner, continued the staff report
with the aid of wall exhibits outlining the median island
study. He showed a slide presentation on different types
of medians in other cities, and indicated that Staff is
proposing a low-drought tolerant landscape plan for the
landscape portion of the medians.
The City Manager suggested that Staff take into
consideration ways to get the maintenance vehicles out of
traffic if Alternative "A" is approved, in order to
maintain the medians.
Commission discussion related to estimated costs for the
different alternatives, the prime and arterial roads that
would be involved, and emergency vehicle access over the
raised median islands. Also discussed were maintenance
costs, and costs for construction.
Vice-Chairman Murk suggested that the Commission consider
a combination of Alternatives "A" and "C", which would
allow the developer input.
Following discussion, the Commission recommended
Alternative "A".
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Agreement between Carlsbad Unified School District and
City of Carlsbad.
Director Bradstreet requested the Commission review the
draft agreement, and submit comments and input to him by
the end of the week.
State Beaches
Director Bradstreet reported that the State Parks and
Recreation Department will hold a meeting on Wednesday,
March 17, 1982 at 7:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers with
regard to designs for parking and restrooms for the state
beaches.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
In the interest of time, Director Bradstreet continued
his report to the next meeting, but indicated that all
projects are going well.
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ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 9:54 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
Ann R. Alleman
Minutes Clerk