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MEETING OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
TIME OF MEETING:
PLACE OF MEETING:
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
November 19, 1984
5:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
The meeting was called to order by Chairman
Wright at 5:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present - Chairman Wright, Commissioners
Commissioners Donovan, Popovich,
Dahlquist, Morrison and Conti.
Absent - Commissioner Regan.
Staff: Dave Bradstreet, Director of
Parks and Recreation
Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM;
There wasjno one present for-the open forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
The Minutes of the October 15, 1984, meeting were
approved as amended.
Commissioner Donovan was the Scribe for the October 15,
1984, meeting.
Line 8, page 2, add the word "public" before courts.
Paragraph 2, page 2, add "of" before an off-the-
wall soccer court.
Page 5, under Stagecoach Park, delete "the"
between crib wall.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA;
Agenda Changes were:
Under Committee Reports, Item 10A, Survey
Committee Update.
Under Additional Business, four items: A. Request
from Carlsbad School District Latch Key Program
Discussion; B. Donation of Stainless Steel
Wheelchair (action item to accept); C. Apply for
Historical Preservation Grant for Stagecoach,
(action item); D. Southern California Municipal
Golden Shield Award (SCMAF) -(information item).
Under Unfinished Business, Item E, Youth Center/Gym
Update.
The Agenda was approved with the above changes:
Wright
Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
Conti
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Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
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APPOINT SCRIBE:
Commissioner Conti was appointed scribe for this
meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. Paddle Tennis, Speed Soccer Request Monroe
Tennis Courts
Mr. Marsh Otsea gave a presentation for the paddle
tennis conversion of one tennis court at the Monroe
Tennis Courts, stating the court could be converted
in approximately five minutes. The net is lowered
for paddle tennis and the center line can be the
same as for tennis, making conversion a very simple
matter. Mr. Otsea also suggested that some day the
tops of the flat buildings along 1-5 should be used
for courts, and if used on Saturdays and Sundays,
there would be no parking problem.
In answer to a Commission question regarding the
cost of conversion, Dave Bradstreet said he had
given the estimate of $200 to convert one court for
paddle tennis. He added that Mr. Otsea had
volunteered to give his time to give lessons and
promote the paddle tennis.
Dave Bradstreet stated there is a possibility that
some day the school district would ask for the
return of these courts, but they have not at the
present time.
Mr. Jim Courtney from CARA, spoke on the request
for a speed soccer facility at the Monroe site. He
stated the courts are in no condition to be used as
they are, and that lights are needed; he said they
wanted to remove all the nets and construct a new
wall. He described the way the speed soccer
facility would be built. Mr. Courtney felt this
would be a money-maker for the City and Parks and
Recreation. Mr. Courtney explained speed soccer to
the Commissioners and the appeal he felt the court
would have to both adults and youngsters. He said
CARA would use for one or two months, and then
Parks and Recreation could rent the court to others
for income.
In answer to Commission query, staff stated there
could be such a facility at Stagecoach or Calavera
Hills. At phase three of Calavera there will be a
community center with an indoor gym.
The Commissioners discussed the fact that if there
were teams playing on this soccer facility, there
would have to be seating and parking. Mr. Courtney
stated there was adequate parking at the site.
Mr. Courtney stated he felt the $95,000 estimate to
convert was high, and that unless the facility was
to be turned over to the soccer association, they
felt the City should pay for the conversion.
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Mr. Courtney stated he was President of the Soccer
Club and would take full credit for this request.
Dave Bradstreet stated that the Soccer Association
said this was not an official request from them.
Mr. Bradstreet asked where the boards would be
stored and all the other material used in
connection with the speed soccer, and Mr. Courtney
said the City would have to store or rent space for
storage.
Mr. Courtney said he felt both requests should be
granted, not "either/or", as facilities are needed
for the citizens and something needs to be done
now.
Chairman Wright said the options were: 1.
Consider the proposals together as "either/or"" on
the site as proposed; 2. go with one and hold the
other to investigate further. Chairman Wright said
he had problems with the costs and putting it on
a site not the City's.
Commissioner Dahlquist moved to convert one of the
tennis courts at Monroe into a paddle tennis court
on a removable basis, with appropriate publicity to
see whether the program will go.
Commissioner Donovan stated her agreement with the
concern over the ownership of the courts and wanted
that resolved before anything was done.
Council Member Lewis stated the tennis courts are
the City's. When the swimming pool was built, the
old Council, in a verbal commitment with the school
board, said that any land that was not used would
be returned to the school. Recently the school
district requested the lots that are to be returned
per the Agenda Bill on tomorrow night's Agenda.
Chairman Wright stated the size of the pool
affected the amount of land used.
Council Member Lewis stated that if the City spent
money on this court, it would not be given back to
the school district.
In answer to Commision question, Dave Bradstreet
said the other tennis courts are heavily used and
for only $200 it would be possible to create a new
activity.
Parks and Recreation Commission voted to convert
one tennis court at the Monroe site into a paddle
tennis court on a removable basis. The facility is
to be given publicity to determine the feasibililty
of the project and whether to continue on a
permanent basis.
Wright
Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
Conti
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Parks and Recreation Commission voted to have a
feasibility study on the viability of having a
speed soccer court or facility at Stagecoach Park
or Calavera Hills, whichever park is available
first.
B* Larwin Open Space Ballfield Development
Proposal
Dave Bradstreet gave the report on this item,
stating the facility is needed, and he used a wall
map to show the location. He suggested one
ballfield and one soccer field be put on the site.
Mr. Bradstreet stated that Mrs. Ann Caples and Bob
Prescott were both working on this project and
were present tonight to answer questions.
Mrs. Caples addressed the Commission, stating this
is a condominium complex and there is a large
number of children there. She read a letter from
the homeowners association regarding the number of
children residing there, stating there eventually
will be 600 children there. There is no facility
within a reasonable proximity of the Tanglewood
development. Mrs. Caples had a map showing the
number of homes in the area, and in answer to a
question from the Commission, stated the children
would help with the work, but the homeowners
association would not contribute any money or time
toward the project. Mrs. Caples explained that
these fields would not be in conflict with any of
the homes, due to the steep slope between the area
planned for the fields and the homes.
Mr. Bradstreet discussed the parking and the
drainage, and felt there would be no drainage
problem.
Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to
prepare a master plan and a cost estimate for a
multi-use soccer and baseball field at the Larwin
site, and to contact all homeowners associations
with children involved in that area, to ask for
any assistance they might volunteer.
D. Legal Access to City Property
Dave Bradstreet gave the report on this item,
stating he had prepared a map showing the public
accesses from the assessor's map.
Parks and Recreation Commission voted to post
access signs on all legal accesses to City-owned
property. The Commission Members also asked to be
supplied a copy of the map prepared by Mr.
Bradstreet.
E. Gym/Community Center
Commissioner Dahlquist stated she would like
staff to consider the possibility of a center at
Hosp Grove in the amphitheater area.
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NEW BUSINESS;
A. Scoreboard Donation
Dave Bradstreet reported on this item, stating
that Corky McMillin Realty Company wanted to
donate a Scoreboard, similar to the attachment
to the packet. It was discussed that the
legality of putting the Scoreboard up would have
to be checked, as each school district has
different regulations regarding such
advertising.
Amendment to Motion, stating the motion was
subject to school district approval, was
approved by the Commission.-
Parks & Recreation Commission accepted the
donation of a Scoreboard for Levante Softball
Field from Corky McMillin Realty Company,
donatio
The Commission felt they should pass on quality
of items, subject to staff approval also.
B. Posted Accessways to Lagoon
This item has been discussed previously.
C. Carlsbad Unified School District Request for
Additional Pool Hours
Dave Bradstreet gave the report on this item,
giving updated handouts to the Commissioners. He
noted the changes for the Commissioners and
recommended approval.
Lynn Chase stated the shared time might change,
if a safety factor were involved, particularly
with the water polo.
Dave Bradstreet stated the City Manager had
directed him to work with the school district and
the school wants a competitive program. He felt
this was the best possible program for the pool.
Chairman Wright stated he would abstain from
discussion on this item as a member of the
Commission, as he is the Athletic Director at
Carlsbad High, and he wants an aquatic program.
He stated he wants the students water-safe.
Council Member Lewis stated the use of the
Cultural Arts Center and the swimming pool were
to be on a shared use basis and the Council will
be taking a look at that use. So far, there has
been a heavy use for the school and very light
for the Cultural Arts Center.
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Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
Conti
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Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
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Parks and Recreation Commission approved staff
recommendation for use of the swimming pool as
contained in Dave Bradstreet's report.
D. Department Capital Improvement Project
Summary
Dave Bradstreet gave copies of a new handout to
the Commissioners and read from that report.
He stated there was a hold of Cannon Park due to
negative media coverage regarding the location;
also CARA did not like that site, and the
residents of the area felt it would have a
negative impact.
He stated if a Community Center/Gym is built,
that would be in the middle of a community park.
If it is a "center", that would be in a different
location, The original recommendation was that a
community center/gym could be in a community park
within the district housing the people to support
that center. Mr. Bradstreet stated a study would
be made, using free staff time, and some of the
developers were donating time and services.
However, the first thing to be done was the
reports.
E. "Turnkey11 Parks
Commissioner Donovan stated she felt turnkey
parks could be made to work in Carlsbad.
Dave Bradstreet answered he would work with the
developers to try to get some tradeoffs to see if
this type of park could work. The City Attorney
is leary of the term "turnkey", and the
suggestion was made to change the name and try to
work some arrangement with the developers.
F. Goals and Objectives
Dave Bradstreet suggested the Commissioners look
at this report and have suggestions for the next
regular meeting.
COUNCIL REPORT;
Council Member Lewis stated he had talked with
Dave Bradstreet about the shortage of ballfields.
It is going to be brought to Council to change
the land policy and ask for all park land up
front for a development. That way Parks and
Recreation can look at the available park land as
one piece of land, rather than piecemeal.
Dave Bradstreet stated he had followed up on the
comments made at the joint meeting, and was
prparing documents for the Council.
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Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
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COMMITTEE REPORTS;
A. Survey
Chairman Wright reported 18,500 surveys were sent
out and 147 were returned, which is .8%. They are
now being tabulated.
The Committee is Chairman Wright, Commissioners
Dahlquist and Conti. Commissioner Morrison will
now join this Committee.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS;
Dave Bradstreet announced there has been a decision
to choose a consultant and take this before the
Council to help with park planning.
Announcement was made of a dinner December 5 at Tom
Ham's Restaurant, and Dave Bradstreet announced
that Commissioners could take a spouse or friend to
that dinner, with the City paying for that person.
Announcement was made of the November 30, 1984,
SCMAF awards and the fact that Carlsbad was to be
recognized for their support and number of events
sponsored by Parks and Recreation.
A. Latchkey Program
Lynn Chase gave a report on this item, giving a
newspaper article to Commission Members regarding
this type of program, and stated she would like the
feeling of the Commission if a program of this type
would be approved by them; also whether the
Commission felt this should be part of the
Recreation Department.
Commissioner Donovan expressed her support for this
and felt a joint use with the schools was the spot
for this type of program; both before school and
after school.
Mrs. Chase stated that with enough children
participating in this program, it could be self-
supporting. She stated the thought had been to go
to college people to staff the program, with the
students working at possibly minimum wage.
Council Member Lewis stated the new Council should
have a committee to report exactly what social
problems they would approach. He stated he could
not give any answer at this time.
Parks and Recreation Commission recommended to the
City Council that it be investigated by staff what
is involved in participating in a latchkey program
in cooperation with the schools. This Commission
supports the concept of such a program.
Wright
Donovan
Popovich
Dahlquist
Morrison
Conti
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December 10, 1984
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PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Ms Lynn Chase
Recreation Superintendent
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Lynn:
It is with real pleasure that we on the Parks and Recreation
Commission congratulate you for receiving the 1984 Carlsbad City
Management Award. It is our understanding that this is given in recog-
nition of outstanding management achievement and that in your case it
is largely due to the remarkable accomplishments you have made in the
areas of recreation, building maintenance and involvement in your
professional organizations.
May your future professional efforts be so richly rewarded.
Sincerely,
Scott Wright
Chairman, Parks and
Recreation Commission
Parks & Recreation Commission
"The Green Sheet"
December 10, 1984
The California Conservation Corps and Staff will be relandscaping the right-of-way
along Tamarack between El Camino Real and Elm Avenue. They will be planting 2500
shrubs/trees and ground cover.
Keith Beverly, Maintenance Worker III, has been the caretaker of Leo Carrillo
Ranch for several years. He was recently reassigned to coordinate special projects
for the Parks Division. Bruce Lentz will now be the caretaker at the Ranch.
"Letters to Santa" can be sent to St. Nick via the Parks and Recreation Department.
The letter (with a self-addressed stamped envelope) can also be dropped off at any
of the Elementary Schools, the Children's Library, the Main Office, or the Chamber
of Commerce.
The Winter Brochure will be ready for distribution on December 13. The first
day of classes will be January 14, 1985.
The Parks and Recreation Department received the Golden Shield Award from S.C.M.A.F.
(Southern California Municipal Athletic Federation) on Friday, November 30 at
their annual banquet. The award was accepted on behalf of the City by Council-
member Buddy Lewis and Commissioner Scott Wright.
To date, the Recreation Division has received 161 applications for use of facilities,
Ken Price is in the process of reviewing and prioritizing the applications.
Our annual Big Bear Ski Trip has been scheduled for February 18. Registration for
the program will be conducted throughout the month of January.
Approximately 150, 3rd-8th graders have signed up for youth basketball. We expect
200 participants before the program begins in January. The games will be held at
the newly refurbished Boy's and Girl's Club gymnasium.
THE STAFF OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU A MERRY
CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Weekly Report - December 7, 1984
CITY MANAGER'S NEWSLETTER
Calendar:
— Mon., Dec. 10, 6:00 PM PARKS and RECREATION COMMISSION
7:00 PM Christmas Party
Harding Community Center
— Mon., Dec. 10, 6:00 PM HISTORICAL SITE PRESERVATION
COMMITTEE, Council Chambers
— Tues., Dec. 11, 11:45 AM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 2ND ANNUAL
SECRETARY APPRECIATION LUNCHEON
Pea Soup Andersen's
— Tues., Dec. 11, 8:00 AM VILLAGE MERCHANTS
Konstantia's Restaurant
— Tues. ,Dec. 11, 6:00 PM CITY COUNCIL
Council Chambers
— Wed., Dec. 12, 5:30 PM SUNDOWNER
Dyna Industries, 6200 Yarrow Dr.
15 MAJOR TRAUMA PATIENTS have been flown from Carlsbad to Scripps
Trauma Center in La Jolla since Sept. 1. To improve coordination
between City Fire Dept. and Life Flight crews and reduce landing,
loading and take-off times, pilots, nurses, and medics visited
City's fire stations this week. Training dealt with land procedures,
safety around helicopters, and techniques for patient preparation.
RING IN HOLIDAYS at Chamber of Commerce 2nd ANNUAL SECRETARY
LUNCHEON at Pea Soup Andersen's, Dec. 11, 11:45 AM. Reservations
required - call 729-5924. Assemblyman Robert Frazee is speaker.
AD HOC COMMITTEE for permanent CITY ARTS COMMISSION is being
established to develop guidelines. Mayor Casler will chair
the committee.
ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS, AND SURE ENOUGH - THEY'RE YOURS.
MIKE BROOKS has been detailed to Finance Dept. to help with budgeting
and the CIP. He will continue to coordinate the Public Safety Center
project.
CALIF. CONSERVATION CORP. (CCC) is assisting the Parks Dept. in
relandscaping both sides of Tamarack extension east of El Camino Real
with drought tolerant plants.
C.I.P. UPDATE
— PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER pre-bid meeting held Dec. 3. Site
preparation will be ready to advertise for bids Dec. 31
and scheduled for Council agenda early Jan.
— PUBLIC HEARING on JAMES DRIVE Assessment District will be
on Council agenda Dec. 11
— RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD Traffic study underway to determine
how to improve alignment of street. Study will be completed
Dec. 20.
PERSONAL FINANCE INFO SESSIONS by Dr. Richard Jones are scheduled
at noon in the Council Chambers on the following dates:
12-13-84 Individual Retirement Accounts
1-10-85 Setting Yourself Up for 1985 - Records
2-14-85 Insurance
3_14_85 Real Estate Tax Shelter
4-11-85 Retirement Planning
ENGINEERING DEPT. responsible for winter mountain holiday theme
on display in City Hall Lobby - thanks to all who shared in the
decorating.
AUDIT REPORT for fiscal year ending June 30, 1984 is on Council
agenda Dec. 11. City received $29 million in revenue and spent
$21 million during the year. On June 30, 1984 we had $25 million
in fund balances - mostly reserves for capital projects.
ILLEGAL ALIEN camps pose a health and safety problem. City and
private property owners have been ordered to clean out the
encampments. A report is on Council agenda Dec. 11.
ANNEXATION TAX SPLIT agreement was approved by County Nov. 20
and is on Council agenda Dec. 18 . Carlsbad will receive 48% of
County property tax in annexed area on both land and improvements.
CONVERSATION IS AN ART IN WHICH ONE HAS ALL MANKIND AS COMPETITION.
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING asking for reduction in speed limit on La Costa
Ave. just east of El Camino Real. Reduction from 45 mph to 35 mph
needed to improve safety.
VILLAGE MERCHANTS MEETINGS will now be held each Tues. at 8:00 AM
a.t Konstantia's Restaurant on State Street due to closing of
Paparazzi's.
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