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MEETING OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
June 17, 1985
.TIME OF MEETING: 5:00 p.m. Vfe\ ^\ \
PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers ' ^vNjKS-^&V
.COMMISSIONERS ^$^$®$\
CALL TO ORDER:
The meetina was called to order by Chairman
Wright at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present - Chairman wrioht, Commissioners
Conti, Dahlquist, Donovan,
Morrison, Popovich and Regan.
Absent - None.
Staff: Dave Bradstreet, Director of
Parks & Recreation
Also Present: City Manager Frank Aleshire
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM:
There was no one present for the Open Forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the May 20, 1985, meeting were
approved as amended, as follows: Page 4, Item
8, Item A, delete name of Barbara Donovan and
insert Shirley Dahlquist.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Connissioner Dahlquist requested two additions to
the Agenda; Agua Hedionda Lagoon and Signs.
Commissioner Conti requested the addition of an
item regarding Condition of Parkways and
Landscaping on Alga Road and La Costa Boulevard.
The Agenda was approved as amended.
APPOINT SCRIBE:
Commissioner Regan was appointed Scribe for this
meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. Scribe Report.
Chairman Wright referred to the Scribe Report in
the packet and there were no questions.
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B. Use of Granary by Oceanside/Carlsbad Art
Dave Bradstreet reported that when the moving of
the granary was before the Commission, there was
also a request for exclusive use by the Art
League. The Cocmtission acted on the roving of
the granary only, with the exclusive use to be
acted upon at a later date. The Art League has
made this request.
Commissioner Conti stated the Commission should
not be stampeded into making decisions. Hie
decision on moving the granary was made with
pressure, with the statement that the decision
had to be made that night, but the granary has
not been moved at this time.
Dave Bradstreet added the matter has been
referred to committee for a report at the next
meeting.
Chairman Wright said he didn't knkow how
valuable the Art League was to the community,
but nothing had been said about the funding and
no discussions about how to bring the
granary up to standards. Also, he said the
committee should check into the idea of
exclusive use of park facilities by any
organization.
Chairman Wright added in keeping with the Brown
Act, of not having a majority of Comnission
members on a committee, which members would
serve on this project. Commissioners Regan,
Conti and Dahlquist asked to serve as the
Committee for this project. Chairman Wright
asked them to meet with the Art League and
Engineering and Planning to find information
about the costs.
Dave Bradstreet said Lynn Chase had been
assigned to that project.
NEW BUSINESS;
A. Boys and Girls Club Facility in La Costa.
Dan Sherlock, Executive Director of the Boys and
Girls Club, updated the Commission on the new
building planned in south Carlsbad, stating that
the present portable facility at Levante will be
gone when the new school is built. He presented
brochures to the Commissioners and used an
artist's rendering to show the proposed
building. He explained this property was
dedicated to the City in 1979, but the City has
not formally accepted it. It is hoped the City
will accept the property, which was set aside
for open space, and lease to the Boys and Girls
Club for $1.00 per year. The other altrnative
would be for the City to make a direct donation
to the Boys and Girls Club of the property. Mr.
Sherlock explained the building as shown would
be the first phase and later there would be a
gymnasium.
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June 17, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
Mr. Sherlock explained there is an area covered
with veqetation and there are limitations on
setbacks and heights.
In answer to query from the Commission about the
sensitive area, Mr. Sherlock explained that area
would be off-limits and there would be an
program to educate the children to stay off of
that area. He said the active areas would not
encroach on the lagoon area itself.
Mr. Sherlock explained the preferred plan would be
for the City to lease to the Boys and Girls Club
for $1.00 per year. He stated they are a non-
profit, private organization, not attached to the
City.
Mr. Sherlock stated the school at Levante should
be breaking ground in October.
B. Park Planning - Southwest Quadrant.
Dave Bradstreet reported to the Commission that on
a staff level thev are beainning to analyze the
propects for a park in the southwest quadrant. He
used the circulation map and an educational park
concept map showina the amount of acreage needed
for a park/high school/elementary and jr. high
school, which would be approximately 76 acres. He
showed the ownership of the acreage involved, with
the major owner being Hunt Properties. In
discussions with Hunt, they have indicated there
is no flat land on their property suitable for a
park. On the map showing the possible sites for a
park, the different parcels were marked, with the
76-acre area shown in a spot Research/Analysis
felt was the best-suited. This property is partly
on two different parcels, with two owners
involved.
Mr. Bradstreet stated the idea of a turnkey park
has been discussed previously with the Hunts.
They indicated they would like to explore this
concept further.
Commissioner Conti stated that his concern was
that whatever money is paid to the City is never
enough to purchase equivalent land for a park. He
felt something should be done about this.
Chairman Wright said that park land is used as a
"hostage" that is subject to neootiations.
Commissioner Donovan felt park lands should not be
used for negotiations, as prior to anything
happening. Parks and Recreation has its hands
tied. The Commission had discussed taking a new,
tougher attitude, and she felt the they should
demand turnkey parks and not give the developer a
choice.
The Director said that under the existing
procedures the developers pay P.I.L. and P.P.P.
fees; that if the City wants more, that is
something the City and developers must negotiate.
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The Parks and Recreation Comnission voted to
recommend that park sites not be negotiated away
prior to a full disclosure of a proposed project.
Additionally, that if park-in-lieu fees are
accepted instead of an acceptable piece of land,
these fees should be sufficient to purchase land
normally preferred. If the formula used to
calculate the amount of money due for park-in-lieu
fees is not sufficient, then the formula should be
changed to correspond to present conditions.
Commissioner Conti added that the builders and
developers say they are being made to pay taxes,
fees, etc. , when all they are really doing is payig
this sum of money up front prior to selling the
property to buyers.
When asked whether the marked area was the only
possible site, Mr. Bradstreet explained this was
the only site large enough for a school/park
concept, with the other sites shown just suitable
for parks only. However, he reiterated that the
Commission stand on park/school concept in the
southwest quadrant has not been endorsed and
the Commission agreed.
C. Conflict of Pool Use.
Dave Bradstreet reported there had been some
conflict of pool use when school was in session,
and he referred to the letter in the packet, which
he felt was self-explanatory.
D. ACT - Development of a Senior Center/City
Parks/
Dave Bradstreet distributed copies of the correct
reprint of the Blade Article to the Commissioners.
Chairman Wriqht felt the Commission should answer
this article, since by not responding, they would
seem to agree with what was said.
Kelly Irving, representing the Association of
Carlsbad Taxpayers and himself, addressed the
Commission, stating the absence of adequate parks
and recreation programs in Carlsbad was identified
in 1962.
Mr. Irving read the entire article which appeared
in the San Diego Union June 17, 1985. That
article is attached.
Mr. Irving stated that in 1962, San Diego State
conducted a survey, in which the City of Carlsbad
ranked 57th out of 59 Cities in providing parks
and recreation facilities.
In 1964, Ordinance 1087 was passed, the transit
occupancy tax, and all money collected from the
TOT tax was to go to parks and recreation
development, but between then and now the City
changed its mind.
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In 1965, Carlsbad High School made a survey of
parks and recreation facilities with the same
finding as in 1962.
1968, the Journal and Blade ran a series of
articles on the same problems, with the need just
as apparent then as it is today, and the shortage
just as apparent.
In 1969, the meetings of the Parks and Recreation
Commission, Planning Commission and City Council
all agreed to the goals and objectives for parks
and recreation facilities, with regional parks and
ballfields.
The City hired a consultant in 1973, who re-
emphasized the same things.
In 1975, the objectives of the Parks and Recreation
Department approved during the budget hearings, was
to build ballfields and parks to alleviate the
shortage.
The General Plan was adopted in 1977, with a formal
policy of the City to do something about the
shortage of facilities, parks and ballfields.
In 1984, a shortage of ballfields was recognized at
being 19.
Mr. Irving stated there was a track record of 25
years of people having Parks & Recreation meetings.
shuffling paper, making notions, trying to persuade
developers to give land and the City Council to do
something — and the City is short the same 19
ballfields.
Mr. Irving mentioned Calavera Hills Park, and
stated that when grading is started, rock will be
found, making the grading cost high. Any time the
cost of any park project has increased, the work on
that project has been sidetracked.
In 1984, the City employees conducted a survey of
300 taxpayers. They asked, "What is your favorite
City service?" The expected answer would have been
the library, but to their surprise they found it a
nip-and-tuck race between the library and parks and
recreation.
Mr. Irving continued, stating Mr. Strayer and Mr.
Courtney are donating their time talking to
everyone to try to get something done. However,
nothing of any consequence has been done since the
survey in 1962. At this point, people are becoming
burned out, and Mr. Strayer and Mr. Courtney will
also become burned out if they stay at this chore
and can't get anything done.
Mr. Irving said the Board of Carlsbad Taxpayers is
looking into the possibility that the present
system has some fatal defects that precludes any
adequate ballfields ever being built in Carlsbad.
The time is overdue for the citizens to band
togther to use an initiative to take the decision-
making away from the powers that be.
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Mr. Irving stated he did not believe this
Conmission oould pass notions, adopt
recommendations and look at any program that will
result in anything worthwhile. He felt the
citizens should band together and through an
initiative get someone to make a decision to take
a share of the money and put it to use.
The park at Stagecoach will be a nice park and
Calavera Hills may be built, according to Mr.
Irving. He felt the citizens should develop a
plan and take it to all interested parties,
including the Council, and if it isn't adopted,
then take it directly to the voters. They want
parks and recreation facilities and have wanted
them for 25 years.
In answer to Conmission query as to why he only
talked about "fields" when there were other
problems, Mr. Irving stated he had not intended to
limit the comments to ballfields only, he just
felt the current process does not work and nothing
has been done that works.
Chairman Wright stated that two things needed to
be addressed; one, that most of the Commissioners
were not on the Commission during those years;
also, the .Council has changed members during that
time. A new Parks and Recreation element was
adopted during that time, changing the concept as
far as types of parks.
Chairman Wright said that there is a shortage of
ballfields for all the organizations using the
fields. Many communities have private
organizations using school and City fields, while
some private organizations have their own fields.
They have means that the City does not have; the
ability to get donations of money or land for
their ballfields, and they can use a smaller
acreage for the fields. Also, the Council and
Parks and Recreation have been trying to do
something about the immediate shortage and plan to
anticipate growth and know where the growth areas
are and work with developers in advance to get
land up front. There has been a lot of building
going on and no park land. The new element
changed the concept from neighborhood parks to
parks of a minimum of 20 acres. Chairman Wright
said the parks are needed right now and a logical,
well-thought-out plan for buildout. He concluded,
stating there are several things working at the
present tiros, with a change in philosophy and
direction.
Mr. Irving stated the problem existed before the
growth and the growth just magnified the problem —
which is now 25 years old.
Mr. Irving asked about parks in the older, built-
up section of Carlsbad, and Chairman Wright
answered that was a problem — to find 20 acres for
a park in that area.
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Commissioner Conti commented about places where
private organizations play on their own fields.
Chairman Wright stated that if the fields are
available after school, legally those school fields
must be made available to the private organizations
for their use.
Greg Nelson, CARA, stated there is a lot of
frustration, but he felt if everyone worked
together, within a year or so there would be
fields.
Commissioner Morrison inquired about attendance at
CARA meetings, and Comnissioner Dahlquist stated
the CARA meetings are Board Members only, with
those representatives carrying the information out
to the parents.
Dave Bradstreet read from his report to the
Commission dated August 8, 1984, in which he said
the public felt the City was not moving fast enough
in supplying the needs for ballfields and
recreation facilities. This program has now been
accelerated. Other cities have same problem as
Carlsbad, and all use the agreement with the
schools, as Carlsbad does. Some cities have excess
park land for the organizations to build their own
fields; some cities charge fees, but it is
impossible to meet all the user demands. That is
one reason the City is developing nulti-use playing
facilities. They provide for a more versatile
public use.
Mr. Bradstreet continued, stating Carlsbad is
unique, in that Parks and Recreaton schedules all
of the school sites and all of the publiic sites.
It does take a long time to build such facilities,
and Mr. Bradstreet felt Carlsbad was doing
something—that things are happening. He
encouraged CARA to find some land and get
assistance from the schools and the City to build
some facilities.
Mr. Bradstreet stated that Calavera Hills Park will
be built. In answer to query, he stated that
Macario Park will be recommended for development
when access and utilities are available.
Mr. John Strayer, CARA, spoke, saying he testified
at a public hearing before Council last Tuesday
evening and suggested the Commissioners view the
video tape of the meeting. He added that CARA is
not strictly for active recreation areas, but is
also interested in passive areas for parks. Mr.
Strayer felt that much had happened the last year
and he complimented the Council for its actions in
getting park facilities started.
In answer to Commission query as to whether CARA
had pursued buying their own fields, Mr. Strayer
said they had, but the cost of land was
prohibitive. The suggestion was made that they
should try to get the land donated to them.
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Mike Glass, Preident of La Costa Youth
'Organization, spoke, stating CARA was not formed
to seek ballfields on an individual basis.
Richard Nieves, 4927 Lena Way, agreed with Mr.
Irving, stating no progress had been nade.
E. Acceptance of Donation.
Dave Bradstreet called attention to the Agenda
Bill in the packet and said he would like to
write a thank-you note to show appreciation to
the Twin Inns.
F. Community Center Design Review.
Ron Paige gave an update on the three
alternatives for buildings for the parks. He
said the buildings are for use in any of the
parks and he would like comments and direction
from the Comnission. vtien the grading is done
for the Calavera Hills Park, the building pad
must be built at that time, making it necessary
for the type of building to be known.
Mr. Paige described the three buildings from the
drawings on the board and explained the
differences in the buildings.
The Third alternative was the largest and most
usable building, and the Commissioners felt this
was the building that should be considered.
The Parks and Recreation Comnission voted in
favor of the building designated as Alternative
13 to be considered for construction in the parks
being built at this time.
COMMITTEE REPORTS;
A. Special Program/Projects Committee.
1. Barn Restoration
Commissioner Morrison gave the report, stating
classes for the handicapped through Parks and
Recreation had been suggested. Also, a grant had
been applied for.
B. Park Site and Facility Planning Committee.
Dave Bradstreet reported the Christ Presbyterian
Church had offered a site for ballfields, and
with CARA and the City working with the parents,
he felt this has possibilities. He would like to
show the Commission the site. Mr. Bradstreet
stated it would be a two to four-year lease with
the church. An agreement would have to be made
on the liability and who would pay for the
improvements. The Committee to work on this
project would be Commissioners Regan, Dahlquist
and Popovich.
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DIRECTOR'S REPORT;
Dave Bradstreet updated the work on the high
school site and said CARA and Mr. Strayer are
working on an agreement with the school district
to allow them to go on the site to do the
improvements. They will put a plan together and
come to the City and the school district. The
grading is being done free of charge. The City has
made an agreement with the school district for a
master plan of that area. There is the possibility
of a school/park site.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS;
Agua Hedionda Lagoon
Commissioner Dahlquist reported she made a
presentation to City Council on the aquatic park
and the matter was referred to City Manager Frank
Aleshire, to meet with SDG&E.
Frank Aleshire, City Manager, reported he net with
SDG&E officials and they said they were willing to
consider the sale or lease of the property. They
stated they would rather have the City own the land
rather than the State, and would give an answer
when a formal request had ben made. A letter was
sent to SDG&E, but it is thought they are not
anxious to do this, but are willing to consider the
proposal.
SDG&E had said they use the easterly lagoon as
backup in case something happens to the seaward
portion of the lagoon and need an alternate supply
of water. They would support dredging, but might
not want to give up lagoon without conditions.
Commissioner Dahlquist asked the status of the
signs for public access.
Doug Duncanson reported the signs will be made as
soon as the sign-carving machine is purchased.
This will be after July 1, 1985, and hopefully the
signs will be installed by September 15.
Parkways in La Costa
Comnissioner Conti asked for this item to be added
to the Agenda, stating he felt the weed situation
was now at a dangerous level. He mentioned
specificaly Alga Road, east of El Camino to its
end. Dave Bradstreet will find out who is
responsible for the cutting of the weeds in the La
Costa area.
ADJOURM1EOT;
By proper motion, the meeting of June 17, 1985, was
adjourned at 7:24 p.m.
tfull tted.
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
John Strayer sees softball
fields in flat vacant lots
By Lisa Petrillo
Staff Writer
CARLSBAD - John Strayer gets excited when he
sees fiat vacant lots, because all he can see among the
weeds and dirt clods is potential softball fields.
Strayer, who quit his sales manager job for the
summer to devote himself to sports, is the self-ap-
pointed ball field scout and the elected vice president
of Carlsbad Athletic and Recreation Association, a
two-year-old organization dedicated to, as one mem-
ber puts it, "pressuring the city into giving us what wewant"
What CARA wants - as do a lot of other people inCarlsbad - is a place to play.
At last official city count, Carlsbad was U ball
fields short of its needs. The shortage is so bad that the
city Parks and Becreatioa Doaartment has to as* six
school fields ia taeee school dlstricto asat two ckerea
-Si*
fields to scrape together a total of U fields.
Recreation supervisor Ken Price spends days trying
to fit 1S.MO people per month - that's 22 leagues and
ISO teams, not including the co-ed ones - onto those1* fields. He equates it with being a hotel manager.
"You have to make sure everyone has a place tostay and everyone is safe," be said.
At scheduling time, Price gathers a representative
from each league and lets them argue over who gets
what field when, and then logs the year-round master
schedule in his two "Bibles."
What makes bis job even tougher is blocking out
extra time for the 20 to 30 companies and churches
that come to the dty for picnic space.
Price knows it's unlikely, but be'd like to see ISmore bag fields ia Carlsbad*
So* flBAYEB ea Page B-4
StrayereBees softbalf fields
CoKfaned from B-l
When the shortage first became
tbrions four years ago, the city ap-
proached local school districts andnade a deal to use their ball fields.
-Currently, they use six fields fromthree different school districts.
Stayer's got his eye on the land
; that in another eight years may be
the second high school for the city.
He's hoping that some deal can beworked out for fields to be built there
; within another year.
Bobby Sox league president Bob
Fenner is less enthusiastic about dry
recreation policies than Strayer. m
fact, he's downright angry-"Show me one thing this city?*
• done for youth in the last five years,"
'• Fenner said.
The only city park for youth is
Chase Field, with two Little League
fields and a girls' league field. Thecity finished the swimming pool,
which it shares with UK high scbootronly two years ago.
He points to the $150,000 to
HOO.OOO the city collects every year
from developers specifically for
parks. It wasn't until this year that
any major expenditure on parks was
made, be said, wne* lit million was
allocated ia the capital improvement
program to develop Stagecoach Park
in southeast Carlsbad, near La Costa.
Fenner and Jim Courtney helped
form CARA because they saw tAnfelack of fields.
There was no place for adults to
play soccer, football or softball,"
Courtney said. "There was no place
for resident youths to play soccer,football or softbalL"
Feoner wants the city to chip in
some of the costs of maintaining the
ball fields, beyond the lawn mowingami watering.
He said his league has to paysomeone to stripe the fields, put in
the bases and the pttckertmound; as
wen as cleaa up fa* HsU after
games. His league uses tha fieU atValley Oak ------
girls play there one day a week,
"If I had one more field, I could be
out and home before da»V he slid.
As it stands now, his teams play from
after school until 10 pjo, which he
doesn't like because he feels that
playing so late may take away fromsome of the youths'homework time.
Fenner also was unable to start a
beginners' league due to lack of
space. When he asked the city for
more field time because of the in-
crease of players, officials told him
to get rid of half Us girls. Fenner
said.Meanwhile, tar shortage of parks
and playing fields worries Strayer
because he sees Carlsbad growing
even more.
"Houses are going in like crazy up
(in La Costa) and there's kids, there's
people and there's not enough space
to play. The problem is over there inEncmitas and Ottvenbain, they took
right at our parka, and use them too,"
be said.Strayer ia inikeaainital in the La
Costa Man's Orer* League, which
plays Sundays at nearby Levante
Park. It use* s» be. we'd g» out toLevant* Suooj* ajoraingv graa a
!***> ^^« IrvMaaai ek^eaMLjMa^*F_aV^B^ai' MnaiiD**, jv« UKniV li^iVVVWuVV* ••••*play pick-op (basteall)," sigh*Stniyer.'Theasdajeartgoae," .
Last sunwise. Staavar aseViOtBer*
softball fan* approached the City
Coundl at budget tine, beg*** fa*.
some hods far mare parks asd play-
ing fieMs. . .The council complied and iMpeneVing M million on 50 acres worth of
parks. The upcoming Stagecoach and
Calavara parks will have sis fields
between than) ' i
Still Stray* is disappointed be-
cause construction uncovered an old
stream at Stagecoach in tht south-
east section of the city, and the state
demands the ana must be saved.
That meant two fees ball fields can
fstaeltsfetaecst-
wsl bereaif aattOat
IJIT, said city Park* and Recreatte*
chief Dave Bradstreet - or asStrayer puts it, they won't be play-
able until soccer season 'SI
In the meaatine, Strayer and
sports-minded associates are I
to get a flat lot near the new Pi ashy
terian Church. The church is wiUsag
to work out a deal and offer two
fields, but as much as Strayer savors
the piece of dirt off of Ranoho Saaat
Fe and Levante Avenue, be concedesthe apartment next door might set-
ter a few broken windows. They'll
have to settle for one, be said.
The hunger for kail fields is so
great that a deal was made over hi
one of the industrial parks to set up
two fields there. KoUCo. allowed twe
fields to go up on vacant lots in the
industrial park near Ptlomar Aa>
port, and through the evening Rotary
Club and community members got
together to create fields there.
They're ready to play on, Bradstreet
said.
The city also has long-range plans
for even more parks and even mere
ball fields, but all that takes approv-
al from state, county and.city agen-cies and time, be said.
City Manager Frask Aleahire roe-
ogoisestbe park aed ball field short,
age, and the fnstntiOB in the coav
maaity where league) can't expandor practice enough to suit themselves
because of U«at space
"¥o« caa't just rat oat and betid a
beU field," Aksae* said.
tke dt^efacitttiesaave bees ade-
quate up until tht last two years, ha.
said. The ctty got behind because of-
ficials have beta plamsag saoaQ.
parksisatae* of larger,
•is; at lakLTll switch ia
philosophy and spenaaaf. has been
tt»
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8
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tri
node, he said.
He attributes the e*jr» fast growth
and booming heaise Ma* wtta the
aiMliM dkHMaflat flV Baafattk
Strayer seta fcaaauvesatj. "We got
boated," he saa*<*aaasjte we didn'tplea ahead," :
June 18, 1985
TO: MAYOR CASLER
COUNCILMEMBER CHICK •-
COUNCILMEMBER KULCHIN
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
COUNCILMEMBER PETTINE
FROM: Parks & Recreation Commission
SUMMARY REPORT OF ACTION ITEMS FROM 6/17/85 MEETING
1. Use of Granary by Oceanside/Carlsbad Art League
This item has been deferred to the Park Site and Facility
Planning Committee, (S. Dahlquist, J. Conti, C. Regan)
and they will report at the July meeting.
Motion passed - 7 for, 0 against
2. Park Planning
. It was moved to make a formal statement that park sites
not be used for negotiation prior to full disclosure of
the developers' project. In addition, that park-in-lieu
fees be sufficient to purchase adequate land for a park site,
Motion passed - 7 for, 0 against
3. Community Center Building
It was passed unanimously that scheme #3 is the preferred
plan for the community center building.
Motion passed - 7 for, 0 against
Respectfully submitted,
CATHY REGA1
Parks & Recreation Commissioner
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c: City Manager
Parks & Recreation Commission
Parks & Recreation Director
ATTACHMENT "A1
July 9, 1985
TO: PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
FROM: Parks Superintendent-^-^J--^
MAINTENANCE OF ALGA ROAD & LA COSTA AVENUE ROADSIDES AND BANKS
BACKGROUND
The unsightly condition of the landscape adjacent to Alga Road
and La Costa Avenue has been brought to the attention of the
Parks and Recreation Department. Staff has investigated the
problem area and offers the folTowing recommendations and
findings for your consideration.
RECOMMENDATION
A) The City continue to provide maintenance to these areas
based on a Zone Two standard (Refined Landscape). Zone
Two is identified on Page 57 of the Landscape Guidelines
Manual and is typified by low maintenance landscaping
requiring 10" to 30" supplemental irrigation.
B) The Fire Department be notified of any weed problems
or potential fire hazards.
C) Staff explore the feasibility of establishing an
Assessment District.
DISCUSSION
The subject property is owned by both the City and many private
individuals and/or groups. The City is responsible for the ten
foot easement extending from the curb away from the paved
surface and any medians. All other property"is the responsibility
of the land/home owner. The right of way area does not pose a
fire hazard.
New property being developed must meet the City Standards as
outlined in the Landscape Guidelines Manual or meet conditions
of development which specifically address the slopes and banks
in questions. The subject property is not addressed by the
Guidelines Manual because it was developed prior to the adoption
of the Manual as a City Ordinance.
An alternative measure to insure landscape maintenance of the
slopes is to establish an assessment district. This would
require a vote of the property owners. Assessment Districts
have proven to be very unpopular. A recent proposal to form
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July 9, 1985
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an assessment district for the maintenance of slopes on the
southwest side of La Costa Avenue was defeated by" over 90% of
the vote.
Another method of potentially improving the area is by a
public relations campaign. This could be done by informing all
citizens of the existing problem, clarifying maintenance
responsibilities, and offering information to eradicate these
situations. The "Carlsbad Report" would be an ideal means of
educating property owners.
The fire hazard issue has been referred to the Fire Department
Weed Abatement Program.
FISCAL IMPACT
The landcape maintenance of the right of ways will not result
in any increased costs as staff currently maintains these areas.
The establishment of an assessment district would involve
considerable staff time as well as consultants' time to assist
with necessary logistics. In addition, there would be the cost
of an election estimated at $7,500.
DOUG*t»UNCANSON
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TEKRAMAR ASSOCIA TION
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA
P.O. BOX860
92008 jULf; :-f335
June 27, 1985
Mr. David Bradstreet
1200 Elm Street
Carlsbad, California 92008
Attention: Parks and Recreation Commission
Dear Mr. Bradsteet,
The Terramar Association would like to be on the July 15, 1985 agenda
for the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting. The topic regards
the Cannon Lake, and in particular, having the mosquito infestation
corrected as soon as possible.
Additional areas of concern are:
1. The clean up of the north end of Cannon Lake, i.e., the dumped
debris, reeds and other catalysts for mosquito breeding.
2. The reduction of algae build-up along the banks and drainage
areas.
Thank you for attempting to include us on your agenda and writing a
letter of confirmation at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
David Woodward, President
Sharon Pierce, Treasurer
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Panel to Study
'Deplorable'
State of Parks
ByTOMGREELEY, ,
Times Staff Writer ' ~
. The San Diego Park and Recrea-
tion Board unanimously agreed
Thursday to study ways to improve
the "deplorable" maintenance of
parks citywide. They will consider
whether money set aside for acqui-
sition of open space should be used
for a cleanup campaign, i ••
The action followed a slide show
by the Harborview Community
Council, an independent communi-
ty action group, protesting the
shabby conditions at parks in Lo-
gan Heights and Southeast San
Diego.
Al Ducheny, president of the
Harborview council, claimed that
there was a "total lack of commit-
ment on the part of the Gty of San
Diego to provide decent recrea-
tional facUities for the mostly mi-
nority and lower-income residents
of our community."
Denise Ducheny said those con-
ditions were "sadly reminiscent of
conditions in the South" before the
civil rights movement
Harborview asked the board to
"investigate the great disparities
which exist between city park
facilities in other neighborhoods
and those in Logan Heights and
Southeast San Diego." Board mem-
bers agreed that their study should
address that concern, but pointed
out that shabby maintenance was a
problem at parks throughout the
city.
City Park and Recreation Direc-
tor George Loveland said Harbor-
view's presentation was "very
timely," and "graphically demon-
strated the maintenance problems"
at Memorial, Grant Hill, Sherman
Little and Chicano parks. "Those
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conditions are deplorable," he said.
Commissioner Ann Hix told the
Harborview group that shabby
maintenance was /"not only con-
fined to your neighborhood and
your parks." Said/ the board should
"look at the whole maintenance
allocation system." Loveland
agreed the city was "providing a
minimal level pi maintenance city-
wide." - /-. , ... .. ...... •
Loveland /added that mainte-
nance problems probably would
get worse under current spending
plans. Whfle most new parks are
being developed with assessment
fees gleaned from various develop-
ing areas, "the city is still going to
have to pay to maintain them."
"We cannot in our own mind
balance that situation readily,"
Loveland said, noting that the $20
million the city has set aside for
acquisition of open space likely
could only be spent for that pur-
pose and not transfered into a
maintenance fund.
Commissioner Bernie Rhinerson
then suggested the study deter-
mine whether other funds reserved
for development of future parks
could instead be spent on existing
ones. Commissioner Dan Allen said
the board should attempt to "sell
the City Council on the idea of
spending more money on our parks
system."
Juggling the Park and Recrea-
tion budget, particularly if it in-
volves delaying development of
new parks, Hix admitted, was a
thorny "political problem. You just
won't be able to seU the people of
the Mid-City area on the idea that
they should wait longer for parks
they consider to be long overdue so
parks in other parts of the city can
be cleaned up," she said.
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1200 ELM AVENUE •JJ?W,JM TELEPHONE
CARLSBAD, CA 92008-1989 WH'/.^M <619> 438-5571
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Citp of Cartebab
PdflKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT
July 9, 1985
Dr. William Streshley, Superintendent
San Marcos Unified School District
270 San Marcos Boulevard
San Marcos, CA 92069
FUERTE/LA COSTA MEADOWS SCHOOL/PARK
Dear Dr. Streshley:
This letter will serve to confirm our meeting on July 8, 1985
regarding the City's obligation for payment for work done on
the park site by the San Marcos School District in conjunction
with the elementary school development.
As per our discussion, the City agrees to pay for the following
work and services:
A. Grading $20,000
B. Fill Dirt 20,000
C. Mounding and Landscaping Corintia
Access 4,000
D. Fencing (top of slopes and
Corintia Street frontage) 8,000
E. Architect & Engineering Services 3 , OOP
TOTAL $55,000
In addition, the City agrees to administer and contract
separately the remaining portion of the park development.
A. Soil Amendments (turf section)
B. Irrigation Installation (turf section)
C. Purchase and installation of (1) backstop
(large field only) .
D. Purchase arid installation of bleachers.
E. Installation of stairway leading from upper
playground area.
F. Installation of sidewalk along south section of
school leading from school parking lot to park area.
Note: Item (F) will be determined at a later
date after a needs analysis.
Superintendent Streshley
San Marcos School District
July 9, 1985
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If the above meets with your approval, I will prepare an
Agenda Bill for Council authorization for payment as soon as
possible.
Thank you for your cooperation in working with the City of
Carlsbad on this joint project.
Sincerely,
DAVID L. BRADSTREET
Parks & Recreation Director
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Davis/Duhaime Associates
Assistant City Manager Frank Mannen
Assistant City Manager Ray Patchett
Park Planner
Parks and Recreation Commission
Parks & Recreation Commission
"The Green Sheet"
July 15, 1985
The Triathlon was extremely successful again this year
with 772 participants! Many thanks to Ken Price, staff,
and all the volunteers that assisted with the event.
Andy Bullington from the Recreation Division and Paul
York of Building Maintenance were selected for the
position of Maintenance Worker I. They will be assigned
to the Utilities Maintenance Department. Congratulations
to them both!
Reorganization has struck again! Parks and Recreation is
now assigned to Ray Patchett, the new Assistant City
Manager.
Marsha Payne will be the interim Senior Citizen Coordinator
until the position is filled. Personnel is in the process
of recruiting for a Coordinator. We hope to have the
individual employed by August 1.
Dave Bradstreet is currently meeting with officials from
the San Marcos School District to negotiate costs to be
paid to the District for services performed at Fuerte.
Plans and specifications are being prepared by Rick
Engineering. Construction documents will be completed in
August.
Doris Cosman, our new Secretary, started work on July 1.
We are happy to have her aboard.
The Recreation Division is getting ready for their annual
Catalina Campout. This event is scheduled for July 26, 27 and 28,
Coming up in August is the Bodysurfing Contest! The contest
will be held at Carlsbad State Beach below the Offshore
Surf Shop on the 10th and llth.
To date the Department has sold over 300 Annual Boat Permits
to the users of Agua Hedionda Lagoon.