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MEETING OF:
DATE OP MEETING:
TIME OP MEETING:
PLACE OF MEETING:
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
September 16, 1985
5:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
The meeting was called to order by Chairman
Wright at 5:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present - Chairman Wright, Commissioners
Conti, Dahlquist, Donovan, Morrison,
Popovich and Regan.
Absent - None.
Staff:Dave Bradstreet, Director of
Parks & Recreation
Doug Duncanson, Park
Superintendent
Marsha Payne, Administrative
Assistant II
Lynn Chase, Rec. Supervisor
Also Present: Council Liaison Pettine
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM;
There was no one present for the Open Forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
The Minutes of the July 15, 1985, meeting were
approved as amended, to add the word "no" to
the last sentence of the first paragraph under
Item C.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA;
Chairman Wright asked the Commission to delete
Items D and E under New Business.
Additional Business additions were as follows:
Groundbreaking for Stagecoach Park
Calavara Hills School/Park Development
Alga Median Development
The Agenda was approved as amended.
APPOINT SCRIBE;
Commissioner Conti was appointed Scribe for this
meeting.
Wright
Conti
Dahlquist
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
Wright
Conti
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Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
INTRODUCTION;
Dave Bradstreet introduced Sue Spickard, the new
Senior Citizen Coordinator. She will be the
staff liaison for the new Senior Citizen
Commission. Her job will be to update
the existing activities and initiate new
programs for the senior citizens. Mr.
Bradstreet further stated Parks & Recreation
Department has been assigned by Council to do a
site and facility study for a permanent senior
center.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS;
A. Granary
Doug Duncanson gave the report on this item,
reporting the estimated cost to bring the
granary up to code is $6,000.00. If volunteers
are used, the cost could be reduced to
$3,000.00. This will be discussed further under
Committee Reports.
B. Weed Abatement Program
Doug Duncanson gave the staff report, stating
the Fire Department reviewed the weed problem on
Alga Road and La Costa and determined it was not
a fire hazard. If the weeds are removed, this
would create an erosion problem.
Chairman Wright stated the problem is this is
privately-owned land and not city-owned.
Dave Bradstreet said Doug Duncanson had followed
the Commission's instructions and alerted the
Fire Department. They do not feel there is a
problem, so nothing more can be done.
Discussion followed with some Commissioners
feeling it was a problem and they only needed to
cut the weeds—not pull them out.
Chairman Wright stated this was out of the
Commission's realm and they could follow up on
an individual basis.
Assistant City Manager Ray Patchett suggested the
Building Department could conduct a maintenance
inspection of the area, and the consensus of the
Parks & Recreation Commission was to have another
Department in the City pursue this matter.
C. Scribe Report
Chairman Wright asked Council Member Pettine to
relay to Council there had been no response to
the last three Scribe Reports.
D. State purchase of Agua Hedionda Lagoon
Commissioner Dahlquist reported on this matter,
stating letters had been sent to all State and
National representatives. She reiterated her
belief this lagoon would work into the parks
system.
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
Parks and Recreation Comnission voted to pursue
the procuring of Auga Hedionda Lagoon to become
part of the State Parks system.
E. Review of Community Center Stagecoach Park
Dave Bradstreet gave an update on the plans for
the community center at Stagecoach Park, stating
the building chosen would cost more thanoriginally estimated. Also, supervision,
custodial charges and maintenance had not been
included.
Commissioner Donovan stated Ron Paige needed an
immediate response at the time of the August
meeting on changes in the building. She stated
she opposed the elimination of the window in the
classroom. Mr. Duncanson stated the window was
being eliminated. Mr. Bradstreet said he was
unaware of any changes in the plan.
Commissioner Regan stated there was a need for
an entranoeway into the hallway, and a folding
door for the classroom, in the event the room
were divided for two activities. Commissioner
Popovich requested Ron Paige return to the
Commission with a rendering of the building.
Dave Bradstreet said a special meeting would be
necessary.
NEW BUSINESS;
A. Relocation of Historical Oil Drilling
Apparatus
Photographs of the apparatus were given to the
Commissioners for their review. Doug Duncanson
reported these are old wooden wheels left over
from the 1915 time frame. The Historical
Society wants these wheels moved to Carrillo
Ranch, and the owner wants a letter of release
during the moving process. The Parks &
Recreation Commission is to consider whether to
recommend these wheels be obtained and express
their feelings. Mr. Duncanson estimated the
cost would be $1,000.00 staff time and equipment
to move the wheels.
In answer to query, it was determined the ownerhad not been asked to relocate the wheels, but
it was thought he would just dispose of them.
Margorie Howard-Jones, Historical Society, said
the Engineering Department informed the Society
about these wheels and the Society felt they
were of historical value.
Wright
Conti
Dahlquist
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
Parks & Recreation Commission denied the request
to have the Parks & Recreation Department
relocate historic oil drilling apparatus.
In discussion, the Commission determined
Carrillo Ranch would be the closest move for the
apparatus. The suggestion was made for the
developer to do the moving, with the Historical
Society pursuing this.
Parks & Recreation Commission accepted the gift
of the oil drilling apparatus and requested and
encouraged the developer to move the apparatus
to Carrillo Rancho or another historical site.
B. Lake Calavera Hills
John Baum, 3749 Sky Haven Lane, Oceanslde, asked
the Commission to study the possibility of
making the land around the lake into a park.
The residents are concerned about the recent
plans to drain the lake and sell the land to
developers.
Mr. Baum stated the residents do not want the
lake drained, as there would be a loss of
habitat and animals. They want permission from
Costa Real Water Commission to clean the area
themselves. They -have volunteers and donations
to get this work done.
Mary Friedman, 3737 Sky Haven Lane, stated the
residents want it as a separate entity and asked
for any help the Commission could give.
Chairman Wright stated the residents were
desirous of keeping this area open space and as a
natural habitat. A regional park would be one
possibility. It could be on a day use basis,
with a fee charged to help pay for insurance.
The land and lake are owned by Carlsbad
Water Department and is not in the inventory of
Parks & Recreation. If the City leases or
sells, any proceeds from this land would go back
to the Water Department and Costa Real. This
would be under the auspices of Roger Greer.
Parks & Recreation Commission expressed their
support for some type of public park in the Lake
Calavera area, with a recommendation to be sent
to the water District.
Mr. Baum invited the Commissioners to come out
to the Lake. After discussion, the consensus of
the Commission was to have the Commissioners go
see the Lake on an individual basis.
Wright
Conti
Dahlquist
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan.
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
C. Golf Course at Macario
Jim Smith, Alta Mira, spoke on this matter,
using maps to indicate the different areas
available for golf courses in the Macario area.
Mr. Smith suggested the possibility of resort
hotels in the area with their participation in
the qolf course. He recommended a conmittee
from the Commission to look at possible sites
with the interested group.
Chairman Wright stated that in the survey taken,
a golf course was not a top priority, and he was
hesitant to use valuable park land as a golf
course.
(Commissioner Dahlquist left the meeting.)
Dave Bradstreet said he has been directed by the
City Manager to do a staff study on the
feasibility of a golf course. If the study goes
to a consultant for design, this Commission will
be alerted. He added that if the Commission
indicated no interest in a golf course at that
time, that would be noted in the report.
Parks & Recreation Commission supported the
concept of a study on the feasibility of a golf
course and requested a report on that study.
Items D and E were deleted from the Agenda.
F. Indoor Soccer Facility at the Monroe Street
Tennis Courts
Dave Bradstreet gave the report, stating he
thought Mr. Courtney would be here tonight.
Copies of a letter showing the proposed court
were given to the Commissioners. Mr. Bradstreet
stated Mr. Courtney would carry insurance on the
court and he saw no problem with the request.
He stated he did not know how successful the
paddle tennis had been on the one court so
designated.
The statement by Mr. Courtney that he could make
money was questioned by Commissioner Donovan and
Mr. Bradstreet answered that no one can use City
property and keep the profit made from that use.
The Commissioners felt they needed more input as
to who would control this court and wHere the
money would come from and who would keep it.
Commissioner Morrison made a notion tQ invite
Mr. Courtney back to explain the areas of doubt
on this request. There was no second.
Commissioner Popovich moved to deny the request.
The motion died for lack of a second.
The Parks and Recreation Conmission tabled this
request due to the need for more information.
Wright
Conti
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
G. Park-In-Lieu Fees
Dave Bradstreet reported on the change in park-in-
lieu fees and referred to his memorandum dated
September 5, 1985, giving the new formula. He
stated the City will no longer take unusable land
for fees, and assured the Cotnnission no one is
exempt from these fees.
COMMITTEE REPORTS;
A. Park Site and Facility Planning Committee
Art League's request to use the Granary.
Commissioner Regan gave the report, referring to a
letter from the Art League contained in the
packet. The suggestion was made to allow
use among different agencies and in six months the
major users could be determined. If no one else
used the building, the Art League could be granted
more use.
Chairman Wright reminded the Commission the
$6,000.00 had not been allocated for bring the
granary up to code.
Dave Bradstreet read from Commission minutes where
the permission to move the granary was given.
Nothing was done about allocating money to bring
the building up to code.
Commission discussion followed, with Commissioners
concerned about the amount of money spent on
projects without benefit to the citizens of
Carlsbad. Some Commissioners felt the granary
should be brought up to code, while others felt
this would set a poor precedent.
Commissioner Popovich made a motion to authorize
Parks & Recreation Director to spend $6,000.00
to bring the granary up to code and then determine
the proper use.
Motion died due to a tie vote.
This item will be placed on the next agenda to
allow for full Commission vote.
Dave Bradstreet read from the minutes again to
state that originally the Redevelopment Department
was to obtain funds for the refurbishing of the
granary. He stated the Commission should direct
staff to confer with Redevelopment to determine
how they plan to fund the refurbishing of the
granary.
The consensus of the Parks and Recreation
Commission was to concur with Mr. Bradstreet's
suggestion.
Wright
Conti
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
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September 16, 1985 COMMISSIONERS
11. DIRECTOR'S REPORT;
Dave Bradstreet referred to the "Green Sheet"
attached to the packet.
12. ADDITIONM. BUSINESS;
A. Stagecoach
Dave Bradstreet announced the groundbreaking for
Stagecoach Park, September 30, 1985, at 3:00
p.m., and stated he would like as many
Commissioners as possible to attend the
ceremony. Chairman Wright will give a short
speech on behalf of the Commission.
B. Calavera School/Park Proposal
Dave Bradstreet showed wall charts indicating an
elementary school site and park site. The City
Manager has directed Mr. Bradstreet to do a study
on this and he stated this is an informational item
at this time.
C. Alga Road Median Development
Commissioner Conti stated he would like to have the
medians on Alga Road finished, even if the City had
to advance the money and wait to be reimbursed by
the developers at a later date.
Parks & Recreation Commission recommended to City
Council that the City finish the medians on Alga
Road subject to reimbursement from the developers.
Commissioner Regan stated she opposed this, as
she felt this should go through regular channels
and it was not the responsibility of Parks &
Recreation to initiate landscaping.
Commissioner Conti gave the Scribe Report.
ADJOURWENT;
By proper motion, the meeting of September 16,
1985, was adjourned at 7:53 p.m.
arriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
Wright
Conti
Donovan
Morrison
Popovich
Regan
CIT OF CARLSBAD - AGEND. BILL
MTQ. 5/21/85
PERT.
TITI.E; AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE HISTORIC
GRANARY BUILDING FROM TWIN INNS TO
MAGEE PARK AND APPROPRIATION OF
FUNDS.
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CITY ATTY
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authorizing the move of
RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Council adopt Resolution No.
Historic Granary Building fronT Twin Inns to Magee Park and
appropriating $ 3,500 from contingency.
ITEM EXPLANATION
At their meeting on March 18, 1985, the Parks and Recreation
Commission recommended moving the historic Granary Building from
the Twin Inns to Magee Park.
The building served as the feed storage facility for the chickens
raised on the site. The owners of the Twin Inns have donated the
structure to the community. The new site selected is between
Heritage Hall and the restrooms at the west end of the park.
Parks and Recreation Department will determine the appropriate •
use for the building.
Relocation expenses would include:
Moving $2,600
Termite Fumigation $700
General Repairs $500
The Rotary Club will coordinate the move and provide foundation,
paint, reroof and general repairs. The Historical Society has
agreed to donate $500 toward the project. The' Oceanside-Carlsbad
Art League will provide funds if a suitable agreement for their
use of the facility can be worked out.
Council is asked to authorize the move of the Granary to Magee
Park and appropriate funds from contingency.
FISCAL IMPACT
A one time contingency allocation of $3,300 will need to be made,
After this transfer the Contingency Fund balance will be $49,981.
EXHIBITS
1 - Resolution No.
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RESOLUTION NO. 8029
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA APPROVING THE MOVE OF THE
HISTORIC GRANARY BUILDING FROM THE TWIN INNS TO
"MAGEE PARK AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS.
WHEREAS, the City council of the City of Carlsbad, has
considered moving the Historic Granary Building from the Twin
Inns to Magee Park; and
WHEREAS, the City Council recognizes certain relocation
expenses will be incurred with this move.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the
City of Carlsbad, as follows:
1. That the above recitations are true and' correct.
2. That moving the Historic Granary Building from the
Twin Inns to Magee Park is hereby approved.
3. The Finance Director is hereby authorized to transfer
$ 3.300 from Contingency Fund for cost in relocating
the Granary Building.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the
City Council of the City of Carlsbad, held on the 7th day of
May, 1985, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: Council Menbers Casler, Lewis, Kulchin, Chick and Pettine
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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ATTEST :
MARY H CASLER, Mayor
ALETHA L. .RAUTENKRANZ , City Clterk
(SEAL)
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COPIES:
Lynn Chase
Parks & Recr. CommissionF. AleshireR. Patchett, ACMFile
Mr. David Erecstreet, Director
Carlsbad Parks end Becreation Cepartir.ent
1200 Elm ftvenue
Carlsbad, California 92008
Ee: Carlsbad Swim Complex / Summer Lessons Program
Dear Mr . Eracstreet:
Kith cur children having just completed their third summer of
lessons at the Carlsbad Swim Complex, I feel compelled to share
with you our total satisfaction with this program. '
Needless to say, the importance of teaching our children basic
swimming skills, which they have, learned at the Carlsbad pool, is
extremely important. However, the personality of and example Bet
by your pool staff is just as important to our children.
Each and every one of the guards, instructors, directors or staff
persons at the Carlsbad Swim Complex is an exceptional
individual. All are not only courteous, but outgoing and friendly
to our family and others who attend. One cannot help but see the
"family" which hes crown around this staff, and their personality
is consistent with the best qualities of the City of Carlsbad. In
turn we have continually watched the talents of self-assuredness
and swim skills passed on to younger participants in the swim
•program.
Please accept our thanks and congradulations for this exceptional
program, and our special compliments to the staff of the Carlsbad
Swim Complex.
Very truly yours,
Debbie McCann
cc: Bon. Kary Casler, Mayor
Staff, Carlsbad Swim Complex
1200 ELM AVENUE - m .AW j M TELEPHONE
-CARLSBAD, CA 92008-1989 \sPf4wJSPJw (619' 433-5571
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PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT
October 4, 1985
Carlsbad-Oceanside Art League
c/o Dorothy Newburger
2897 Woodridge Circle
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Mrs. Newburger:
The Parks & Recreation Commission's "Park Site & Facility
Planning Committee" met prior to the regular meeting on
September 16th to review the Art League's proposal for
use of the Granary.
Following discussion the Commission took these actions:
1. The cost to renovate the Granary will be referred
to Chris Salomone, Redevelopment Manager. A review
of the minutes showed the Commission was asked to
approve relocation of the structure to Magee Park.
No action will be taken by the Parks & Recreation
Commission regarding the Art League's generous
proposal to pay one half the renovation costs.
2. Staff was directed to let the community know that
the Granary will be available for use. The
established policy and procedures for "Facility
Use Requests" will be in effect. A copy of the
procedures and an application for use is attached.
Please submit the application for 3-6 months use
when the community notice is given.
3. After the Granary has been available for use by
the Community (between 3 to 6 months), the
staff will review usage and be able to make a
recommendation to the Commission relative to the
Art League's proposal.
Carlsbad-Oceanside October 4, 1985
Art League Page Two
If I can answer questions for you, please contact me at
438-5572.
LYNN CHASE
Recreation Superintendent
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cc: David Bradstreet, Parks & Recreation Director
Parks & Recreation Commission
Incorporated In the State of California, June 25, 1975 Corporate number 738726
A Non-ProfIt Corporation
CARLSBAD SENIOR CITIZENS' ASSOCIATION
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August 16, 1985
David Bradstreet , Director
Division of Parks and Recreation
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, Ca. 92008
Dear Mr. Bradstreet:
At a Special Meeting of the Board of Directors of the
Carlsbad Senior Citizens' Association held on August 14th,
the matter of accepting Proposition 30 Funds for a planned
rehabilitation and expansion of the kitchen facilities at
the Harding Street Center was considered.
After considerable discussion it was moved that the Asso-
ciation spend no more money on the Harding Street Center,
and that the project to rehabilitate the kitchen facilities
be abandoned. The motion passed by a vote of three (3) ayes
and two ( 2 ) no ' s .
Since a cooperative agreement exists between the Carlsbad
Senior Citizens' Association and the City of Carlsbad we
are submitting this for your information.
Sincerely yours,
Howard C. Harmon
Chairman, Board of Directors
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DATE: . September 5, 1985
TO: . STAFF
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
REVISED PARK-IN-LIEU FEES AND FORMULA
To help clarify and understand the new fees, the following is
submitted for your information.
1. New Formula Based on:
a. Acreage Standard of : 2.5 Community parks
.5 Special use areas
3.0 Acres per 1000 residents
b. Person per Dwelling Units: 3.0 Single
2.5 Attached Single Family
2.0 Attached Multiple Family
1.75 Mobile Homes
c. Land Value: Dist. 1,2, & 3 $87,000 per acre,$2.00/sq. ft.
Dist. 4 $109,000 per acre,$2.50/sq. ft.
2. Calculation Example SFD for Areas 1,2, & 3:
Park acreage standard 3.0 AC/1000 residents = .003 acres x 43,560
sq. ft.= 130.7 ft. per person x SFD 3.0 = 392.1 or 392 ft. per
person x Land Value of ($87,000 7 43,560 sq. ft.) $2.00 per sq. ft.
= $784 per each SFD.
3. Revised Fees Are;
New Fees
Land Persons/ Fees Dist. Dist.
Reg. D.U. 1,2, & 3 4
a. Single Family 392 sq.ft. 3.0 $784 $980
Detached & Duplex
(0 lot line or
attached wall)
b. Attached Single 327 sq.ft. 2.5 $654 $818
Family (4 units or ;
less attached)
c. Attached Multiple 261 sq.ft. 2.0 $522 $653
Family (More than
4 units)
d. Mobile Homes 229 sq.ft 1.75 $458 $573
NOTE;
Developments larger thaii 200 acres will be required to dedicate land.
Developments less than 200 acres will provide fees (fee-in-lieu) unless
City Council requests that land be dedicated to complete a Community Park
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DATE: September 26, 1985
TO: RAY PATCHETT, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR \
SAMMIS DEVELOPMENT PARK-IN-LIEU REQUIREMENTS
I understand that the Sammis Educational Development will be
discussed at the next City Council Meeting. I suggest that a
condition be imposed, that instead of requiring the developer
to pay park-in lieu fees, that he acquire and dedicate the park
land, up front, at a location to be determined by the City in the
southwest quadrant.
Based on the Master Plan, the fees and park requirements are as
follows :
Fee $343,320
Land 3.94 acres
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c: Pk. & Rec. Commission
September 17, 1985
TO: ROGER GREER, UTILITIES & MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
LAKE CALAVERA PARK PROPOSAL
The Friends of "Lake Calavera" made a presentation to
the Parks and Recreation Commission on 9/16/85 requesting
that the City preserve as a natural area or build as a
park the 250 acrea Calavera Lake area.
After discussion the Commission unanimously moved that
the City encourage the Utility & Maintenance Department
and the Costa Real Water Department to pursue the
development of the Lake Calavera area as a future park.
DB:dc
cc: Friends of Lake Calavera
Parks and Recreation Commission
Ray Patchett, Assistant City Manager
MINUTES
Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION (Special Meeting)
Tine of Meeting: 1:00 p.m.
Date of Meeting: September 30, 1985
Place of Meeting: City Council Chanters COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Wood at
1:09 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present: Chairman Wood, Commissioners Fuller,
Erwin and O'Day.
Absent: Commissioner Melideo
Staff Members Present: Steve Tisdale, Project Manager
Kent Sears, Traffic Engineer
1. Rancho Santa Pe Road Closure
Commissioner O'Day stated that his Civil Engineering
Consultant firm had been hired by Daon Corporation to
process the road closure of Rancho Santa Fe Boad. He
said he would not take part in the discussion and voting
on this matter and had not discussed the •ecits of this
item with the. other. Coranission Members.
Chairman Wood announced the Traffic Safety Comnission Mas
to recommend to the City Council whether or not the
Commission approved the closing of Rancho Santa Fe Road
from La Costa to Olivenhain Road to expedite the widening
of that road.
Kent Sears, Traffic Engineer, stated that congestion at
some of the intersections could be tolerated for the
short period of closing the road. He mentioned the
possibility of widening the intersection at Olivenhain
and El Camino to allow a right turn lane. One issue to
be addressed would be the possibility of through trips on
Levante rather than La Costa. The Police Department is
concerned about having to enforce that. He added that
all the information is in the report.
Commissioner Erwin commented that the traffic would be
detoured through the La Costa, from non-inhabited areas
to residential areas, with Levante traffic increasing
tremendously. He felt the City was opening itself to
liability as well as inconvenience for the residents.
_£hairman Wood stated that using Alga Road as criteria for
accidents in a construction zone, there would be even
more accidents on Rancho Santa Fe Road.
Commissioner Erwin reiterated his belief that perhaps 25%
of that traffic would be diverted onto Levante and
would create problems.
In answer to query about deterring traffic on Levante,
Mr. Sears said there could be stricter enforcement of
speed limits, but no other way to restrict the use of
Levante.
Commissioner Fuller said that definitely there would be
accidents in the construction area, and inquired about
access for the people living off of Rancho Santa Fe Road.
Mr. O'Day indicated on a map how those people would have
access, showing that access would be to the south or west
for local traffic.
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September 30, 1985 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS
Conmissloner Fuller asked what the benefit would be to
the City and staff stated it would lessen the time that
all people would be inconvenienced.
City Manager Prank Aleshire stated this detour issue was
important and the Council Members are concerned. He
said it was not customary for the City to close a road to
traffic while it was being improved, and it would have to
be proved to the City and the public that closure of the
road was better than building the west half and then
routing traffic on that half while the second half was
constructed. If there are not strong reasons Cor this
type of action, it would create problems.
Chairman Mood stated the safety factor would be the
only advantage, and with the accident rate for Alga Road
during construction, he felt that could be very
important.
Mr. Aleshire said he did not know whether or not all the
factors were in the staff report, and that when this
matter goes to Council, it should be a solid case as to
why -the. closing of the road was requested instead of the ,
half-street method origially proposed. '
Commissioner Erwin asked why a decent by-pass couldn't be
built and Pat O'Day explained that roost of the grading
would be from the west side and filled on the east side
of the road, making it more hazardous to build a by-pass.
Mr. O'Day added that in five months, with the road
closure, there would be a half toad finished.
Mike Ryan, Daon Corporation, 5150 Avenida Encinas, stated
the La Costa Avenue_= Mission Estancia loop under
construction will not be paved for quite some time.
There is a time constraint on the construction of Rancho
Santa Fe Road set by the Planning Coranission and City
Council, with construction to start November 20, 1985,
and be completed twelve months thereafter. He commented
this could not be compared with the Alga Road
construction, and felt there would be ware than a 60%
increase in accidents. Mr. Ryan said they will be dbing
all of the cutting on the west side and dumping on the
east side. Also, Rancho Santa Fe Road will have to be
closed during the installation of the storm drains. He
indicated this would not be a simple construction
^process, but Daon is prepared to proceed as instructed by
Council. In answer to query, he indicated there would be
flagmen along the route, but they cannot control the
erosion problem, with the nud going across the road.
Chairman Hood stated that a considerable amount of
traffic would be using La Costa Avenue.
Commissioner Erwin stated that construction on the school
on Levante would create another problem, particularly
with one hundred percent increase in traffic due to the
detour.
Police Chief Vincent Jiimo stated that the types of
accidents would change, as people become impatient on
narrow roads and try to pass, causing headons and
sideswipes. Re said Rancho Santa Fe Road has serious
accidents on it at the present time and it is difficult
for the police to enforce the laws because of the
narrowness of the road.
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September 30, 1985 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS
Mr. Ryan stated that if Rancho Santa Fe Road is closed to
traffic for five months, a half-road could be finished up
to the median. Ihis would reduce the construction tine
from 12 months to 8 or 9 months, with a three-lane road
with curbs and gutters completed at that time.
Mr. Aleshire asked the Commission to consider placing some
controls on trucks, if traffic is diverted through La
Costa on Olivenhain and Levante. He felt the trucks
should be prohibited from going through the residential
area, since they cause many of the problems on Rancho
Santa Fe Road. Mr. Aleshire felt staff should be able to
arrive at some figure as far as predicting accidents.
Chairman Mood agreed that the garbage trucks should not be
allowed on Levante.
Mr. Aleshire suggested CalTrans be consulted for
information abour detour issues. He stated he had not
looked at all the aspects of this action and felt many
other things should be looked at, such as flagmen, law
enforcement issues, special traffic controls, «hat kind of
signage should be used, and consulting the- City. Ehgineer
and ttte Police'Chief.
In answer to query regarding access for local traffic, Mr.
O'Day reiterated that there would be access at all times
for those residents.
Mr. Aleshire added that the advantages and indirect costs
should be considered.
Mr. Ryan stated the oomunity safety was their concern and
the Commissioners concurred.
Commissioner Fuller agreed that more work needed to be
done, and that he would approve in concept only of the
closure, providing further investigation was made of the
economic inpact and an agreement reached to help the City
recover some of the costs incurred by the closure.
Mr. Ryan repeated that Daon is conditioned to start
construction November 20, 1985. The plans will be
approved this week, and if the City does not want to rush
into a decision, Mr. Ryan suggested relief to Daon on the
starting date. If the City does not give relief, Daon
just start construction November 20.
Commissioner Fuller said he would prefer to have a release
from the starting date and analyze the natter thoroughly.
Mr. Ryan said if the City would initiate a delay in the
starting time, that would be agreeable.
Mr. Aleshire added that October 4, 1985, is the date for
final approval. He did not believe the City Bigineer had
made a final decision and felt it might be premature to
ask the Commission to decide before all the facts are
known.
Chairman Wood stated the Commission did not have enough
information to make a decision at this time.
MINUTES
September 30, 1985 Page 4
COMMISSIONERS
Traffic Safety Commission delayed action en the request
for closure of Rancho Santa Fe Road during construction
until the City staff provides more information. The
Commission requested this information by its next meeting,
October 7, 1985.
By proper notion, the Special Meeting of Septenber 30,
1985, was adjourned at 2:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
/
riett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
Wood
Erwin
Fuller
September 17, 1985
TO: CHRIS SALOMONE, REDEVELOPMENT MANAGER
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
REHABILITATION OF GRANARY
On 9/16/85 the Parks and Recreation Commission requested
an update on the relocation, foundation work and the
status of bringing the building up to code for community
use. The Commission would like this information by
their October 21st meeting.
If you have any questions, please call me.
DB:dc
Attachment - P & R Commission Minutes 3/18/85
cc: Parks & Recreation Commission
R. Patchett, Assistant City Manager
Attachment A
SEPTEMBER 24, 1985
D RECREATION DIRECTOR
of Building and Planning
RELOCATION OF GRANNERY BUILDING
Subject building has been relocated to Magee Park.
Cost of the move and termite extermination were
authorized and funded by the City Council.
Exterior renovation of the building, including the
foundation, is a project of the Carlsbad Evening
Rotary Club.
Members of the club will provide all labor and
material necessary to complete the renovation.
Funds allocated:
Rotary Club - $ 2,000.00
Historical Society - 500.00
Total ? 2,500.00
Expenditures to
Date - $ (597.00)
MARTIN ORENYAK
MO:hmj
Attachment Al
RECEIVED ^,- ,
September 24, 1985
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
FROM: Community Redevelopment Manager
REHABILITATION OF GRANARY - UPDATE
The Granary Building has been relocated to Magee Park. The foundation
has been prepared by the Rotary Club at no cost due to donated labor
and materials. The additional renovation work is underway. At this
time, sufficient funds exist to do the work required to make the
building usable. The funds allocated in the original Council action
plus donations from the Rotary Club and Historical Society have more
than covered expenses.
If you need additional information please let me know.
CHRIS SALOMONS
CS:al
Attachments
c: Building and Planning Director, w/attachments
Ray Patchett, Assistant City Manager, w/attachments
Attachment A2
September 18, 1985
TO: RAY PATCHETT, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
PURCHASE OF AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON
The Parks and Recreation Commission at their 9/16/85
meeting voted unanimously to recommend that the City
take whatever action is necessary to encourage the
State of California to purchase the Agua Hedionda Lagoon
and surrounding land where appropriate.
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cc: Parks and Recreation Commission
Attachment Cl
STATE OF CALIFORNIA —THE RESOURCES AGENCY GEORGE DEUKMEJIAN, Governor
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
P.O. BOX 2390
^'RAMENTO 95811
(916) 445-2358
SEP 2 6 1985
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Shirley Dahlquist
1845 Bienvenida Circle
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Ms. Dahlquist:
Governor Deukmejian has referred your recent letter regarding
Aqua Hedionda Lagoon to me for reply.
He share your concern in wanting to preserve Aqua Hedionda
Lagoon for the people of the State of California.
Members of my planning and operations staff have examined the
Department's possible interest in acquiring the lagoon for
active recreational purposes and have determined that it
would be more appropriate for the State Department of Fish /(
and Game to manage it as a wildlife habitat.,____— " j \t
You may want to contact Mr. John Schmidt, Executive Officer
of the Wildlife Conservation Board, 1416 Ninth Street,
Sacramento, CA 95814, telephone (916) 445-8448 to discuss
the matter further.
If you have any additional comments or questions about our
Department's position regarding Aqua Hedionda Lagoon, please
contact Jim Heiner in our Planning Division at the above
address or by calling him at (916) 322-8711 in Sacramento.
Th-ink you for your interest in the 5tate Park System.
Sincerely,
Hm. T briner
Director
Attachment C2
September 25, 1985
TO: GENE DONOVAN, CITY ENGINEER
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
MEDIAN ON ALGA ROAD EXTENSION
On Monday, September 16th, the Parks and Recreation
Commission requested information on the median status
on the Alga Road extension. Specifically, they wanted
to know why it was not landscaped as per the landscape
guidelines when the road was constructed; and, secondly,
when will it be landscaped in the future.
I will need a response by November llth for the next
Commission meeting scheduled for November 18, 1985.
DB:dc
cc: R. Patchett, Assistant City Manager
R. Allen, Principal Civil Engineer
Parks & Recreation Commission
Attachment Dl
SEPTEMBER 27, 1985
TO: PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
FROM: CITY ENGINEER
MEDIAN ON ALGA ROAD WIDENING
SUMMARY: 1. The Alga Road median is not landscaped because
sufficient city funds were not available at the
time.
2. It is not known when the developer may landscape
the median but it is probably two years or more
away.
SITUATION: The widening of Alga Road was placed as Condition
No. 47 on tentative map CT 82-15. The widening was accomplished
under a separate agreement between the Daon Corporation and the
city. The city constructed the improvements at a cost of $768,598
which is to be reimbursed by Daon.
The stamped concrete and landscaping were not placed on the median
because, at that time, the city did not have sufficient funds
available and cuts were made in the project where possible. For
the same reason, a sidewalk was not placed on the north side of
the street.
Daon must repay the loan when the first tentative map north of
Alga Road (La Costa Northwest planning area) is approved by the
city. Landscaping the median could be made a condition of
approval of this tentative map. Currently only a very prelimin-
ary plan has been submitted to the Planning Department and no
application for a tentative map has been made.
It is not possible to predict when a developer may submit a
tentative map or when he may start actual construction of a
project. Since no application has been made, actual construc-
tion of any development is probably two to four years away.
GENE DONOVAN -
CITY ENGINEER
Ray Patchett, Assistant City Manager
Brad Therrien, Principal Civil Engineer
Attachment D2
DATE: ^ September 19, 1985
TO: MARTY ORENYAK, BUILDING DIRECTOR
FROM: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
WEED FIRE HAZARD ALONG ALGA ROAD
The Parks & Recreation Commission has requested assistance from the.
Building Department property inspection section to determine if
there is a fire hazard due to EXCESSIVE weed growth on private
property along Alga Norte Road between El Camino Real and Fuerte
Street.
The Commission feels the City should notify the property owners that
there is a fire hazard on their property due to weed growth that may
endanger dwelling units during extreme high fire periods.
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c:Ray Patchett
Pk. & Rec. Commission
Attachment El
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September 25, 1985 ^V*" ^ ^
•^TO: MARTY ORENYAK, BUILDING DIRECTOR *V?
FROM: Fire Chief
WEED FIRE HAZARD ALONG ALGA ROAD
This area has been inspected by the Fire Inspector, Fire Marshal, and myself
on different occasions, and we are all in agreement that the growth on the
banks do not pose a threat to the homes above.
We do not believe there is any excessive growth of weeds even though they
may seem unsightly to some; the Fire Prevention Code is designed to eliminate
hazards and is not a tool for a city beautification program.
J.f I cjuo^be of further help, please call on us.
JAMES \K." THOMPSON
Fire-CMef
RECEIVED
SEP 201385
CITY OF CARLSBAD
Building Department
Attachment E2
P.O. BOX 2117 - CARLSBAD. CA 92008
Mr Scrett I'Jriqhl.. Chairman
Park'- 'f.-. Recrsatien Ccmmi-321 on
a* Carlsbad
a r
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CA 92008
Dear :vir. Wrights
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Attachment Fl
1985
P.O. BOX 2117 - CARLSBAD, CA 92008
Dave Bradstreet, Director
P a r k •-• &: R e c r e a t ion D e p t.
Citv ot Carlsbad
I 2OO Elm
C a r 1 s D A cl, u A '•-' i 0u fcs
Dear Mr. Bradstreet:
As per our recent discussions concerning a facility tor
indoor Soccer, I would like to make the foil owing proposal.
Indoor Soccer Of Carlsbad would like to convert one ot the
tennis courts on flan roe St. (Next to Municipal Pool.) to an
Indcor Soccer facility.
The two north court-:; ars in dad shape and neea consi derabi e
improvements. Due to the poor condition of the surface very
tew peopia use them. Une has already ueen converted to
Paddle Tennis, and we would like to -use the otner one for
Indoor boccsr.
Our Soccsr Club : I.H.u.C. ;• would build t. :•: court at our
expense, it would nave pivwood wails anc --titiciai turf
for the pi ay ing surface, we would not re'-:<ve an v fencing or
alter the existing court in any way excecz removal ot the
existing tennis net. The court could De removed at the
city's request on very short notice.
We would request use of the court for at least cne year, or
until we could find a permanent location for the citizens
of Carlsbad to play Indoor Soccer.
I have attached a rough sketch and diagram of how the court
would be constructed.
Time is of the essence so the youth of the city can play
this next season. Therefore we would request any decision
at the earliest possible date.
Thank you very much for your help and attention to this
matter.
erely y
r
ra"m"es~ A. Courtnev
indoor soccer uf Carlsbad
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THL. £ T I T Z
October 10. 1985
Dave Bradstreet. Director
Parks & Recrsation Deot.
1200 Elm
Carl 3Dad, CA 92008
Dear Mr. Bradstreet:
We know that vou are well nware of our city's shortage o-t
Dalifields and active recreation -facilities.
We also realise that as ths community parks come on line,
we will cDtain B. fsw more Pali-fields.
However, each new park results in new battles with unhappy
neighbors who do not want lighted Dal 1-fields and active
recreation facilities near them,
in an effort to recti-fv this situation. and Guild some
we nave d the
recreation and lighted ball fields (for league games) in
Macaria Canvon Park.
We have preliminary costs, and a conceptual plan -for nine
dedicated nail -fields. If we use portable -fencing, we can
overlay the five Passcal1/softbal1 fields with five more
foot&a11/soccer fields. This would oe a total of fourteen
(14) playing fields on less than sixteen acrss! Even with
the approximately eight acre parking lot, the entire
project we
We would like to ore-sent this to vou and ths Parks &
Recreation Commissioners at the next regular meet ing of the
Parks & Recreation Commission on October 21. IVbD.
Thank you very much for your help and cooperation.
Sincerely yours.
lames A. Courtney
Treasurer and Pro
Attachment G
RECEIVED OCT 1
CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
POST OFFICE BOX 1605 CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92008 (619)729-5924
DOUGLAS A. YAVANIAN
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT
September 27, 1985
Dave Bradstreet
Director
Parks and Recreation Department
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Dave:
Over the past several months the Chamber has been reviewing its long-
term facility needs. One of the options currently being entertained
is the construction of a facility which not only would serve our
needs, but also deliver a source of additional income through lease-
able space.
To that end, we would then need land on which to construct such a
facility. Our location needs become somewhat focused as we need to
build on a centrally located site easily accesible to visitors in close
proximity to the freeway. One particular site which has been
discussed as a possibility is a piece currently owned by the City of
Carlsbad.
Specifically, the piece we're talking about is located adjacent to
"Cannon Lake" (Cannon Road at the railroad tracks). We would like
to explore .the feasibility with you and the Parks and Recreation
Commission of locating a complex on that site which might also be
turned into a "mini civic center" that could include a senior's
facility, Visitors Bureau, and Chamber of Commerce, within a park-
like setting.
This is a very futuristic and long-range consideration. If there is
any interest in this concept, please give me a call so that a
meeting can be set.
Sincerely,
Douglas A. Yavanian
Executive Vice President
Attachment H
DAY:dp
Parks and Recreation Commission
"The Green Sheet"
October 21, 1985
The Parks crew along with the California Conservation Corps
landscaped the new Poinsettia bridge.
Doris Cosman was sleeted as the Secretary to the City
Manager. Jane Meadows will be back as the Secretary for
Parks and Recreation.
Thanks to the Parks Division the basketball courts at La
Costa Canyon Park have been resurfaced.
The Senior Citizen Commission had their first meeting on
October 3. Norris Cochran was appointed as Chairman and
Dorrie Ritchie as Vice-Chair.
The Senior Citizen Center Site Committee, comprised of a
member from the Senior Citizen Commission and the Senior
Citizen Association, had their first meeting on October 11.
Their goal is to investigate possible locations for a new
center.
Interviews for Recreation Supervisor I were conducted by an
outside oral board on Friday, October 11. Final interviews
will be completed in a couple of weeks.
Visa/Mastercharge is now available at the Swim Complex, Harding
Community Center and the Administration office for fee
supported programs.
The main office has been remodeled. The front counter was
modified and a new storage area was added.
Upcoming Events
October 29 & 30 - Halloween Crafts & Costume Parade. 3:00-
5:00 p.m. at Kruger and Scout House.
October 30 - Coed & Men's Soccer Ail-Star Games at
Magnolia. Coed will be held at 10:00 a.m.
and Men's at 12 Noon.
October 27 - Men's Championship Soccer game 12 Noon at
Magnolia.
October 26 - Kickoff game for 4 on 4 Volleyball League.
The sign kit has arrived. Staff will begin preparing the
wooden signs for the park facilities as soon as possible.